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Topic:      Korean double LR/Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)From: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 02:50 AM
Formhandle/TokyoPUA Asian Lay Reports & Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)
So this is part II to the Korea Lay Report that Formhandle wrote. Its my perspective

on the seduction that I did in Korea at the same bar where Jay seduced his chick.  Flagyl over the counter, Most of the time we were entirely focused only on our own women (which divided their

attention very well), so there isn't much comment on what Formhandle's stuff. Besides,

he already wrote the most detailed lay report known to PUA's on that, so no more

information is necessary from me on that.
As usual, the format is in the "Lay Tutorial" format that I first created with my HB

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Keys to the lay:
Physical:-I was well dressed, in black pants and a short sleeve tan collared shirt, thin material,

black leather loafers.  Rx free Flagyl, In Asia in general, I think you are going to get good reactions

from women when dressed well.

-She knew I was staying at the same hotel (it is a nice hotel, and this signals that I am

available).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, -I had done pushups to pump up immediately before going down to the bar. This gave 3

advantages: 1.) I looked more muscular than I am and she happened to be an aerobics

instructor who likes men who exercise 2.) it got my blood pumping so that I thought faster

3.) it released endorphins that made me feel more confident and thus act more confident.

This is like the physical part of "state control", Flagyl from canadian pharmacy.
Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

attracted to a man and chooses to have sex with a him to an interview, and then progressed

the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male
Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.
Details:
Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

suit guy talking to them, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Buy cheap Flagyl no rx, Picture Lucy Liu in a light blue tight fitting sequined cocktail

dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

wearing a g-string. Damn, I can barely keep writing just remembering how hot she was.
Needless to say I wanted her immediately, but didn't break in right away, buy Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I wanted her to

take in my confident manner first, and I also needed to contain my desire and composure a

bit. I instead walked directly past them onto the dance floor. After only 10 seconds of

waiting and checking out the scene I led us back to the bar, got my beer, then got good EC

from the HBLucyLiu.  Where can i find Flagyl online, The suit guy was gone by this time (I also just knew he was going to

crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.
I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

quick decision), I just went in to talk to her cold, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She answered whatever I said in

English, buy Flagyl in canada, and I said ?eOh, good, you speak English" in a tone that suggested that was a

good thing for her, and then immediately gave her kino on her bare arm.  Buy Flagyl from mexico, She then looked at

my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

opportunity).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, So we have got good mutual kino and rapport at this point, all is going

well.
She asked me what I do for a living and I replied, order Flagyl no prescription, she asked if I make good money, I said

"good enough". She asked if I had been to Korea before, etc.  Where can i buy Flagyl online, I got her teaching me some

Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.
I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

liked it buy joked that I was a pervert.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I responded with the David X line "Well, yes,

but I'm not sure what kind of pervert. You will just have to find out later." I said

this with a bit of a devilish smile for effect, and she liked it.  Online buying Flagyl, By this point Jay had already led his chick out of the place and I was looking at doing

the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"
At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

pattern about favorite actor and ideal man. Her favorite actor was Tom Cruise so I asked

what it was about him that she liked, buy Flagyl without a prescription. She couldn't really answer to my satisfaction so I

asked her then what are the qualities of her ideal man, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She said "I have to be able to

talk with him naturally, we have to click. And I notice his style first." Well, I was

dressed pretty stylish and we were talking really well, Order Flagyl from mexican pharmacy, so I figured I would pace and

lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

turn to leave, so I tried a trial close. "There is a great view of Seoul from my room. We

will go up there in awhile." But she declined, saying "No, Flagyl price, me and my friend have to go

after this.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, We just came to drink tonight and have fun." I just smiled and said something

like, "well, that's OK by me" in a tone that sort of hinted she was the one missing out

and that I wouldn't care. I just took it as a speed bump, I knew I still had time to turn

it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).
So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).
She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so

that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

enthusiastic about the idea. "Ok, now I am going to pull my hand away, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Wait, I think

there are more in there, so let me get them all." Then I take my hand away and say " And

now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I

do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.
Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):
-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.
As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)
-TokyoPUA

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Topic:      Korean lay report & tutorial (Part1: FormhandleConf: Field ReportsFrom: formhandle formhandle@fastseduction.comDate: Monday, September 16, 2002 09:14 PM
Formhandle/TokyoPUA Asian Double-Lay Reports & Tutorial (Part 1: Formhandle)
This will be a 2-part lay report & tutorial, based on a 2-set PU done by

TokyoPUA and Formhandle while visiting Korea. This part is Formhandle?fs side of

the PU/seduction; TokyoPUA will post the other side of the PU/seduction within a

week or so.
TokyoPUA?fs preferred method of writing up a lay report is to also treat it as a

detailed tutorial, so I?fll be doing the same with mine. This particular report

will focus on multiple aspects of a highly efficient bar/club PU & same night

lay, dealing with a 2-set as a 2-set of wings, while maintaining minimal wing

communication.
Specific key points (a lot!):
- TokyoPUA?fs ?gtoolbox?h philosophy- Proper mental state & preparation- ?gDivision of pussy?h (DOP)- Simplified approaching- Time efficiency- Advanced kino- Use of technology to enhance tactics- EV to create emotional rapport- Kiss tests- Creating & building attraction- Dividing set attention- Examples of mixing in NLP mid-PU to bridge states- Chess style thinking versus linear plans- KAMI- Separation of set- Recovering from logistical errors- Maintaining state- Leading- Closing (wouldn?ft be a lay report without it :-)
Total time of PU for to initially get chick up to hotel room:- 25 minutes
Total time of PU for a full close:- 90 minutes, maybe less
TokyoPUA & I traveled to Asia around the last couple weeks of August, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. The first

leg of the trip, we spent 3.5 days in Tokyo and crashed at Maniac's place most

of the time (report on meeting Maniac will appear in a different post).  Zovirax over the counter, On the

second half of the trip, we spent 3 days in Seoul, staying at a very nice hotel

- the plan was to relax after all our traveling and that it was essentially the

first few days of a real ?gvacation?h for either of us in a while.
Before heading to Korea, TokyoPUA hooked up with 2 of his MLTRs in Japan that he

set up before we left Boston. He wanted to set up a meet with another MLTR he

usually meets in Korea, but the logistics didn?ft work out.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, As for me, it had

been my first visit to Asia so all I pulled off in Japan was a few @closes (a

?g10?h in the subway while I was lost lugging around luggage, a stripper at an

international party - 8.5, sweet tiny body, and a chick who was with her AFC

boyfriend at some club - 8 at best) and some kino/lip action at the same club

from another chick (about 8.5).
Needless to say, TokyoPUA was more exhausted than I was after getting into Korea

but neither of us had much sleep (getting up at 5AM) before flying in and we

both basically checked into our respective rooms and crashed for about 4 hours

before heading out. Actually, except for the breakfast on the plane, we didn?ft

even eat that day except for making some shakes with some protein powder that

TokyoPUA had with him. But, we were determined to make do, Zovirax pharmacy, and TokyoPUA always

has a great way of creating a great positive outlook on immediate plans. He does

a workout, pumps up his attitude, and talks about how positive the situation is.

Basically NLPing me into the same positive state - life is good, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.
It was Sunday night and the plan was to head down to the large bar/club at the

bottom of the hotel (which happened to also be a popular nightspot in Seoul), PU

some chicks, and bring them up to our respective rooms. Simple. The logistics

were good as long as we could find some hot chicks down there on a Sunday night.

