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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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From: Svengali 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:26 -0800

Here's my challenge to everyone who is (a) afraid of meeting women,
and/or (b) not getting any women, or (c) not getting enough women.

This simple little challenge will (a) eliminate your fear of women, (b)
show you that you don't have to play any tricks to get and have them.

Ready?

Tomorrow, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real nice. 
I'm not asking anyone to put on any suits, or ties, or jackets
(unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your own
comfortable, natural way, wearing clean and at least reasonably pressed
clothes.  Then drive to the nearest shopping mall/center and walk
around looking and damn near everything.  As you're doing so, say "hi"
and give a smile to every woman who passes you by, and who is next to
you, and who is in front of you, or whatever.  The smile doesn't have
to be this big cheesy grin, but whatever is your normal, comfortable
way of smiling.  {Any kind of smile shows you're not depressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.}

Doing nothing else but giving a simple smile and "hi" to everyone,
you come back here on Monday and tell me that not one woman stopped
dead in her tracks to say some things to you after you did nothing more
then smile and say "hi".

A simple smile and "hello" to everyone.  Cost nothing, takes no time,
won't hurt anyone.  Yet I'll bet most of you will rationalize out
some reason(s) why you can't do this, and/or it's not good, and/or all
kinds of other things, and then come back here looking for that magical
pill advice, that will bring you all the women you want.

Guess what?

I just gave you the "magical pill" advice.  If you can't or won't say
"hi" to everyone with a smile (so they quickly see they have nothing to
be afraid of), NOTHING Ross Jeffries gives you, Maniac gives you, NYC
gives you, Mystery gives you, I give you, or whoever, will work.

Now get out there and prove me wrong.  I dare you!

-- 
If you don't know in the first twenty minutes whether or not you're going to
have sex with the woman you just met, and whether or not you even want to,
you're not a seductionist.

  'o o'
Svengali

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

De-shying practice!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


De-shying practice by Svengali!




From: Svengali 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:26 -0800

Here's my challenge to everyone who is (a) afraid of meeting women,
and/or (b) not getting any women, or (c) not getting enough women.

This simple little challenge will (a) eliminate your fear of women, (b)
show you that you don't have to play any tricks to get and have them.

Ready?

Tomorrow, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real nice. 
I'm not asking anyone to put on any suits, or ties, or jackets
(unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your own
comfortable, natural way, wearing clean and at least reasonably pressed
clothes.  Then drive to the nearest shopping mall/center and walk
around looking and damn near everything.  As you're doing so, say "hi"
and give a smile to every woman who passes you by, and who is next to
you, and who is in front of you, or whatever.  The smile doesn't have
to be this big cheesy grin, but whatever is your normal, comfortable
way of smiling.  {Any kind of smile shows you're not depressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.}

Doing nothing else but giving a simple smile and "hi" to everyone,
you come back here on Monday and tell me that not one woman stopped
dead in her tracks to say some things to you after you did nothing more
then smile and say "hi".

A simple smile and "hello" to everyone.  Cost nothing, takes no time,
won't hurt anyone.  Yet I'll bet most of you will rationalize out
some reason(s) why you can't do this, and/or it's not good, and/or all
kinds of other things, and then come back here looking for that magical
pill advice, that will bring you all the women you want.

Guess what?

I just gave you the "magical pill" advice.  If you can't or won't say
"hi" to everyone with a smile (so they quickly see they have nothing to
be afraid of), NOTHING Ross Jeffries gives you, Maniac gives you, NYC
gives you, Mystery gives you, I give you, or whoever, will work.

Now get out there and prove me wrong.  I dare you!

-- 
If you don't know in the first twenty minutes whether or not you're going to
have sex with the woman you just met, and whether or not you even want to,
you're not a seductionist.

  'o o'
Svengali

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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---

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » smile

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

---

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

De-shying practice!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

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De-shying practice by Svengali!




From: Svengali 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:26 -0800

Here's my challenge to everyone who is (a) afraid of meeting women,
and/or (b) not getting any women, or (c) not getting enough women.

This simple little challenge will (a) eliminate your fear of women, (b)
show you that you don't have to play any tricks to get and have them.

