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Cainshome introduces a PU game: the 'quarter' game!


From cainshome@hotmail.com Fri Dec  1 23:22:06 2000
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Fun little mindreading trick/PU game....
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 06:42:13 GMT

    	I was picking up a petite 8.5-9 (HB-Pixie) tonight (might post the 
lay report some other time). Note this post is a little haphazard, I 
haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this 
whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just 
thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone).

    	Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac-
esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she 
wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I 
was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test 
his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed 
in to improve on my own version ;). 
    	At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic 
routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple 
trick I learned in my youth.
    	On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to 
get quarters off other students. I'd tell them to hold a quarter behind 
their back, mix it around in their hands, bring both out in front of them 
(you know the drill, the old "pick a hand" deal). The bet was if I could 
guess the right hand with the money, they'd give me the quarter. If I 
guessed wrong, I'd give them 3 quarters. I won about 95% of the "bets" I 
made like this. Trick to winning the bet was when they'd bring the hands 
back out straight in front of them, their nose would point just "slightly" 
to the hand with the quarter. You might be able to try it in front of a 
mirror and see it in yourself, but knowing the trick will probably screw it 
up for you. Try it on someone else though, almost always works.

    	Anyway, I had thought about using this in a pu a few days ago (came 
up with a routine for it) and decided what the hell, cant hurt. So here, 
without further adu, is the amazing instinctive mind reading trick!
    
      I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter 
(when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between 
my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter 
from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do 
the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I 
knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". 
She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a 
little monologue something like this:
"You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the 
disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep 
down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your 
instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not 
worded exactly like this, but similar)
    	At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no 
quarter), and said "here, you try". Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, 
brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the 
problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus 
being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you."
    	Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for 
her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about 
"see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". 
While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put 
it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket 
your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and 
that we needed to go to las vegas together.

    	It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and 
the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got 
considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole 
pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier 
tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation 
of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you 
dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well 
with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions 
game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol).


Thoughts? Other little tricks/games?

Live, learn, crash and burn,
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Lay Report, bagging chicks who want casual sex!

From maniac_high@yahoo.com Wed Apr 26 08:37:02 2000
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Lay Report! HB Vamp wants casual sex!
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

Lay Report! HB Vamp wants casual sex!
000424

Hi All,

This is the first installment of a lay report double feature this 
week! HB Vamp is a gorgeous super thin J-chick I met in a 
Tokyo disco several months ago (picture going in Nathan's 
lounge soon), before my Rio trip.  Weighs 40Kg (100lbs or something?),
5"2, and really thin/sexy. Now she is 36, but looks 22 
(common actually with J-chicks.no fat, no wrinkles.just 
hot hot, thin and ultra sexy, and at that age, know what to do in 
bed.). She always wears these really tight 
jeans (size 2)? , which showed the perfect curves of her little 
sassy ass.. 
HB vamp it turns out, likes getting bitten on the side of her 
neck during sex..

This lay was interesting, because she overtly wanted casual 
sex, and this time, thanks to NYC's help with my Ms. Tubby 
and Ms. Sparkles fuckups (see stories on my website), I got it 
right this time, and did the chick, and not only that, said to 
call whenever I wanted a fuck, and she didn't care who else I 
fucked..

Okay, lets do this story from the beginning and she what I did 
right & wrong..

I met HB Vamp and got her number back in February 
sometime, and then went out with her for drinks back in 
February. The goal then was to elicit values, and try to get 
some patterns on her, and see what the results where.

I found out the first drinks session, that she didn't like her 
job, and wanted to quit (she was an office lady). When I tried 
to talk about romantic things (L-vs-A pattern, fascination, 
IC..etc), I was just getting nowhere, she said that she didn't 
want a BF now, and was wary of all the complications, and 
wasnt ready for a relationship. She just wanted friends she 
said.. This sounded pretty grim, (reminded me of Ms. 
Tubby's convo during supper). and then I remembered what 
NYC said, that maybe she doesnt want a relationship, but she 
wants sex (since hey, she is sitting here with me, isnt she!). 
So I started with lots of Mr. Smooth style kino (which was 
easy, because now I always choose bars that I sit NEXT to the 
chick, and not face to face with a table between us where no 
kino is possible). She didn't resist this at all.. (touching 
shoulder, wisde of waist in authortative manner).

We did have a problem though that it was a weeknight, and 
getting late, and we both had to work.. so no sex tonight I am 
afraid.

The next time I see her in another bar in Shibuya area of 
Tokyo, near my house (the idea is to get her back to my place 
after a drink or two). I find out she likes drinking, as she says 
she has wines sometimes at her place. This time, I brought 
that tiny PC I have with all the pictures and show her the 
same ones I showed HB Brains the time before I fucked her as 
well.. That worked well, and she was getting used to me. 
Now the funny thing I noticed with this chick, is that she 
didnt do any of the non verbal signs like reciprocating Kino, 
or anything, but she would let me touch her..this was good, 
and I start touching her a bit more aggressively, legs, arms, 
hands.this is still ok. 

I ask her if she is romantic, and she laughs, and says not at 
all.. I ask her about her old BFs and she doesnt have much 
experience (she says, but not sure I believe her).. I am at a 
loss a bit for talking, because none of the regular RJ/romantic 
patterns are working, and neither are the "adventure" ones. I 
am really having trouble hooking into things she likes to talk 
about, but find she likes plants and gardening, and dancing.. 
that is good, so I start talking about the passion of dance with 
that dance pattern I posted last year. THAT gets results..I 
can see her imagining that.

But the thing is she is still not showing any signs of liking me 
in any particular way besides casual friend (except she lets me 
do kino). This is odd I figure, but then I remember Ms. 
Tubby, and it was this way as well.

I decide to go for it, and ask her to stop by my place on the 
way home (excuse I used was to see my house). She didn't 
resist..that was cool, but it was nearing 10pm, and last train is 
11:30. Not much time, but lets see what I can do I figure. We 
get to my place, and we do some Kino, but time is really 
short, so I show her around, and we have to go back soon 
(really lame, but cabs are expensive to her place, so out of the
question) to the station.. 

When at the station, I hug her, and she accepts, and then say 
"Do you want to kiss me" a-la Mystery style.. She says "sure", 
PLOP..on the lips. I get one, and she goes.

Now, fast forward 2 months to tonight. I keep all this in 
mind, and plan a strategy how to lay a chick (if I dont make a 
plan how to lay the chick before I meet her, I have a lot of 
trouble). Well, I elicited her values, and I know she likes: 
dance, gardening, serious work (and not easy job), friends, 
and simple/uncomplicated things and drinking wine. She 
hates complex relationships. So I kept that in mind, and made 
a plan and wrote up a few notes to review before meeting her. 
I also noticed, that except for her talk, she made NO kino/kiss 
resistance WHATSOEVER, EVER. I keep this in mind 
when I make my plan..

My notes said:
-As Taro says, immediately on meeting her, hug and kiss her 
to set the evening tone (ie. our world routine)
-Go to bar, drink, and get really kino..
-Talk about friendship (basically the plan was do to Smooth, 
talk how we are friends, and close, but touch, and kino her as 
if she was my GF)
-Talk sex story stuff, get her sexually thinking (I would tell 
her about the fuck party I went too (see next lay report 
coming tomorrow)), stuff about old GF's who I fucked and 
how it felt, and see her reactions for each type of girl I went 
out with
-Pour on the Kino
-Get her to my place (use excuse of plant I got to show her).
-Fuck her

Basically, it went like clockwork, though I did trip up slightly 
at my house, but recovered quickly:
Lets look at exactly what happened, and where things went 
off the plan..

I met her, but couldnt find her in the station, then she found 
me.. this tripped me up, because I got surprised, but I did hug 
her, though I didn't kiss her (bad.). Secondly, it was 
POURING rain tonight, and she already had her umbrella, so 
taking her hand to walk was not really possible, fuckup #2.

I lead her to the drinking place (one I can sit next to her, and 
kino her), which I do. We order our drinks, and I start on my 
routine. Since romance stuff got nowhere last time, I totally 
dropped this, and first fluffed (what did you do today (she 
slept till noon, as she's quit her job now and not working yet), 
had coffee, slept more, and did some work around the house.

Then I told her about "my friend who is a play girl, and tried 
to sleep with an investment banker guy living in this rich 
house in Shibuya area of Tokyo, but he got drunk, and 
couldnt fuck her" (this was a true story BTW..because the 
chick is HB Ass, who I also fuck.but  I let her play around 
as I do, and she tells me all the stories of the guys she meets 
and fucks. interesting really, amazing all the AFCs out 
there ;-) ). Then I asked HB Vamp if she ever had a one night 
stand. She said `nono, and shaking her head'.

I ask her what she wants, and she said, that she doesnt want a 
casual relationship, but she doesn't want to get fucked, and 
then instantly dumped either (good to know). Then she talked 
about this guy she knew who was playboy, and she liked him, 
and wanted to sleep with him even though he had like 5 other 
GFs or something, but she was afraid to get instantly dumped 
so she didnt fuck him. I talked to her about how that is kind 
of sad..etc. 

Then according to my plan, I talk about my previous GFs, 
(Ms. Kinky, HB Ass, Hb Brains, the chick I fucked in the 
train station a while back)..etc, and paid close attention to her 
reaction. She was surprised when I said I had never been 
dumped by a girl, rather I broke up with them, and how a girl 
will never dump you if you pay close attention to what a girl 
wants, and what pleases her in bed as well as outside, rather 
than just yourself. 

She laughed and smile.. I am doing lots of kino (hand on 
arm, leg, shoulder).constantly at this point. We talk about SM 
a bit, and I tell her about an evening I was at a party with 
coworkers and the chicks got drunk and I asked them who did 
a 3P (group sex), and how one chick raised her hand. Then I 
asked the other chicks how many wanted to, and they ALL 
raised their hand. and then another chick said how she got 
into costume, and would whip her BF.

I finish the above story with HB Vamp, and she said she is 
not SM type, but "normal" (also good to know). I tell her that 
probably 30 % of chicks are into weird shit like that in Japan, 
but only 15% are brave enough to actually try. She laughs and 
smiles. She tells me that she is so small and cute looking like 
a child, that no one would ever talk to her like I do 
(cool.Maniac is getting into this chick's head now!). She is 
clearly enjoying this, and wants to hear more of my stories. I 
tell her more about the fuck party, and what that was like (I 
told her I went to it last year, not last Saturday though). 

 I see its 9:20. I dont want to run out of time before the fuck 
this time, so I say "want to see my new plant I got (since she 
likes gardening). She says "ok", and we walk to my house (it 
stopped raining fortunately), but I fuck up, and didnt get an 
opportunity to take her hand, as she was blabbing stupid shit, 
and I couldnt (didnt?) interrupt her. I wait for her to finish, 
and want to get the hand so the kino mood isnt lost on the 
walk back to the house (I purposefully met her at a bar near 
my place so I could take her back with me, which she didnt 
resist), and say, well, we are not walking romantically, and 
put my hand in front of her.she takes it with her hand. 
good.

We get to my place..I fuck up here a bit, and didn't kiss her 
on the way in, as she was waiting behind me after seeing the 
plant outside, and wasnt sure to come in.I open the door and 
get her in before she changes her mind, and get her on the 
couch (my couch is modular, has 3 sections.I took out the 
middle one, so now there is only 2 sections, so now the girl 
always has to sit close to me).

I put on some music, She sees my Japanese study papers on 
the table and goes "impressive". Now here is where I usually 
seize up (I have trouble with the makeout in the house for 
some reason often), and almost do this time too. But after she 
says my study was good, I joke with her, and say, oh you're 
impressed, and gesture her to kiss my cheek with my finger 
(whimpy, but I fix this the next time). Then I talk to her about 
some pictures in a magazine on the table, and about womans 
clothes. I remark I am very picky to dress a woman, and often 
shop with my chicks. She asks me about her clothes. She is 
wearing the super tight jeans, and a sweatrunner top. sexy, 
but shitty looking, but I dont say that. I tell her how I like her 
jeans, and that her kind of shape, tight jeans is better than 
skirt unless the skirt is really tight and short. Of course I am 
touching her legs as I describe where the shape is best for 
skirts -vs- shorts, and I get no resistance..this is good. I talk 
about the top too, and have her stand up, and rub her ass, as I 
tell her her jeans fit really well, and in a skirt, you wouldnt 
see that shape, so she is a better as a jeans kind of girl. She 
says I am really serious about dress, and I say I just want a 
girl to look her best.  She says that I am good to pay attention 
such things. I tell her yes, I am good am I, and gesture 
another cheek kiss (I get it). Then I say "a real one.", she 
looks at me odd for half a second, then gives it to me..