Well, this was Korea, so that wasn?ft too hard to do.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, TokyoPUA has a base philosophy of treating pickup and seduction as a ?gtoolbox?h

structure.  Buy Zovirax online no prescription, Everything possible that can be done or learned to improve success

potential can be added to a guy?fs ?gtoolbox?h of tactics. If it?fs positive and

it works in some aspect, it gets added to the toolbox. Attitude, presentation,

positive thinking, NLP, mental preparation, practice, kino, social proof, humor,

stories, MP3 player, rx free Zovirax, everything. Then, for any given PU, any number of those

things can be pulled out to work in your favor as long as the overall

presentation is congruent. Nothing should be disregarded if it works for you on

some level, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of so far:- Staying at a nice hotel (vague aura of material value)- Proximity dynamic for chicks when a close is eminent (rooms upstairs)- Good dress (sharp-dressed guys)- Contrast (western guys surrounded by mostly Koreans)- Positive NLP state pre-PU- ?gVacation?h state
So that?fs the setup. We tell ourselves we?fre going downstairs to PU some

chicks. 2 minutes later at around 11:30 PM, we?fre walking into the main bar and

get a couple of Coronas, clink bottles, and within a few seconds TokyoPUA spies

a 2-set to our immediate left at the corner of the bar. The hotter one of the

set (basically an uncanny 9.5 Lucy Liu look-alike) who was talking to some older

guy became TokyoPUA?fs target and he leaned over to me and said ?gI?fm going to

go talk to the chick to my left after that old guy is gone, you can talk to the

other one if you want.?h I take a look over and she?fs good enough, Buy generic Zovirax, about 7.5

and I figure to at least wing for TokyoPUA if not go ahead and work my own PU on

her.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Worst case, I always enjoy seeing TokyoPUA in action, I?fve learned a lot

from him.
Within a minute, the old guy leaves and TokyoPUA moves over to talk to HBLucyLiu

while I simultaneously move around to talk to HBFriendfofLucyLiu (LOL). I forget

our exact openers, I believe it was simply hellos all around and quick intros

and pretty quickly TokyoPUA and I just focused on our respective chicks. After

that point, we didn?ft really pay much attention to each other except for an

occasional glance to guesstimate how far the other guy was into his PU.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- DOP- 3s rule- Universal Opener (disabling smiles)
Basically, we looked like a couple of confident guys walking into a bar, getting

ourselves a drink and talking to the first chicks that interest us. That?fs what

we were, so that?fs what we looked like, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.
Initially, TokyoPUA?fs chick was sitting in the chair next to my target, but I

just used that as an opportunity to lean into HBFriendofLucyLiu and so some

slight kino while talking in her ear (the ?gI can?ft hear you so I have to lean

in & touch you?h tactic). This is a standard bar/club thing to do nowadays, buy Zovirax from mexico, and

is neutral. Quickly, though, TokyoPUA moved his chick off her stool and had her

stand near him as he did his stuff so I moved onto the stool next to

HBFriendofLucyLiu to enhance kino options.
I fluff with HBFriendofLucyLiu for a minute, I don?ft recall about what exactly,

something about asking her to tell me about the area, but that?fs unimportant,

as I?fve learned countless times now that it?fs not what you say but rather how

you say things.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Other topics I like to get chicks talking on is what they did

during the day, that gets chicks talkative and provided additional conversation

tangents to pick from. I looked over and noticed TokyoPUA showing HBLucyLiu

something on his Sony Clie' NR70V PDA (if you want to see what one looks like,

go to http://www.sony.com/clie/). I?fve also got one of those - since getting

them, Buy Zovirax no prescription, both of us have been mastering the use of those devices as a PU tool (for

social proof, display of value/intelligence, poetry, videos, creating imagery,

tracking PUs, taking pictures of chicks, even for getting around complex subway

systems. Anyway, I use that as an opportunity to start what I?fll call a ?gchess

meta-structure?h with HBFriendofLucyLiu by pulling my Clie' out while saying

?gOh, TokyoPUA likes to show stuff on his Clie', so do I.?h In retrospect, I

should have said ?gOh, TokyoPUA is showing your friend something on his Clie'; I

have one, Zovirax samples, too. Want to see??h Anyway, I flip it open and show her a couple of

things and ?gaccidentally?h end up in a picture viewer where there are social

proof pictures of chicks I?fve PU?fd as well as pictures of me with chicks. Then

I show her a video of a movie trailer of Spider-Man, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. The point wasn?ft the video

or to impress her with the device, but rather 2 reasons: to show that the

pictures of chicks is an everyday thing for me to experience (since I don?ft

dwell on it) and to start the chess structure of leading to my eliciting from

her what kind of man turns her on.
Here?fs how it went:
Jay: That?fs a movie trailer?c blah blah?cChick: ?cJay: Did you see this movie yet.

Chick: No / Yes / I like cheese / whateverJay: What was the last movie you saw.

Chick: Minority report.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Jay: Who was in that??c Tom Cruise.

Chick: Yes.

Jay: Did you see that movie just because Tom Cruise was in it.

Chick: Well, not really.  Buy Zovirax online cod, Jay: Who is your favorite actor.

Chick: (can?ft really define one, so just says ?gTom Cruise?h and then mentions

the name of an actress and leans towards her friend to corroborate the name?c

BTW, this was also the first hint that these chicks might be bi-sexual)
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Kino- Use of technology/gadget for enhancing social proof- Use of technology/gadget for bridging to the next seduction stage- Eliciting male ideal
At this point, I elicit that she doesn?ft like ?gpretty boys?h and extremely

good-looking guys because she doesn?ft think they have much redeeming value, or

whatever she was saying, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. Luckily, I?fm not a ?gpretty boy?h, although I don?ft

say that, I just elicit more as to what she does & doesn?ft like about MEN

(she?fs not really saying she does or doesn?ft like men who look a certain way,

she?fs saying what she does or doesn?ft like in men - get it?)
So this is where I do my point-away to the outside world while talking about

?gthose guys?h she doesn?ft like and self-points while talking about kinds of

guys she does like, which I hadn?ft really determined yet, but that?fs coming?c
After I establish a base of visual anchoring that I am presumably of the type of

man she likes, I begin to then intensify the kino and lead the convo towards

eliciting her what turns her on and anchoring those feelings to me. After that,

leading to anchoring sexual imagery to me, and then creating physical anchors on

her body that I can keep reinforcing through to sex.
The structure for that was:
Getting off the subject of actors, since I couldn?ft elicit a specific actor for

traits that she gets turned on by (again, where can i find Zovirax online, chess maneuvering versus linear

seduction).
Jay: So have you ever traveled outside of Korea.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, (start touching back of her

hand on her leg for longer bit of time, each time I talk)Chick: Some places.

Jay: Have you ever traveled to the United States.

Chick: Just once.

Jay: Which part.

Chick: Arkansas / Kansas / whateverJay: You?fve been to the US and experienced what men from the US are like (self-point) ?c and you also probably see a few western/American men around Seoul. So,

tell me, what is it that you like more about men from the US (self-point) than

Korean men (point away), Buy Zovirax No Prescription.

Chick: I?fve never been with one.

Jay: Never been with a guy.

Chick: Never been with a Korean guy?c all my boyfriends have not been Korean.
At this point, knowing the percentage of non-Asian western/US guys in Korea at

any given time is probably less than 0.2%, I figure my value to her is greater

than initially anticipated, Order Zovirax online c.o.d, and that she probably has a fetish about it.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, I could

then elicit further while simultaneously anchoring myself to her desires since

some of my guesswork has been taken care of. Remember, just because you may be

exotic & desirable to a chick, doesn?ft mean you don?ft need to still do the

work to seduce her into bed.
Jay: Tell me about your first boyfriend (presumably the first guy she also got

laid with).
She mentions a couple of throwaway things and then I asked her to tell me when

she first knew she was attracted to him (self-point).
She describes first meeting the guy and not thinking he was good-looking and

then she caught him smile a certain way and she saw how sexy he was ?c because

of that smile. Here?fs where listing to a chick is very important - as she was

saying that, I made an accurate presumption of what she was going to say, and as

she describe the smile, I smiled at that time, with the simultaneous thought

going through my mind of ?gyou see me as a sexy guy?h, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. Boom, I could see the

start of a DDB right there. Now time to build the basis of her creating sexual

imagery in her head of us fucking, while also anchoring it. The whole time she

was describing this, I was also giving her intense EC.
I ask her how long it was before she was first ?gwith?h her first BF (meaning, purchase Zovirax online,

first time they fucked).  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, She said 1 month. Then I lead her to talk about when

she first really felt like she wanted him to ?gtake her?h. She described a time

about 2 weeks into their ?gdating?h where they were over a friend?fs place and

were in bed together but he didn?ft make a move.
So then I started my real magic:
Jay: He didn?ft touch you that night.

Chick: No.

Jay: Did you want him to, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.