Ready?

Tomorrow, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real nice. 
I'm not asking anyone to put on any suits, or ties, or jackets
(unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your own
comfortable, natural way, wearing clean and at least reasonably pressed
clothes.  Then drive to the nearest shopping mall/center and walk
around looking and damn near everything.  As you're doing so, say "hi"
and give a smile to every woman who passes you by, and who is next to
you, and who is in front of you, or whatever.  The smile doesn't have
to be this big cheesy grin, but whatever is your normal, comfortable
way of smiling.  {Any kind of smile shows you're not depressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.}

Doing nothing else but giving a simple smile and "hi" to everyone,
you come back here on Monday and tell me that not one woman stopped
dead in her tracks to say some things to you after you did nothing more
then smile and say "hi".

A simple smile and "hello" to everyone.  Cost nothing, takes no time,
won't hurt anyone.  Yet I'll bet most of you will rationalize out
some reason(s) why you can't do this, and/or it's not good, and/or all
kinds of other things, and then come back here looking for that magical
pill advice, that will bring you all the women you want.

Guess what?

I just gave you the "magical pill" advice.  If you can't or won't say
"hi" to everyone with a smile (so they quickly see they have nothing to
be afraid of), NOTHING Ross Jeffries gives you, Maniac gives you, NYC
gives you, Mystery gives you, I give you, or whoever, will work.

Now get out there and prove me wrong.  I dare you!

-- 
If you don't know in the first twenty minutes whether or not you're going to
have sex with the woman you just met, and whether or not you even want to,
you're not a seductionist.

  'o o'
Svengali

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they wanted, or overall become more attractive to men.

If you can do that, then the world is your oyster, and great men will beat their way to
your door.

Good luck ladies.

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Eye Contact Pickup Theory

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


De-shying practice by Svengali!




From: Svengali 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:26 -0800

Here's my challenge to everyone who is (a) afraid of meeting women,
and/or (b) not getting any women, or (c) not getting enough women.

This simple little challenge will (a) eliminate your fear of women, (b)
show you that you don't have to play any tricks to get and have them.

Ready?

Tomorrow, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real nice. 
I'm not asking anyone to put on any suits, or ties, or jackets
(unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your own
comfortable, natural way, wearing clean and at least reasonably pressed
clothes.  Then drive to the nearest shopping mall/center and walk
around looking and damn near everything.  As you're doing so, say "hi"
and give a smile to every woman who passes you by, and who is next to
you, and who is in front of you, or whatever.  The smile doesn't have
to be this big cheesy grin, but whatever is your normal, comfortable
way of smiling.  {Any kind of smile shows you're not depressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.}

Doing nothing else but giving a simple smile and "hi" to everyone,
you come back here on Monday and tell me that not one woman stopped
dead in her tracks to say some things to you after you did nothing more
then smile and say "hi".

A simple smile and "hello" to everyone.  Cost nothing, takes no time,
won't hurt anyone.  Yet I'll bet most of you will rationalize out
some reason(s) why you can't do this, and/or it's not good, and/or all
kinds of other things, and then come back here looking for that magical
pill advice, that will bring you all the women you want.

Guess what?

I just gave you the "magical pill" advice.  If you can't or won't say
"hi" to everyone with a smile (so they quickly see they have nothing to
be afraid of), NOTHING Ross Jeffries gives you, Maniac gives you, NYC
gives you, Mystery gives you, I give you, or whoever, will work.

Now get out there and prove me wrong.  I dare you!

-- 
If you don't know in the first twenty minutes whether or not you're going to
have sex with the woman you just met, and whether or not you even want to,
you're not a seductionist.

  'o o'
Svengali

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » smile

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com

Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

---

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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From: Svengali 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:26 -0800

Here's my challenge to everyone who is (a) afraid of meeting women,
and/or (b) not getting any women, or (c) not getting enough women.

This simple little challenge will (a) eliminate your fear of women, (b)
show you that you don't have to play any tricks to get and have them.

Ready?