She mentionned how that she sometimes wore tight short 
skirt in the office, and that guys would look at her. I asked 
her how it felt, and she said it felt good, and was like a 
compliment..

Now I drift and fuckup a bit, and she picks up this book about 
Japanese culture on the table and starts talking about 
Japanese old things and stuff (uh oh, losing the sexy kino 
mood). This goes for 3 minutes, and I just interrupt and say 
"Excuse me, I have a strange question. I want to kiss you 
again". 

Her mood is very casual looking, but she goes "OK" in a very 
casual way, like in the way someone would reply to "can I 
grab a beer out of the fridge" and INSTANTLY breaks down 
into passionate necking and moaning as I head for the neck 
with my tongue. My hands go to her tits (no resistance 
whatsoever), and down to her cunt, (no resistance 
whatsoever), and start fingering her (no resistance 
whatsoever). I keep going, (she loves getting bitten on the 
neck), and pop off the bra, top, and she is topless, and I go for
her right on the floor of the living room. I pull of the pants 
and panties, and finger her good. 

I havent said a word to her since she said "OK" to the 
kiss..just I am doing. I stop the fingering, and take her 
upstairs (I just take her hand, and lead her up to the 
bedroom/tatami room). We get there, I finger her some more, 
lick/bite her neck, and stop to put the condom on, and then I 
start drilling her for the next hour or two.

I always try lots of stuff to see what she likes/doesnt care. She 
likes front style, slow sex, while getting licked/bitten on the 
neck. She also has an AWESOME body. I love J-chicks..

She is really casual to talk though, and half way, stops to joke 
"just friends right". I say "of course" (remembering Ms. 
Kinky, who always did opposite from what she said) and 
continue drilling her as her face expression fades into 
outerspaceland as I fuck HB vamp the rest of the evening.

Afterwards, I walk her back to the station to go home, and I 
have an interesting chat. She says that she wont tell any of 
our mutual friends (turns out we have some), about this, that 
she just wants casual sex now and again, with no hassle for 
relationships. 

She says she doesnt care if I fuck any other girl I want 
anytime. She says she wants to be just friends when we are 
out in public, and wants no relationship bullshit. Ie. she just 
wants to be friends on good fucking term when we feel like a 
good shag and are in the mood for it.. with no 
commitment/attachment or strings attached. 

I tell her that it is exactly what I am looking for too. I give 
her a kiss, and bid her goodnight.

Things I learned from this lay. Firstly, my mood before 
meeting her was not nervous at all. I was prepared, made 
some notes, executed my plan, and recovered when I fucked 
up.

I also realized (due to the Ms. Tubby fuckup before), that 
some chicks want just sex, and DONT want a relationship (in 
spite of what most guys might believe!).  It is important to 
recognize this early, and adjust the plan.. Had I talked about 
commitment and serious stuff, HB Vamp would have RUN, 
not walked, away from me. I recognized this, and made it 
clear I wanted what she wanted,..  casual no strings attached 
fucking on an "on demand basis".. .. Turns out it suits her 
fine, suits me fine. 

HB vamp also said in one of our talks, that she never calls the 
guy, she always waits (anxiously she says), as its too scary to 
be rejected. That told me that I must do everything., which I 
did, and which she let me. And also, to ignore any resistance 
that she SAYS (versus does). She said she only wanted 
friends, and to a point she was truthful.she wanted friends 
who will fuck her..hard. Had I not caught on to this, I might 
have missed my chance..

And finally. LOTS OF CHICKS WANT CASUAL 
RELATIONSHIPS! They have jobs, lives, hobbies, and some 
just want an independent life, but their body still makes them 
want to fuck. These chicks exist, and will want casual 
relationships! 

Shes a keeper.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

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5 words to save your skin before the BF comes along!


From: Mrsex4uNYC
Newsgroup: Alt.seduction.fast


>> Hey guys help me out here.  I've gone through the basic SS course and
>> I've tried the coffee shops only to find fat middle age housewives
>> buying gift certificates for their fat sisters.  I've tried grocery
>> stores only to get in a scuffle when the husband comes back from across
>> the store with a six pack (she looked single, so much for the 3 second
>> rule).

hahaha this shit is fucking hilarious!  :)

>You got into a scruffle because of SS? I am interested to find out if
>anyone
>else in this NG has had similar confrontations, kicked some ass, or get
>their head pounded in because of SS (ie. picking up a chick).
>
>I mean, I don't give a fuck if the chick has a boyfriend or whatever
>(don't
>touch married women though) anymore, but I'm sure that the other guy does
>mind. This thread isn't really about SS, but is something that I think is
>interesting. I mean, I've seen guys fight over girls and all some someone
>here must have interesting stories.
>NYC? Nathan?

hahahahahaha

listen

I told you guys a long time ago to use ONE fucking line to save your ass MUCH
humiliation:

ARE
YOU
HERE
WITH
SOMEBODY?

learn it.  practice it.  use it!  hehehe :)
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Maniac talks about how/why the 'ManiacPlan' works!



From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Reply to Ash's post about Maniac Plan
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:10:07 GMT

Random thoughts and replies..

Yes, getting ADMIRATION was a key discovery. I discovered it
looking at mystery's stories, and seeing that they were all
things that universally made a chick admire you (escaping bears,
unaided rock climbing after a rope break..,etc), plus remembering
how goldigger chick got into me when I told her about my stock
investing and making money from it.

yes, admiration before sex-accels..etc, is critical..or you go
nowhere.. That was the problem with the chick I failed that other
night.. I just couldnt get her to admire me at the start for anything,
so then nothing else after worked at all..

Re; stories to get sad, then happy.. it elicicits a strong
emotional response I find, and is a good way to initiate even
more heavy kino when you are telling the story. Look at the
movie "ghost".. it is so sad, but then the end, so nice.. it
is an intense emotional reaction for chicks, and that makes them
succeptible to what you say next..

Re: Stories that work -vs dont work in seduction
All stories must have a goal in mind. When you make a story, you
must be able to say to yourself "the purpose of this story is
to make the chick feel/know/experience xxx". If you cant do that
with a given story, then change/ditch the story. This is how I
chose my stories or modified them to get the desired effect.

Just think things that you would like to tell directly to the
chick:
ie: -if you dont fuck me tonight, then you lose your chance
    -I am a good lay and you will enjoy it
    -you can trust me
    -you feel close and comfortable with me
    -you want me
    -you admire me deeply
    -I can choose from many chicks and many chicks want me, and that
     will make you want me even more, so take your chance when I make
     my move
    -me wanting you is a fulfills your selfworth..without that you
     are nothing
    -you are lonely and want someone (me) to hold you, kiss you
     touch you
    -imagine the pleasure of kissing, the excitement of touching and
     feeling each other directly

Now you cannot just say any of the above directly to a chick. She
will tell you to fuck off, hit you and then walk out of the bar..
But if you tell stories which has as their points each of those
above items, then she will internalize it and believe it. If you
look at all my stories in "Maniac Plan", you will see, that each one
has a purpose/message like the above. That is why the stories
work.

Re: did I memorize all of that in "Maniac plan". Of course not ;-)
I only memorized where some of stories in each section go. Since they
are all my stories though, of course I didn't need to memorize the
stories themselves, with exception of mysterys, they are all part of
my life already and really happened.

Each time I do a PU, I only remember to do about 1/2 the things on
the list, and skip around alot, depending what I remember as I do
the PU.


Re: "One idea in the Maniac Plan I hadn't heard before is telling lots
of different sexual stories to try to diagnose what the girl's
kink is, if she has one.  I'm a bit surprised you tell so many of
these stories during a sarge; do you rarely get a bad reaction?    "

maniac replies:
It works because I dont do it at the start. First I do 4 questions
to get her to a deeper state & the age regression. Then I start with
the nani nani story, and move on to the karatebabe PU, and the kiss
in the Sao Paolo bar story. Now the transition is done from regular
boring fluff, to the intimate stuff, so it works. Sometimes the chicks
dont react, or react kind of bad.. when that happens, I stop, and do
more regular stories, or distance them from me (ie. my friend, rather
than me), then try again later, or wait till the question game, and then
introduce the stories as part of the questions I/her ask each other,
then it works better and is more natural..

Re: Teasing (in Ash's post)
My thoughts here are that the teasing were a good excuse to start
kino, thats all. The kino is what got the lay, and not the teasing
itself (which was just a tool to start the kino). My opinion only
though..never tried this.. Though I am in my 30s, so I dont really
go around tackling chicks often ;-)

Re: purpose of "british guy getting played by the girl".. purpose
is to defend against her calling you a playboy because you brought
it up first on the context of a girl playing a guy and how sad it
was. I started to do this because chicks would sometimes ask if
I am a play boy (huh me ;-) ). basically, this story is an
innoculant.

Re: will she pass me up if she is a player if I use this story?
Maniac replies:
Oh, here is the catch.. first I judge the chick.. if she looks like the
player type, I DONT use the british guy story, because this would
disqualify me as the player she is looking for. If she doesnt look
like the player type though, and looks like the type who might question
me about being a playboy, then I will use it.

Re: ourworld
This is a section on my webpage (www.pickupguide.com), all details
are already there..

Re: 'best friend in the world'
This is good, I will use this too!

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Maniac's new framework for executing pickups and lays!




From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sun Nov 19 09:29:14 2000
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Strategy Report: Maniac runs new plan! [long..detailed]
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 19:19:38 GMT
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Strategy Report: Maniac's new plan! [long..detailed]
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This is a very fucking long post and summarizes alot of work I have
been doing
recently. This is why I havent been on ASF these days.. Here's the
result of it all, looking for your thoughts on it guys/ladies..

Recently I have been trying to assemble everything I have been learning
on ASF and elsewhere into a plan, or framework I can use in PU.
Below are the results so far, comments appreciated.

It incorporates a bit of SS, but more "storytelling". I learned this
from Taro san & MrSex4uNYC, who have suggested the idea of using
stories to get
things going.. he is right. I found that SS on its own didn't work
real well for me (too abstract), but SS, combined with effective
storytelling, works far far better (and also I am able to do this
in Japanese).

The results of this in the last few weeks of trying it are
70% Kiss/tonguedown closes, and one fuck close (within 4 hours
of meeting the chick) so far and 2 that are a given the next time
I meet the chick.

I will post the strategy below, and then explain it line by line
after as it won't make much sense on its own.

The strategy of this is to first get basic info about the chick,
elicit her values and then "perform" (as mystery would put it)
stories and games that will elicit responses in the chick to get
her to admire you (I found a chick must admire you for something
before deciding to fuck you, be it looks, intelligence, money,
social skill, sexual skill, or whatever), followed by a lots of
sexual accelerators.

Following mystery's FMAC (Find, Meet, Attract, Close), this most
likely fits the "Attract, Close" parts of the PU. I will work on
Find and Meet later, as this is more complicated I think.

Also, as the below is very structured, it is easy for guys like
me to remember and if you memorize the basic structure, you
can talk for about 4 hours on this, so you will never run out
of things to say again (actually, naninani inspired me to write
this after he said he didnt know what to say on a meeting with
a chick, so here is TONS to say, and elicit a chicks responses).

OK, here it is, and then we go in depth after! It is a work in
progress, it may change, ideas are welcome!