Chick: Sort of (yes)Jay: Of course you did. So, if that night he went over to you and touched you

(just as I say that, I lean into her as I say ?gtouch you?h and put my hand on

her thigh), what would you have wanted to do.

Chick: Nothing?c it was too fast.

Me: (Still with hand on thigh) Really.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, I think you would have attacked him,

seeing how much you were attracted to him.  Zovirax price, Chick: (Blushing, looking slightly down) Yes.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Escalating kino- Anchoring- Leading her state by pacing her through past experiences
Then I shifted the conversation to her next BF, claiming that I could guess that

her ?gnext?h time happened faster. She denied that. Then, I re-worded the

question and she admitted 2 weeks. So then (while making hand gestures) I said,

?gSee, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. So each time you?fre with a new guy, the time it takes to be with him

gets shorter and shorter.?h As I say this, I start changing my hand gestures

from connotation of length to circular motions meant to go back & forth between

her & me. ?g?cand, you notice that the more guys you are with, you are able to

see exactly what it is that you are attracted to him for and you begin to be

able to feel that attraction very fast, until you get to the point where you

just look at a guy and know you want to be with him right away.?h At this point

I release my hands and put my right hand on her right thigh and my left hand on

the side of her arm, order Zovirax no prescription. She?fs pretty much DDB?fd by now, and I know all kinds of

kino are possible. The next step is to now get more sexually physical with her

(kissing, tongue down, hands on ass, etc.)
Here?fs how I did that:
Jay: When you know you?fre with a guy that you?fre sexually attracted to, how do

you feel.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Chick: blah blah (doesn?ft matter, just let her talk, pick out any trance words

you might want to use later)Jay: And, when you feel that, what do you like him to do with you before you

have sex.

Chick: (some vague description of foreplay)
I start relaying to her that there are 2 kinds of sex: simple (fast,

?gquickies?h) and sensual (slow, foreplay). Which gives me a good base to start

describing some kinds of foreplay and lead her to the next critical question.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Escalating state to more explicit sexual talk and imagery- Concession about attraction, Buy cheapest Zovirax, linking immediate attraction to me
Jay: Where do you like a guy to kiss you, other than your lips.

Check: On my neck.

Jay: You mean here, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. (I brush away her hair from her neck)Chick: Yes.

Jay: Like this. (I lean in and start kissing her neck, then pull back casually

as if I was simply a curious child. Of course, she likes that.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Most chicks like

that.)Jay: How did that feel.

Chick: Good.

Jay: That?fs good?c and how do you like to kiss a guy, other than on the lips,

to show him you?fre interested in him sexually.

Chick: I sometimes kiss his arm, purchase Zovirax online no prescription, maybe bite it a little.

Jay: Show me. (putting my arm out near her)
She takes my arm and starts kissing, licking, and playfully biting it, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. Note to

guys: put a dab of cologne under your palms before going out. She commented that

she liked my cologne.
When she stops doing that and turns to me, I tell her that it felt good, that I

liked that. Then, I leaned very close to her and told her that what I find sexy

about a woman isn?ft about looks but rather that she can show a guy her

attraction to him through very sensual physical touches and kisses.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Then I pull

back and ask her about her first kisses with her boyfriends. I only let her talk

about that for a short bit before I pull Mystery?fs kiss-close routine to use:

?gHow would you rate your kisses??h She says she doesn?ft know so I say,

?gLet?fs test.?h I go in for the kiss & we?fre lip-locked for about 10 seconds.

I move back and say, Online buying Zovirax, ?gThat was nice?c how would you rate that kiss??h She liked

it, but couldn?ft rate it, so I use that as an excuse to tell her we?fll try

again. We do & after that I tell her I?fm going to kiss her on the neck again

because I liked that. I do & also lick the side of her face a bit. I pulled back

and she told me she just felt goose bumps all over her body, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.
I want to make an important comment here about what I said to her regarding what

I liked & what I thought was sexy. Essentially, I?fm presenting logic to this

chick the same way most chicks present logic to a guy in order to tell him what

they like, through subtext, so that he?fll do it to please them without them

having to actually verbalize things explicitly. I told her that I think a woman

is sexy to me when she SHOWS her attraction in a physical way. My subtext was:

?gNow it?fs time to show your attraction.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, If you do, I?fll know you?fre

attracted and you?fll get the good stuff running through your mind right now.?h
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Further escalation of kino to blatantly sexual- Sexual escalation, creation of anticipation
Right when she said she was feeling goose bumps, I decided to set a physical

anchor in case I needed it for later (state inducement or KAMI leading). I told

her that I could make her feel something on her arm without touching her. She

then held out her arm and I started sliding my palm up & down her forearm, where can i order Zovirax without prescription, just

hovering over her skin. This kept her goose-bump feeling going and then I said,

?gSee, and I didn?ft have to touch you.?h Just as I said that, I touched the

base of her arm and described how much more fun it its to REALLY touch,

intensified that, and then told her that it gets better & better the more people

touch, as I slid my hand up her forearm, raising her arm with my other hand,

moving my sliding hand up the rest of her arm.
After doing that, I tell her I like her skin. If a chick has good skin,

definitely let her know, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.  Buy Zovirax in canada, It?fs a great compliment and chances are she?fll want

you to touch more of it.
I want to make a side note here about maintaining a division of attention of the

chicks. Normally, when dealing with sets, you?fll encounter situations where the

chicks don?ft like to have their set attention divided. Additionally, you?fll

want to be aware of the concern to separate your chicks physically while still

allowing them a modicum of communication so that they can be aware of the

other?fs location and safety.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Usually for PUs in environments like this, a 1-on-1 scenario is best, but that?fs not a regular occurrence to see a chick by

herself in a bar, so treat each chick as if she were on her own, and don?ft

bother with disabling obstacles since each wing is effectively doing that for

the other. Don?ft separate chicks too quickly. First, make sure enough rapport

and attraction has been created in each chick before a physical separation. Then

separate as cleanly and quickly as possible, with no cause for concern from

either chick, and allow each chick enough of a moment to just signal to the

other one that her safety is OK. When done when both chicks are effectively in

deep attraction, order Zovirax from mexican pharmacy, they?fll be primarily concerned about their own pleasure reward

and only secondarily concerned where the friend is going as long as there?fs an

?geverything is OK?h signal (which, of course, will happen since the other chick

is also concerned primarily about her own pleasure reward).
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- KAMI/state anchoring- Division of set tactics
After setting the physical anchor, and building HBFriendofLucyLiu?fs attraction

to a critical point, she decides to get out of her seat and begin dancing a

little (jiggling) to the music in the bar/club, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. I learned something from Cliff a

long time ago at a party, it?fs a wonder it was never so clear to me before

then, that whenever a chick who you?fve been engaging begins to dance/jiggle in

front of you in that way, she?fs effectively unconsciously trying to engage your

immediate sexual interest and appetite. It?fs like a sign telling you ?gOK, I?fm

effectively attracted to you, now I?fm signaling you that it?fs almost time I

want to have sex with you.?h Additionally, I?fve learned from MrSex4uNYC that

the best thing to do is display that you?fre clearly noticing her & her body

doing this FOR you and show appreciation in your eyes, return a sexual gaze, Order Zovirax, engage her as if you?fve already been fucking.
So, I make a wide space between my legs and HBFriendofLucyLiu moves between them

and dances between my legs. I put my hands on her hips, close to her ass, and

tell her that I like the way her hips move, and that she?fs turning me on.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, I

move her closer and start pressing my hand into her crotch and rubbing through

her skirt. Then, do more neck-kissing and lip-kissing. I pull my head back and

ask her what kind of music is playing. She says ?gMalaysian?h. Then I ask her

what other kinds of music she likes to dance to and she rambles on about

something. I ask her if she likes Spanish music (I happen to have all the tracks

from B-Tribe?fs ?gSensual Sensual?h on the Clie') and she says yes (what chick

who likes to dance doesn?ft?), Buy Zovirax No Prescription. So, I ask her if she?fs heard of B-Tribe, where can i buy Zovirax online. She

says no and I pull out the Clie' and ask her if she?fd like to listen. She says

yes, but then I say ?gOh, but I didn?ft bring my mini-headphones, so she won?ft

be able to. I look at her and say again that I like the way she moves as I put

one of my hands back on her ass.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Then I say that, actually, I have speakers up

in my room and we can listen to it there.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Observation of proximity to sex- Acknowledgement of mutual attraction
Now here is a critical juncture. I didn?ft ask her if she?fd like to come up, I

didn?ft suggest it as an idea, I simply took her concession that she?fd like to

hear the music and applied it to the reality that the only way we?fll be able to

have that happen is for her to come up to my room. Of course, she knows what the

real idea is, Zovirax for sale, but she?fs a chick and needs a context other than ?glet?fs go

upstairs to fuck.?h Secondly, I didn?ft hesitate. I simply went into LEAD mode.