Tomorrow, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real nice. 
I'm not asking anyone to put on any suits, or ties, or jackets
(unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your own
comfortable, natural way, wearing clean and at least reasonably pressed
clothes.  Then drive to the nearest shopping mall/center and walk
around looking and damn near everything.  As you're doing so, say "hi"
and give a smile to every woman who passes you by, and who is next to
you, and who is in front of you, or whatever.  The smile doesn't have
to be this big cheesy grin, but whatever is your normal, comfortable
way of smiling.  {Any kind of smile shows you're not depressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.}

Doing nothing else but giving a simple smile and "hi" to everyone,
you come back here on Monday and tell me that not one woman stopped
dead in her tracks to say some things to you after you did nothing more
then smile and say "hi".

A simple smile and "hello" to everyone.  Cost nothing, takes no time,
won't hurt anyone.  Yet I'll bet most of you will rationalize out
some reason(s) why you can't do this, and/or it's not good, and/or all
kinds of other things, and then come back here looking for that magical
pill advice, that will bring you all the women you want.

Guess what?

I just gave you the "magical pill" advice.  If you can't or won't say
"hi" to everyone with a smile (so they quickly see they have nothing to
be afraid of), NOTHING Ross Jeffries gives you, Maniac gives you, NYC
gives you, Mystery gives you, I give you, or whoever, will work.

Now get out there and prove me wrong.  I dare you!

-- 
If you don't know in the first twenty minutes whether or not you're going to
have sex with the woman you just met, and whether or not you even want to,
you're not a seductionist.

  'o o'
Svengali

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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De-shying practice by Svengali!




From: Svengali 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:26 -0800

Here's my challenge to everyone who is (a) afraid of meeting women,
and/or (b) not getting any women, or (c) not getting enough women.

This simple little challenge will (a) eliminate your fear of women, (b)
show you that you don't have to play any tricks to get and have them.

Ready?

Tomorrow, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real nice. 
I'm not asking anyone to put on any suits, or ties, or jackets
(unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your own
comfortable, natural way, wearing clean and at least reasonably pressed
clothes.  Then drive to the nearest shopping mall/center and walk
around looking and damn near everything.  As you're doing so, say "hi"
and give a smile to every woman who passes you by, and who is next to
you, and who is in front of you, or whatever.  The smile doesn't have
to be this big cheesy grin, but whatever is your normal, comfortable
way of smiling.  {Any kind of smile shows you're not depressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.}

Doing nothing else but giving a simple smile and "hi" to everyone,
you come back here on Monday and tell me that not one woman stopped
dead in her tracks to say some things to you after you did nothing more
then smile and say "hi".

A simple smile and "hello" to everyone.  Cost nothing, takes no time,
won't hurt anyone.  Yet I'll bet most of you will rationalize out
some reason(s) why you can't do this, and/or it's not good, and/or all
kinds of other things, and then come back here looking for that magical
pill advice, that will bring you all the women you want.

Guess what?

I just gave you the "magical pill" advice.  If you can't or won't say
"hi" to everyone with a smile (so they quickly see they have nothing to
be afraid of), NOTHING Ross Jeffries gives you, Maniac gives you, NYC
gives you, Mystery gives you, I give you, or whoever, will work.

Now get out there and prove me wrong.  I dare you!

-- 
If you don't know in the first twenty minutes whether or not you're going to
have sex with the woman you just met, and whether or not you even want to,
you're not a seductionist.

  'o o'
Svengali

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David Shade writes about Eye Contact Theory

From: David Shade 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Eye Contact
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:44:04 GMT
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In article <7j8j9c$cdu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  daddy03@my-deja.com wrote:
> I've been reading the many helpful posts by all the experienced
players.
> I was wondering how the experts utilize eye contact.  Do you guys when
> you first see a girl you like try to establish eye contact?  What
> happens after you get eye contact?  For some reason, when I make eye
> contact with a girl, I feel like I'm violting her in some sort of way.
> It's as if a girl can sense that I'm lusting after her with my eyes.

That's what you want her to sense.

I posted this once, and I will cut and paste it again...

Eye Contact Experiment

I asked one woman friend of mine "why did you go out with him?"
and she replied: "because when I looked at him he kept eye contact with
me."