It is easy to remember:

Section headers are:
B (Before you start)
B (Basics)
V (Values)
G (Guys/gals)
A (Admiration)

D (Deeper values)
M (Man)
H (Hentai -- the wierd stuff)
O (Our World)
S (Sex accelerators)

---
Maniac PU beta sheet 001025


{The first part B-BV is to sufficiently 'interview' the
 chick so you know which stories to perform/not perform later
 on, and to get an idea what excites this chick/what are
 values are, so you can do the rest of PU properly}


-->(B)EFORE you Start:
-remember to mirror (you can get away with really alot!)
-tonality
-smile
-sit in place where kino is possible (ie. side to her)
-kino..kino kino!
-get her laughing, admiration stories & laugh yourself
-meet her somewhat near your place
-GOAL: to take her on an intense emotional journey & to travel
 with her..not to lay her  (that is just the bonus round)
-find out if she likes to drink {so you know where to take her next}

If you are meeting her as date again:
-open the "British friend" and what HB Afro did to him (played
 him) just for now say, something happened to my friend, I met
 at lunch regarding a girl I will say later)
 {this is basically the HB afro breakup story (she was playing
 several guys and I found out, applied to 'my friend'.. it is a
 sad story, and draws sympathy right at the start)

(B)ASICS:
-where live?     {so you know if you can go to her place/when she
                  has to go}
-parents/alone?  {BF? can arrange to get to her place?}
-job type/hours? {Know when you can call her/how available is she}
-job location?   {Know good places to meet her/not go with other
                  chicks}


(V)ALUES: Now find her values: (do this so you know what is
 important to her so you know which stories to tell later}

-what is most challenging things about her work {open some
 emotional states now}
 -perform a story that reflects states that she just said
-find out how she spends her free time/hobbies
-what those make her feel (emotional states
 (ie honest (means) -->"secure" (ends))
-Now age regress to see what they missed out on so you can give
 to her now: {ie. if you could re-do your life, what would you
 do differently?}
 -perform age regression/what did you miss out/want story
  (NYC-layguide)
 -in 5 years time, what does she want to be/do?
 -perform a story that reflects states that she just said
-find out her favorite movie {to see what things are important to
 her}
-find out if she is a romantic type (for hand/arm gag later)
 {this gag is that when you then leave the coffee shop, you then
  say "oh, so you are the romantic type you said" and then hold
  out your arm a-la french style.. when you cross a street,
  take 'care' of her and grab her hand!}
-find out if she likes to cook (for cook gag later)
 {this gag is the 'I'm hungry, lets cook something' and take
 her to the grocery and back home to cook it (or for next date)}
-perform favorite izakaya story (for next meeting gag)
 {tell her about "your favourite old style beer hall, and how
  you want to take her to it next time" (it happens to be right
  near your place!)}
-find out if she ever feels alone {then tell her what it would
 be like if she found that 'someone special'}
-find out if she ever wishes she could hug someone
-find out if she is 'adventurous type' (for kiss gag later)
 {kiss gag is at end of the routine, 'well, you said you are
 adventurous type and you have never kissed at the end of a first
 date, so lets kiss!... usually they go for it in this context}


(G)UY/GAL -- find out her ideal guy (you), and ideal girl (herself)
{this tells you what she likes in a guy, and how she sees herself,
 so now you know how to lead your stories later from step (A) below}

-find out her favorite actor {tells you what she likes in a guy}
-find out why she likes him/how he makes her feel
 {now you know what you have to do!}
-find out her favorite actress {probably she wants to be like this
 person, so now you know what to say about things you like in a
 woman..her!}
-find out why she likes him/how he makes her feel
-find out what she likes in a guy/BF
 {and follow what she says Buckwheat!}


(A)DMIRATION -- Now get her to admire you:. At this stage
 the 'interview' questions are over, and now you just tell stories
 bawsed on info from the questions,, to get her to want to fuck you.
'..all the rest of the steps from this one are the same way (stories/
questions designed to excite the chick to fuck you, right up to the
end}

{I learned this from Mystery. He tells these stories that basically
 are universal ways to make a chick ADMIRE you. I found a chick
 must admire you at some level (any level) before she is willing to
 fuck you (running from the bear, rock climing with a broken rope..}

 -perform life is an adventure story
  {my life is like adventure, I travel all over the world, and
   want to always discover new things, you only live life once, and
   this is the one chance which you get!}
 -perform dance story/feeling story
  {dance is like a communication between two people at a different
   level.. it is the body expression of communication, a deep
   relationship between the music, and your partner through movement..}
 -perform investing/internet company/stocks story
  {for playing a gold digger! I make more through my stocks than I
   do my salary (I laid a chick with this line!, and no I didnt buy
   her anything!!)}
 -perform Japanese..work so much but so hard story (for kiss
  cheek gag later).. {I work so hard dont I! then smile and gesture
  a cheek kiss. Everytime I say something right in japanese do it..
  after a few times, say "I want a real one!, that was a hard one!"
  ..laid Nursebabe this way!
 -perform how I found dance group in Tokyo, first months and lost
  trains story {I couldnt read anything.. always took the wrong
    train, was always
 -perform ordering a pizza story
  {the hard time I had the first time I ordered a pizza in Japanese,
   'ijou' & the coupon!}
 -perform mystery's bear chasing him at camp story
 -perform mystery's breaking rope during rock climbing story
 -perform mystery's ant farm story


(D)EEPER -- Now lets get her to a deeper level: elicit deeper
emotions..make her access more deeply

-perform ghosts in the thai office story
 {did you know that in the Thailand office, there are supposed to
  be ghosts, and that already 10 people quit when seeing a ghost
  while working late at night!}
  -find out if she believes in ghosts/esp
-perform Craig's 4 questions game
  {1: white room (death)
   2: favorite color (self view)
   3: favorite animal (friends view of you)
   4: beach/sand/surf; how you feel/what do (passion/sex)
 -tell her my answers to the same questions
   {1: lonely
    2: yellow: noticable/gets attention
    3: bird: sees everything and can adventure far
    4: walk in the sand and wade in the water (some girls say
       they jump in!}
-you are on the beach, which is the strongest sensation for you,
 the sound of the ocean, seeing the blueness of it, and the sky,
 or feeling the sand and water on your feet (find out if she is
 auto/kino/visual".. tell her that is the piint of the quesiton
 after you perfom it, and then ask her if that is what she thinks
 (whichever she chose) [kino, audo, visual test..from here now
  you know how to direct the rest of your stories]

-PsychicBabe question:
   -start by lead into now my British friend who got played (HB Afro
    story used on Karatebabe)
    -leadin to above.. I was with my Brit friend at lunch today..
   -"Find out if she is kind of person that always wants to know
     complete truth or if it hurts, or you cant do anything about
     it, you don't want to know {point is to see how much she will
     question your other GFs}"
-perform HBSalsa's 3 questions game
   -pick 3 aniimals and why you like them;
    first animal really is how you want to be
    second animal is how people see you
    third animal is how you really are


(M)AN -- Now get her to know you are a man and can do a woman:
{tell stories of how you are around women, and what happens when
a woman gets near you (this fixes the problem I had with Ms.
Sparkles in that fuckup report on my webpage}

-perform 24yo nani nani and his first street kiss story
 (see ASF)
  -lead in, my friends friend last week we went to Roppongi
   because.. (then into naninani story)
-perform karatebabe PU on street story in Sao Paolo
  -lead in.. my own street PU..
?perform story about Mr. Smooth and how he & I many years ago
 did 5 KC's & 14 nums, he can KC every 20 minutes
 {only do this one if she is reacting well, as it might make her
  thing you are a playboy, so just watch her reaction before doing
  this}
-perform HB blitz attack me story during dance & how I felt
 {I was with HB ass, and HB blitz start grabbing me and wanting me.
  but I couldnt}
-perform HB blitz wants to see me night I meet a girl
 {I had a date with energizer at my place, 9pm, HB blitz calls
  at 6pm wants to see me/fuck.. I couldnt, otherone was coming so
  I had to throw her out..bummer.. she was a 10}
-perform energizer babe's kiss at the house story
  {meet her, get her to my place, close door, stare in eyes, and
   then 5 minutes of passionate kissing, strip & fuck right on the
   inside doorway of the house!..my most passionate first date}


(H)ENTAI -- Perform the wierd kinky stuff
-perform HB Charlotte story, how she is a closet bi-chick and
  likes girls/lead in to Alle TV story
 -lead in, I was talking to a good J-friend in the US last weekend
  {This is from "Ally my love" a US TV program..
   when that Asian chick confesses she is
   bi and then goes to a bar with Ally? and says "the best way to
   really excite a guy but frustate him at the same time is for them
   to see 2 girls really get into each other, and then they do, and
   then Ally? really wants to kiss the asian chick even though she
   isnt bi.. then she goes to her office the next day and asian
   chick says you wanted me, didnt you.. Ally? says yes, and then
   asian closes the door, gives her a fuck stare, and says, well
   you should find out, and then they tongue down... They also had
   a hilarous SM sequence... surprising how much US TV has changed
   since I left that country..
   -Ally My Love: this is a wonderful program (a rare treat from
    all the shit that is usually on US TV), and has lots of good
    stories that can be used in PU..get the videos..watch them!!
    and make stories "you know what I saw on TV last week?...}

-perform HB CHarlotte's friend wants married guys "she cant
 have" story {this is about HB Charlotte's friend who would only
 fuck married chicks because single guys were too easy, but a
 married guy she was not supposed to have, so that is why she
 wanted it..
-perform: "sometimes one lives at the fringes because it
    can be so attractive" from Ally my Love (from the bi-TV
    program above").. ask her about living at the 'fringes' and
    what that might mean to her}
   -move into performing HB ass doing lots of guys story
    {from HB vamp lay report.. HB ass was out fucking lots of
     guys for fun once last year.. some girls who do that..}
-perform TokyoPUA's 3p gyaku PU roppongi story
 {two chicks PU'd him in Roppongi and did a 3p}
-perform HB Charlotte's 'other BF from the office story' (do 1/2
 of Our World) {I have my BF, but when he is gone, I have my
 secret world, this other guy (see O.W. section on my website
 for OW script}
-perform hb blitz likes her BF because he PU'd in front of her and
 treated her like shit {see HB blitz on my website for this story}
-perform HB ass told me her ex put her in micro mini and how it
 made her feel when she went out {actually, I was the "ex bf"
 but dont say it was me in case it scares the chick..so I just say
 her ex bf, and if she reacts well, I know to do this later..}
-perform Soubetsukai story with me & trader & girls who say they
 cosplay & want to 3p {I went to a goodbye party at work, and these
 2 girls got drunk, and said how they SM their BFs an wear costumese
 and shit.. I ask one if she ever 3p'd (3people sex), she says
 'no... but I REALLY wanted to!"
-perform office conference, and when I say 'slap her' (she
 said something stupid) and the first girl says "I do all the
 time", and the 2nd girl wispers in my ear "and I really like it!"
 other girl
-perform HB ass/sex in the park story
-perform HB ass and the window strip hotel story and how she got
 hot when she saw the movie "Tokyo decadance" {you can get it in
 US artsie video shops}
?-perform HB Afro's subway game {exhibitionist}
 {see my website, control.htm file. Only use this if the chick is
  reacting well, as this may be too much for some women..}
?perform catwoman attack story
 {also on my website}


(O)UR WORLD -- Get her ready for what to expect when she sees you
next/tonight!:
-find out what would be her best way to meet someone
-tell her what is my way as best way to meet someone (this is lead in)
-perform Taro-san's 2nd half of OW story {see my website}


(S)EX ACCELERATORS -- move on to sexy stuff since stage is set from
above stories!:
-Craig's "ask any question" game, "like truth or dare, but no dare..,
cant
 ask same question asked to you until after 2 questions"
 -opener: how many BF's have you had?
 -mid1: ever kissed on first date?
 -mid2: ever had 1 nite stand?
 ?mid3: ever 3p?
  ..more various questions, getting deeper and deeper (see below)
 -did you ever palm read (do ONLY that the love line is deep, or other
SIMPLE
  BS (just one or 2 points to get the KC setup)
  ..getting physically closer, hand on her chin
 -closer: I have a good question for you... would you like to kiss me
 -reply after (how did it make you feel)
 -post closer, can we do another one?

-somewhere at end of date (but not fuck yet. ie. Granniebabe) if went
 far, like tonguedown or something, then say, wow, that was really
 fast, im surprised, are you always so quick...ie to pace her so she
 is not 'scared' to see you the next time.


This got you to the tongue down,now take her home!
If you need more stuff to say, here is extra filler stuff you
can use below!


MISC EXTRA STORIES IF YOU'RE STILL NOT THERE YET!
{the idea of all these stories and questions is that there are
types that cover ALL areas. So tell each one, and then see what
she reacts to the most/the least. Then you know what type of
chick you got, and then know what more stories you need to tell
her so you can fuck her.. below are the 'spare' stories I have
so far..