I get out of my stool, and say ?gOK, let?fs go listen to it upstairs?h and

started walking and leading her physically by using TokyoPUA?fs KAMI (Kino

Anchor Motion Inducement) method - I basically touch her on the arm where I

anchored before and nudge her along with me, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. Between that and the break state of

immediate motion, she can?ft help but want to come along with no resistance.
We start walking and she just turns to her friend who had a brief look of

?gwhere are you going?h confusion on her face and signals that it?fs OK and I

say to TokyoPUA something about ?glistening to music?h (whether he heard or not

didn?ft matter to get things moving).
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- No excuses leading- Don?ft ask, tell- Use of KAMI
In the elevator, I make fun of her a little and make a joke about the elevators

being too fast. Take her to my room and when we get in I use another TokyoPUA

tactic - no immediate f close attempt.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Instead, treat the chick like a ?gguest?h

and have her sit somewhere while you futz around with other stuff, making her

wonder ?gDoes he want to fuck me or not??h You know you?fre going to make a move

so there?fs no harm, it just heightens her own desires but also creates a

feeling of added safety since you?fre not acting like a sex-starved maniac (even

if you are!) I play with the Clie' and an awesome set of portable speakers I

bought while we were in Japan, and start to get the music going. At this point,

she got playful and went to hide behind the window curtains, so I pulled her

out, started dancing with her, online buy Zovirax without a prescription, did the DyD hair-sniffing thing for a bit, then

began tonguing her down. Lead her to the bed, got on top of her, and I start

taking things further when I hear her say some confusing words (at least for

that moment). She started saying ?gfriend?c we go downstairs first?h?c Huh. I

thought she was laying some bullshit on like LJBF or some such crud so I just

play a bit and say, ?gYeah, we shouldn?ft be up here doing this?c etc.?h And

then I realize she?fs talking about her friend so I say ?gYou?fre friend will be

fine, and my friend knows what room I?fm in, in case she needs to find you.?h

Finally, she says she left her cell phone & purse downstairs with her friend.

DOH, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.  Buy cheap Zovirax no rx, In the act of getting this chick moved up to my room quickly, I?fd completely

phased about her leaving anything down at the bar. So I get up off her and say

that we can go downstairs to get her stuff and come back up soon. She says yes,

we?fll come back up. OK, it did become a loss risk at this point but, then

again, it would also have been an obstacle to both TokyoPUA?fs situation and

myself to get her to leave the cell/purse with her friend.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, I just decided to get

her concession, ala Cialdini principle, that she wanted to come back upstairs

and we were just going down for a little bit so she could collect her cell/purse

and let her friend know she was going to be OK.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Self-control, enhancing comfort/trust- Dealing with possible logistic fuck-up calmly- Pre-conditioning a concession, getting verbal acceptance
We go back downstairs and see TokyoPUA a bit relieved as for the last couple

minutes he was thinking ?gobstacles?h when HBLucyLiu noticed her friend?fs

cell/purse still there. My chick collects her stuff and says she?fll be right

back (probably a restroom stop). I hang back and TokyoPUA does a Mr, buy no prescription Zovirax online. Smooth for

me on his chick saying ?gThey look like they like each other.?h I reciprocate

the same thing ?gYou two look like you?fre also getting along.?h My chick comes

back and dances some more for me between my legs. More blatantly sexual kino

from me, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.
I turn to the bar and see my beer is still there, I take a sip, and notice a

couple of empty classes on the corner of the bar - a large glass and a small

champagne goblet. I do a little visual imagery trick with HBFriendofLucyLiu by

pointing at the glasses and saying, ?gOne is female and one is male, I bet you

won?ft guess which is which.?h Of course, she points at the big glass and says

that?fs the male and the feminine-looking smaller goblet is the female. So I

told her she was wrong and proceeded to show her why by picking up the goblet

and placing it IN the bigger glass. She got it & chuckled.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Then she leans into

me and says ?gIt?fs so hot down here, I need a shower.?h So I tell her she can

take a shower in my room?c but not yet. Then I gave her a nickname and she gave

me one based on my chubby cheeks (my face not my ass) and started squeezing my

cheeks in a funny way and we all had a laugh over that. It?fs good to show a

chick that you can be playful.  Zovirax from canadian pharmacy, If done after already acting sexual, then even

better.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Reverse teasing
I forget exactly the series of events that happened next, but it just involved

taking her on the dance floor for a bit of close/grinding dancing, not for too

long, just enough to get her juices flowing even more. When we got off the

floor, she noticed her friend & TokyoPUA went out on the terrace area, so I

figured that might be a good final environment before taking her back up to my

room, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. But I didn?ft want to interrupt TokyoPUA?fs game, so I used KAMI again to

lead my chick away from that table as we walked by them and said ?gThey look

like they?fre into something on their own there, let?fs not bother them - let?fs

go over there.?h I take her to a table on the other side of the terrace.
When we sat at the table, I realized that I totally forgot my chick?fs name and

it would probably be a good idea to know it. But instead of risking a loss of

rapport, I pulled out the life-saving Clie' again and loaded up my PalmaSutra

app (an app with drawings of sexual positions) and was joking about how much use

the app got. Then I paused and told her that I didn?ft know how to spell her

name, buy Zovirax without a prescription, switched to a memo application and asked her to spell it.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Boom, got her

name. I guess the PalmaSutra inspired her, because when I started asking her

about her colorful cell phone, she navigated to a few menus and pulled up a

little 4-frame video of a chick getting banged from behind. I chuckled and

started pointing at all the Korean guys sitting around in the terrace area,

telling her that they probably didn?ft know how to do that right and that we?fll

be able to practice upstairs in a little while. Then I talked about how porn for

men is different than porn for women - I asked her if she knew what porn for

women was. I was surprised that she knew the answer: romance novels. I forget if

I did anything with that topic?c not important at this stage, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Use of technology/gadget to help with rapport- Use of technology/gadget to heighten sexual anticipation- Self-control through the realization I will have her, not if but when
I wanted to leave the terrace at this point so I get her up but on our way out

she stops at the table with TokyoPUA & her friend. I sit down and figure we?fll

wrap this up in a few minutes and finally get these chicks upstairs. I do a

standard routine of mine where I describe the act of drawing from life, Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, turns

out my chick is going to school for industrial design and is a good artist

herself. I use that as additional rapport (but really, rapport is overkill by

now, doesn?ft hurt to create more) and also use it as an additional reason for

sensual kino, by drawing lines around the edges of her body with my fingers.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Her

cell phone rings in the middle of this and she responds to it, but hangs up

after a minute. Then I use something I learned from Yates Canipe at a recent SS

seminar regarding cell phones. I tell her that I appreciate that she kept the

call short, people who are able to do that while with others show a clear

consideration for who they?fre with. That sets up a psychological frame where,

if they get another call, it gets kept short. Additionally, if you want a chick

to turn her cell phone off, take out yours and tell her ?gI?fm turning my cell

phone off.?h She?fll get the hint and reciprocate, where can i buy cheapest Zovirax online.
TokyoPUA noticed that HBFriendofLucyLiu?fs cell phone was able to play music

tunes and asked her to play some music from the phone, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. She ends up playing an

Usher tune (some kind of crappy midi version) which I happened to have as part

of my MP3 tracks that I could play on the Clie'. I told her that and said we

could listen to it up in the room. Of course, that is recalling a frame that she

already accepted before and knew the outcome of and right around then everyone

agreed it was time to go.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Recalling conditioned concession
One potential glitch - at this point I realized I forgot my wallet up in my

room.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, Normally, that wouldn?ft be an issue, but my room key was also in the

wallet. However, I happened to have my passport in my other pocket so I decided

to use my forgetfulness as an advantage to help make sure TokyoPUA & I can

definitely split the chicks up on the way upstairs. I turned to my chick and

told her we?fll have to stop by the front desk so I can get an extra key. I tell

TokyoPUA the same thing so he?fs up on what?fs going on, but HBLucyLiu is left

in the dark about it. On the way towards the rooms, TokyoPUA & I lead the chicks

through the longer path, which leads us past the front desk. As I lead my chick

to the front desk to wait for me to get another key, TokyoPUA continues leading

his chick towards the elevators, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. The chicks are now totally split off; I get an

extra key in about 20 seconds, and am leading my chick back up to my room to

close the deal. No pretenses when we got back up to the room, we were fucking

within 2 minutes of getting there.
She came back to the hotel 2 nights later for more fucking. I just gave her a

time & told her to show up at my room.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, She was there 2 minutes early and there

was no pretense, just went right to fucking.
Review of toolbox aspects made use of this stage:- Recovering from a second logistic error and making it work in everyone?fs

favor
General lessons to pay attention to in this PU/seduction:- Always maintain a positive state.

