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Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 Buy Ativan No Prescription http://www.pickupguide.com/what-to-do-when-your-chick-catches-you-with-another-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-to-do-when-your-chick-catches-you-with-another-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-to-do-when-your-chick-catches-you-with-another-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com What to do when another of your chicks catches you with another chick! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: ]Crisis Management Report! Containment breach captain!! Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:03:14 GMT ]Crisis Management Report! Containment breach captain!! 001117 {..ie. when another chick you are fucking, walks in on you and your chick!} In physics, there is something called a "matter-antimatter reaction". It happens when matter contacts with antimatter, resulting in instant enormous releases of energy, and absolute destruction and then loss of all the matter and antimatter in the original reaction. Well, the same thing can happen with chicks too! A chick-antichick reaction is when you are with one chick, and all of the sudden, another chick you are shagging makes an unexpected/unannounced entrance on you and the first chick. The subsequent result is usually very much like that antimatter reaction mentionned above,.. lots of energy is suddenly released, there is lots of destruction and then the loss of both chicks results. The solution to this of course is containment/isolation, and then maintaining that isolation/minimizing contact if a breach occurs.. which is the topic of tonight's field report, as this is exactly what happened last night with screambabe (see lay report, last week), and HBgeek, a really sexy but slightly nerdy chick I was already well into the process (ie. deep kino had already started) in a bar I was in last night. Lets look at the story, and how I handled it (the story has a happy ending BTW (well for me and HBgeek anyways, though not for screambabe), and how I was able (so far it seems) to use the incident to INCREASE my stature in the eyes of HBgeek. HBgeek loves the internet (she is a web designer or something), 27, very sweet & sexy in real life (met her on the web). My fuck up was to take her to the same place that I took screambabe before the lay last week (a bar near some fuck hotels). I thought it was safe, because I knew that screambabe's office, and work were far from this place, so there was very little possibility I would run into her (or anyone else I know) by chance there. HBgeek and I get to the bar, and I am running the "Maniac plan" as posted last week. We are sitting at the bar, and while I am in stage "S" (the questions game, already into heavy kino & handholding, however I had not yet done the KC (was only a couple minutes away from it actually; fortunately), I get a tap on my shoulder and turn around. It is screambabe.. It goes like this: Screambabe: "am I interrupting the two of you"? Maniac: "well, yes, actually I am busy right now.." (I do not lose my cool, and speak in a very slow assertive voice, like nothing special is going on) Screambabe: "I have been sitting in the back of the bar since you came in, and have seen the whole thing" Maniac: "uh huh, so?" Screambabe: "you didn't see me, did you?" Maniac: "no, not at all, in fact I wasn't even looking for you.." Screambabe: "call me tonight, will you call me tonight?" {angry} Maniac: "yes, I can call you tonight" Screambabe: "you better.." Maniac: "yes I will" Screambabe: {goes back to her seat at the back of the bar..} Maniac: {turns to HBgeek sitting next to me at the bar, continue PU} Maniac: "I dated that chick briefly, but stopped seeing her, though unfortunately, she still really likes me, as you can see" {social proof gambit here!} HBGeek: Oh, I see, that is too bad for her" Maniac: "Yes, well, things just didn't work out between us" HBGeek: "You should have told her" Maniac: "I did, but she just doesnt get it" {a total lie} HBGeek: "Oh well, oh lets get more beer (we order)" Maniac: "So where were we, oh, right, my turn for a question, what kind of house would you like to have if you could have what you want? {stage 'V' in the ManiacPlan told be HBgeek has golddigging tendencies so I am playing on this) {more questions, I have stopped all sexual talk/kino.., as now I am trying to look casual until we either finish our beer, or until Screambabe leaves the bar, initiating more kino with screambabe still around could be dangerous} 10 minutes pass.. {screambabe realizes that she didn't freak me out, that I am not leaving, and her tantrum had NO effect on me at all} Screambabe returns to my seat, and starts pinching me (which I ignore.. I say "hi"). Now screambabe is in a tough spot too, because I am by the bar, and there is lots of staff around.. it looks like she is trying to get to me, without getting attention to herself to get in trouble. Screambabe says "call me" and gives me a real evil look. Then she hits my shoulder, I ignore, say "talk to you tonight". Then she hits my shoulder really hard (doesn't hurt, but the sound of it is really loud in the bar), and she storms out.. I turn to HBgeek and say "as I said, she really likes me, even still". Now I am safe, and I say again "so where were we, your turn for a question"..question game resumes. When its my turn, I resume full kino, and go for the KC like I did with the HB orange lay report last week. I get the KC (kiss close). She then remarks that I must be an attractive guy to make a girl react like that other one did, and would I like to start a relationship (HB Geek tells me she wants to start a relationship with me, as her question in the question game). I say "me too", we finish our beers, and go outside and make out. Now I could probably have taken her to the hotel like I did screambabe the previous time, but I was worried that screambabe was hanging out by the hotels ready to cause more trouble, so I decided to just arrange the fuck this coming Monday at my place instead, which HBgeek agreed to (she wants to see my PC's, LAN and learn how to salsa). We tonguedown some more at the train station (its big, so screambabe cannot find us, we go to an obscure place), and I say goodnight to HBgeek. -- Ok, analysis time. First of all, I was lucky because screambabe was afraid to talk to HBgeek, and only talked to me. Also, she did not say anything about being my GF (which I would have told her she isn't, because I have only met her twice in my life (then anti easy girl/slut logic would have started and she wouldnt have contested that). I was also lucky she didn't start throwing or breaking things, but as I said there was alot of staff around, and it was obvious she was aware of that. It was also the reason I decided to NOT leave the bar once I knew she was there, and rather wait it out, making it look like she didn't phase me at all, and also avoiding something on the street, where she could have been much more out of control. As well, to leave would have shown I was afraid/hiding something, and supplicative.. better to stay I figure, and make screambabe leave instead, which is what finally happened.. I realize screambabe approached when she did, because we had just finished (the first) drinks, and she was afraid we would leave. Also, she was with a guy (looked like an AFC coworker actually.. harmless), and he was getting tired of this and wanted to go I think. He was embarrassed about how she was behaving I think too. Re: handling HBgeek, I thought "social proof!" and tilted everything that way. As well, I made sure to not lose my cool, and not make it look at all to HB geek that anything had happened of any importance (ie. that that other girl was not important to me, even though I was obviously important to her!). In some way, I think this massively increased her respect of me, which led to the "lets start a relationship" question only 5 minutes after screambabe walked out the door. Another thing helped alot too, which was that I was following a script "ManiacPlan". I totally lost all my concentration each time screambabe invaded us, but because I could remember where I was in ManiacPlan, and had the framework memorized, I was able to go right back to where I left off, and continue. I think this made a real positive impression on HBgeek, that I just blew off that other chick, and it look liked it didn't bother me AT ALL, that I could just continue unphased in spite of what just happened (though of course inside I was shitting that screambabe would try something violent, but I didn't show that). Finally, there was the issue of what screambabe was doing there to start with. My hunch is that since she was with another guy, that she was not really stalking me, but just liked the place I showed her, and decided to take a friend there. To fix this, I will rotate a few more bars in the selection between chicks, to reduce the chances of this happening (though I suspect that one part of the reason she went, WAS to see if I would go back with a chick). After saying goodnight to HBGeek and making the monday appt. at my place, I now had to finish containing screambabe so that she wouldn't cause anymore trouble. As with anything in nuclear reactions, the solution is extreme amounts of power and force. So I wrote her an email calling her for the bullshit she tried to pull on me, stalking me, and make her feel that this was ALL her fault (which it really was), make her feel guilty for it..etc (I was going to include the message sent in this post, but seemed I didnt save it).. The goal of the message was to prevent her from showing up at my place or something like that and disturbing me yet again.. The note was written alot in the theme of the Ms. Kinky email I sent when she tried to give me bullshit about meeting other chicks. Then, I got a reply back from screambabe today saying that she misses me now and she would like to meet me (fat chance..). This actually is the second time this happens to me (first time was when HBass came knocking on my window at 1am while I was with energizer babe once night (report in the archives), and I handled it much the same way. 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HB Vamp is a gorgeous super thin J-chick I met in a Tokyo disco several months ago (picture going in Nathan's lounge soon), before my Rio trip. Weighs 40Kg (100lbs or something?), 5"2, and really thin/sexy. Now she is 36, but looks 22 (common actually with J-chicks.no fat, no wrinkles.just hot hot, thin and ultra sexy, and at that age, know what to do in bed.). She always wears these really tight jeans (size 2)? , which showed the perfect curves of her little sassy ass.. HB vamp it turns out, likes getting bitten on the side of her neck during sex.. This lay was interesting, because she overtly wanted casual sex, and this time, thanks to NYC's help with my Ms. Tubby and Ms. Sparkles fuckups (see stories on my website), I got it right this time, and did the chick, and not only that, said to call whenever I wanted a fuck, and she didn't care who else I fucked.. Okay, lets do this story from the beginning and she what I did right & wrong.. I met HB Vamp and got her number back in February sometime, and then went out with her for drinks back in February. The goal then was to elicit values, and try to get some patterns on her, and see what the results where. I found out the first drinks session, that she didn't like her job, and wanted to quit (she was an office lady). When I tried to talk about romantic things (L-vs-A pattern, fascination, IC..etc), I was just getting nowhere, she said that she didn't want a BF now, and was wary of all the complications, and wasnt ready for a relationship. She just wanted friends she said.. This sounded pretty grim, (reminded me of Ms. Tubby's convo during supper). and then I remembered what NYC said, that maybe she doesnt want a relationship, but she wants sex (since hey, she is sitting here with me, isnt she!). So I started with lots of Mr. Smooth style kino (which was easy, because now I always choose bars that I sit NEXT to the chick, and not face to face with a table between us where no kino is possible). She didn't resist this at all.. (touching shoulder, wisde of waist in authortative manner). We did have a problem though that it was a weeknight, and getting late, and we both had to work.. so no sex tonight I am afraid. The next time I see her in another bar in Shibuya area of Tokyo, near my house (the idea is to get her back to my place after a drink or two). I find out she likes drinking, as she says she has wines sometimes at her place. This time, I brought that tiny PC I have with all the pictures and show her the same ones I showed HB Brains the time before I fucked her as well.. That worked well, and she was getting used to me. Now the funny thing I noticed with this chick, is that she didnt do any of the non verbal signs like reciprocating Kino, or anything, but she would let me touch her..this was good, and I start touching her a bit more aggressively, legs, arms, hands.this is still ok. I ask her if she is romantic, and she laughs, and says not at all.. I ask her about her old BFs and she doesnt have much experience (she says, but not sure I believe her).. I am at a loss a bit for talking, because none of the regular RJ/romantic patterns are working, and neither are the "adventure" ones. I am really having trouble hooking into things she likes to talk about, but find she likes plants and gardening, and dancing.. that is good, so I start talking about the passion of dance with that dance pattern I posted last year. THAT gets results..I can see her imagining that. But the thing is she is still not showing any signs of liking me in any particular way besides casual friend (except she lets me do kino). This is odd I figure, but then I remember Ms. Tubby, and it was this way as well. I decide to go for it, and ask her to stop by my place on the way home (excuse I used was to see my house). She didn't resist..that was cool, but it was nearing 10pm, and last train is 11:30. Not much time, but lets see what I can do I figure. We get to my place, and we do some Kino, but time is really short, so I show her around, and we have to go back soon (really lame, but cabs are expensive to her place, so out of the question) to the station.. When at the station, I hug her, and she accepts, and then say "Do you want to kiss me" a-la Mystery style.. She says "sure", PLOP..on the lips. I get one, and she goes. Now, fast forward 2 months to tonight. I keep all this in mind, and plan a strategy how to lay a chick (if I dont make a plan how to lay the chick before I meet her, I have a lot of trouble). Well, I elicited her values, and I know she likes: dance, gardening, serious work (and not easy job), friends, and simple/uncomplicated things and drinking wine. She hates complex relationships. So I kept that in mind, and made a plan and wrote up a few notes to review before meeting her. I also noticed, that except for her talk, she made NO kino/kiss resistance WHATSOEVER, EVER. I keep this in mind when I make my plan.. My notes said: -As Taro says, immediately on meeting her, hug and kiss her to set the evening tone (ie. our world routine) -Go to bar, drink, and get really kino.. -Talk about friendship (basically the plan was do to Smooth, talk how we are friends, and close, but touch, and kino her as if she was my GF) -Talk sex story stuff, get her sexually thinking (I would tell her about the fuck party I went too (see next lay report coming tomorrow)), stuff about old GF's who I fucked and how it felt, and see her reactions for each type of girl I went out with -Pour on the Kino -Get her to my place (use excuse of plant I got to show her). -Fuck her Basically, it went like clockwork, though I did trip up slightly at my house, but recovered quickly: Lets look at exactly what happened, and where things went off the plan.. I met her, but couldnt find her in the station, then she found me.. this tripped me up, because I got surprised, but I did hug her, though I didn't kiss her (bad.). Secondly, it was POURING rain tonight, and she already had her umbrella, so taking her hand to walk was not really possible, fuckup #2. I lead her to the drinking place (one I can sit next to her, and kino her), which I do. We order our drinks, and I start on my routine. Since romance stuff got nowhere last time, I totally dropped this, and first fluffed (what did you do today (she slept till noon, as she's quit her job now and not working yet), had coffee, slept more, and did some work around the house. Then I told her about "my friend who is a play girl, and tried to sleep with an investment banker guy living in this rich house in Shibuya area of Tokyo, but he got drunk, and couldnt fuck her" (this was a true story BTW..because the chick is HB Ass, who I also fuck.but I let her play around as I do, and she tells me all the stories of the guys she meets and fucks. interesting really, amazing all the AFCs out there ;-) ). Then I asked HB Vamp if she ever had a one night stand. She said `nono, and shaking her head'. I ask her what she wants, and she said, that she doesnt want a casual relationship, but she doesn't want to get fucked, and then instantly dumped either (good to know). Then she talked about this guy she knew who was playboy, and she liked him, and wanted to sleep with him even though he had like 5 other GFs or something, but she was afraid to get instantly dumped so she didnt fuck him. I talked to her about how that is kind of sad..etc. Then according to my plan, I talk about my previous GFs, (Ms. Kinky, HB Ass, Hb Brains, the chick I fucked in the train station a while back)..etc, and paid close attention to her reaction. She was surprised when I said I had never been dumped by a girl, rather I broke up with them, and how a girl will never dump you if you pay close attention to what a girl wants, and what pleases her in bed as well as outside, rather than just yourself. She laughed and smile.. I am doing lots of kino (hand on arm, leg, shoulder).constantly at this point. We talk about SM a bit, and I tell her about an evening I was at a party with coworkers and the chicks got drunk and I asked them who did a 3P (group sex), and how one chick raised her hand. Then I asked the other chicks how many wanted to, and they ALL raised their hand. and then another chick said how she got into costume, and would whip her BF. I finish the above story with HB Vamp, and she said she is not SM type, but "normal" (also good to know). I tell her that probably 30 % of chicks are into weird shit like that in Japan, but only 15% are brave enough to actually try. She laughs and smiles. She tells me that she is so small and cute looking like a child, that no one would ever talk to her like I do (cool.Maniac is getting into this chick's head now!). She is clearly enjoying this, and wants to hear more of my stories. I tell her more about the fuck party, and what that was like (I told her I went to it last year, not last Saturday though). I see its 9:20. I dont want to run out of time before the fuck this time, so I say "want to see my new plant I got (since she likes gardening). She says "ok", and we walk to my house (it stopped raining fortunately), but I fuck up, and didnt get an opportunity to take her hand, as she was blabbing stupid shit, and I couldnt (didnt?) interrupt her. I wait for her to finish, and want to get the hand so the kino mood isnt lost on the walk back to the house (I purposefully met her at a bar near my place so I could take her back with me, which she didnt resist), and say, well, we are not walking romantically, and put my hand in front of her.she takes it with her hand. good. 