-get stuck?, refer to brit guy getting played story..HB Afro
-time HB Ass wore chou mini-police costume for haloween and got
asked by a subway customer to "arrest" & cuff him
-pattern/story to push her (ie. veiled threat), rather than just
 pull her like all these stories do.. (like "the door" pattern)
 {I havent designed this story yet, but I have to make one. In the
 meantime, use RJ's "the door" pattern, its on ASF someplace in the
 archives}
-Ms kinky like to be pinned on the ground when she was in elem.
 school, it felt good and how she turned out story..a kinky girl
-HB ass's rape fanatasy
-whoisthis's story on his chick who PU's other chicks with 'I want to
 fuck your friend' (see ASF, october 00)
-HB vamp who just wanted a casual relationship story (see my
 website, HB vamp layreport}
-story on how I find J-chicks attractive {US chicks act like men,
 they are strong, but no sexuality, no 'womanness')
*Personals chick who lost out because she didnt pay attention to me and
was
 surprised story {this is to scare the chick into acting.. I used this
 on karatebabe when I laid her.. this personals chick didnt pay
attention
 to me, so I blew her out and then she was surprisesd I did..she lost
her
 chance, cuz she rejected kino, my other advances, then she wrote back
 and wanted to see me again.. I blew her out) {just a story.. I would
have
 seen her, but this does scare the chick into acting, and letting you
 fuck her, because she thinks this will be the last time she sees you
 otherwise)
*how cultures are different.. the kiss in Sao Paolo nightclub story
 (see ASF archives.. I went to a club in S.P., and a chick grabbed me
 and started to tongue me down.. turns out in S.P., all the chicks do
this
 to all the guys}
*-women need attention/treated special same as guys need sex (HB ass
 disney revenge by sexing guys... she wanted disney cuz special)
 {somehow a girl wants to be feel she is 'special'..can be anything,
 her 'sweetness', her sexyness..something (anything) that distinguishes
 her from other girls
-Bossdude likes izakaya story {took my boss to a japanese bar (its
 near my place..this is the leadin to get chicks to this bar, so
 they are close to my place so I can fuck them)
-Salsa with the brazilian chick in Acaraje story
 -{I danced a sexy salsa with a brazilian chick and everyone stopped
  dancing in the bar to watch us!}
-Maniac & HB ass do the fetish party circuit
 {pics on mys' page}, this wild chick I used to (still) date
-Korea gyaku PU story. {I got Pu'd by a Korean chick in a department
 store when I was in Korea}
-whoisthis19's story about describing sex (in 00 oct ASF file)
 how its diff for a girl
-romance is woman's porn story {from ASF archives.. romance sells
 more than mens porn mags in the states.. romance is womans' porn}
-rocks & gold story (from ASF archives.. men want gold (sex), women
 want gold (relationships), both are valueable, but diamonds are
 worse than gold for a guy, and gold is worse than diamonds for a
 girl.. go on into how a girl playing a guy to LJBF for dinners is
 THE SAME as when a guy takes a girl just to fuck her and kick her
 out the next morning.. the same thing!}
-gyaku nanpa girl in the office.. what she is looking for/what she
 says story {describe what your idea of a horny girl is!!}
-never know who you meet (jetbabe, korea girl, sao paolo girl,mtl girl)
 {all met these girls by accident on trips and fucked/had fun with
  each of them}
-story on how not many guy pay attention to the woman during sex, to
 make her come..etc (link wih whoisthis19 above story somehow)
   -leadin: witches of eastwick and how he gets those girls and pays
    attention to them
-gyaku nanpa story in the convenience store
 {a girl tried to PU me in a convenience store.. but I was an
 AFC then, so fucked up a guaranteed lay}
-hb ass's story, so few guys know how to fuck a girl properly
 {HB ass says fucking a guy is easy for achick, but it is really
  hard to find a guy who can fuck her properly and make her come,
  and that she wants (till she met me!) a guy who can fuck her
  properly!
-story from HB ass on why slinkyblack liked that playboy..
  {slinkybabe is a chick who showed up with a loser french guy
   at a fuckparty we held. Slinkyblackbabe and HB ass got on well,
   and they went out to a bar another time and Slinkyblack went
   for a playboy type guy. Shwe knew he was playboy but liked him
   because everytime she came, he stopped talking to the other girls
   he was talking to at the time, and would pay attention to slinky
   black. This made her feel special. He hasnt fucked her yet, but
   slinkyblack says that the next time she sees him, she wants him
   to}
  -lead into how girl wants to feel special in front of others
-girl I fucked in train station (excitement, impulsive) story
-game: there is a T shape line, make 5 triangles {I will post it
 sometime}
 -somehow integrate after/before 'admiration section, something
 that shows that you want to fuck her because you feel she is
 special (see mrsex4u "Re: tidbit" in Nov 2000 for details. Also
 true for HB slinkyblack story}
  -maybe something like I met lots of girls but never been attracted
   to anyone so far (then when you move on her( target), she "thinks"
   she might be special)
-story, hb afro who liked pics and making porn vids {its true!}
-story; vp finance in college, made so much money! {we started
 a college business, and made alot of money.. for the goldigger
 chicks}
-hiphop chick girl I met at fura, she said she was always so busy,
 and never had time, so 'keep trying to call me'.. aways with so
 many friends. ..it made me jealousl so make a story like that about
 me too (even though that chick was UGLY, she made me jealous with
 her story!)
-make a story like tako-ocean story.. to elicit, sadness, loneliness,
 and then hapiness at the end (ie. same as mystery's admiration
 storys.. a dip, and then a jump in emotions) {stories that elicit
 emotion have a rise, then a dip, or visa versa, I will post the
 tako-ocean story sometime..it is a good one}
-perform ms kinky's 'oasis' story: life is always a fight/struggle,
 and relationship should be an oasis, from that, someplace to escape
 and be comfortable away from the daily stresses and fights of
 regular life in the world/work
-I woke up in dorm of girl @ college (crazy thing I did, response
 in question game)
-story about how its guy's job to pay attention to the girl, emotion
 conneciton/commucaiton at many levels, as many guys only pay attention
 themself, and not ther pleasure, safety and comfortableness
 of the lady.. it shoud be a celebration of connection between
 2 people (move into pieces of OW from here ?) like I am dancer so I
 know.. my ex gf told me about it, and how I am so that is
 most imporamt thing in relationship.. to please the woman. thats
 the mans job.
-story: important to me that woman only does what she is
 comfortable/safe and that she doesnt have to do anything she doesnt
 feel safe..just i want her to feel good time to talk, and feel
 emotional connection with me (do this before pitch to come to myplace
 and before you reach into her panties!)..from Ms. Kinky lay report
?massage story (how I learned massage in school)?
 {only do if the chick is reacting well.. this could be too overt
 otherwise.. so in that case, say it is 'your friend' who did the
 class')
-chicks who'll fuck on the nanpa videos, ever get a nanpa like
 that? would you do it? know friends who did? why you think chicks
 find it exciting
-know friend who did telephone clubs? why you think they do it?
 excitment? (they are phone meeting/ then meet to fuck clubs}
?time it was haloween and Mr. Lager & I ran into kinky party
 {mr. lager and I went to a techno party, and nextg door was this
  kinky fetish dress party, but we didnt know because it was
  haloween, so we went in, and realized the costumes were 'extra
  special'
-time I eye fucked HB Blitz in salsa, and then she went after me
-kiss on head first as opener (forehead), then go to regular kiss
 (say in club PU)
-breakup hb ass story (how we love, cry in starbuck, picture..etc),
 ie. make the chick cry by stelling some kind of really sad story
 -broke up (then made up) with HB ass, and she cried, but then
  we made up... it was so sweet ;-) }
-gyaku girl say I am 'h' (not sukekbe, which is bad), but 'h' which
 is good, ...my eyes maybe {only works in Japan}
-stry about having family kids someday with right girl
 {for the ones who want to get married!}
-HB gimmie story {a selfish bitch who I blew out early because I
 learned from HB hotpants the first time around.. same old shit,
 different chick..but she didnt get as far this time..see my website
 for details on HB hotpants}

QUESTIONS FOR THE QUESTION GAME:
-some girls like passion start and excitement, others like romance,
 which are you (for questions game?)
-have you given up on romance reln, and want casual, or still try
 romance only?
-how do you feel difference is bet guys and girls seeing
 relationship (leadin to rocks-gold)
-ques: if you had to choose between sex, or friendship only in a rel
 would you choose which, or are both imporant enough that youd get
 another guy?
-do you want friendship, sex, marriage, uncomplicated/no
 strings?
-Extra question from 4 questions: "Your walking along a road when you
 come to a wall blocking your way.  What do you do?"  The answer
 reveals how she deals with dillemas or obstacles in her life.
-tell me about your first kiss (then tell her my ideal first
 kiss)
-when is the first time you kissed anyone and really
 liked it (then tell mine story) [then make out after she is done!]
-(when you broke up last bf, then, when was last time
 you kissed guy?)
-when was last bf (so you know how much there's to do)
-what clothes style you like for guy (do during pu so you know what to
 wear during 1st meeting)
-question, where is most exciting place you had exciting time with
 your BF
-question, where would you like most exciting time with your bf
 to be?/how (rooftop..etc?)
-did you ever kiss on first date?
-did you ever sleep with the guy on the first date?
     -describe how it happened
-sm? vibrator? 3p? (questions)


?Outstanding todo: must find a way to see right at the top if
a chick is into me right now for the fuck, and I can skip all of
the above steps.. havent figured out yet how to do this..

Re: using SS in this "Have you ever had an incredible connection...blah
blah" can work,
but not all at once.. intersperce it between the stories in light
amounts
and I find it works well. Doing just straight SS I find either loses
the chick, or she thinks you are wierd. With the stories, it all works
FAR more naturally.. D.Shade and Bishop seem to do it this way as well,
and it is effective.

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-->OK, that is it, this is all I have so far. This is for AFTER
I did the original PU. This is my first attempt at structuring this
as I have never seen anything organized like this before from
start to end anywhere, so here is one.

I am looking for any constructive comments on how I can
make this better, or ideas other people have. Hopefully it
made sense even though it is so fucking long.

Naninani can use this as a template when he talks to girls,
so not he should never worry about "never anything to say"
again. Memorize B-BVGA-DMHOS (the headers of the sections)
and the stories, and it takes around 2-4 hours depending how
fast you can get the girl going, to finish the PU and tongue
down/take her home.

This works best in coffeeshop type PU settings.
No idea how it works in bars (probably not well, too loud, and
takes too long), never tried it there.

Now I am looking for TokyoPUA to make one of these for
his street PUs, and whoisthis19 to make one for his 3p
PUs, and others to make regular PU structures, if they have
any ideas (for me at least, having a clear structure like this
makes a HUGE difference for me in PU, or I just stall. Since
I have been doing this, I have never stalled in the post
'Find-Meet' situation.

Constructive ideas/comments/criticisms appreciated!

Maniac High
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Le guide de séduction de base de Maniac High (French translated version)

Here it is virgins and newbies, the guide you won't find any where else! Maniac High?s one
page crib notes on how to catch, seduce and lay a chick for the guy that doesn?t know
how!

NOTICE; THIS STUFF WORKS! YOU ABSOLVE ME OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR
WHAT MAY HAPPEN IF YOU FOLLOW THIS. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! IT IS
EXPERIMENTAL! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK ONLY!

Note, this is a very condensed summary. Although this will get you started, there is far
far more to learn besides what's in this file to be successful ... To learn more
details, look at Maniac's website (http://www.pickupguide.com), its free, or read USENET
alt.seduction.fast to get really good at this shit..

So, with no further ado, here is what you gotta do to lay a chick, in a bunch of clear easy
steps!

First, the summary: Basically, the steps are:
-Do the pickup
-Get her alone
-Get her feeling secure
-Get her laughing
-Get her imagination going and horny
-Pour on the kino (physical contact)
-Kiss and then fuck her

So here we go, the step by step guide!

A)The pickup, First meeting the chick and making an impression
-Speak with good tonality, clearly, and deeply whenever you talk to a woman.
-Make good eye contact.
-Get Eye contact, maybe a smile then approach her, slowly, and compliment her
(if she?s not so pretty, and if she is DO NOT compliment her on her
appearance) / introduce yourself.
-[Another way that works, if you are with a wingman (a guy friend also with
you), is to talk about the chick (fuck, that skirt is short), a bit loudly,
to your wingman, but so the chick can hear. She will then look at you, and
then continue as if you just introduced yourself.
-Talk a little more (do you live near here/work near here..blah blah). Use
some humor and jokes...you want to get her smiling / laughing or anything
else after this step wont work (VERY IMPORTANT!)
-Ask her for going to coffee right there, to continue talking.
-If she's busy, get her phone number (if she asks for yours instead, insist
or tell her to forget it (joke that you never give your number to a girl,
because "you wont call..will you, you will just show it to all your friends,
giggle and then throw it away...won't you ;-)".. at this point she should
give you hers (or at least trade). If not, forget it, as she will not call
you anyways, so just leave.
-If you give her yours, then you've supplicated to her, you've let her take
control. (women dont like guys they can control..its boring, and its not
fun/exciting for them, even if they dont admit it openly).