- When in doubt, pace the ongoing reality. When unsure of an action, choose the

option that leads.

- Never apologize for who you are, never hesitate on an action. Hesitation

creates an aura of insecurity, Buy Zovirax No Prescription. Chicks don?ft feel safe with guys who are

insecure.

- Always initiate kino, quickly, even if it?fs light.

- Always escalate kino when you can.

- Always work fast towards a kiss.  Buy Zovirax No Prescription, A subtle kiss can always be escalated to a

deeper kiss. - A deeper kiss can always be escalated to a tongue down. You must

tongue down a chick before you ever expect to fuck her.

- Creating sexual imagery and anchoring those images to yourself is vital to

heightening a chick?fs attraction to you.

- Use information from a chick to determine the best course of action on how to

lay her.  - - Then condition her to want to match your preferences, Buy Zovirax No Prescription.

- You can use linear PU plans as a default, but practice being able to see

multiple options ahead, and be able to change course of action as long as you

are still able to lead towards your intended goal.

- Well-placed SOIs are almost as good as kino.

- Never move laterally if you can move things forward instead. Always be judging

proximity to sex and what path of a conversation will lead you towards your

goal.
--

jay [formhandle@fastseduction.com]
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Subject: Re: Outing report: Ms. Black Hotpants; golddigger evasion;

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action..detonation!.

>990529>Outing report: Ms. Black Hotpants; golddigger evasion; and anti>supplication..then detonation!..a dating disaster (for her. ;-) )
I read ahead.  This was a dating disasterall right.., Buy Tramadol No Prescription. FOR YOU.  detailsfollow.

>Hi all;>>Today?s outing is with Miss HB  Hotpants,22 Y.O, a ?9. or ?10?>(one of the chicks from 15 phone numbers and 4 kiss closes), who (to my>surprise), did show up for her date, to my surprise.   Buy Tramadol No Prescription, There would be NO surprise at a chick showing up for a date if you were SUREthat you had demonstrated personality and value to her when you met that placedyou above the average Joe.  If you were sure that you made a connection withher that made her interested in seeing YOU again (not just going out on a date)you would not have been surprised that she came out because it would have beenin her own best interests.

>Okay, Tramadol over the counter, HB hotpants was a  golddigger chick it turns out. I did blow her>out half way through the date as a reuslt (was very funny; see below!),>but still the advice I am looking here, is how to do quick detection>and early removal of such chicks (in hind site, there were a few clues,>but this could be done better I think), to minimize the loss of>time/effort money, or to get her to respect you in a different way at>first so she doesn?t even try shit like this (I can say though, from>what I can tell, I was the first guy I think to not supplicate and blow>her out like this..more on that later?as I said, this story, though not>a lay, is an awesome learning opporutinty in its own way?).>>First, the summary (and then the story, Order Tramadol, from start to end). The chick,>was an HB, very cute. We had date..movie, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. 
STOP RIGHT THERE.  Why are you DATING a chick that you're not FUCKING.  Youfucked up from the beginning.  As I mentioned earlier, you didn't sufficientlydemonstrate personality to her, so why was she going out with you.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, To dostuff... at YOUR EXPENSE.  She did not come out to kiss you, not to hold YOURhand.  Her being with you had nothing to do with YOU.  I am not attacking you,but you need to be able to detect where you stand with a chick, Tramadol samples, and certainlyNOT dating them before you fuck them.  Ask them to MEET YOU somewhere forCOFFEE, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  At the most, you buy them A coffee and lose whatever, 3 bucks gettingto know what she is willing to give you.  After that, fuck her THEN take herout as a rewardfor good behavior.  What were you rewarding her with a movieand dinner for.  For accepting your invitation to come outside her house.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, Forgracing YOU with her presence, she deserves stuff.  NO.  Until you demonstratevalue and make the connection with her, you can ASSUME that anyone that askedher to go out that night would have had her with them... and they would havebeen paying too.

>We decided, we would then go>to supper, Where can i buy Tramadol online, and then go drinking after.  
That's a whole lot of time and money to be spent on a chick that you don't knowANYTHING about, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. Chekc in the newsletters or something about why dating chicksbefore fucking them is like gambling.

>Allright, the beginning, I met Hotpants chick in a bar with Mr. Smooth>last weekend. Read the details of "15 phone numbers and 4 kiss closes">for how I got her, and what happened that day.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, Okay, now one detail I>forgot, which turns out is important. At one night in the bar, when we>were holding each other..etc, she wanted a pizza, so she got up and>waited for me, and we went to the other end to get Pizza for everyone.>We ordered it, and when the pizza came, she didn?t gesture anything>about paying money. I hadn?t thought about it, where can i order Tramadol without prescription, as it was for everyone>anyways, so I paid it and we went down. She also asked for a drink, but>we had lots of tickets on the table from the admission, so that was>fine, it didn?t really cost anything.
You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.  Since she was standing there with you, she SHOULDhave gestured to pay half of it or at least for the portion she planend to eat(with the intention that everyone else chip in when you get back to the table)

You should have acted like you didn't bring your wallet by accident and toldher "Pay for it and I'll give you my half when we get back to the table"  Shewould have meta-stated right out while she figured out a way to get you to payfor everything.  You would have seen her looking confused and you would NOThave seen her get out any money, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  She would have told you to go back and getyour wallet.  You then would have known what kind of chick this is and only toinvite her to your house for DRINKS and FUCKING.

>Okay, fast forward to this afternoon. We meet; she said that she wanted>to see a movie, but I could choose, Buy cheapest Tramadol, so we saw the flick, and I bought>her ticket (is this okay guys.  Seems reasonable I think). Buy Tramadol No Prescription, NO THIS IS NOT OK.  It was her idea to see the movie.  You and she are notfucking.  There is no reason that you should pay for ANYTHING of hers.  If youwent out with a male friend of yours, would you pay for HIM to get in thetheater.  NO, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  Until she is putting out, treat her like one of the fellas.  Ifshe wants shit paid for, let her know the fucking rules.  I only pay for shitfor chicks that suck my dick on a regular basis (or whatever it is that youlike from chicks)  She can then either get with the program, get her fuckingmoney out and pay since she doesn't want to sex you, or get the fuck out ofdodge.  I'll tell you what...  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, if a chick would rather pay for a movie thanagree to fucking later, dump her right there.  Fuck the movie.., where can i find Tramadol online. go pick upother chicks.

>There was an hour before the movie, so we had some time. She said in>the meantime, she wanted to go shopping (I say fine). We head to a dept>store, and she starts looking at chick stuff (uh oh, supplication>evasive action needed), so after she buys somthing, I tell her I need a>guys necklace, and I want to get that, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. She says fine, and says that she>will follow me. From then, till the movie, we now shop for my stuff.>That is good, now I am leading her again.
I don't understand the usefulness of this shopping business.  Maybe you arethinking this has something to do with pacing and leading.  Not that I wouldever be in this situation since I don't like to gamble with my money at all,but if I were...  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, I would have taken her someplace where I could get my handson her and start massaging her or SOMETHING getting me closer to the goal ofhaving my dick in her mouth.  Buy Tramadol without a prescription, A park, a bar, the movie theater bathroom...