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She is wearing the super tight jeans, and a sweatrunner top. sexy, but shitty looking, but I dont say that. I tell her how I like her jeans, and that her kind of shape, tight jeans is better than skirt unless the skirt is really tight and short. Of course I am touching her legs as I describe where the shape is best for skirts -vs- shorts, and I get no resistance..this is good. I talk about the top too, and have her stand up, and rub her ass, as I tell her her jeans fit really well, and in a skirt, you wouldnt see that shape, so she is a better as a jeans kind of girl. She says I am really serious about dress, and I say I just want a girl to look her best. She says that I am good to pay attention such things. I tell her yes, I am good am I, and gesture another cheek kiss (I get it). Then I say "a real one.", she looks at me odd for half a second, then gives it to me.. She mentionned how that she sometimes wore tight short skirt in the office, and that guys would look at her. I asked her how it felt, and she said it felt good, and was like a compliment.. Now I drift and fuckup a bit, and she picks up this book about Japanese culture on the table and starts talking about Japanese old things and stuff (uh oh, losing the sexy kino mood). This goes for 3 minutes, and I just interrupt and say "Excuse me, I have a strange question. I want to kiss you again". Her mood is very casual looking, but she goes "OK" in a very casual way, like in the way someone would reply to "can I grab a beer out of the fridge" and INSTANTLY breaks down into passionate necking and moaning as I head for the neck with my tongue. My hands go to her tits (no resistance whatsoever), and down to her cunt, (no resistance whatsoever), and start fingering her (no resistance whatsoever). I keep going, (she loves getting bitten on the neck), and pop off the bra, top, and she is topless, and I go for her right on the floor of the living room. I pull of the pants and panties, and finger her good. I havent said a word to her since she said "OK" to the kiss..just I am doing. I stop the fingering, and take her upstairs (I just take her hand, and lead her up to the bedroom/tatami room). We get there, I finger her some more, lick/bite her neck, and stop to put the condom on, and then I start drilling her for the next hour or two. I always try lots of stuff to see what she likes/doesnt care. She likes front style, slow sex, while getting licked/bitten on the neck. She also has an AWESOME body. I love J-chicks.. She is really casual to talk though, and half way, stops to joke "just friends right". I say "of course" (remembering Ms. Kinky, who always did opposite from what she said) and continue drilling her as her face expression fades into outerspaceland as I fuck HB vamp the rest of the evening. Afterwards, I walk her back to the station to go home, and I have an interesting chat. She says that she wont tell any of our mutual friends (turns out we have some), about this, that she just wants casual sex now and again, with no hassle for relationships. She says she doesnt care if I fuck any other girl I want anytime. She says she wants to be just friends when we are out in public, and wants no relationship bullshit. Ie. she just wants to be friends on good fucking term when we feel like a good shag and are in the mood for it.. with no commitment/attachment or strings attached. I tell her that it is exactly what I am looking for too. I give her a kiss, and bid her goodnight. Things I learned from this lay. Firstly, my mood before meeting her was not nervous at all. I was prepared, made some notes, executed my plan, and recovered when I fucked up. I also realized (due to the Ms. Tubby fuckup before), that some chicks want just sex, and DONT want a relationship (in spite of what most guys might believe!). It is important to recognize this early, and adjust the plan.. Had I talked about commitment and serious stuff, HB Vamp would have RUN, not walked, away from me. I recognized this, and made it clear I wanted what she wanted,.. casual no strings attached fucking on an "on demand basis".. .. Turns out it suits her fine, suits me fine. HB vamp also said in one of our talks, that she never calls the guy, she always waits (anxiously she says), as its too scary to be rejected. That told me that I must do everything., which I did, and which she let me. And also, to ignore any resistance that she SAYS (versus does). She said she only wanted friends, and to a point she was truthful.she wanted friends who will fuck her..hard. Had I not caught on to this, I might have missed my chance.. And finally. LOTS OF CHICKS WANT CASUAL RELATIONSHIPS! They have jobs, lives, hobbies, and some just want an independent life, but their body still makes them want to fuck. These chicks exist, and will want casual relationships! Shes a keeper. Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/hb-vamp-wants-casual-sex/feed/ 0 Buy Ativan No Prescription http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 Buy Ativan No Prescription http://www.pickupguide.com/part-ii-london-special-wifeslave-takes-a-walk-on-the-wild-side/ http://www.pickupguide.com/part-ii-london-special-wifeslave-takes-a-walk-on-the-wild-side/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/part-ii-london-special-wifeslave-takes-a-walk-on-the-wild-side/ [ London Double Feature, Part II! Meeting and dealing with SM slave chicks! Maniac High Copyright 2001 All Rights Reserved www.pickupguide.com ] Layreport double feature! London special! WifeSlave takes a walk on the wild side! 010211 This is the second part of this week's layreport double feature! (other one is Hb Miles!). Tonights story is about 'wifeslave', a chick I met in London the second day I was here and ended up fucking. Wifeslave it turns out is a massochistic married chick, with lots of SM fantasies she wants to play out, early 30s around, bored house wife who is looking for some fun and excitement in her life). She is very pretty, thin, attractive and sexy and had bigger tits than you usually see on Asian chicks. She had a beautiful face as well. Needless to say, when she found me, she got what she was looking for! It was an unusual PU in several respects (particularly, the fact that I found out she is into SM before I fucked her, which is the first time that happened to me.. usually I find out during/after the first fuck, if they are like this or not). Firstly, wifeslave is a Japanese-chick who lives here (there are TONS around in London). I chose her because I am finding the longer I am here, I am not excited by brit-chicks at all. (not surprisingly, the lead story on the BBC news yesterday was regarding a new govt report on how FAT british women had become over the last 10 years)... sorry no thanks.. I want the HBs.. which wifeslave is.. petite, thin/sexy with a beautiful face. I will write another report about the London PU scene later today, with more on all of this, and how to find Caucaisan chicks who ARE cute (hint.. they are from other parts of Europe, and also are teaming all over London)! Ok, on with the story! I met Wifeslave at a party in London, there were lots of brits around (all the chicks were massive UG's, FAT and truly discusting), and a few Asians that were cute. I started on the Asians, # closed a short one (we made a meeting for the next day, but she flaked out and last minute cancelled (her friend bought her movie tickets..BS story was the excuse). I called her on it retorted with 'well my policy is to never ask out again anyone who cancels me at the last minute, because I am a busy person and my schedule is important too.. I need to know a day ahead'. Flakechick was really taken aback by this.. stunned actually and got really defensive. I went on to tell her, that 'so, if you would like to go out with me still, then you can call me when your schedule is under control again, and maybe we can hook up if I am not busy'. She was now making a ton more excuses, and it was obvious I had shaken her up (I can see all the other guys she tried this on before here... 'uh... ok, well I will call you again then and maybe we can try next week...afc..afc).. So in a way, even though we didn't meet, I kept my pride, and shook her up by confronting her bullshit directly. That was the end of that, I don't care if I ever see her again. If she does call, it will be go directly to fuck (returning fox theory). I also number closed another one (an 8.5 on the brit scale, 7 on the j-scale).. she sounded desperate, and asked me out.. I will meet her in about an hour. She was really paranoid, and didn't want to give me her phone number, but only an email.. so I only gave her my email too. Then I wrote her, and said I wanted to talk to her, how we can do that. She said to give me my number, but not a mobile phone (because then the calling # appears I guess, which is she worried about). I thought this was bullshit, so I just ignored the note she sent. 2 days later she gives me her phone number, and asks me out... funny that.. goes to show.. do not supplicate..do not supplicate!! Do not accept bullshit! [ed note, I just got back from meeting that other chick, went very well, will write a separate report on her.. I love London!!] I was at the party for about 1 hour, it was a wine/cheese sort of thing that the brits really like. Wifeslave was there, but for some reason I never got to her, she arrived late, and I was getting kind of tired from the jetlag, so fading fast.. I get my jacket and head to the elevator, and wifeslave is there with another chick, and a 2 guys I don't know. The 4 say that they are going to karaoke, do I want to come. I am not interested really, because it is a group of 4 people, and PU will be impossible. I tell them, that I am going to go to a salsa bar (which I like) and that they are welcome to come with me. Wifeslave cant decide (I don't even know her name or anything at this point), so I say, well give me your #, and we can meet some other time. She gives it to me (her cellphone). The people want to karaoke, but wifeslave still cant decide.. I give her one of those long seductive stares, and finally says salsa sounds good. So I tell her 'lets go' and bail out of there with her ASAP before any afcs and losers decide to clutch on to us. We get out of the place and are now on our own in the city downtown. I ask her what she is doing here, and she says that her husband (an important VIP of sorts actually) was sent to London, and she arrived with him a few weeks ago. They sound quite rich, and have a very expensive house in a classy part of town apparently. She's got 2 kids, both very very young. In spite of this, she is still HB (I love asian chicks!). She tells how her husband is a good provider and takes very good care of her, and that she was very lucky to have met and married him... (well, that means she is not looking to replace him, nor is she unhappy.. so much be something else she is looking for... so I probe further..) I ask her about her husband, what he does and how she is finding London. I ask her 'so where is your husband tonight?' and she retorts sarcastically 'I dunno?!'. Now this was key, because the tonality and face expression of how she said this was basically 'I haven't a clue, nor do I give a fuck, so I am free tonight totally!' It was good that I picked that up, and it set the tone for the rest of the evening. She asks if the salsa place is far, its not, so we start to head there. I need to establish kino, so I start with the French arm gag. I tell her 'well, this is Europe, so I guess the man is supposed to escort the lady', and extend my arm. She immediately takes it... another good sign.. Now something funny happens, we are walking arm in arm in the street, and then she spots a relative of her husband in a group of people, she freak, lets go the arm and gets away from me by 10 meters ASAP behind me. I kind of clue in what happened, so just I keep walking, I hear her behind me.. after, she comes back, and explains what just happened. I tell her that I understand her situation, and that we should be careful outside. She agrees. This is good actually, because it tells me that she understands the score (ie. We are doing something secret, and (b) she knows she is doing it, and accepts it). Now we get to the bar, and she scopes out the bar for people she/her husband might know. There aren't any, and then kino starts again, and is quite good. No resistance to hand holding, or anything. It is now 30 minutes or so from after I first met her. We dance a little bit, and I show her some basic latin dances, just to get kino going. No problem, she is very kino. Now the goal is to find out what the chick is into, and elicit the romantic/adventurous states. I have her against a wall in the bar someplace (its really crowded now and she is worried about being seen, so I don't try a kiss close here.. will wait till later when she's at my place). I ask her 'are you a romantic or exciting type of person'. She says both. (well that is good, she is making it easy for me!). I remark back to the dance and mention how dance is a sort of communication at many levels between two people, even if they do not communicate with words'. She wants a drink, so she goes off to buy one. I tell her I want a rum-coke, she buys them and returns, I tell her I will get her the next ones. Kino is still excellent. She is afraid to kiss though, always looking around if she will be spotted. Now here I get really lucky. It turns out that one of the waitresses in the bar is wearing an almost fetish'ish SM looking latex/leather costume (it's a normal bar, just they do this to get attention and get tips). Wifeslaves is staring at it, so I ask her if she likes it. She smiles and says 'maybe'. Now I know I am onto something.. this chick is looking for secret excitement in her life. I decide to probe this further.. I take her back to the wall, and remark that my ex-f was wild, bi, did group sex and stuff like that. I asked her if she ever did that, and she grins and says.. 'maybe'. I tell her about that story about that couple HB ass and I fucked once (see my webpage, article about the swinger world in Japan), where this one married chick had a happy home life, but had a secret boyfriend she would go to fuck parties with. She smiles a bit about the story. She is looking nervous around again, so I ask her when her curfew is as I worry about the time now, its getting late. She says anytime is OK. I figure it is time to go for the close here, so I step things up. I tell her if she could have excitement like that, and no one could find out (ie. Her husband), would she do it. She says 'Absolutely!'. But then she tells a story about this guy she used to see before, who didn't respect her situation and started calling her all the time, even when her husband was home. That situation really freaked her out and scared her,.. she said she was scared to take the chance again after that.. that the guy would get too clingy and cause trouble in her 'real life'. I tell her that I am not stupid and understand what her boundries are, just like I have boundries, and that we are both intelligent enough to know where the lines are, and when/when not to cross them so that there is no trouble for either of us. She looks more reassured, so I decide to make the move, and get her to my place.. its loud though now so getting hard to talk. I take her hand, and we leave the bar. We are out into the street now. I am direct in my proposition, I suggest we go to my place, and I offer her excitement and a night she wont forget, and that I will respect her boundries and not call her, she can call me when it is safe, and that I am not stupid, and hope she isn't either. She says OK, but she is hungry and wants a snack first. I say fine, we go to a McD's that is still open this late in downtown. While we are there, I continue to keep the state, by playing 'Strawberry fields (see website)' and '4 questions'. Strawberry reply: -see no fence, lots of strawberry, I'm sorry. Four questions reply: cool, blue-relaxed, panda- cuddly,sit on beach She says that she wants guy's attention not because she is bored, and not because she doubts her value as a woman, but she wants to make sure she can get an attention from guy (in other words, she really DOES doubt her value as a woman). She asks how far my place is, I say its 10 minutes, and we go. We cant find a cab however (all are full in booming London on a Friday night), so we end up walking.. I am only in London for 2 days so far, so I get terribly lost. It takes us like 30 or 40 minutes to get to my place. She is cold, and its late now, but still game on. The way there she is behind me alone, doesn't want to get spotted, and we don't say a word to each other the ENTIRE way there from when she agreed to come after the McDs. I figure let her anticipate what will happen and not ruin it. I am also very jetlagged now and not thinking well of things to say, so don't want to fuck it up. We get there, I give her an orange juice, and then I want to see where we are after the long silent walk to my place, so I ask her my impression of me from when she met me to now. She says I am 'normal' (not sure if this is good or not) .I tell her my impression of her (looked very straight at first, but she was intelligent, and seemed like the excitement type when we were at club, so I wanted to know more about her. She asks me why, and I tell her because the way she reacted to that costume in the bar, somehow I think that interests her. She asks me why I think she likes it. I take a guess here and tell her because it is kind of fetish/kinky SM type, so maybe it makes you curious. Wifeslave then asks.. so do you like SM type [here just by raising the topic, and probing like this, she is telling me that this interests her somehow... so I move forward]. I reply, 'yes', it can be exciting with the right person. It is somehow a very deep relationship, but in a different sort of way. She says that she agrees. I ask her which type she is, and which did she try. Wifeslave replies 'which do you think?'