B)
-You meet her someplace (near your house so you can get her over later
that night) later when she is not with her friends, either right away,
or you called her and invited her "to coffee (or a drink) around 8pm after
your supper business meeting/class" (why spend money on supper for her
now? What has she done for YOU? so far..NOTHING!), and also, supper is boring
for most chicks, skip it till AFTER you have fucked her). Also, if its going
bad, you can blow her out after 15/20 minutes (and make her pay her drink).
For supper, this is harder to do, and you are stuck with her for 1 hr while
you wait for all the food and bullshit..
-As soon as you meet her, hug her (and try to) kiss her ASAP if you
can (like in the first 5 seconds). If she doesn't look like she will go
for a kiss, give a big smile, hug her, and gesture her to kiss your cheek
with your finger. This gets you started, and will set the tone for the
rest of the evening.
-Choose a place you can sit next to the chick (not facing, with a table
between you). If you are next to her, you can get close to her, and start
kino (touching), but with a table between, you cant.
-The goal of this date (at minimum), is to get her laughing/smiling/start
massive amounts of kino, get her to accept holding her hand, and a tongue
down at the end of the evening. If its going really well, get her over right
then, or save that for the next time when you invite her to make supper with
you at your place.
-So, now, at the first evening at the coffee shop/beer place. Talk about her
work, her dreams, find out her core values, what is important to her, and try
to link to that.
-Learn to tell stories, this gets her imagination going, talk about things
like adventure, her ideal relationship (see if she wants a relationship,
or just sex...you can tell by her reaction), the feelings that brings out
inside her when she meets someone new, suddenly, and how magical that
is..blah blah blah.. If she is not the "relationship" kind of chick, then
talk about "friendship", and how it is so wonderful to be friends (see
my Mr. Smooth post, on my page).
-Keep good eye contact, watch for her lean words, and use those in your
conversation..
-Use jokes, be funny, to get her thinking in an intimate mood ("Ie; I bet
when you dress like that, you get attention of all the guys...blah blah).
-Ask her about her previous BFs.
-While you are doing all this, often (when you laugh..etc), touch her side
waist, or shoulder, or back with your hand, firmly.. (dont do the hands or
hips yet, unless she starts to initiate/get in closer, or starts touching
your shoulder/waist sometimes). This is authoritarian, and she will respect
this, and your authority. Do this OFTEN.
-Talk some more, tell more stories (I tell a story about "My friend, who
is a playgirl, and tries to sleep with married men.. Can you believe that..
I mean, did you ever do like her.. ie Have you ever had a 1 night stand...
blah blah".
-Then I move on to the story of my drunk chick co-workers, who at a dinner
party, we asked if they ever did a 3p (3 person) sex, and one raised her
hand. Then I asked how many wanted to, and ALL raised their hands! And then
got each to tell us all the stuff they did with their BFs (costume play,
SM..etc).. Did you ever have any BF's like this?".
-Judge her reactions to the above story, this will tell you what she might/
might not be interested in.
-She may ask you about old GFs, so tell her some good stories (if you
dont have any, use the ones from lay reports on my web page)..
-Every time you laugh, or say something, put your hand on her shoulder, or
waist, or thigh, gently, but authoritively..get the kino going.
-Talk about "do you know that more romance novels are sold in the US than
porno mags for men? One of my friends said that romance novels is basically
woman's pornography.. you know, like when the woman meets the ideal guy..."
t..and suddenly they 'clicked right there' blah blah blah and she couldn't
believe how close she was getting to him..blah blah..)
-Find out about old BF's, what she liked/didn't like. And when she mentions
a feeling, elaborate on it (the good feelings and how you like them, and the
bad ones; how you hate it when that happens, and how to feel YYY (good
feeling) is much better..
-Ask, "how do you know you are getting into a special relationship, or
someone has become your boyfriend" (and then do /talk about
those steps), get her visualizing that ideal relationship/time with a guy..
-finish drinking.
-As you are doing this talking, touch her shoulder when she is saying her
answers, or her leg (she is sitting next to you, so should be easy), start
even more kino.
-Do a 'hand reading', or comment how her skin is soft, and kid how she never
does the dishes or something like that.
-Also, ask her what kinds of dishes she likes to cook (this is the setup for
the next date, at your place, in case she doesn't come over to fuck you
tonight right after the drinks).
-After that, remark, how another time, we can make that dish together
(kiddingly).
-Dont be too gentleman during this evening..treat her as a 'friend' with your
tonality, but be kino. Ie. you are the prize, and she is NOT.
-Wrap up the drinks. Make her pay her own if you can (ie. if she offers her
part..let her..fuck this gentleman shit, it is supplication, you just went
casually for drinks, friend to friend not on a real date..).
-If it is going really well, ask her over to appreciate your potted
plants/record collection/gourmet coffee/wine..etc.
-If its not ready yet, go to step "C"

C)Ground work...get her ready to fuck.
-Maniac has found that GROUNDWORK is real important (ie. kissing/feeling up
the chick before getting her to your place). If you don't do this, she often
freezes up and freaks out when she gets to your place. Getting to your place
is a REWARD for her letting you kiss her and feel her up.
-After, go for a short walk. When you get outside, offer her your arm a-la
french style, to escort the lady ( more physical action..she gets to feel
your touch more!).
If you did the above talking right in the restaurant, she will be comfortable
with this and take your arm. If she doesn't, then you got a wierdo, or a
paranoid, and you wont get far with her..make it an early night and get rid
of her.
-Try to take her hand (maybe stop at a window of a shop or something and
look at something with her, then when you continue, take her hand). Rub her
hand a bit as you walk too. See if she reciprocates (if she does, it is kiss
time)..
-Go to a safe, but not crowded area, (park/bench on the street), and look at
her eyes, still holding her hand(s), and just say "do you want to kiss me".
Anything but a clear direct NO you say, and move in and kiss her..
-If that doesn't look like it will work, say "okay, lets see", and then
kiss her. Make it short, and end the kiss first, then say "wow, that was
very good, one more..", and go in for more. First soft on the lips, then
later, tongue action, if she starts to open her mouth as you kiss.
-If this is going well, and you can touch her here and there as kissing is
happening, then you want to get her back ASAP [Step "E"].
-If not, goto Step "D" below.

D)Continue the nice walk at night in town, she should be used to just
grabbing your arm by now for walking if you did this right. If she does
it spontaneously, then you just gently, but intentionally take her hand.
-Walk/talk/ tell more stories to get her visualizing..
-At some point, go to the bathroom or something, so you break her hand
contact.
-When you come back, she should reach back for your hand now if you did all
this right so far. If not, then you need to tell more stories and make her
visualize some more about love/attraction/relationships/excitement blah blah.
-If its going really well, you can try to kiss her in the park, while telling
her some story about sudden romance, and asking her what kind of person she
is. The answer will tell you if you can kiss her or not.
-If you cant kiss her now, then there is another chance later you should
take when you say goodbye that evening, if you don't get to fuck her that
night.
-Walk some more, and escort her back (to the trainstation/car..whatever).
-Give her a slow kiss if she kissed you before, and if not, give her a quick
one on the lips and say thank you, it was a pleasure to meet you and spend
time tonight (if it really was).
-If she looks ready to come over to your place to fuck, tell her that you
have some pictures/art/music/gourmet coffee/spaghetti you'd like to share
with her, and if she'd like to come. She will likely say "no" the first time,
so be persistant and insist (spend 5 minutes at this before giving up).

-Note though, that lots of girls don't want to fuck the first day, and may
give you trouble with this. So if it doesn't look like she is willing to
come over TONIGHT, just end the evening for now.
-ANother power move is to just say "lets go", and dont tell her where you
are going. Then when (if) she asks, tell her you are taking her over so you
can spend more time together, hugging and being closer.
-Then, Dont talk about the next date. Its better to make her think she did
something wrong, or wonder.
-If things are going really well though, either ask her over RIGHT THEN, to
see your drawings, or to play piano, or whatever, or make a date for
TOMORROW, at your place.
-If things went just okay, dont worry, just you need more work. Call her in a
day or two, and tell her how it would be great if we met again. Make the
meeting..which is as follows..
-If you could kiss her in the park, then invite her over for lunch/supper.
If not, then do another drink date, 8pm and pour on the initial hug, kino..
etc.. and try again to kiss her some point in the night, more than a quickie
kiss and get her over ASAP (she should, since she DID agree to see you again)..

E)She is coming over:
-When you meet her, give her a hug right away, and take her hand, try to kiss
her if you can (settle for the cheek if you have to).
-This is important, and will set the tone for the entire rest of the evening.
You MUST do this as soon as you meet her.
-After that take her hand/arm, and all that over again from the beginning,
because chicks often lose that romantic state from the last time they saw you,
till then. You can get through it all pretty fast, tell more stories, move to
holding hands..blah blah, and try to kiss her more (before you get to the
house if you can, so she doesn't feel threatened, but somehow she is reminded
whats coming). It may seem strange, but you have to start over at the
beginning, and run through this all over again (usually) to get all the
feelings going to where you left off the last time you saw her if it has been
a few days..
-When you get her over, try to kiss her (just say "do you want to kiss me,
or say "I want to kiss you"..if resistance, then just a "short one") and
get physical (gently) as soon as she gets in the place. If she is resisting,
or is not in the "right mood", then do the supper/order pizza first, and
save the fuck till after..
-Have a nice supper, (possibly with romantic candles and soft music...or
order that pizza, and watch a movie in the living room (again, you'll be next
to her, so you can do kino). If you make supper, eat it in the living room
with the movie too, so you can do kino. The dinner table sucks, you cant
touch her there, so forget that..
-After/during supper, kiss more, and do gentle kino.. a long kiss ..
-To start the kiss, just look in her eyes, and ask her if she is a romantic
person, or "do you want to kiss me" (thanks Mystery for that tip!). After
she says yes (if she doesn?t, you have a problem, go back up a few steps on
the list/tell more stories), say nothing, and give her a light kiss on the
lips, and then more longer/deeper kisses.
-Ok, now you are at first base, now, lets get to the fuck..

F)How to get the physical stuff going so you can fuck her..
- DO NOT TALK AT ALL FROM NOW ON, TILL AFTER YOU FUCK HER!
-Kiss her french for a short bit (like 30 seconds).
-Then move your lips to kiss her on the neck, ears, let your hands wander, to
her breasts..etc, over her clothes. as you kiss her.
-If that goes okay, keep going, kiss her neck, and front of neck, and then
back to the ear.
-If it doesn't go okay, try more gentle kissing, and teasing, be funny, not
nervous., ie. back up a couple steps and then continue. It make take you 4 or
5 "backup and retries to get past this.."
-Chicks ears are really sensitive, as you are kissing the ear and licking it,
raise her shirt/bra, kiss her on her shoulders, around her breasts, just a
tap, and move somewhere else with your lips, and then move back now and then,
kissing more and more her breasts.. she should start to get very excited..
-[sometimes, right around here, she will freeze up and say "do you really
like me..are you playing me..blah blah... ". This is the last of the
barriers to come down. Tell her how your life changed since you met her, and
how strangely, you just felt so at ease, comfortable and close since you
met her and how it was so special in some strange way, which is why you
felt you had to see her again"... then continue kissing..]
-finally reach to her nipples, a quick kiss/maybe a small bite, then move
elsewhere, keeping your rhythm and mood to the music/situation. Do not talk..
-Move your lips back to her neck, and carress her breasts and chest gently
with your hands, then move back there to kiss it again, putting your hand
elsewhere on her body.
-Keep kissing her on her neck/lips/breasts/nipples, and your hands wander all
over her body, let one pass over her crotch and see how see reacts (a little
resistance is fine/normal...just ignore it).
-Start to stimulate her crotch with your hand over her pants/skirt.
-Go again with your hand, get inside her pants, and start to stimulate her,
gently/softly
-She should get very very excited at this point if up to now you did it right.
-At that point, pull off her pants (dont ask her, just do it, from the time
you kissed her neck, you should not talk at all, just do, let her mind only
listen to the music, and see you on her, and the candle light).
-Don?t ask to touch her/fuck her, just do, or at most just tell her you want
her.. or "lets feel each other closer more directly"..etc.
-watch her reaction..some resistance is okay, but if she has an angry look on
her face, and is really putting up a fuss, then back up one or two steps on
this list, and then resume going down the list after a couple minutes. Repeat
as necessary. If she really doesn?t like it, she will get away from you (and
if that happens, THROW HER OUT!, you got a FREAK!).
-Also, absolutely ignore anything she says. She will probably say she doesnt
want to fuck you now, and other blah blah. Ignore it absolutely. Watch her
body language only. It won?t lie, but her words probably will. In spite of
what all the femenazi?s say, girls really like to be "taken", and want to
feel they "didn?t have a choice".
-Kiss her crotch, as well as everywhere else, be gentle, learn what she
likes/doesn't like in the way you touch/kiss her...every girl is different
and unique so find out right away what that is.
-Once you know what that is, keep working on her with your hands and lips
until she gets really crazy
-Stimulate her crotch with your fingers, and work her there till she goes
totally nuts, move your lips up to her neck/ear, kiss her, your hands on her
breasts, and put your condom on (which you already had ready nearby).
-Keep going with the kissing on the neck and hands on the breasts/crotch.
-Put your dick in, and drill her till you/she comes. It is easy at this point.