SOMETHING.  If she wasn't interested in petting or kissing or whatever... dumpher, go find other chicks.  Do you know how many chicks you could have met inthe hour and a half that you watched that movie, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.

>As we walk around, I start my repetroire of questions, to start to get>her talking about passion and guy stuff.  It is very hard, when I ask>her her favorite actor, she say no one particular. I ask her her>favorite clubs, she says everywhere I like. It was like this, buy Tramadol in canada, for most>things I asked, so I couldn?t get an anchor in, or get anything>started.   Buy Tramadol No Prescription, If she is not a talker, she is a listener.  As soon as she didn't want to tellyou shit, you should have told her thta you have a friend that... and told herthe story about the chick you tied up.  If you can't elicit feelings, usequotes or any other style to MAKE HER think about fucking and sucking.

>She did respond okay to me touching her now and then though with noresistance.
Not good enough, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  Touching her now and then.  You have her ISOLATED.  You arein SEX MODE from the second you pick her up or the two of you meet.  Touchingher now and then at this stage is way to opassive.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, The only point of askingher out is getting physical with her.  Otherwise, Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, stay on the phone.  It's likeGreg said.  He sets it all up on AOL from the privacy of his home, then meetsthem after it is all set up. It's too late at this point for all that highschool, can I touch your breast shit.

>Before the film starts, she asks me what I am doing this evening, and I>say I haven?t made particular plans yet.
VERY VERY VERY bad sign, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  What does she mean what are you doing this evening.

To me that says "I have no intention of spending any more time with you than wediscussed".  That's ridiculous.  If she had really been into YOU, she wouldhave been hoping and praying that you didn't have anything else to do tonight,so she could be with YOU for as much time as you would give her.

>She tells me she has an Buy Tramadol No Prescription, >appointment with her chick friend, and would I like to join then (this>was strange, I posted a thread a while ago, about what to do when>chicks brings their friends uninvited, but there was no real>conclusion, except not to supplicate and be the nice guy who pays for>everything for her and her friends, as in such a situation there is>zero chance to lay the chick, chicks dont lay guys who supplicate).>>But this was different (it seemed), she said she already had the>appointment, (why she booked an appointment the same day as a date I>dunno, though I guess now I do ;-) ), and was asking me to join them.>So I said fine, I will join the both of them.
TOTALLY FUCKED UP.  You HAD her isolated.  Now you are going back into thesituation where the chicks don't want to look like sluts in front of theirfriends.  I would never have gone for this.  First she asks what you aredoing.., purchase Tramadol online no prescription. implying that she is going to do something without you, then she tellsyou what she is going to do without you, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  Again, this would never happen to mebecause by this point in the date, I would have been all over her to the pointwhere she would not have been interested in meeting her girlfriend, or shewould have left me alone.  A date is for physical contact.  If you had beenmore aggressive, you would have either scared her off or made her get with it.

I also don't feel from your posts (though I could be wrong since I don't knowyou) that you are aggressive enough to pull TWO of these chicks at the sametime.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, Not attacking your skills, but you were having a hard enough time withthis one, and you were now ADDING another one in that you enver even met.  Youare ADDING AN OBSTACLE.  You may as well have conceded not fucking her rightthere IMO.

>We watch the movie, it was okay. The film ends, and she goes to the>bathroom (without asking, Online buy Tramadol without a prescription, just she goes?I notice this is strange). 
It is not strange, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  WHO ARE YOU.  See what you get for not demonstratingpersonality.  You are the money-source.  There is no reason to tell yourpocketbook or wallet when you are going to the bathroom...  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, you just go.

>Then we head out, and she fails my arm holding a-la french promenade test>(she lightly rejects it). My experience here is that this is a very>tiny intrusion, and chicks who reject this, I never get to lay. This is>very bad, and I get concerned.
Now you're getting it :)>We get to the bus to go from Shibuya (where the film was), to Roppongi,>where she said she was meeting her friend. She gets on the bus, and>here is my first fuckup which I notice (maybe?), order Tramadol from mexican pharmacy. She gets on the bus>and waits for me to pay the busfare, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. So I did (bad..ouch?though at>first glance I figure I shouldn?t. think about paying bus fare, it is>only $1.50 anyways, but the gesture (and that it was too cheap for her,>should have clued me in). 
I said earlier... don't pay for ANYTHING.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, That bitch has a job.  She hasenough money to buy miniskirts and go shopping earlier, but she doesn't havemoney for the bus.  She is treating you like a suitor, but you're not gettingany of the benefits of being a suitor.  She has constantly been playing you fora sucker.

>OKAY; MOMENT OF TRUTH #1?how would you guys>have handled this (remember, you are on a bus, Buy Tramadol from mexico, in  front of the driver,>and folks behind you in line, so scene making here is not really>possible. Only thing I could think of is tell her, she has to pay to>ride the bus (at which point, it probably is best I just get off the>bus, since the date is dead anyways?).
Pay for your fare and walk to the back and SIT THE FUCK DOWN, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  She has toeither come up with the cash or get off the bus.  If she asks you to pay forit... refer to the rules I mentioned about paying for the movie.. she's trappedagain.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, PAY OR PLAY.

>Now, before, you jump on me for supplicating, the reason I did this, is>cuz a couple months ago, another chick did the exact same thing, and I>did lay her that night anyways?so I figured that maybe it was okay>since its only $1.50, and it got me laid once anyways.. So this is no>so clear cut, Tramadol pharmacy, like the arm-ala french promenade test.
Yeah it is.  Treated like a suitor, but you don't get any kissing, sucking orfucking.  It is definitely a test.  You pay if she plays, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  PERIOD.

>Okay, so we ride the bus. Now an amusing thing happens. A guy calls her>on her phone, who I guess tried to get into her panties a few weeks>ago, but failed.   Buy Tramadol No Prescription, AHA.  Why is her phone on if she is so interested in being with you.  I alwayshave my cel on.  Buy Tramadol online no prescription, People call me for stuff and I change plans mid-stream.  Whena chick is annoyed enough to ask me who called or if anything came up, I cantell that she wants my time for herself.  If I feel the same way, then I turnit off to show her that I am committed to her.., Buy Tramadol No Prescription. for the time being :)>She tells him he was rude (guess, he walked her home,>andthen didn?t want to leave after she insisted), and wont give up. I>gesture to her to give me the phone, so I take it, and say "Hello; and>the guy says hello; and I say, sorry; she?s taken!";; that was funny.
Yeah, pretty funny.
Now, when this SAMURAI hacks you to fucking pieces for mouthing off to him,we'll see how funny it was :(You don't know who was on the other line.  That could have been some mob boss, rx free Tramadol.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, He might have known where she was eating dinner that night.  She may have hadplans to fuck him after you paid for her night on the town.  You also usedyourself as a neg-hit on the other guy, so now he will do more work to get thechick than before.  I will say again, you put yourself in the place of thesuitor, and you got NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER.  You even said "she's taken".  Youhad no claim on her at all at that point because you were not physical enoughto tell what you were going to get from her, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.

>Otherwise, conversation is good, she says that she was out everynight>this week, and it was fun (she was wearing a super micro mini BTW,>today, and I have to say it was very nice), and drank a lot..  Buy Tramadol no prescription, She did>hand shaking, and stuff; it was good.
Get a clue.  The chick is out every night.  This is no home-body.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, She is notgoing to be impressed by anything that you are doing for her tonight, becauseanother guy did the same routine last night and another the night before.  It'slike when guys get to fuck drunk chicks.  She fucked you because she was hornyand you were there.  It was nothing that you did yourself.  All this paradingaround and movies and buses and dinners are throwaways.  All you needed to dois sit her down for coffee and captura and lead her imagination, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.