When I recall the very successful people I have had the pleasure of working for in the
corporate world, I remember that they all maintained eye contact while speaking to me.
When you watch somebody successful being interviewed on TV, like Scott McNealy of
Sun, you notice that they never look away from their interviewer's eyes
and they rarely blink.

You are approaching a chick in the hall as you walk towards each other. When should
you look at her? (Her eyes, silly. If you look at anything else, it's over.) I have tried all
combinations. If I wait until the last instant, I either find she is not looking, or, if she is
looking, she quickly looks away. If I look at her and she looks at me and I look away,
then she never looks again. Then I tried something bold and decide I will look at her
eyes the entire time. To my amazement, she gazes like a deer into headlights. Never
breaks eye contact. So I decide to try this little experiment. 

Recently I spent a week attending meetings in one of our buildings filled with educated
successful professional women in their 20's and 30's. Most are definitely doable. Some
are gorgeous. Some are married, some are not. I spent my time between meetings trying
this: I would pick a different floor and I would walk down each hall, walking just slightly
to the right of center. When I saw a woman walking towards me, I maintained looking at
her eyes. Only the heavy ones did not keep looking. But for all the others, including the
gorgeous ones, they maintained eye contact the entire time. I never blinked. They never
blinked. They broke eye contact only when we were just about next to each other. I
broke eye contact only after she did. What really amazed me was that by the time we
passed, almost every chick had broken a smile. Some even said "Hi." I did not smile or
say Hi until they first did.

These halls were not long. Each woman was no farther than 30 feet away when I first
saw her. But what if it had been a very long hall? How far down the hall should I start
looking at her eyes? I certainly don't want to scare her. I look straight ahead, and then
when she is about 30 feet away, I start looking into her eyes.

I then went to the mall a few times to try the experiment there. Most did not look at all.
Of those who did look, most only looked for a second. Only about a third locked on. Of
those, about half broke a smile or said Hi. A couple of them where so moved that they
almost tripped.

Do you have to be walking? I tried the experiment while sitting. Almost none maintained
eye contact. Do they have to be walking? While I was walking I would look at any
chicks who were sitting. The results were the same as if we were both walking.

If I was approaching two chicks, and looked from one to the other, I lost them both. So,
if I am in such a situation, I lock onto one and I don't change my mind. 

If I smiled or said Hi, while she was still looking at me, but before she smiled or said Hi,
it would usually result in my loosing her. On rare instances did it make her smile and say
Hi with enthusiasm. So, I never smile or say Hi until she first does so, and I smile if she
smiles and say Hi if she says Hi.

If she did not lock eye contact with me, I would go ahead and say Hi when she got close
to me. In many instances she would then enthusiastically turn to me and smile and say Hi.

I would also look at chicks who were with a man if he was not looking in my general
direction. I was surprised at the number of times that she would lock on and actually
smile.

I noticed that the better I dressed, or the sexier I dressed, the better I did. I noticed that
the women who looked where better dressed then those who did not.

Eye contact in a bar is an entire science in itself. When done correctly, it can be 
fucking lethal.

Real players never stare.  They lock eye contact. There is a difference between
staring and locking eye contact. They are two totally different things.

When you look at a woman, here is what you do. Lock eye contact with her. Don't
blink. Don't look at her friend. Pick one eye and don't let go. You only get one chance
at this. Don't give up. Don't smile. Don't say anything. You are telling her that you are
interested in her and you are not intimidated by her. Then leave it up to her. You will be
amazed at the staring capability that women posses. 

She is thinking "Who is this guy to be so bold as to continue looking at me while I look
at him? Now this is interesting. He is different." She knows that if she lets go now, she
will loose you. She will go one of two ways. If she wants to loose you, she will break
eye contact and look away. If she does not want to loose you, but is instead intrigued by
what you are doing, she knows that she has to eventually end the stare down and she
will have to make the move. She will have to either smile or say Hi.

If she smiles, you smile. If she says Hi, you say Hi. Don't say Hello. Then you reward
her and make your move.

Of course, you don't always have to wait for eye contact to make your move.

David Shade