G)Various notes..
-See how good she is at that (though some girls are better the 2nd/3rd time),
so sleep with her a couple more times.
-At that point, you are now ready to decide what kind of relationship who
want with her, if any, and you can develop that too
-Warning, DO NOT try and develop a relationship with a girl before you
sleep with her. Because, then your head gets all messed up, when they decide
they like that relationship they already got, and don't want to risk ruining
it by having sex.
-SO you get the sex first, so there is no risk of that problem, and THEN (AND
ONLY THEN), do you think about a relationship or not, with that woman.

Anyways, if you are very good in bed (which you will be if you always pay
attention to the girl real carefully and what she really wants (and not what
she says she wants, which is almost always the opposite), the girl will
always want the relationship, so then you get to choose whether you want a
relationship with her, or not, or if you just want to see her a few more
times for sex and then get rid of her if she is not your type;or you dont
get along with her personally...

-You see girls want a dream. You give her that dream, and let her live
it...and she is yours...

---and that, is how its done..

Some important rules:

THE GUY HAS TO DO EVERYTHING!! HE HAS TO MAKE ALL THE MOVES!!!
THE WOMAN (unless she is ugly, or desperate) RARELY WILL!! SO EVEN IF SHE
LIKES YOU, AND YOU DONT MAKE MOVES, SHE WILL THINK YOU ARE NOT
INTERESTED..AND GET RID OF YOU!!!!, OR WORSE, JUST WANT TO BE YOUR
FRIEND!!! AND YOU BECOME HER DOORMAT!!!
THEN SHE WILL THEN NEVER BECOME YOUR GIRLFRIEND...EVER!!!!
CHICKS WANT TO BE MADE TO FEEL THAT THEY "DIDNT HAVE A CHOICE"..
(ie. so they dont have to worry about the "slut" factor...)

AND THE OTHER IS:
FIRST SEX, AND THEN (MAYBE) A RELATIONSHIP...and never NEVER NEVER
EVER THE OTHER WAY AROUND!! IF YOU EVER GIVE A GIRL A
RELATIONSHIP/FRIENDSHIP BEFORE YOU MAKE HER GIVE YOU SEX, YOU
WILL NEVER GET ANY!!! SHE WILL JUST WALK ALL OVER YOU!! TELLING
YOU ABOUT ALL HER PROBLEMS, NOT WANTING TO RUIN HER
"RELATIONSHIP" WITH YOU BY HAVING SEX!!! .. WHILE SHE MAKES
SOMEONE ELSE HER REAL BOYFRIEND!!! WELL...SCREW THAT...!!

If you are too concerned about girl's feelings, and never think about your own you won?t
be successful with women, and they will always just want to be your friend. Rather, you
have to worry about what you want, and if they can live with that, they can go out with
you.

Learn, enjoy, and give happiness to a lady out there!

Peace;

Maniac High (email address is at my website below)

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(snip)> Now, the downside.. there must have been a way to be able to lay> this chick, and that, I didn't figure out in this case. Now granted Buy Modalert No Prescription, > you cannot lay them all, but still, it is good to learn from the> failures.>> Opinions anyone on this. Obviously she fucks (I asked her how> many BFs she had had, and she wouldn't tell me, but I think it was> a lot from what other things she told me), order Modalert from mexican pharmacy. I could not get this chick> to open up at all, no eye contact, no smiling.. nothing, no matter> what I tried.

Actually, I didn't notice anything in your post describing anything that you"tried". What did you do other than kino.
>> She said she likes Roppongi, and dancing., Buy Modalert No Prescription. but this could be a very> big supplication opportunity if I go there with her (she will expect> me to pay probably, and then whether I do (or don't) I am sure she> will blow me out, and try to get as much attention from as many> guys as she can.. her way it seems..>> What could have been done better. Modalert pharmacy, Or was the only rational thing> to do was early detection and bail, which I did..

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From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastDate: 02 Jan 2001 18:58:14 GMTSubject: Re: Chick Bullshit Report. Blowing out JulianaBitch, Buy Modalert No Prescription.

In article <92l4tg$hl9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, maniac_high@yahoo.com writes:>Chick Bullshit Report. Blowing out JulianaBitch!>001202>Here's the story.>Firstly, I show up to the meeting place and no bitch. So I start to go>home, and she calls me and says is it ok if she meets another day>like next weekend. I tell her I am busy, so some other time when>we are less busy. (I think she usually expects guys to rearrange all Buy Modalert No Prescription, >their schedules, just because she is cute (which admittedly she is.. a>9 I figure, a 10 if I would have met her at 21YO).>>I tell her I am going to 'Akahabara' (a part of Tokyo with lots of>electronics shops and geeks, online buy Modalert without a prescription, as I am buying a new Sony Vaio>before going on holidays. If she wants to meet me, she can meet>me there and hang out with me while I buy a PC, because I am not>going to wait for her to take an hour to get to where she was>supposed to before..

good idea here. SHE was supposed to be there. she was not. you moved on andspent your time wisely instead of HOPING that she would show up and give you ALITTLE of her time, Buy Modalert No Prescription. NOW she has to floow YOUR rules or not see you at all.
nice.
>She says OK, and eventually shows up. I am in the middle of>getting my PC, Modalert from canadian pharmacy, so I go get her, and go for coffee with her.

THIS I would NOT have done. Buy Modalert No Prescription, her "date" was contingent upon her showing upAPPROXIMATELY when you told her to in the place you told her to meet you. shedid NOT have a good excuse, so you BLEW OFF the date with her and went shoppingfor yourself (an additional dis because you are spending money you MIGHT havespent on her, as far as she knows). when she comes to join you, you haveeffectively one-and-done'd her. you give that power away by falling back into"date" mode. even with my MLTR, I had to wait for her a couple of times andlet her know that I was going to wait for her from now on for a REASONABLEamount of time, considering train delays and such. after that time, she shouldASSUME I went on with whatever I was planning to do WITHOUT HER, Buy Modalert No Prescription. if what wewere going to do is something I was going to do anyway and she is taggingalong, then she can find me there, australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, most likely. if I was going to do somethingelse if she didn't show, she knows that too and can try to find me by callingme on my cel phone... IF I decide to pick it up and talk (I may be talking toanother chick by that time :-). by going for coffee with this chick, you STILLINTERRUPTED what YOU wanted to do to socialize with her. Buy Modalert No Prescription, I say that once shegets blown out for a date, ALL benefits disappear and she is playing COMPLETELYby your rules or not at all. I would have shopped for my PC and done ANYTHINGELSE I wanted to do and then any EXTRA time would have been spent on her...
ASSUMING she was still there and hadn't left feeling angry that she came allthat way to watch me shop :) NEXT.
>She is>absolutely uninteresing, (next question, how do you PU a cute, Modalert samples, but>dumb chick)

dummies are tough. if she is a listener, talk. if she is a talker, listen, Buy Modalert No Prescription.
the more you interact with different bitches, the more styles you will have fordealing with them. I met one a while back that is COMPLETELY ERRATIC with herspeech patterns. she jumps from topic to topic ILLOGICALLY, even for a chick.
the first time I encountered her, she defeated me because I couldn't find a wayto talk to her efficiently, she would ALWAYS go off on her own tangent. Buy Modalert No Prescription, Ifinally talked to her for hours and hours and learned how to take pot-shots ather random sentences. doing that, I would eventually hit something that madeher EMOTIONAL, buy Modalert online no prescription, and then she would stop and remain on that topic and I could usemy speech effectively for a while PLUS get to know the things that will slowher down whenever I want to... like a tranquilizer :)>After we talk for a bit, I bring her back to the shop,>where I continue to buy my PC. I finish that (takes like 45>minutes..

you should have thrown that extra 45 minutes in her face for not showing up ontime... THEN gone for coffee with her, Buy Modalert No Prescription.
>she asks if she can go downstairs and see I-mode>cellphone, I say fine, see you later), later she comes back, and I am>about done.>>Now the bullshit starts.. Purchase Modalert online, she starts telling me about how she likes>guys who treat her first (ie. Buy her lots of shit). I also notice that>eye contact is shit, and she doesn't smile much, and kino is shit.

ask her how many guys she knows like this. Buy Modalert No Prescription, ask her why she isn't sitting withthem right now instead of you. indirectly relate what she does to prostitutionand what they do to BUYING sex because they can't get it on the merits of theirlooks or personalities.
>I decide to bail, and go home with my new PC, and she starts>complaining about how expensive her subway ticket is to go home.>Now Maniac remembers this bullshit from HB Hotpants (thanks>MrSex for that great followup report), and I do exactly what he>suggested, and I do not buy her her subway ticket (figuring that>anyways, she will blow me out and never see me again anyways).>She remarks 5 TIMES how her ticket is expensive, and I just say>'ganbatte' (go for it).>>Then get this, online buying Modalert, she pulls out a 'Luis Vuitton' purse (around $500)>and buys her ticket. Now she is visibly pissed that she couldn't>play me and get me to supplicate to her and shit. She leaves, I>leave.

see what I told you. if a bitch doesn't have money to pay for herself, she isPATHETIC and I don't want to be around her, Buy Modalert No Prescription. I make money for ME, not her. shehas to pay RENT, right. if I don't give her rent money, is she going to gohomeless. if she DOES have money and asks you for it anyway, Buy Modalert no prescription, she is aPARASITE... Buy Modalert No Prescription, and I don't want to deal with her in that case either. bitchesshould be ASHAMED to BEG guys for shit. ESPECIALLY in ASIAN society. nexttime she asks you for something, make her DISHONOR herself to get it. tell herto get on her knees and beg loud enough so that EVERYONE in the area can seeher begging you for train fare... if she is retarded enough to do that,let herbeg for a couple of minutes straight.., Buy Modalert No Prescription. then tell her NO. hahahahaha :)>Now, the bright side of this, is I didn't waste any time (except the>initial time to get to the first meetingplace, but that was on the way>to Akihabara anyways, so no big deal), did not waste any money, buy generic Modalert,>and recognized by body language, that this chick was NOT into>me, and just wanted to play me to supplicate to her, and then she>threw her tittie tantrum when I didn't. At least I could recognize>that, and bail early..

isn't that interesting... the female version of what guys do. Buy Modalert No Prescription, guys are not"interested" in females as people, but want to fuck them so they PRETEND to beinterested. this chick PRETENDED to be interested in "dating" you so she couldget stuff from you.
>Now, the downside.. there must have been a way to be able to lay>this chick, Modalert for sale, and that, I didn't figure out in this case. Now granted>you cannot lay them all, but still, it is good to learn from the>failures.>>Opinions anyone on this. Obviously she fucks (I asked her how>many BFs she had had, and she wouldn't tell me, but I think it was>a lot from what other things she told me), Buy Modalert No Prescription. I could not get this chick>to open up at all, no eye contact, no smiling.. nothing, no matter>what I tried.

the same way you get OTHER bitches to fuck. find out what moves her into asexy state and focus on that. you NEVER found out what makes her horny, WHOmakes her horny, Modalert over the counter, what she likes sexually... Buy Modalert No Prescription, you don't know ANYTHING about thischick that would allow you to seduce her by anything but LUCK. all you foundout is that she "likes" guys that buy her stuff. does she like FAT guys thatbuy her stuff. ugly guys that buy her stuff. what does she DO for the guysthat she "likes" because they buy her stuff. you have NO information, Buy Modalert No Prescription.
>She said she likes Roppongi, and dancing.. but this could be a very>big supplication opportunity if I go there with her (she will expect>me to pay probably, and then whether I do (or don't) I am sure she>will blow me out, and try to get as much attention from as many>guys as she can.. her way it seems..

if you want to go somewhere with her, Where can i buy cheapest Modalert online, let her know that you do NOT pay forbitches to do ANYTHING unless she is YOUR BITCH, meaning she does this thisthis this for you. PERIOD. Buy Modalert No Prescription, if she doesn't want to give up the goods, sheKNOWS you are not paying ANYTHING for her. this is the BASIC pivot, where shehad the opportunity to be on a higher level and DECLINED that op, so now, shehas been demoted and she knows WHY and what she has to do to get on a higherlevel with you.
>What could have been done better. Or was the only rational thing>to do was early detection and bail, which I did..