. [this is of course easy, because she has let me lead all night, taken not really any initiative, and not given me any resistance so far to anything.. so I figure she is Maso type. Usually Maso types want to through themselves into unknown situations and let whatever happens to them happen.. which, basically, is what she has been doing all night]. I tell her she is a bit Maso I think. She smiles, and says, 'I am extremely Maso..'. I ask her how.. She says 'I love to take pain, to endure it, I will take as much pain as is possible'. [Interesting.. Maniac thinks to himself..]. I tell her I have had several slave girls in the past. She asks me what I have done to chicks. I tell her the Ms Kinky story (window strip), the HB ass gangrape story,..etc. She though doesn't seem excited by any of this, and asks me how I found out that MS Kinky was SM type. I told her (see the story on my webpage) that when I held her hands tight, she reacted really erotically, so I could tell. She started to ask me detailed questions on how I tied her, and what I did to her after that (did I whip her.. how.. how much?..etc), which I replied. It turns out she likes to be tied, beaten, and then get fucked at the end. She doesn't want to be embarrassed publicly, or have sex outside or anything like that. Being the center of attention at an SM party (ie. Getting tied up in front of everyone and getting the shit beat out of her was nice though.. although she never tried, but she'd like to). I told her finally, that I knew what she wanted, and that I knew what I was doing, and that she would have to trust me, because I think I know what she needs. This thread is interesting still, so I don't go for a KC or anything yet, just I want to find out more at this point about her. I ask her what her experiences were. She says she started around 3 years ago, first by meeting a couple she met in a fetish shop in another city she used to live in. They made her their fuck slave, and beat her and used her. After that, there was another guy a few years later, but she didn't really understand the 'scene' aspect of it, and rather than using safewords, would ask her every 30 seconds 'is it ok.. is it ok', which ruined the mood for her. I told her that I use safewords, and that the aspect of the scene was important, so I would never ask her 'is it ok'. She seemed to like that, and somehow it showed I knew what I was doing.. I go on to say that sex is just a way of power exchange, the guy 'takes' the girl. SM is a deeper, more intense form of this. She agrees. I ask her about her husband, and does he SM play with her like she described she wanted above.. she says 'no'.. he is totally straight, and wont give her that.. She is looking more an more nervous at the clock now (it is around 2am), so I decide to move things now faster, and tell her that I think we both know what each other are looking for, and we could try it, and see if we fit each other. She agrees. I tell her (in an authoritative, permission voice), so would you like to kiss me. Chick, 'yes', we tonguedown for a while, with kino and feeling up.. going good. But she is still nervous about the time, and says she has never gone home this late before, and is worried about her husband, as its now 2:30 am or so. I figure 50% of it is true, the other 50% is bullshit, but don't decide to press it, because I want her to know that I wont intrude into her 'real life with the family', and not cause her trouble like that other guy did, so I say "I understand your situation, we will meet another time when it is more safe for you'". She felt relieved about that. I tell her though that I don't like to be played by girls, and that she can decide whether to meet me or not, but if she meets me, that I expect SM and sex to happen (ie. The SOI - statement of intent). I asked her when were good times to call/not call and meet. She said any time her husband is away on work trips, or in the daytime anyday when he is working, I can call, and she can meet me. I tell her I understand, take her to a taxi outside, and she goes home. -- Now I wait till Monday in the day before calling her (as she said that was the 'safe time'). I call her, but she is with a friend she says, and cant talk now. She sounded nervous somehow a little. So I decide to wait till the next day before calling again. This time she says everything is fine, and she sounds much more relaxed. I tell her I want to see her, and that I have time on Thursday afternoon/lunch because the boss will be away, so I can slip out of the office for a while. She agrees, and we make a time to meet near my place. I tell her though, that I don't want to go straight to my place, but want to go out for a tea first, and talk about a few things [the idea here is that I want her to get comfortable with me before she gets to my place (see karatebabe and nursebabe reports), and not freak out]. Thursday comes, and she is there on time as expected. We go to a sandwich shop, and eat sandwiches and tea. We smalltalk about hobbies (tennis for her, how she likes it, what she did before (was a student))..etc. The shop is very crowded, so I don't want to talk about SM stuff here. We finish, and I tell her that we will go to my place, and we will talk there a bit first about what we talked about last Friday. On the way, I ask her about the last guy she saw in the other city, and to describe a bit about what he did [idea here is to set the context so it is not a dramatic shift when she gets to my place]. She does that. When we get to my place, I put her on the couch, and I sit in a separate chair right in front of her [kind of teacher/child style.. I am the master, not just a regular guy who wants to fuck her, so if I sit on the couch next to her, it just makes me a guy who wants to fuck her, if she is on the couch, sunk in the cushions, and I am stern sitting in the chair, it increases my authority, which is the role I am trying to play with this chick]. Now I am very direct.. I tell her that my rules are as follows. I use the tone of a teacher talking to a 3rd grader who has just gotten in trouble for putting chalk in a girls' hair. "When I see you, you will follow me, and do what I tell you. I will not ask you if its ok. You will have a safe word, called 'safeword', and if you say it, I will stop, and you can then tell me something you want (ie. Release me, hit me less hard..etc). She replies that she almost never uses a safeword, and wants to take as much pain as I can give her. If she were to use a safeword, it is because it is too much and needs to stop. She doesn't want to direct it, she just wants to receive it, whatever I give her). I ask her if she understands what I just said, and if she agrees to it. She says yes. I tell her to get ready in the bathroom and get cleaned up, and when she is done, to wait for me outside the door. She does that, and while in the bathroom, I get a mask out, and some stuff I bought the night before in SOHO (whip, crop, handcuffs, mask). I didn't get so much stuff, as it is expensive, and I had no idea if she'd really even show up or not. After I finish preparing the room, I open the door, and she is waiting, as ordered. I put the mask on her face over her eyes, and now my tone changes to the sound of a guy who just bought this chick to use as he pleases. I lead her into the room, hold her hands over her head, and remark how she looks so fine, and it will be a pleasure to use and enjoy her today. I pull her top and bra off her, and comment on her big tits and how they are so nice, and pinch one of the nipples hard, she cries out when I do, but takes it. I undo her pants, and pull off her tightjeans/panties, and now she is totally naked right in front of me. I touch her pussy, and legs and remark how long it has been since she really was used like this. I turn her around and give her a good asswhipping, and then hit her with the came. She shrieks to the floor when the cane strikes her ass [maybe it was too hard, so I hit her a little less hard with it the next times]. I take the cuffs, and tie her hands together with them, and hand her hands to a hook that was already on the door for coats or something, and whip her some more, on her ass, her pussy and tits. Then I undo her from the door, put her on the bed, and tie her hands to the end of the bed, and make her spread her legs and whip her more.. she seems to really like this, and shrieks in pain/pleasure at the same time. I make her count once for each time I hit her, up to fifty, and when she forgets to count, I make her start over, which she did a few times. After she reached 50, I put on the condom, and fucked her silly on the bed, still tied. After that, I let her rest, and took off the mask, debriefed her a bit before continuing. She said it was great, and exactly what she was looking for. I massage her a bit lightly, put on the mask, and do all of the above some more... Then something odd happens. She asks to get on top of me. So I say ok, and lie down, and she sits on me facing me and starts to fuck me from the top. Then she is reaching my hands up, but anbigulously. I tell her, just say what you really want me to do Wifeslave. She says that she wants me to put my hands on her neck and choke her.. that she cannot come unless she is choked. [Now I have a problem with this, because I know how dangerous this kind of thing can be with 'gasper' chicks like this.. and it was the first time I ever met a gasper chick]. So I decide to not really choke her, but just put my hands around her neck, and apply pressure from the sides, so it feels a bit of pressure, but doesn't really constrict anything.. I will have to be careful with this, I am not entirely comfortable with this aspect of things.. She came almost right away after I did that, and shook and shrieked. I throw her on the bed, and come again in her, with her head hanging over the edge of the bed upsidedown and her legs up in the air. I take off the mask, and we debrief. I ask her if her husband chokes her too, she says yes, she asks him to do it. I ask her if she enjoyed it, and she says yes, very much. She says she wants to see me again. I go on to tell her that I didn't get so much equipment this time, because I didn't know if she would come. But now I know that she will, I can get more. She says she likes the leather neck brace, because it holds her head very tightly, and makes her keep a strict posture which she likes. I remark about the fetish and SM party clubs that apparently exist in parks of London, and she is interested to go, if/when her husband is away. I ask her if she feels it is safe to go shopping with me in SOHO one day, but she is not sure she will meet people she knows. I remark that they would like be as embarrassed and not want to say anything as her... We will see about it. We talked more after that about sex, and how it is for guys & girls. The insight from that discussion is that chicks like the feeling of being taken, being helpless, and getting 'knifed into their minds', which is what sex is for a chick. Just physical sex, without that emotional aspect of it, is not fun at all, she says... What I learned here was two major things. First, I got really lucky that the chick in the bar had that costume. Next time, I must probe a chick for sm tendencies without a 'chance happening' occurring like this. In that way, I fucked up, because I knew this chick wanted SOMETHING from me at the start, but I didn't know what. Had I not gotten lucky this way, with the chick in the costume being there, the SM topic wouldn't have come up, and then Wifeslave would have blown me out, thinking I was some straight guy like her husband who couldn't give her what she wanted (a master slave relationship). I fucked up here, and recovered only because I was damn lucky about that waitress being there which brought us on the topic. Point two was that this was the FIRST time I ever talked about SM stuff with a chick BEFORE fucking her at least once. It taught me that I should probe for this, and it might be a way into chicks that already got BFs they love, or are married and generally happy?etc. In retrospect, looking at that Ms. Sparkles chick from last year, this may have been what she wanted. When I didn't demonstrate that, she freaked out at my advance, and bugged out. So two important lessons here! Oh and one more thing, this is the second chick in London I PU with a lay over the 10 days I am here cumulatively (I was here for 2 days a couple months ago, and PU'd and fucked psychicbabe). So it shows that the ManiacPlan works in London as well as Tokyo, and is very very effective. In fact, because there is no language barrier, I find it even easier than Tokyo.. I will write up more in a separate report on this topic. Constructive comments / opinions welcome, as usual! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac High Copyright 2001 All Rights Reserved]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/part-ii-london-special-wifeslave-takes-a-walk-on-the-wild-side/feed/ 0 Buy Ativan No Prescription http://www.pickupguide.com/read-this-next-why-how-to-be-the-man-women-love-the-jerk/ http://www.pickupguide.com/read-this-next-why-how-to-be-the-man-women-love-the-jerk/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/read-this-next-why-how-to-be-the-man-women-love-the-jerk/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~maniac [Tom and 'Regular' talk about why chicks like "jerks" and why it helps to act more like a "jerk" if you want to be more successful with women. Sound astonishing? Well, it is.. so read on.. and you'll see why its true. Then the rest of this site to learn more about being the kind of guy that women love (in spite of what they might tell you)!] From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:56 1999 Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: How women fuck over other women Organization: @Home Network Canada Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.romance:292992 alt.seduction.fast:62779 great post. I think there's one reason behind all that : Ultimately all women like to be controlled or 'taken' by someone I should say. So they resist a little, but they like the feeling of being pushed and when you're nice you don't do that. "Jerks" are pushy by nature, so I guess that's why it works. [stuff deleted] Tom Anonymous <nobody@neuropa.net> wrote in message news:199910110724.HAA12150@berlin.neuropa.net... > Somehow, most women seem to go after all the wrong > guys for all the wrongs reasons. > > To completely end the mystery that perhaps many of > you men in the group may have been wondering about > for a while, most women absolutely DO go after jerks. > > But to say "jerk" is not a truly accurate description > of the type of men these women go after. You might just > say that they go after men who are incredibly self-confident > with women. But that would not be completely accurate either. > You could say that they go after the man who is not afraid > of their pussy (please forgive the blunt language), but that > too, would not be totally accurate. > > Well the truth is this. Women, more times than not, don't > even know THEMSELVES what it is they are after. 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But that's life, and the > legacy of the poor "nice-guy." > > In passing, it should be noted for the record, that not ALL > women go after the so-called "jerk" types. Do you want to know > which women do? Only the women you want. So in that light, you > may as well say "all" of them, right? > > So how does what I have said relate to the subject of this > post. > > When women continue to fuck-over the guys they really should > perhaps AT LEAST consider giving more of a chance to, these guys > eventually, and usually quite quickly, begin to realize what > kind of men the women they would like to have are going after. > The result is that one day something just snaps inside of them, > and they begin to emulate and become like the "jerks" that "most" > women seem to love so much. In order to become that kind of man > effectively, it usually has to be taken all the way to the end, > for the "jerk" mindset would not be truly established if it were > not. 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Because that is the jerk's, and the women > who go after jerks, legacy. > > So when women inadvertently, or purposely, create so-called > "jerks" out of so-called "nice guys", they are just inadvertently > fucking over other women, their own kind. > > > For the curious: > My experience comes from dealing with women professionally as > a "nice guy", and as a "jerk" for over 15 years. > > > The Long Time Regular > > >]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/read-this-next-why-how-to-be-the-man-women-love-the-jerk/feed/ 0 Buy Ativan No Prescription http://www.pickupguide.com/taking-control-when-things-go-wrong/ http://www.pickupguide.com/taking-control-when-things-go-wrong/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/taking-control-when-things-go-wrong/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction website: http://www.pickupguide.com [Mystery talks about taking control in a PU when the chick isn't reacting the way you want!] From mystery28man@webtv.net Sat Jan 8 10:24:05 2000 From: mystery28man@webtv.net (Mystery) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: trouble with hb Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 01:28:35 -0500 (EST) dont listen to mike. dont eject. it IS time to lay it on the line though. 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I just wanted to confirm that YES the line is distinct between GETTING and HAVING. You will find that once you have kiss closed you can behave entirely different from then on and its not unusual (although you may be thinking it is) Mystery Embrace the Unknown!]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/taking-control-when-things-go-wrong/feed/ 0 Buy Ativan No Prescription http://www.pickupguide.com/comments-on-the-above-story-3/ http://www.pickupguide.com/comments-on-the-above-story-3/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/comments-on-the-above-story-3/ 
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From: "Julian Morrison" <julian.morrison@virgin.net>Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: ]Debriefing HBGeek. Maniac learns about self-hating chicks.

Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:54:42 +0000






maniac_high@yahoo.com wrote:> Am I right. Am I wrong. Honest opinions please, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. Constructive> comments/opinions welcome!


Hey Maniac, I'm a total newbie at this, but what immediately occurred tome - once you'd spotted that, you shoulda just let yourself become angrywith her in the debrief, call her a tease, "why if I were over there I'dtan your hide for that" etc etc... basically morph into caveman mode.




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From: jockey6969@my-deja.comNewsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: Some questions, some answers: Eye Contact, Approaches, Neg Hits, PhonesDate: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 15:27:54 GMT




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Ah, but no more.  Now we have seen the way of the Enlightened one, theone they call PUA, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.  Now we know that that to elicit an emotionalresponse is good - even if it's a bad emotion.  After all, drug addictstake both uppers and downers, so why shouldn't emotion addicts (women)do the same.


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It reminds me of a lay I got one time from a chick who live in anapartment upstairs from me.  We somehow got into philosophies, and Iwent into some rant about ends justifying means, and how I didn't carehow I got what I wanted out of life, so long as I got it.  Shedisagreed with this and got pissed off, even said "people like youshould live in shit", Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.  So anyway, a few hours later, we're making out,LOL, we get naked, get in bed, and she STOPS MY ADVANCES.  Start withthe "let's just cuddle" pricktease bullshit.  Probably hadn't doneenough groundwork, a la Maniac.  Buy no prescription Female Viagra online, So anyway, I get pissed, grab myclothes and storm out, (another negative emotion), with her calling myname as I'm walking out.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, I don't turn back.  I go downstairs.  Ireally was pissed, so I must have forgot to lock the door to myapartment.  So about 5 minutes later, she walks in, without knocking,with a very sheepish look and apologetic attitude.  I was in likeflynn.  Soon after, I fuck closed her, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.  She did this really cool thingtoo, where she spun around on my dick in midfuck while straddling me,but that's a different discussion, LOL....