>We get to Roppongi, where we meet her friend, and Hotpants HB asks me>where I would like to go eat (this was odd I thought), so I pick an>italian place I like nearby. We go there, she picks up her friend on>the way. Her friend is cute, nice, where can i buy cheapest Tramadol online, but more shy. Seems like a nice>girl.>>We have a nice supper and talk, I do my palm reading pattern, and that>works well, get some hand holding and all that.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, Then, something>happens, which tells me what?s going to come next (that this date is>done, and they are about to be blown out?and I was write).
Again, it is too late in the game for gimmicks and patterns.  You saw episode 1by now.  Anakin got to the enemy cruiser on autopilot, then R2 cut him looseand he blew up the ship on his own.  Eventually, you have to work off ofnatural skill and instinct.  Now that you have added this other chick, youREALLY should have been concentrating on disarming obstacles.

>We were joking about her drinking nights, and I joked lightly, that she>goes meeting guys, and has them buy her drinks, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. She said yes, in a>smirky kind of way.  Tramadol from canadian pharmacy, Now I was expecting trouble, because, this means>that she probably was expecting me to buy her and her friend (who I>didn?t invite) supper. I get ready for the blowup and how to handle it.>She notices my face change, and asks me is something wrong. I snap out>of it after a moment, and get normal, and running the patterns, and>stuff again, and things are normal (hey, I might just be wrong, and>everything will be okay..so I stay positive, but prepare for the>worst).
Back on autopilot huh.

 Buy Tramadol No Prescription, >Supper finishes, and now the blowup happens. The bill comes, and I tell>everyone how much they owe (actually, my intention was to tell everyone>how much they owe, Tramadol for sale, and then when my chick HB Hotpants took her money>out, I would quietly gesture that she (but not her friend) didn?t have>to pay (why should I pay for her friend. I didn?t invite her!).
weak weak weak.  Didn't you see where this ceased to be a date.  I mean itnever was a date, REALLY.  She was hanging out with you and milking you, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  Assoon as she added her friend in it was really over.  Everyone needed to pay forher own shit.  PERIOD.

>But, then they tried to tell me they had no money (I figure that HB>hotpants, told her friend that I would be paying for everything).  At Buy Tramadol No Prescription, >this point, I knew it was blown and didn?t care anymore; I asked them>again that they have to pay their share; and the guy was waiting. They>said they didn?t have any money.
Look how you got played.  hahaha didn't you say that just earlier you WENTSHOPPING WITH HER.  Online buying Tramadol, Did she mention to you when you were shopping that shespent her last dollar on what she bought.  If not, she was lying.  What kind ofbitches are these anyway that come outside without any money, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.
You SHOULD have told the waiter to go back where he came from and come backwith seperate checks.  You should have itemized your portion and paid your owncheck and walked out, leaving those bitches there to rot.  They either wouldhave washed the fucking chopsticks all night or paid for their shit.

>Now I paid the bill (not to supplicate to the chicks; as I blew them>out instantly and in their faces once we got outside, boy were they>embarrassed?, but it is a restaurant I frequent often, my reputation is>important there and I didn?t want to make such a scene in front of the>staff and patrons, as I do wish to return again, and be treated well as>I always am, when I go there with someone else.).
Your rep ios fine as long as you pay for what YOU bought...  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, no more.

>We got out the door, and I let her have it totally, order Tramadol no prescription. Her friend was at>first confused, and then horrified as I explained what her friend at>just done. I told her that I wasn?t an easy guy, and wasn?t going to>supplicate to her like this, just because she tramps around in a mini,>and although the friend seemed like a nice person, I wasn?t going to be>expected to be the bank, and pay for her and all of her friends>adventures.
but that's EXACTLY what happened isn't it.

>I went on to tell her, that I paid the bill only for respect of the>restaurant as I go often, and that she did an bad, selfish thing, and>that I was going home, and they can go do whatever they want without>me; that I wouldn?t stand for this sort of thing, Purchase Tramadol online, and I have enough>esteem to just say no. I told her, I have no problem to pay for a date>when I take a girl out, but I have a big problem if she expects to>bring all her uninvited friends and have me pay for them too
If it had been a DATE you would have had a good point there, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.

>HB hotpants (who probably is used to supplication, and never had this>happen before), was shocked, and her friend was horrified at what she>saw happened, and my massive mood change from inside.
Let's see:
YOUR VERBAL ATTACK < YOUR MONEY SPENT.

YOUR VERBAL ATTACK = YOUR MONEY SPENT.

YOUR VERBAL ATTACK > YOUR MONEY SPENT.
you see how your money was already spent by the time you "caught" these chicks.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, You could have cut her off at the movies, or even better, never promised hermovies and shit in order to LURE HER into hanging out with you.  If yourcompany is good enough, you can go somewhere free and quiet where you can getrefreshments and have a good time together.  It's that simple.  Does that makesense.

>I told her (and her friend heard); that I was a good, guy, and always>treated a woman well when I was with them, buy generic Tramadol, but  I would not let myself>be taken advatange of, and if she thought so, then she was too cheap a>girl for me, and she could go find someone else to be her bank account>cuz it sure wasn?t going to be me. I also said that she might think she>is so cute that she thinks she can make a guy supplicate to her all>night and pay for everything for her and her friends, but with me it>wasn?t so, and she wasn?t that cute that she could pull that with me,>and even if she was, I was a not an easy guy, I don?t supplicate like>the other guys she meets, and it wouldn?t work with me.
did she ITEMIZE the amount of money you spent on her (and on yourself becauseyou were out with her) as a counter point, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.

>Her friend just stood there in shock as I chewed out HB hotpants on the>street in front of the restaurant; probably never having seen such a>demonstration of anti supplication in her life (and the respect I>showed for the restaurant, but not to HB hotpants after her deed). Her>friend probably never saw a guy tell HB Hotpants off like this,>thinking she was so cute no guy would ever dare. Well I had no problem>doing so.>Then I said bye; turned around; and left..
Should have happened at the movie.  I guarantee you she would NEVER have paidto get in.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, She also would not have fucked you that night, because she hadplans to go clubbing with her girlfriend that night like every other night.

Now you kow how it works.  No dates before FUCKING.

>Okay, a couple things?first;; guys?look, Buy Tramadol online cod, the reason she was expecting>this, is because probably every other guy she ever went out with, when>faced with this situation; supplicated to HB Hotpants because she is>cute. But look!; once you supplicate..you lose?she will never fuck>you?.ever.. 
You have demonstrated this.., Buy Tramadol No Prescription. but all is not lost.  If she calls you after yourtantrum, she is crawling back to you in a very bad position.  You can thenchoose not to speak to her again as punishment, or make her your fucky-suckyslave so she can make amends.  Ever is a long time.

>And when you do this (let a chick try and steamroll you Buy Tramadol No Prescription, >this way..even if she is a 10), you will lose all your money, your>time, AND SHE WILL NEVER FUCK YOU. I know this, and that is why I>instantly cut her out, and cut her down, once she tried this. 
Not exactly.  You instantly cut her out as soon as you FIGURED OUT she wastrying this, buy no prescription Tramadol online.  She was getting over all night.  You should have remained calmand told them to walk with you and taken them directly ro a fucking ATM anddemanded your money back, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  If they didn't produce it, THEN you should havethrown the tantrum.  The only things you escaped paying for that night = allthree bus fare to the club, all three club entry cover charge, all three drinksall night, cab to the friend's house where the HB would have gotten out too andyou would have gotten a kiss on the cheek goodnight, and your lonely cab ridehome alone.

>We never>went to the second bar, (which she probably expected me to pay for too,>for her and her friend(s?) ), so just I got straight out of there after>I finished chewing her out, and embarassing her in front of everyone>and her friend in the street in front of the restaurant.
Good.

>The lessons here..>>HB hotpants was (genuinely I think), Tramadol price, expecting that I would let myself>get taken advanatage of, like every other guy, and she was going to>show how great a guy I was to all her friends, and how she could get me>to supplicate for her and do her beck and call because she is so cute?>Heck, maybe she even thinks this is (egads!) acceptable behavior, just>because so many guys supplicate to her that she got used to it.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, So,>lesson..supplication is bad..BAD, don?t do this. You ruin it for>yourself, and the next guys after that, cuz she gets used to all the>supplication, and not having to fuck for it..
Now you're learning :)  By the way, her behavior is completely acceptable.

Anyone that falls for her shit has himself to blame.  She is using what she'sgot to get what she wants.  Nothing wrong with that.  Just make sure you kowwhat you're doing when you play in the big leagues.., Buy Tramadol No Prescription. or at least learn thesigns to recognize the big-time female players.