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>[addendum.. it was 3 weeks ago I wrote this (couldnt post, purchase Modalert online no prescription, deja>was fucked up.. since then I talked to the chick, and she,>without any prompting, 'apologized' for being so 'tired and>acting selfish' last time, and would like to meet me again>and she said she would behave better... imagine that ;-)>We shall see... Maniac] Buy Modalert No Prescription, one and done pleaseone and done

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> > Don't you think this will sound a little to much like prostitution and turn> her off. IME, telling chix OUTRIGHT without 'frosting' what the parameters> for a relationship are going to be, has backfired and they have gotten> pissed and bailed, Buy Modalert No Prescription. Although, if you treat it like a Pavlovian reward based> deal, it is all good. But that does ME no good if I have not already gotten> the lay. I can't (Step B), take her to a nice dinner and night out, because> I haven't got to Step A yet, the PUSSY. How can this be made clear to chix,> not to expect to come over and get all sorts of dates and attention, without> giving it up first?

You screen them. Buy Modalert No Prescription, First of all, get them to buy into the idea that youcan rock their world sexually like nobody else ever has. Then, buy no prescription Modalert online, tell themthe rocks for gold story that Maniac posted last week. If she buys intoit, she knows where you stand and she knows what she has to do. If shedoesn't buy into it, you're not getting any anyway, so NEXT.

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From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastDate: 07 Jan 2001 06:56:22 GMTSubject: Re: Chick Bullshit Report. Blowing out JulianaBitch.
>tell her some stories about this>guy you know who does extremely well with women. He sexually satisfies>them like nobody else ever has satisfied in their entire lives. But he>won't spend a dime on a women unless he's sexing her, Buy Modalert No Prescription. His name. Well,>let's just call him MrSex4u, and make some shit up.

HAH. that shit'll NEVER go over ;)>if she's stupid enough to piss away her>chance, you'll simply find someone else who's smart enough to take the>opportunity you provide. Order Modalert online c.o.d, You'll be fucking smartchick's brains out>instead, and you simply won't have time for dumbchick.

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the thing that makes her give a fuck is that she will KNOW you are gettingsexually satisfied ALL THE TIME and that you are doing the same for your chick(which COULD have been her). MEANWHILE, she is getting NO SEX or tops ONSbecause the same thing that caused her NOT to take you up on your offer whenyou were available (for that short period of time) will cause her toincorrectly assess and pass up OTHER quality guys, until she gives in and looksfor your number... that you never gave her :)

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From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastDate: 08 Jan 2001 15:27:29 GMTSubject: Re: Chick Bullshit Report. Buy Modalert No Prescription, Blowing out JulianaBitch.
>MrSex4uNYC wrote:>> >> >tell her some stories about this>> >guy you know who does extremely well with women. He sexually satisfies>> >them like nobody else ever has satisfied in their entire lives. But he>> >won't spend a dime on a women unless he's sexing her. His name. Well,>> >let's just call him MrSex4u, and make some shit up.>> >> HAH, Buy Modalert No Prescription. that shit'll NEVER go over ;)>> >>LOL. You know, I thought I'd never say this. You're being too modest>MrSex. How about telling her stories about a guy who sexually satisfies>women the way they've always longed for and dreamed about, but had never>experienced before. And that he only spends money on women who sex him>in return? Buy Modalert No Prescription, sounds like a DOUBLE-WIN for the chick!!!!. :)

she gets HOT SEX from the guy AND gets taken out and he spends money on her.
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After that I thought what I could do better in such asituation., where can i buy Ultram online. Ultram pharmacy, Then I came up with the '3 no's rule'. Buy Ultram No Prescription, When a chick is freezing up (and is looking like freak-outmaterial), one thing I found can work is to stop allphysical contact, and start story telling, and qualifyingher feelings. Stories about romance, order Ultram, Where can i buy cheapest Ultram online, security, and allthat, online buy Ultram without a prescription, Buy Ultram in canada, with normal '1st date' start level kino.
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On the other hand, a worse thing would have been to endurethe whole video and her frigidness. Doing that would have gottenme an 'F' score. Buy Ultram No Prescription, Better was immediate ejection, which is OKbut not the whole effort above, so that rates a 'C'. I feel Icould have gotten an 'A' (lay) or 'B' (good try though no lay)score, if I had done the above with her. The j-nanpa videos alsodo it this way if the chicks freeze up when arriving atthe guys place they wear her down by talking and stories ofgood feelings and all that shit, and then go for it. That seemsto work some of the time, though admittedly, this is damagecontrol territory.

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I met hockeybabe at a party about 1 month ago, Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, and got herto my place after we both got rather drunk (it wasnt anintentional PU, or I wouldnt have drank, but things justturned out that way. I failed to lay her then too, lotsof playing/petting/sucking tits, order Viagra online c.o.d, but she was REALLY resistantto a fuck. I didn't push it with her too much once I sawthat she really didnt want this). Buy Viagra No Prescription, I met her again at another party, which ended (just before lasttrain on a weeknight, so fuck not possible) with a big tonguedownagain, and lots of feeling up.

She asked me to see a movie (I was too busy with Psychicbabe, Viagra for sale, so I hadnt asked her out on a straight Izakaya casual eveninglike I do with all my targets (fuckup #1), so I went to the movie.

I was extremely tired (was with Psychicbabe night before till toofucking late, and then had to go to work the next morning). Inoticed if I am very sleepy, where can i find Viagra online, I cannot get my emotional/passionstory routines working at all.. just nothing came to my headexcept that I want to go to sleep. That was fuckup #2, Buy Viagra No Prescription. Get agood rest before d-day to lay a chick. Buy Viagra online cod, Another thing I did (also out of tiredness I think) was send hera "thinking of you" e-Xmas card. In retrospect, this was totallyAFC. Never treat a chick special, or let her think that she hascaptured you until AFTER you have fucked her...it is ok to lether think she CAN capture you (with glances to her and a smile, Viagra samples,etc) though, until AFTER the fuck happens. Buy Viagra No Prescription, This fuckup, in hereyes, probably reduced her impression of me massively. Fuckup #3. Buy Viagra without a prescription, Now, fast forward to last night.

In short what happened (using my new left brain(logic), right brain(passion/sex) paradigm), is that I TOTALLY FAILED to activate herright brain, buy generic Viagra. I failed to tell her any emotional/passion stories,stories about her thoughts about me, questions to race her passion, Viagra over the counter, .etc.. I failed to do ANYTHING to get her imagination running (I wasjust thinking of going to sleep), Buy Viagra No Prescription. I talked about work, the office,what is happening over holidays, her friends and left brain logicalbullshit, Viagra pharmacy. Probably safe to say, my 'right side emotional/passion brain'was also totally shut down, due to the tiredness. Order Viagra, I am sure I cameacross as a TOTAL AFC.

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At the beer, she only wanted a tiny bit of beer (not to sleep in movieshe says., order Viagra from mexican pharmacy. but really, I think probably she just felt not comfortable)

We see the movie. It is now only 8pm. I say lets get a bite/anotherbeer, Buy Viagra No Prescription. Buy Viagra in canada, She rejects. We start to walk back to the station.

Now, I know this chick is (was?) into me so at this point, I shouldhave brought out the big guns and called her bullshit, buy cheapest Viagra, and put therelationship on the line (again, too tired, just wasnt thinkinganything), Online buy Viagra without a prescription, like I did with psychicBabe the night before.

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Then I could have established that she follow me and my orders, if sheis to see me again, buy Viagra from mexico. Be very strict, and stern, like with psychicbabethe night before. Rx free Viagra, Rather, I afc'd out.. right to the end with whimpkiss move..bad. (fuckup #4)

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A correct approach, would have been at beer (or on the train on theway to the beer/movie place):-get her on the topic of talking about me/her (rather than work, purchase Viagra online no prescription, orjokes, or other shit).
'are you interested in me' -or- 'how do you feel when you re aroundme (use this as opner before above). Buy Viagra online no prescription, If this is going ok, then say why do you like me/interest me (this willget right brain feelings going, and activated)

If not getting anywhere, then attack DIRECTLY -after rejecteion from chick (LJBF).. say I thought so too, Viagra from canadian pharmacy, and thenblow her out first. Buy Viagra No Prescription, -when she is surprised about it, tell her she wasnt doing her job as a lady, and I expect certain things from a lady when I see her, and she hasnt been
measuring up to MY standards -relationship is like baseball -guy leads (pitches), girl bats, after 3 pitches.. you are out.
-expect each date more to happen, Buy no prescription Viagra online, and if not, then teh relationship is not likely to succeed -and tell her she was not doing her part -so I will find another girl who knows how to play/react properly.

basically, rule is that when a chick rejects something (and it is notfirst date/first time.. ) and ESPECIALLY if she did it with you alreadybefore., where can i buy Viagra online. then RAISE the STAKES., Buy Viagra No Prescription. that if she doesnt SHAPE UP now, thenthis will be the last time you see her, and you will get another girl,because you need her less than she needs you (like psychicbabe2, where I did itcorrectly the night before, and got the lay)..

At that point, I could have gone of call bullshit mode, and back to theemotion stories and sexy stuff till I got her back that night for the fuck, orrather, if we were close to the love hotels at that point, just take her backright then while her brain is still confused from the above.

A plan like that, would have worked. Next time, I get a 'cold chick'like this, I will apply it & report.

Next time.

Constructive comments/criticisms welcome.

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 Buy Ventolin No Prescription, Subject: Lay Report. HB Orange does the horizontal salsa.

Date: 11/12/2000

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Lay Report. HB Orange does the horizontal salsa.

001111
Tonight?s story is about HB orange (she had bright orange polka dot

panties, Buy Ventolin No Prescription. I rate her a high 8/low 9, I?ll put her picture in the lounge

later). I learned some new things about chick logic and chick bullshit

(as well as quazi-AFC logic when listening to her ex-bf?s stories),

which we?ll go into inside this report on how I was able to lay this

chick.
Again I used that new ?maniac plan.  Ventolin price, script I posted on ASF a couple

weeks ago.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, I am discovering that script is fucking lethal.. I have

now laid 3 chicks (2 HBs, 1 average) with it in the last 10 days,

all only hours after the start of the first meeting. I came damn

close to laying another one too, but ran out of time (got into heavy

petting and shit in the park at night with her). It is astonishing

how being organized and having a plan that is designed to

psychologically nuke a chick?s brain will get fast results. It has

increased my efficiency 3x I figure, as odds are that if I get the

chick to get to coffee with me, odds are > 50% that by the end of the

night, I will lay her., Ventolin for sale. far far higher than before, Buy Ventolin No Prescription.
Ok, lets get into tonight story, and talk about the setup, and the

odd things that happened along the way, and how I got past them..
I first met HB orange at a party over 2 years ago. We were supposed

to go out then ?so I could show her salsa?, but then she suddenly?disappeared?, cancelled her phone, Buy cheap Ventolin no rx, and didn?t reappear again until

2 months ago, when I ran into her completely by chance inside the

hallway of a community center in Tokyo. We both smiled, said ?hi do youremember me?, and she brought up the ?salsa lesson.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, that we were

supposed to do but never did.. I couldn?t fucking remember her name,

so I just asked her to enter her name/number into my cellphone and

gave it to her to do it.. so I got her name that way.
I call her a few days later, she is ?really. busy, buy generic Ventolin. So I tell her I

will call her in a few weeks when things are calmer, Buy Ventolin No Prescription. A few weeks go

by, & I call her and make a meeting for Saturday afternoon in a place

called Shibuya, here in Tokyo. Time comes, I show up..time goes..no

chick. I call her after 15 minutes, she says sorry, and asks to

reschedule (chick bullshit time). I am visibly unhappy on the phone, Rx free Ventolin, and do NOT accept her apology (just say something like ?I see?, and

how I expect chicks to call me a day ahead if they cant show up, and

this is not acceptable if they want to meet me.., and that she can

call me when she is ready to make an appointment and actually show

up.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, I hang up without offering to make another meeting time. I am

polite, but sound obviously cold to her on purpose). [turns out I

find out the night I finally did fuck her, that she overslept, and

was still in a daze when I called her & woke her. yep, another

disorganized chick, where can i buy Ventolin online, like HB blitz was]. Anyways, was OK, because my

?maniac plan. wasn?t completed yet, so I wouldn?t have been able to

fuck her probably, HAD she shown up, Buy Ventolin No Prescription.
HB orange calls me up 2 days later and asks to meet me. I tell her

I am pretty busy, and in a joking way, mention why I should makeappointments with people who stand me up. She apologizes a lot, Buy cheapest Ventolin, and

asks to meet me anyways. I tell her if she buys me a drink when we

meet, I will see her.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, [I did this, because it is an easy test.. If

a chick wont agree to spend $4 and buy me a drink for fucking up,

then she is unlikely to show up again, or she just wants to try

to play me to buy her dinner or stupid shit like that]. She says

that is no problem, she will buy me a drink, so I make an appointment

to see her on the following Tuesday. I tell her if she can?t come,

I need 24 hr notice, purchase Ventolin online.
Then she says she will call me the night before to ?confirm.