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From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: ]Debriefing HBGeek. Maniac learns about self-hating chicks.

Date: Fri, order Female Viagra online c.o.d, 15 Dec 2000 22:18:39 GMT


On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:39:21 GMT, maniac_high@yahoo.com wrote:>The key to the debrief I learned, in conjunction with>something she said the last date.  She said that she didn't Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, >'love myself'. Now, why is this important?




I'm surprised you'd never looked into this before.

She's at the stage that she has some insight, and perhaps a wish tochange. Her candor was not necessarily a sign of trust, but one ofpoor boundaries.

>>Well, fast forward to the debrief tonight, and I started>to ask her about her last boyfriend (a playboy type of>guy is sounds like), and me. He didn't treat her well,>but she was interested in him, so she fucked him and>became his GF (one of them I guess), Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. This happened on>date 2 with him.>>Then I asked her what was different about me. She said>the problem was that nothing was wrong with me, in fact,>that I was absolutely perfect, Female Viagra for sale, so that she didn't deserve>such a good guy as me. (my hunch is that she was being>honest about saying this, by her tonality). Well, that is>good, I conveyed that I was a good guy and desireable.






Hmmm...yet your behavior towards women has been similar to her oldBF's, no.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, I'd be interested to know what she means by "good guy". Now,to your credit, Maniac, you've always been forthright with women, if Iam to believe what you post here, which I do, for the most part.

You should draw her out about what she means by "good guy".

It sounds like what she really needs is someone to talk to.

>>Where I fucked up, was that I didn't realize that this>chick hates herself, and thus (like HB blitz) wants to>punish her self for this by throwing her self to shit>guys, and denying herself the 'good' ones when they come.




Then again, where can i order Female Viagra without prescription, if one assumes that she actually is seeking a monogamousLTR, she is expressing her self-destructive tendencies by being with aguy whose goals are different than hers, so in this way, she is alsopunishing herself.

>>As a result of this, I have added into the Maniac plan,>a new part in 'D' (deeper), to see if the girl loves>her self, or what her self opinion is, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. If she hates her>self, then a less caring, more aggressive approach is>needed (the "treat like shit caveman fuck approach")>to fuck such a sort of chick like this because the key>now is that she wants to use you as a form of self>punishment, so you have to be that type of guy for her.>From that step on, the plan get changed/shortened to>pay attention to her less, and treat her like the>piece of she wants to be and thinks she is.


I cringe as I read this.

Throw back the little ones.

>>In short, that was why she fucked the playboy the last>time around (she even said so when I presented the>facts this way). Then he dumped her, and she was really>looking for a new guy to 'punish' her more and abuse>her more.




Yes, exactly.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, I was too 'perfect' and ideal, so looked>to her like I couldn't do the job.. 




Right.


which is why I>failed with this chick.  Buy Female Viagra from mexico, Initially though, I got past>the first date because of the Screambabe invasion.>That made me look like a playboy, and was in>fact, exactly what she was looking for. Just I didnt>sustain that image after that, which is why I lost>out with this particular chick.




She may be looking for something different than the typical LTR.

Its possible that she's very literally seeking punishment from you, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.

>>Excellent.. I will recognize this and act appropriately>the next time if it ever happens again. BTW, I also>notice that this "self hate" trait is far more common>in beautiful chicks (HB Blitz, HB Geek), than 'normal'>ones. Important with these beauties especially, to be>on the lookout for it.>>Am I right.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, Am I wrong. Honest opinions please.>Constructive comments/opinions welcome!>


See above, and feel free to e-mail me if you are so inclined.

It may be possible for the two of you to develop something veryinteresting, but she must be able to TRUST you to manage the situationcorrectly. In any case, I don't think she's out of reach if you havecompatible goals, australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal. As far as the beauty thing goes, I think nicelooking people are shaped differently by the responses andexpectations of others. She has probably come to believe that her onlyvalue in anyone's eyes, perhaps even her own, is physical, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.




Kate


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From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: ]Debriefing HBGeek. Maniac learns about self-hating chicks.


Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:24:54 GMT


On 13 Dec 2000 18:59:45 GMT, telembe@aol.com (TELEMBE) wrote:>I'm really sorry that I read this post. This is one of the most callous things>I have ever read on this newsgroup.  > Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, >Are you aware that your behavior can push a chick like this close to, or over,>the edge. Since you know through manipulation how to "give" a person what they>want, you are going to be conveying some really desirable qualities even if you>also treat her like shit. (Which, by the way, shouldn't be any sort of a feat>for you, because it's what you do naturally.) >Women like htis don't actually want to be treated like shit, they just feel>it is all they deserve. 




True, although ultimately, she must learn to navigate these waters onher own, Order Female Viagra from mexican pharmacy, as must every woman. I'm not condoning taking advantage ofthe situation, but I don't think its anyone else's responsibility tohelp her re-build her dignity. Its her issue, and it sounds like she'smade some inroads into changing her actions, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.

>>You are really fucking this person up by continuing to mount onto her horrible>self-concept that she is a piece of shit.


Like I said, she needs to gain control of her own situation by knowingher goals and sticking to them. It sounds as if she's confused.

>>This leads to all sorts of MESSED UP crap like eating disorders, self>mutilation, drug abuse, depression, and even suicide. And even if you don't>care about HER, consider the chance that somehow she may try to pull you into>her self drama.  Ever heard of borderline personality disorder? Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, Actually, some of these may have existed within her sphere for yearsbefore she met Maniac. The bottom line is, people overcome adversityof all kinds, all the time. She will be much stronger for learning todeal with these types of situations.


Kate




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From: Alan Palmer <alan@sci-log.apana.org.au>Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: ]Debriefing HBGeek. Maniac learns about self-hating chicks.

Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:08:11 +1100


maniac_high@yahoo.com wrote:> .., Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.

> Excellent., buy Female Viagra online no prescription. I will recognize this and act appropriately> the next time if it ever happens again. BTW, I also> notice that this "self hate" trait is far more common> in beautiful chicks (HB Blitz, HB Geek), than 'normal'> ones. Important with these beauties especially, to be> on the lookout for it.> > Am I right.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, Am I wrong. Honest opinions please.> Constructive comments/opinions welcome!> 


To screen for chicks with self-esteem problems, listen to what she says.


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Does she make joking throwaway comments that put herself down. "I'm notworth it", Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. "I don't deserve it".


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Does she generalise from one or two bad experiences and turn them into"never" and "always". "Waiters always ignore me in restaurants."


Does she tell you about "all" the guys who treat her badly.


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And AFCs, guess what - this applies to you and me.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, Listen to yourselveswhen next meet a chick.


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What joking throwaway comments do you make against yourself. And howmany, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. Just one or two, online buying Female Viagra, for the sake of humility. Or several, one afterthe other, for the sake of "honesty".


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From: maniac_high@yahoo.comNewsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: ]Debriefing HBGeek. Maniac learns about self-hating chicks, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.

Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 04:39:01 GMT


Everyone, whoisthis, rio, RJ, svengali, zipjack etc.. thank you for yourexcellent comments about my HBgeek debrief report.  Buy Female Viagra in canada, This is why I post real life field reports to ASF, so thatI can get clear direct and varying opinions from all ofyou about what I did right, wrong..etc.


Lets look at all of the major points made, and see whatI I did right and what else I could have done different basedon what you all said. .




Ok, first let us look at the basic premise of what is wrongwith the chick. After the chat with her, and then the discussionsafter here on ASF, my hunch is that my initial premise of thischick is right  (that she wants a playboy or other sort of 'jerk'to play/abuse her, as a form of self punishment).

Zipjack, (a very bright lady, who actually posts alot of usefulthings on the NG, seems to concur, here is a little of what shewrote)


zipjack:>BF's, no. I'd be interested to know what she means by "good guy". Now,>to your credit, Maniac, you've always been forthright with women, if I>am to believe what you post here, which I do, for the most part.>You should draw her out about what she means by "good guy".>It sounds like what she really needs is someone to talk to.>...>She may be looking for something different than the typical LTR.>Its possible that she's very literally seeking punishment fromyou, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.


Ok, so now what do we do about it, rx free Female Viagra.

Well, first thing, is what are my goals with a chick. They are to:1)Lay her2)Make this the best experience she ever had with a guy3)Make her dying to see me whenever I want her to4)Make her see this later as being a very positive experience5)Not do too much work to achieve the above on any given chick (ie. know when to cut my losses)




So now, that in mind, what could I have done better.  Here are some goodopinions from the stack:


Ross Jeffries writes:>   Or maybe you might consider there are more important things in theworld>than using someone's own self-hatred against them just so you can getyour dick Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, >wet. Maybe your own self-respect would require you to leave a personlike that>alone for those who enjoy being shitty to her.>..




RJ, is basically right about this. . However, the catch is that, she isgoing to fuck SOMEBODY. Better that she meet me I figure (who is basically agood guy, but can behave like a jerk when he needs to to PU a chick), thanto skip me and get a REAL asshole who thinks she is shit, and will really treather like shit down to the core. At least if she gets over the first 'jerk'fuck with me, I can treat her reasonable (but still keeping in mind how shewants to be treated), and fulfill  2..4 above, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. I think that is betterreally.  Where can i buy Female Viagra online, .


RJ continues:>  Plenty of fish in the sea without dealing with sickos like this. They are>NEVER worth the trouble they bring......EVER.




Very true, but..  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, the problem is that most stunningly gorgeous HBs yourun into are like this. . So best to have an action plan in dealing withthem I figure since it just happens so often. .




Ok, now lets move on to svengali's (it is the real sven BTW) excellentfollowup>> Where I fucked up, was that I didn't realize that this>> chick hates herself,>>errrh.  Wrong!>Where you fucked up was in not knowing her sexual kino factor, and you>didn't turn her on with something, anything, that had her wanting to be>with you both sexually and physically.


My hunch here is that we are both right, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. I didn't turn her on isabsolutely right. And the reason I didn't turn her on, is that I wasn't the 'jerk'she wanted me to be (except for the first date, but we ran out of time thatday, after the screambabe invasion). I didn't get angry at her, and make herfeel like shit, which is what she needs to get turned on. , where can i buy cheapest Female Viagra online.

 Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, >Look, women say this shit to themselves over, and over, and over again>to justify what they really want --excitement.  Where do they get>excitement.  From guys that don't do what all the other guys do.


Sven is also TOTALLY right about this. It related to the above. THefirst time she was at my place, I needed to get angry at her, like thatJupiter guy and Rio said, turn on the TV and make her show she is a real womanif she is to get any of my attention. Just making normal 'moves' isntenough (because I was., Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. plenty), she needed some 'sparks' to get things going.


Now, lets look at something else that happened this week for a moment,because this relates to this in an important way.


I had a chat with karatebabe last week, because shewas really being icy to me, and almost the same shit as that HBGeek.

I sent her a sayonara note the next day for her misbehavior (I hadreally planned to break up with her because I was tired of her shit).  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, Then she wrote back (since I have been seeing her for over 6 months,I get the truth from her).. 'why you dont get angry at me. That is howcouple can really communicate, Purchase Female Viagra online no prescription, I want to see your anger. But I was coldall day and night (though she did let me fuck her), and you WOULDNT getangry with me. Why. it is not normal!' [end karatebabe chat]


This here is key, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. She gets excited when I get angry, and call thebullshit with her DIRECTLY. I was AFC'ing it out, and tolerated hershit, and just tried to do more 'romantic' talk and shit like that.. but shewanted a fight. THAT is what turns her on.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, And she said so.. directly.