(another basic AFC test., Buy Ventolin No Prescription. basically, she wants the right to ?replace.

me with another guy if something comes along better.. ha!). Well I

am not going to take that so I tell her that when I make an

appointment, I keep it.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, So I tell her that if she is not sure that

she can meet me that day, she had better not make the appointment

at all. She says that she will keep it.
Next Monday comes, Order Ventolin online c.o.d, she calls me and said something happened at the

office (she does some sort of shift work), and she needs to work.

Probably bullshit I figure, but at least I got 24 hr notice. She

asks to reschedule, but I tell her I am really busy, and am going onbusiness, so I cant see her for a few weeks now (her punishment for

being an idiot). I kid, and tell her that now she owes me 2 drinks

and not just one, Buy Ventolin No Prescription. She says OK and asks me to call her when I get

back from my trip.
Trip happens, and I decide what the fuck, order Ventolin no prescription, to call her and see if I

can get my 2 free drinks. I now have my ?maniac plan. and I do some

of it over the phone (BVG sections).  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, It goes well, and I have her

attention. I ask her to meet the coming Friday, hoping to finish the

script in person, and lay her. I remind her she owes me 2 drinks,

and not to bother calling me again if she breaks the appointment.

I choose a place not too far from my house so that I can get her

back easily once I reach the end of the script.  Buy Ventolin without a prescription, Thursday night comes, she calls and makes sure I am coming (rather

than calling to cancel). I say I am, and expect to see her there the

next day, Buy Ventolin No Prescription.
Friday comes and I do a few things before I meet her.. First, I get

ready by showing up to the meeting area (I don?t go there often) 1

hour early, to find 3 beer bars where there are counters that you

can sit NEXT to the chick as opposed to facing her (so I can do

kino, kissing and other stuff). I find 3 because on Friday, often

places are full and you have to wait.. as I need 3 hours to do the

script, and want to be near the end of the script around last train

(if it is too soon, where can i buy cheapest Ventolin online, her state is not horny yet, and she will want

to go home on last train), so I don?t want to be stuck in a waiting

line at a beer bar..I want to be at the counter with her already

inside.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, So if I find 3 bars, one is bound to have room.
I do that, then go to the meeting place. She shows up, and I take

her to the first place (lineup!), no problem though, since I was

prepared, Ventolin samples, I take her right to the next place, and no line up, we

get right in..
They try to seat us at a table for 2 (bad, I want to be next to her

to be able to feel her up and kiss her, not facing her with a table

in the way), so I tell them I want to sit at the counter, they say

ok, and we are now next to each other at the counter.
Now I do the whole script from where I left off on the phone, exactly

the same way as I did for Screambabe on Monday, buy Ventolin from mexico. So I resume at ?A

(pizza story, getting lost on the train..etc), D(age regress, kiss

in Sao Paolo bar and 4 questions game), M(the nani nani kiss girl

story), H (Alle my love, HB Chalotte and her 2 BFs, the chick who

likes married guys), O (I skipped ourworld actually..just forgot

it), S (questions game, opener ?how many BF?s have you had), Buy Ventolin No Prescription.
It took about 3 hours to get to stage ?S. above, because she would

talk a lot and change the subject, so I would have to bring it back

all the time. I also used lots of kino, and like screambabe, and

other chick I tried it on a few weeks ago, the reverse kino usually

doesn?t start until a few questions into ?question game. at the

end..HB orange was like this too..she accepted kino from the start

(light, Purchase Ventolin online no prescription, getting more and more, on her shoulder, leg.etc, near the

end), but didn?t give any back until stage ?S?.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, Some questions I used in the game were ?describe your first kiss,

describe your best kiss (was with her dog she said ;-) ), I did the

?straberry fields. game I posted this week on ASF, and described

about how it is the guy?s job to pay attention to the chick at all

levels, and that you can learn a lot about how a chick is like in

bed, by how she dances. I then performed the story about HB ass

saying how it is easy to find a guy to fuck her, but hard to find a

guy to fuck her well, buy Ventolin in canada. I tell HB orange that my ex said to me that

I loved (fucked) her like a latin man. That turned her on, and

aroused her curiosity..suddenly, her questions got more and more

sexual during the game.
A few of her questions now and then were non-sexual, but I kept

on bringing out sexual (sort of) themed questions, Buy Ventolin No Prescription. I only used

the questions in the question inventory I posted with that long

?maniac plan. post.
After answering one of her questions I describe about how a man

and woman should communicate at all levels, she pops out ?so describe

how you foreplay a woman?. I knew I was home free when she asked

that..her mind was definitely in fuck mode now.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, I of course, gave

her a description that any woman would love.  Where can i order Ventolin without prescription, The question game

actually is great, because you can always let the conversation

drift into normal conversation, and then if things are going the

wrong way/getting boring, just say ?my/your turn for the next

question?, and get right back onto the sex-accel plan. When I do

a few questions where I ?achieved something. (like doing well at

work, or ordering a pizza in Japanese, I gesture for a cheek kiss..

I get 3 in total during this section of the question game, and we

are holding hands, buy Ventolin no prescription, as I grabbed it during one of the questions, and

kept it.. At first she put it down after a while, but I kept taking

it back when it was my next turn for question, and now she let me

keep it), Buy Ventolin No Prescription.
Another thing during the question game is that I did the'respect Madonna because she is strong, but still very mucha woman, and that I respect her because when she is given achance she takes it, and when she wants a man, she is notafraid to go after him.. how I do not respect women whotry to crush their passions and avoid a guy even though theywant him because they are afraid to look like cheap or slutor something stupid like that.
I go on to that was why I respected that chick in the Sao Paolobar who kissed me on first site..  Buy Ventolin online no prescription, because she was strong, wanted

me and was not afraid or too weak to take me'.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, This talk basically,

now set the stage for the rest of the evening.
After playing ?questions. for about 40 minutes, it is time to do the

close, and get this chick home to fuck. So I do the close with the

question game like this:
Maniac: ?have you ever kissed a guy on the first date?.

HB Orange: yesManiac: ?have you ever had sex with a guy on the first date?.

HB Orange: no  (probably she is lying when I see her say it..but that

 is ok, I know now she can do it by how she said she never does)Maniac: are you adventurous person (already asked this in step V, so

 I know she will say yes)HB orange: yesManiac: if your BF wanted to kiss you in a public place, would you be

 embarrased, Buy Ventolin No Prescription.

HB orange: yes, but I would do it.

Maniac: why did you decide to meet me tonightHB orange: you seemed interesting and smartManiac: do you like me, buy no prescription Ventolin online.

HB orange: yesManiac: why.

HB orange: smart, not cocky, not like other guys, think about the

 girl, not himself..blah blah blahManiac: this is a bit of an adventurous question, but would you

 afraid to kiss me here.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, HB orange: (blushes)..uh maybe its ok..

Maniac: ok then, lets see, Order Ventolin from mexican pharmacy, lets try a quick oneManiac & HB orange: SLOP.. a quick lips kiss.

Maniac:do you like the feeling of kissing.

HB orange: yesManiac: did that feel good.

HB orange: yes (blushes)Maniac: good, lets do another oneManiac & HB orange: SLOP SLOP., Buy Ventolin No Prescription. a longer kiss this timeManiac: when we get outside, we can do a longer one.
I tell HB orange, that we promised to do salsa lesson tonight, how

about we go do that now.. She asks me ?where?, and I say there is a

park nearby, online buy Ventolin without a prescription, lets go there. She says there is no music, how can we

do it.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, I reply and tell her that in that case my place is close, and

the downstairs of my house is arranged like studio, so if she feelscomfortable, she can go there. I tell her nothing will happen, and

she can have her own room to sleep in..etc.
She then says ?I don?t have sex on the first date, and I do not want

you to have sex with me, because I know you are a man, and what men

do (anti slut chick logic now activated).  Buy Ventolin online cod, While saying this, she is

holding both my hands, and got her leg up against me.. (for those who

read my Ms. Kinky lay report last year, you should know exactly what

is going on here., Buy Ventolin No Prescription. chick mouth saying one thing, chick body doing the

opposite. = maniac will probably get laid tonight).  I tell her I

understand, and I won?t have sex with her. She asks me again the

same promise, like 5 times, where can i find Ventolin online, and makes me promise I wont.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, I say that

we have known each other for 3 years now (well, 5 minutes over 3

years actually ;-) ), and that if I was bad, she would have heard

something by now about it. She agrees and we go outside.
Once we get out of the place, I take her to a quiet area near the

station, and do a 3 minute tonguedown. Then we go to the station,

and head to my place..
We get home, and start the music, Ventolin from canadian pharmacy, and do the ?salsa. lesson, Buy Ventolin No Prescription. The

first 5 minutes, I am serious about the salsa stuff, and then after

a set is done, I start to french kiss her again, and she pulls my

leg to her crotch (we are all still dressed BTW), so we are moving

to the music while against the wall, and she gets really hot &

bothered. I take her to the couch to sit down and we kiss some more,

and she has her hands on my chest. My leg is between hers, online buying Ventolin, and she

is panting and getting really excited now, we are still french kissing

too.
Then she starts to undo my pants, and starts to massage my dick and

pull it to her crotch.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, I touch her tits, but she reacts bad, like

ticklish (turns out she is really ticklish everywhere).  I ask her

if she likes me (reply: yes). I ask her if she wants me (reply: yes).

I pull off her pants and panties (absolutely no resistance), and give

her a really good fingering on the couch..she is going fucking crazy.

I ask her again if she wants me, Ventolin over the counter, she says ?yes?.
I carry her upstairs to my room, and she grabs my dick and tries to

put it in her cunt, Buy Ventolin No Prescription. I stop before she does this, and get the condom

on (safe sex #1), then I fuck her. After I give her a massage, I put

on another condom, and do her again. She has a very sweet and sexy

body, and is a good fuck?gets into it.
Then we talk a bit about her ex-BFs and things she found about while

dating.  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, Some of these are interesting, here are the highlights.
About 10 years ago, Ventolin pharmacy, in her teens, she was interested in a foreign

guy, so she decided to fuck her english teacher (who was married).

She didn?t care he was married though, because she said she was

young, and didn?t need any of that serious relationship stuff. Just

she wanted a good time and english practice and was happy to fuck

for it. She also said, that today there are very many foreign guys

in Japan (secret is out I guess!), Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, so girls don?t have to make any

effort to get one anymore, its so easy as there are so many now, but

that 10 years ago, it was much more rare to get one, so it was kind

of a luxury item to make your friends jealous.  (Japan isn?t what

it was anymore, lots of foreigner guys  here now compared to even

just a few years ago, but Korea and Vietnam, are still wide open

though., Buy Ventolin No Prescription. Maniac)

I kiddingly joked with HB orange about why she made me promiseto not have sex, but then after she decided to 'rape' me. Shethen replied "did I . ?", I didn't do anything, it "just happened"

naturally, order Ventolin. ;-)  Good answer, I will use it myself next time (funny, how it is possible to learn such good answers to questions

like this right from the chicks themselves!).  Buy Ventolin No Prescription, I also asked her why she decided to fuck me. She said that itsounded (from my stories) that I knew the proper way tomake a woman feel good, which was why she did (moral:stories, stories stories gentlemen!)
Some funny things she remarked.. when she was younger, she wasinto military guys in a big way, fucked like 6 or 7 (probablymore actually ;-)), but she wanted 'new ones', not ones who'dbeen here for a while.
Another good one was that she was once seeing this Australian guy,

and she caught him out because he had nude pictures of anotherchick he was fucking lying around his place, which she found.

She then (this is hilarious!) demanded $1000 to "prove he loved her"

or she'd break up with him.  And (even more hilarious!), he PAID, Buy Ventolin No Prescription. And

then (it gets even better), she decided to break up with him anyways

because "she kept thinking of the other girl during sex". And (the

coup de grace)... she KEPT THE MONEY!. Whata fucking AFC!, if a chick EVER asked me for money, it is thehighway baby. [personally, I think she broke up with him because he

actually agreed to such a ridiculous request, and she lost all respect

for him after]. (BTW, I made her pay for our evening before the fuck,

for all the cancellation and standmeups she didto me).
Constructive comments/opinions welcome.
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