Ok, now back to HBGeek. .

svengali continues:>You're dead wrong!>Honestly!>And if you keep basing your actions on just one, few or some women, you>are headed for diaster, after diaster, after diaster.


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Ok, to JMR's post:>There is actually a big part of this covered in Ross' BHSC.  It's called the>"Jerk Destroyer", and it's a very effective way to get a woman out of the>mindset of dating jerks, and focusing all of her energy, love, and lust on you.>>Basically, what I'm saying is, don't cotton to the idea of being a jerk just to>get laid.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, Rather, kill two birds with one stone...  you get to help her to>love herself again enough to allow herself to have a great guy, and you get to>be that great guy.  And, best of all, you don't have to be someone that you're


JMR has a good idea here, butI worry that this (and chicks like her) are so fucked up, Buy cheap Female Viagra no rx, that there isno way that this would have worked until AFTER you have already fuckedher, and she starts to listen to you (over and over and over as the relationshipcontinues). Opinions from anyone else. I think the jerk destroyer canwork on 'normal' chicks who are thinking (in a chick way) logically, but thislady was too far gone, I think trying this would have probably brokenrapport because it is so far from her model of herself, and the world. , Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.




Ok, lets move on to Greg (a dude I really respect!)>I didnt care much for these rules because they seemed to come from a>place of neediness.  I'm sure you can remeber times where you didnt need>these rules.  Times when you'd be fucking some other chick while HB Geek>would be at your door begging to be let in.  Remeber that shit.  In the Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, >old days you wouldn't have to punish, instruct, mindfuck, correct or>anything... just don't answer the door.


Good point. Actually, those days are still around, and that is ALWAYSan option. But it is boring, and I learn nothing from just tossing herout after the first time over, and calling over chick #3.. who I alreadyknow how to fuck., Female Viagra from canadian pharmacy. been there,done that., Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. That just lets me fuck chicks (which I already know how todo),but it does not let me improve my PU skills regarding new types ofchicks (like HBGeek) who I do not know how to fuck yet.


See, I think a chick is like a puzzle. I want to open it, andfind the surprise inside. If I want a fuck, I will just get a chickI already know how to fuck..  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, if I want to learn something new though,I have to do it this way.. it is not neediness.. just tangling with anew kind of puzzle that I am not yet quite sure how to open becauseit is simply interesting to do so, and I want to see how far I can get.

THis is different from just getting sex.. if I want just that, there aresix chicks I can call who will come over in 30 minutes for that. , Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.

The above game, with HBgeek, is far more interesting I think. .  Female Viagra pharmacy, > Then call up chick number 5 to meet in the>parking lot for a BJ.  Remeber those days.  If this was a year ago I'm>sure this chick would have been at your door while you was fucking Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, >someone else.  What has changed?


That is probably so.. in fact, in retrospect, that would have been thething to do (see below) to get this chick to want to fuck me.. live and learn.






And now, the correct solution probably would have been something likeJulian and Rio wrote:


Julian writes:>Hey Maniac, I'm a total newbie at this, but what immediately occurred to>me - once you'd spotted that, you shoulda just let yourself become angry>with her in the debrief, call her a tease, "why if I were over there I'd>tan your hide for that" etc etc... basically morph into caveman mode.


Rio writes:>Just curious if you cut off ALL contact with the chick as soon as she>started freaking out.>I've had to do this several times, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. She acts up, gets whiny, and as soon as>it happens, I just whack the TV on and ignore her.>She's in your place, so she's not going to go anywhere. More likely she'll>want to try to sort things out once you have gone cold to her, buy cheapest Female Viagra, though.


Yep, that would have worked (when she was at my place).. this is whereI fucked up. .  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, I will do this the next time.






Comments and opinions welcome.

Thanks everyone for your EXCELLENT comments on this, I learned alotfrom what you all wrote.


Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.com


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From: Svengali <Svengali_here@use.net>Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Attn: Maniac -- you're directed request for a replyDate: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:57:21 -0800> >> Maniac first said:> >> Where I fucked up, was that I didn't realize that this> >> chick hates herself,> > Svengali wrote:> >errrh.  Wrong!> >Where you fucked up was in not knowing her sexual kino factor, and you> >didn't turn her on with something, anything, that had her wanting to be> >with you both sexually and physically.> Maniac replied:> Ok, now lets move on to svengali's (it is the real sven BTW) excellent> follow up

> My hunch here is that we are both right. I didn't turn her on is> absolutely> right, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. And the reason I didn't turn her on, is that I wasn't the 'jerk'> she> wanted me to be (except for the first date, Where can i find Female Viagra online, but we ran out of time that> day,> after the screambabe invasion). I didn't get angry at her, and make her> feel> like shit, which is what she needs to get turned on. .> > Svengali wrote:> >Look, women say this shit to themselves over, and over, and over again> >to justify what they really want --excitement.  Where do they get> >excitement.  From guys that don't do what all the other guys do.> Maniac replied:  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, > Sven is also TOTALLY right about this. It related to the above. The> first> time she was at my place, I needed to get angry at her, like that> Jupiter> guy and Rio said, turn on the TV and make her show she is a real woman> if> she is to get any of my attention. Just making normal 'moves' isnt> enough> (because I was.. plenty), she needed some 'sparks' to get things going.> > Now, lets look at something else that happened this week for a moment,> because this relates to this in an important way.> > I had a chat with karatebabe last week, buy Female Viagra online cod, because she> was really being icy to me, and almost the same shit as that HBGeek.> I sent her a sayonara note the next day for her misbehavior (I had> really> planned to break up with her because I was tired of her shit).> > Then she wrote back (since I have been seeing her for over 6 months,> I get the truth from her).. 'why you dont get angry at me, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. That is how> couple can really communicate, I want to see your anger. But I was cold> all day and night (though she did let me fuck her), and you WOULDNT get> angry with me. Why. it is not normal!' [end karatebabe chat]> > This here is key.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, She gets excited when I get angry, and call the> bullshit with her DIRECTLY. I was AFC'ing it out, and tolerated her> shit,> and just tried to do more 'romantic' talk and shit like that.. but she> wanted a fight. THAT is what turns her on. And she said so.. directly!> > Ok, now back to HBGeek, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. .> svengali continues:> > Svengali wrote:> >You're dead wrong!> >Honestly!> >And if you keep basing your actions on just one, few or some women,> > you are headed for diaster, Buy Female Viagra without a prescription, after diaster, after diaster.> Maniac replied:  > I will defer to Svengali on this one. I am curious then, what would you> (Svengali) have done in this situation. That will make things more clear> to me for the next time. Please be detailed in the reply, it will be> more helpful to me that way.


You got it.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, First off, I'm not into self deprecating/bi-polar women.

Here's how you discover them: Going through your own natural style ofsaying and doing whatever, you see that she's not responding very well.

So you try another avenue, and that doesn't seem to work.  Okay, onemore time through another venue.  Nope, didn't work.


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Hey bitch, I didn't ask you this time, I told you...  Now get your assin gear and do it.  [Dead silence, order Female Viagra, big stare down.]She does, she's self deprecating/bi-polar.

She doesn't, and complains/screams: time for scum route.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, "Stop.  I don't want to hear any of your shit.  You're clearly not goodenough for me or anyone else for that matter."Very important: YOU fucking walk and present yourself to next ravishingbeauty you see.  Also very important: you must do this at this point,so you're just going to have to pick the best from what is available.


Alright, now the pro's and con's and everything else that goes into theabove.

1) The bitch does what you say, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.  Fine you've got an S-M situation witha self deprecating/bi-polar woman.  If that's what you want, and ifthat's what you're prepared to deal with, more power to you becauseyou're going to need it.

2) She complains/screams, but stops you before you go, and apologizes:you've got a woman who wants to be dominated, and was testing you tosee if you could do it, Purchase Female Viagra online, and herself to see if this is really what shewants: to be controlled by some guy (her actions told you yes).


She complains/screams, you leave, and she, because you are giving herthe opportunity to do so {see why I said what I did?}, comes to you andapologizes.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, Fine, you say, but she is going to have to make up for herwrong-doing.  {If you don't know where you would go with this, I'mspeaking to the wrong kind of guy.  However, is this the kind of womanand relationship you want to be having?}


Having been there, Maniac, I can tell you that S-M relationships getreal boring, real fast.  Yeah, they're a party for awhile, but then youquickly discover that the women don't do or eat shit --literally--until you tell them to do so.  You will also discover that even thoughyou think you are the master in this kind of relationship, you quicklylearn that you are just as much a slave to it, as you have made her andit out to be.  One other thing, the first guy to come along that iseven more brutal and cruel then you, she's out of there and with him, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.

Then you have that situation to deal with, Female Viagra price.  {It's just like the moneywomen who leave to go the next even richer guy.}  So thank you, but nothank you.  It's a no win situation.


I strongly suggest to you, as a guy who has seen other guys who havebeen stabbed, shot and even bludgeoned awake while they were sleeping,that you forget about self deprecating/bi-polar and/or S-M leaningwomen.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, In the end, your life will just be miserable for havinginvolved yourself with them.


Read my "Svengali Secret" post next.


--

  'o o'Svengali




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From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Maniac-followup to HBhatesherselfDate: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:30:44 GMT


Maniac wrote:


Ok, first let us look at the basic premise of what is wrongwith the chick. After the chat with her, and then the discussionsafter here on ASF, my hunch is that my initial premise of thischick is right  (that she wants a playboy or other sort of 'jerk'to play/abuse her, as a form of self punishment).

Zipjack, (a very bright lady, who actually posts alot of usefulthings on the NG, Female Viagra samples, seems to concur, here is a little of what shewrote)


zipjack wrote:>BF's, no. I'd be interested to know what she means by "good guy", Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. Now,>to your credit, Maniac, you've always been forthright with women, if I>am to believe what you post here, which I do, for the most part.>You should draw her out about what she means by "good guy".>It sounds like what she really needs is someone to talk to.>...>She may be looking for something different than the typical LTR.>Its possible that she's very literally seeking punishment fromyou.




Maniac wrote:




Ok, so now what do we do about it.

Well, first thing, is what are my goals with a chick. They are to:1)Lay her2)Make this the best experience she ever had with a guy3)Make her dying to see me whenever I want her to4)Make her see this later as being a very positive experience5)Not do too much work to achieve the above on any given chick (ie.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, know when to cut my losses)






So if I understand you correctly, you want something that is able toevolve that allows her to develop these self-hating tendencies intosexual expression of literal representation: S and M, basically.

You don't want a traditional LTR, but a sexual odyssey of sorts, thatcould be ongoing.

I will tell you something, online buy Female Viagra without a prescription. There are women who desire just such asituation, but it is very difficult to express this to a man withouthaving him misunderstand completely.

She may or may not be one of these women, but I think she was lookingfor a reaction that would indicate your tastes. She was looking forsome kind of emotional/physical response to her disclosure, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.

Did you let her see YOUR desires.

I don't have much time to get into this right now, but will attempt tolater on. What kind of emotional comfort could you give her throughtaking the right kind of control. (Perhaps this is a question she'sasked herself on some level.) On the other hand, she could be lookingfor a straight, missionary style LTR, leading to marriage and babies,in which case you should cut bait immediately.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, More to follow,


Kate




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From: whoisthis19@my-deja.comNewsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: ]Debriefing HBGeek. Maniac learns about self-hating chicks.

Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:06:20 GMT


In article <91erl5$7ef$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  maniac_high@yahoo.com wrote:> >Look, women say this shit to themselves over, and over, and overagain> >to justify what they really want --excitement.  Where do they get> >excitement.  From guys that don't do what all the other guys do.>> Sven is also TOTALLY right about this. It related to the above, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription. THe> first> time she was at my place, I needed to get angry at her, like that> Jupiter> guy and Rio said,




This reminds me of what a woman friend told me one time.  She was awoman who always got into abusive relationships and eventually ended upin prison for shooting a boyfriend.  She was a really good friendthough.  After she got out of prison, she turned her life around throughalot of hard work and help.  Buy Female Viagra No Prescription, I was never afraid of her and we had agood friendship.


Anyway...


One day we had a long talk over coffee.  (I'd never do her since she'sbutt ugly but still a great friend.)  She tells me about how herboyfriend one time threw her down on the floor, pinned her her down andchoked her till she lost consiousness.  He was screaming;  "II'LL KILL YOU!!!!!".  That was the last thing she remebered before shelost conciousness, Buy Female Viagra No Prescription.  She said at that moment she felt tottally loved byhim because she had all the INTENSITY of his feelings focused on her.

She said she was addicted to that and even though she would telleveryone how she didn't like the abuse she would still "end up" in oneabusive relationshp after another.  She just never knew any other way tofeel loved.  She said she would always push the man to the point ofrage.  Like I said it took alot of hard work and support for her to getwhere she is today.  (She was in prison for about 10 years.)


greg the recovering one


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From maniac_high@yahoo.com Wed Dec 29 08:55:18 1999From: "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com>Subject: Chick Report. Detecting and controlling women who want to be controlled.

Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastFollowup-To: alt.seduction.fastDate: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:52:26 GMT


Chick Report. Detecting and controlling women who

want to be controlled.

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This is not strictly a PU report like my others, Buy Namenda No Prescription. I have

found that many chicks like to be controlled, and that

this is a very intense and pleasurable feeling for many

women. I am going to talk about that in this report,

using recent experiences I have had with HB Afro,

HB Ass and Ms. Kinky (see lay reports on my site for

more info about these particular women..).  If you are

looking for just how to PU a chick, then this report is

not for you..  Buy Namenda No Prescription, But if you are wondering how to totally

get into a chick's head, and make her feel intense

feelings like no one else has ever made her..then read

on.


Warning, this is not your ordinary outing report.  Order Namenda, Its

long, and there is all sorts of shit on psychology,

control, SM and other stuff like that in here that gets

chicks's rocks off. Constructive comments and

opinions on these stories are welcome.


First an overview. Most of the chicks I fuck know I

fuck other chicks, Buy Namenda No Prescription. They also have told me that they

continue to see me because no guy has ever been able

to make them feel as good as the way I can make

them feel, and that no guy has ever been able to get

in,  and control their bodies.., and their minds,.. like I

do, and make them feel so good and ecxtasy while it

is happening .that somehow I have a special talent

for this..


I don't know if its true, but thats what I have been

told..  So I will talk about what I do, how and why, buy Namenda online no prescription,

and will ask for your opinions on what might be

happening and why the chicks might like this so

much..  Buy Namenda No Prescription, First, some things about myself.  I like sex, and PU.

But also I like more than that. I like to not only fuck a

chick, but I am fascinated about how to get into a

woman's mind, and manipulate all of her emotions

absolutely.exctasy, fear, excitement, pain, control,

both physically and emotionally. in such a way, that

I can control the experience for the woman, so that it

is very intense feeling psychologically as well as

physically, Namenda over the counter, and extremely pleasureable.


-The women:


Actually, the chicks you meet in bars with the short

skirts and sexy heels, are NOT into this sort of thing

usually.they are a very much what you see is what

you get, Buy Namenda No Prescription. She is often not so bright, likes a simplestraight fuck, and then goes home, or goes shopping

for more skirts or something. You cannot do mind

games with dumb chicks.you say stuff, but nothing

happens inside her head.. I don't go out long with

dumb chicks..even if they are hot and sexy.. I fuck

them till I get bored, and then breakup with them, or

LJBF them..  Buy Namenda No Prescription, as after the physical fuck, there is

nothing more you can do really.


Rather, I found that the chicks that are most into this

sort of thing, tend to be highly intelligent, and on the

outside at least, rather conservative looking. They

may be very physically attractice, buy Namenda without a prescription, but they wear long

skirts, thick glasses.ie the "librarians" of the

world. So what I tend to do, is PU the librarians,

and then take them shopping for sexy clothes, and

corrupt them more and more as they go out with me..

They also are really good fucks, and also like the

mind fucks too.


-HB ass has her fun., Buy Namenda No Prescription. how I find out she likes agony

and humiliation (and use that to give her thebest fuck she ever had)


This all started with HB ass (see other report posted

today).  We decided one day to see an erotic movie.

There is a famous film in Japan called "Topaz" (it is

also available in the USA, its called "Tokyo

Decadence", and is artsie, but erotic (ie. A real

film..with a story/plot/cinimatography, Namenda samples, but with

fucking.dont think they make this sort of thing in

hollywood).  Buy Namenda No Prescription, The story is about bubble era (1980s,

Japan was buying the whole world..)  decadence in

Tokyo, and in particular, about an SM (sado-massochistic) call girl (she is "M".the slave) and her

life during that time period.


HB ass and I choose this film. There is a scene about

20 minutes in the film, where one of  these rich

Japanese industrialist guys has the girl come to his

penthouse appartment on the 40 `th floor of  hisappartment in Tokyo. He has her wear a t-back and

stockings and a sexy top and heels. He greases her

hair with gel, and then decides to humiliate the chick

by making her stand in the window of his appartment,

seeing all the traffic and people walking far below.

She is embarrased, but he makes her do it, Buy Namenda No Prescription. Then he

tells her to dance, and slowly strip off her clothes, and

t-back, like "all of those horny office ladies at work

always dying for a fuck". She is bad at it, and he

makes her practice the striptease in the window over

and over, he massages her cunt, and tells her to

imagine how she is such a horny fuck slut and that

she really wants to get it.. he makes her do this in the

window until night falls, order Namenda from mexican pharmacy. She is all in a sweat at this

and is really excited.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, After that, the guy brings up his wife, who is also into

this scene. The wife (an HB), comes up, and the guy

starts fucking the wife in front of the slave chick, who

now is tied with a vibrator in her cunt running. He

tells the slave chick that after the window, she is

probably dying for a fuck now, but he wont fuck her,

rather she has to watch him fuck the wife, and she has

to settle for the vibrator. He makes the slave chick

bend over, and push her ass against the wall, so the

vibe goes in deeper, while she is looking at the guy

fuck his wife..  The slave chick is in agony as she

wants to be fucked so bad, Buy Namenda in canada, and is being stimulated so

much by the window strip, the vibe, and seeing the

couple fuck, but she cant.


HB ass saw this scene, and it made her nuts, Buy Namenda No Prescription. It was

the most erotic thing she ever saw she said. (Actually,

this is an excellent film for this scene alone, it is

cinametographically very well done, and not "porn

film" like in any way at all.absolutely highly

recommended if you want to see if a chick is into this

sort of thing.., and dont like trashy porn tapes. Also

check out "Shitsu-raku-en (Lost Wonderland),

another film of the same type.not porn, but a real

movie with lots of real sex.tastefully done that a

woman would like it..also available in the US I think).


So I realized, that HB ass likes to be controlled, I

thought this was interesting.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, I got her a vibe, tied her

hands together, and started playing with her with it,

turning it on, and then off just before she would come,

and then turning it back on again. I realized, buy no prescription Namenda online, that by

doing this, I could control her mind, by controlling

her body, and denying and giving her pleasure as I

wanted.. So then I decided to play a mind game with

this. On the picture in Nathan's old lounge, she is

wearing a really short spandex mini. It is REALLY

short, and REALLY tight. But at the time, HB ass

was a conservative librarian, she wouldn't dare wear

that in public, Buy Namenda No Prescription.


So, while I was doing the vibe game with her, I would

stop the vibe, just before she came, and then tell her if

she wanted to come, she'd have to wear the super

mini to the disco some night.  Namenda price, She whimpered and

whined "no I cant..embarrassed..blah blah", so I turn

on the vibe, wait till she is about to come, and then

stop it, and ask again.then tell her how she is

feeling so horny now (she says "yes"), and how she

really would like to come (she says "yes"). I start the

vibe again, wait till she is just about to, and then stop

it, and tell her again the request (to wear the super

mini out one night). This happens a few more times,

and finally she agrees, and I make her say "I promise

to wear the super mini out one night when you

decide".  Buy Namenda No Prescription, Then I start the vibe and tell her it will be

embarraseing. She says "yes, it will be". I ask her if

she will enjoy it, she says "yes", order Namenda online c.o.d. I up the vibe, and let

her come. Then I untie her and fuck her.


They call that in "SM", a "scene" (kind of like a

movie scene), Buy Namenda No Prescription. I always debrief a chick after a "scene"

to see what she liked, and didn't like, because during

the scene, she is living out her imagination, so you

cant listen really to what they say literally, you have

to watch real carefully, to make sure the chick is

actually enjoying the "scene" and enjoying the

emotions and sensations she is feeling.. So I always

debrief after.


HB ass said that she really enjoyed it. She liked not

being able to move, she liked wearing only the T-back, and having avibe in her, Online buy Namenda without a prescription, and the way I tortured

her by preventing her from coming.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, She said the

decision to wear the skirt was really hard, and agony,

and that somehow also made it pleasureable in an

extremely intense way. Somehow it was much better

than just being fucked by a regular guy she said,

because she felt agony, being controlled, and

powerless, and humilated (by thinking of having to

wear the skirt, and having to tell me how she is such a

horny bitch and she really wants to fuck and be

embarrassed to wear the skirt), like her mind was

being fucked and not just her body.


That was my first real SM experience.. I liked it too,

the way I could control her like that, absolutely, and

make her agree to something that had I just asked her

at the dinner table during supper (about the skirt), I

would have just gotten a "no, are you out of your

mind!, and then maybe an argument). , buy Namenda online cod.


Anyways, the weekend came, and it was time for HB

ass to fulfill her promise and wear the super mini

out, Buy Namenda No Prescription. FUCK it was short. Her but cheeks almost hung

out of it. But man was she sweet in it. EVERYONE

looked at her in the street (I made her wear open

crotch fishnet, and a black t-back, and black high

heels and a tight black top).  Buy Namenda No Prescription, Fortunately, all the

highschool kids dress the same way just for fun, so I

wasnt worried about her getting in trouble or

anything. She felt embarrassed, some how humiliated.

It was a fun evening, and dancing, and always she

was very self conscious people trying to look up her

ass as she went up the stairs and stuff.


BUT,.she LOVED IT. She said it made her feel

really erotic, and really like a woman. But had I not

made her do it (the way I made her do it, with the

vibe), she never would have agreed, and it wouldn't

have been fun the way it was fun like that, Buy Namenda No Prescription.  Buy cheapest Namenda, Again, she

said it was the feeling in her mind of being controlled,

and powerless, that made it so exciting. Sex that night

was really good.


I did this several times (using vibe torture to make her

agree to things). There is a very large fetish ball that

happens in Tokyo every month,, she wanted to go, so

I made her wear a costume to it that was very

revealing.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, (I will try to put it on Nathan's page), sexy,

but somehow elegant. Again, she felt controlled, and

sexy, and like an object.which she said she really

liked.


Finally, another time, I made her do the scene in the

movie, purchase Namenda online, in a hotel room in one of the Tokyo hotel

towers., the striptease in the window. She was

reluctant to go in the window, but then I did more

"vibe torture", and as she went each step of the way, I

ran the vibe a little more, making her take off more

and more in the window, standing on a table, with

Tokyo below. She got really hot and excited, saying it

was humilating, but she felt totally controlled, used,

and somehow, that was so pleasureable, Buy generic Namenda, that people

might see her, and that she had no choice, as she

wanted to come so badly, with the vibe running in

her, and that was such a wonderful experience.


Later I made her do other stuff, like troll around the

city in the super mini with no panties (now that is

risky), and that really scared her, but also she really

got off on it after the fact.and she wanted to do it

again., Buy Namenda No Prescription.


Now she is into swing parties and getting fucked by a

bunch of guys at once (and I didn't even have to ask

her that.it was HER idea). and she was just a

conservative librarian looking chick when I met her.


I found out from this whole experience, that (some)

chicks really like to be controlled in their mind, and

their bodies, and want to give it all to you.if you can

use all that, and make her feel crazy in her mind, she

will do almost anything you ask.. And she says I am

the best BF she ever had, because only I know how to

really control her, and get into her mind in every

way..  Buy Namenda No Prescription, Strange.


-Ms, where can i buy Namenda online. Kinky. how I found out she likes pain, and

how I use that to give her the best fuck she ever had..


With HB ass, when I humilated her, or gave her vibe

torture, she went into extasy. I tried to spank her

once, but no reaction at all, Buy Namenda No Prescription. That doesn't drive HB

ass.


Ms Kinky it turns out, is the opposite. She is a very

bright, pretty girl. See the lay report on my sight for

how I found out the very first night she was kinky

(basically, I fucked her while holding her hands down

over her head, and she faked a struggle, Online buying Namenda, and went into

total extasy.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, Coming off the HB ass experience, I tried the vibe

torture thing with her to see the results.. there were no

results. she didn't react at all to it. Then I lightly

pinned her hands up against the wall, and spanked

her bottom, and she totally went into state. It was like

night and day, but it was obvious what turned her on,

(and not).  I realized each chick is different, Buy Namenda No Prescription. HB ass

likes humiliation and agony, but Ms. Kinky likes

physical abuse. She likes to be spanked, get her

breasts and nipples slapped, grabbed, and pinched,

hot wax, buy Namenda no prescription, being whipped.all of it.


She is funny too, because her limits are very definate.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, Inside the limits, she will go all the way and totally

nuts, but if you cross over to something she may not

like, she will totally and instantly lose state. You have

to watch it carefully. As an example, the first night I

fucked her, I raised her skirt while walking at night,she liked the humilation.. but then I wanted to go to

the park at night and play in the woods, and she

totally freaked out in the wrong way, and lost state. It

was because she was afraid of her safety (actually, it is

safe..but she didn't feel safe in her own way). So I had

to watch out for that, Buy Namenda No Prescription. She totally lost state if she

wasn't comfortable with the environment she was

"playing" in. But if the environment is "ok" for her, Namenda for sale, she will move much fast than HB ass does in the

games.


For example, I also took her to that fetish party, the

first time, and I ordered her to just take off her

(librarian) skirt she wore from the office and spend

the rest of the evening in her tback only. She did so

immediately with no resistance.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, Basically, she decided

she felt safe in the environment, so she gave her body

to me totally to do whatever I wanted with and she

would just do it and take whatever humilation or

feeling (physical or psyhological) that the scene gave

her, because I was the boss, and she was my slut, and

she had no choice in the matter. That was her game,

and that was the way she liked it played. I had

absolute control, so I used it because I knew, that deep

down, that is what SHE wanted me to do.


If I was an AFC, I wouldnt have recognized that she

was giving herself to me to do what I want with her,

and I would have asked her to do something. That

would have totally ruined her game, as now she had a

CHOICE, where can i find Namenda online, and was not able to play being "controlled".

Probably if I was like that, she would have dumped

me after the first fuck, Buy Namenda No Prescription.


Actually, I realize now, (see the original lay report),

that all that resistance and BS she gave the first night,

was just to see if I would control her, since that is

what she really wanted, and that is what she was

testing for. If when she said she doesnt want to fuck

the first night, I said "OK" and sent her home, I

would have never seen her again.. But I stayed on her,

and got her.ie. She was "taken", and could play her

game of being "used", Purchase Namenda online no prescription, and "controlled", so I was "in",

and then our relationship began.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, I also did the hotel window thing with her. She got

into it right away, and liked the humilation aspect of

it. I made her do it in the day, which I didn't make

HB ass do. At first she didnt want to (fake resistance,

fear), but it was weird, I put clothespins on her

nipples, and whipped her ass a bit, and then she

jumped right in the window, and did the sexiest strip

tease I ever saw. She was panting and sweating, and

DYING for a fuck right there to whoever might have

giving it to her. She felt (physically) safe, and went

TOTALLY into it, Buy Namenda No Prescription. She started saying all by herself, buy Namenda from mexico,

"I am your  slave, you control me completely, for

whatever you want, I am yours to use".. I was actually

surprised when I heard this.but I saw her mind was

now totally into the world I took her into. while she

was standing in that window nude, the pins on her

nipples eating at her, and her ass getting slapped.for

her.it was heaven..


She told me after that no guy ever did this with her,

and could enter hew mind like I did..same as HB

ass, different physical gateways to the inside,..but the

same result.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, And she said, that is why she sees me,

even though I see other chicks.. she is also a trulely

wild fuck when she gets going.




-HB Afro.the exhibitionist


I havent been seeing HB afro as long as the others

(see lay report on my site). She is a dancer, Where can i order Namenda without prescription, and is

very hot and sexy. Dancers are often exhibitionist and

she was no exception. I quickly found out this was

her thing (was easy, Buy Namenda No Prescription. hey you like that really short

skirt.. Her :  YES!, I want to wear it!).


She is a tough case, because, in some ways, her limits

are beyond my own. She will wear a super tight skirt,

and let it rise up so her ass hangs out.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, I got a

problem with that (I just want the girl to be afraid her

butt will hang out, and then be embarressed and pull

the skirt down). HB Afro wont do that, she wants

everyone to see her ass. Not minding that you can get

in trouble for this, I had to find other ways to get her

off, without causing (me) any trouble. At least though

I knew what she liked, where can i buy cheapest Namenda online.


I tried vibe torture (no reaction), and spanking (no

reaction)..exhibitionism is definitely her thing..


So, I decided to pay the ultimate exhibitionism game

with her, Buy Namenda No Prescription. I remember in highschool, once, we

played a joke on a kid. We got into his locker, and

took all his books and put them in another locker.

Then in his own locker, we put a note, with a riddle,

and a guide to get to another (empty) locker in the

school. In that locker, there was another note/riddle,

and a guide to the next locker after that.after about

10 lockers and 10 riddles, the last locker had the

guide to the locker where his books really were..  Buy Namenda No Prescription, So I decided to make an adult version of this same

game, and make this chick play it in Shinjuku station

(a very very large complex train station in central

Tokyo).  Rx free Namenda, I got some various very sexy costumes (but

still wearable in public places), and set up a "riddle

maze" with the coin-operated lockers in the train

station.


I gave her a portable phone, and told her to call my

portable if she got lost, I gave her the first locker key,

and the first riddle card, and a digital camera (to take

pictures of herself to prove to me she was doing each

step of the game and wearing each item at each place

as the notes said). She also had to call me at each step

so I could wander by, and see how she looked (she

had to ignore me though..part of the rules).


The first step, she had to wear a super mini. She did,

and she walked around the station letting the bottomhalf of her ass hang out (after I told her to watch it

didn't start to go up)..but she liked it that way, sothats what she did, Buy Namenda No Prescription. The next locker, the note said she

had to get somebody in the station to sign her leg with

a marker up near her ass (embarrassment). Then she

had to go to the next locker at the other end of the

station wearing that, and change into the next

costume at the locker (slip one over the other and take

off the under, without showing anything). The next

was a partially see through mini dress..boy was it

sexy, Namenda pharmacy. You could just see the outline of the tback

through it.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, Very sexy on her (she is a tiny 38kg chick

HB). Then the next locker, another super mini, and

this time no panties (she had to leave the panties in

the locker, and I would come by later with the key and

make sure they were there), and then she had to have

somebody sign the other leg up near her ass

(embarssing, super mini..no panties).and on nextlocker, till she finished the game.


Her thoughts at the end. She LOVED IT. She said

her favorite part was getting her legs just below her

ass signed by strangers in the station (she said it was a

college initiation game she was playing..to them), as

it was so scary and humilating, and exciting. This was

the way into this chicks mind, Buy Namenda No Prescription.


After that, I took her to a love-hotel (funky hotels in

Japan intended just for fucking, Buy cheap Namenda no rx, with bladerunner-deco room/building designed and neon..very cool).

We were on the 2 `nd floor in love hotel district in

Shinjuku, and I made her strip naked in the window

(lights out). The sidewalk was right below, her heart

went pitter patter pitter patter as if anyone walked by,

they WOULD see her, so it was risky for her.. She

loved it though, and said she was so scared, but so

excited!, and she went all the way, and then after that,

it was awesome fucking all night.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, Another night with HB afro, we went to a big park at

night in central Tokyo. There are homeless people all

over in the woods, but they are harmless (this is

Japan). SO we went into the woods, and I made her

strip down to her t-back, Namenda from canadian pharmacy. shadows in the distance

would look at her, and she was embarressed, she

knew she was being looked at. I made her strip down

to her t-back, and fondled her, and made her crazy.

Then I took her around in the woods just with her T-back, and then strip all the way, Buy Namenda No Prescription. Then I told her to go

to a place nearby (like atree) and then comeback.

There were collegeguys skateboarding in another part

of the park, we saw, and I had her walk torward them

in the trees topless, and her skirt up. She was afraid,

and said she couldn't do it, but I made her. Each time

she stopped too early, Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, I told her then she had to go

even closer now, because she didnt follow me

instructions the first time.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, SO she did.


After that, she told me how it was so exciting, and

embarrassing if someone turned around, and would

have seen her.but it made her so horny. Then we

walked home after she got her top back, and pulled

her skirt down.


For fun, I took her panties away though, and made

her walk home in the micro mini (the one that she

hung her asscheeks out in in the train station), in the

dark. I made her bend over (for the view), and it

would raise her skirt way up, and told her, she had to

get to the next block before she could pull it down. All

the hair was hanging out front and back, Buy Namenda No Prescription. Sometimes, order Namenda no prescription,

she got too embarressed, and pulled it down before

she got there, so I just made her do it again at the next

block after that, until she would follow my

instructions exactly.


When we got home, and fucked intensly, I debriefed

the scene with her, and asker her how she felt during

it all. She said the times she felt really embarressed

and didn't follow my instructions (ie. Pulled the skirt

down too early, or stopped going closer to the

skateboaders), but I made her do it again even more

as "punishment", were her favorite parts.  Buy Namenda No Prescription, She said she

liked getting in "trouble", and then having to face the

"consequences" of something even more

embarrasing/worse..


-Conclusion.


I am curious, how much of this applies to foreign

chicks. The reason I ask, is because I know that

humiliation, public embarrassment and control run

deep down in the fiber of the Japanese consciousness.

On late night TV in fact, such games are often shown

(thats where I got some of the ideas actually).  Fuji-TV

has an SM show at 1am each week, and there are

many game shows where chicks that lose have to

strip off a piece of clothes each time they lose the

round, or something like that, Buy Namenda No Prescription. Strip rock-scissors-paper is a common game too, on TV (broadcast

networks BTW, not cable), and on school

playgrounds, in cartoon magazines..etc. Its weird,

because, here, all of this is totally mainstream, in

magazines ("Lets SM guide!"), on TV, and in

commercials.. Maybe thats why it works that way

here.not sure..


So, there you go.opinions guys.ladies?.

What is your opinion on the phenomena I have run

into with these chicks.. and what makes themlike such treatment, the total mind+body fuck.


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So if you can lose weight (by eating well), you should. Lets face it, food in the USA,

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