>Anyways, buy cheap Tramadol no rx, back to the story?(well, I tell you, now her friends KNOW>how great a guy I am, cuz I stood up to her, right in her face, in>front of her friends..and told her off, and why, and that she was too>cheap for me, and I had no respect for her at all; anymore?I am miles>above her in rank now, and if her friend ever sees me again, boy will>she respect me (I am pretty sure HB?s  friend was not in on this game,>just the unknowning victim HB Hotpants. misguided showoff attempt;>judging from her confusion, and reaction once I explained it)..just she>wanted to show me off.  Order Tramadol online c.o.d, .so now anyways, her friend knows that I AM a>great guy, respect a girl, but I dont take shit and I don?t supplicate,>and I will respect the restaurant, if not them.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, So in the end, I won?
won what.  I am serious.  Please elaborate how you spent your money and yelledat a Japanese chick at the end of the night and that is a win.  I agree thatyou won from the time you stopped losing money to this female player, but Ican't see how you WON this situation, except for the fact that you have areally good set of things to look for to see where a chick is playing you formoney, and we all get to learn from your situation.

>Okay, now, time to learn from this..your opinions guys..realitically,>what are some tests, I can put on a chick to find this out very early>on; with a very high accuracy, before I waste an afternoon, and do the>movie thing/supper. (I know there were some signs, above; but as I>said, they were not clear cut, and I did shag chicks in similar>situations (except for the supper thing?I never ever shagged a chick>who by surprise decided she wanted to bring a friend to supper).
you don't need TESTS, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  Just watch what's going on around you.  When she goes toa cookie store, does she get out her puse and pay 35 cents for a cookie.  Ordoes she cuddle on your arm and say "buy me a cookie?" smiling at you and allcute, then forgetting about you after you buy it.  The most I will buy a chickis a coffee at the shop I tell her to meet me at.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, If she doesn't offer to buythe next round, or pay me for hers, she'd fucking MARKED.

>Ideas?opinions. Constructive comments on how I can do this better the>next time (no flames please), and other ways of detection/detterance?>>Finally, my major fuckup, is that somehow, I should have let her known>early on, and subtlly, that I don?t supplicate, and not to even try>such a stunt with me. I want her to know very early on, that she is>meeting me because she potentially wants to fuck me (or is willing to),>and that there is no possibility whatsoever that I will supplicate to>her like all the other guys do..>>How do I do this guys?
No dating before fucking.  More phone conversation.  More personalitydemonstration, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.  More connection creation.  You have a good grasp of the basicrules.  Use them :)>What could I have done (early on), to have her respect me (before the>dinner blow up), and not think about even trying a stunt like she>tried?so that I could have shagged her after all (I mean hey, she>does shag guys sometimes).>>(so weekend tally. 1 fuck; 1 blowup?.okay I guess?.)>>Opinions guys.  Buy Tramadol No Prescription, (oh. Remember, .this is a learning experience, and>since there was not a lay at the end, I already know there were>fuckups?so lets be constructive on the comments/criticisms?)..>okay?let?er rip!>>Maniac High
Great post maniac :)
I got a lot of practice cutting this bitch up while replying.  The stuff youput here set off BLARING alarms for me.  I have seen all that shit... including"buy me a cookie".  You'd better believe I told that bitch BUY YOURSELF ACOOKIE.  and the "date" continued as if it was never mentioned :)

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Today I had HB geek over at my place. Although I didntget a freak out, Ultram over the counter, Buy Ultram no prescription, she was very frigid, so once I realizedwhat was going on, order Ultram no prescription, Online buying Ultram, and that I was making no/negativeprogress, I immediately ejected her for being uncooperative, buy Ultram from mexico, Ultram from canadian pharmacy, and frigid to any approach I was making. Fuckshe was cold, Buy Ultram No Prescription. I was half expecting this though becauseshe had been over here once before, rx free Ultram, Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, and did the samething. Following NYC's advice, buy Ultram online no prescription, Buy Ultram online cod, I gave her one more chance,and then instant vaporization if she doesnt get withthe program after I explain the program to her (which Idid the last time she was here, buy no prescription Ultram online, Where can i order Ultram without prescription, and it (mistakenly) seemedshe was clear about).
After that I thought what I could do better in such asituation., where can i buy Ultram online.  Ultram pharmacy, Then I came up with the '3 no's rule'.  Buy Ultram No Prescription, When a chick is freezing up (and is looking like freak-outmaterial), one thing I found can work is to stop allphysical contact, and start story telling, and qualifyingher feelings. Stories about romance, order Ultram, Where can i buy cheapest Ultram online, security, and allthat, online buy Ultram without a prescription, Buy Ultram in canada, with normal '1st date' start level kino.

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On the other hand, a worse thing would have been to endurethe whole video and her frigidness. Doing that would have gottenme an 'F' score.  Buy Ultram No Prescription, Better was immediate ejection, which is OKbut not the whole effort above, so that rates a 'C'. I feel Icould have gotten an 'A' (lay) or 'B' (good try though no lay)score, if I had done the above with her. The j-nanpa videos alsodo it this way if the chicks freeze up when arriving atthe guys place they wear her down by talking and stories ofgood feelings and all that shit, and then go for it. That seemsto work some of the time, though admittedly, this is damagecontrol territory.
So now I learned a new way to deal with this situationeven if I didn't lay HB geek, so at least it was an educationalexperience.
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Allright, Clomid price, here we go..
The Catwoman is a 24 yr old very bright (though not so pretty)young lady. She is a psych.  Buy Clomid No Prescription, Major, and seems to understandpsychology as well as chick logic thoroughly. My GF even admitsthat she feels very comfortable around her, even though she's neverlez'd with her (she says ;-) ), australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal. Catwoman has a strong character, is a player andusually has several chicks on the go at once.. Her GF's are oftenvery beautiful BTW..  Buy generic Clomid, So, what is Catwoman's system. Well, she plays a lot on theworries, and anxieties of chicks (and since she is a chick too, she knowswhat all these are), then applies stealth kino (see below for details),so integrates pleasurable feelings with intellectual security, and atthat point can get an attachment with the chick, Buy Clomid No Prescription. Then, grow the kinobit by bit, and she's got a friend to lez with., where can i buy cheapest Clomid online.
Now, some things about her system, before I go into the details.  Buy Clomid from mexico, First of all, she can't do this at SS speeds, mainly because of thelez' barrier (it is hard to get a chick to fall in love with a chick in 1 weekif she was never interested (overtly) in chicks to start with). Shesays it takes about 1 month to 3 months (depending on the chick).  Buy Clomid No Prescription, So first she meets the chick. She doesn't say she is a lesbian, Clomid from canadian pharmacy, orher intentions with the chick. There is no sex talk at all, whatsoever..  Clomid over the counter, Atthat point, she finds out all about them, and especially what theirinsecurities are (ie. Job, do they think they are pretty, buy no prescription Clomid online, worthwhile,smart, legs too fat, Online buy Clomid without a prescription, too thin..etc..etc, whatever).  Cute girls alwayshave tons of insecurities, so you just have to find out what they are, Buy Clomid No Prescription.

She approaches this, as she were an elder, or mother to the girls, purchase Clomid online no prescription. Atthat point, she will often talk to them, and tell them she isworried/was worried about (whatever..job..etc), Order Clomid no prescription, since last time theytalked, which apparently grows their attachment. Also, she will tellthem they are cute, not in a guy way, order Clomid, but as a confidence builderway (ie. You are cute, you are good enough.etc..etc), Online buying Clomid, and how shewill take care of them, protect them.  Buy Clomid No Prescription, This will go on for a while,playing on the insecurities of the chick.
Then, the stealth Kino will start. Her gimmick is to start kidding withthe chick that she is a cat or kitten (chicks just totally love cats), where can i find Clomid online.

The first few times, she'll just talk how she is cute like acat (note, that by comparing to a cat, Buy Clomid online no prescription, there is nothing sexual in thetalk.it is cute in a chick's way, like pretty flowers, or whatever, sothe chick doesn't get scared she's gonna get lez'd by the

catwoman).
Later, buy Clomid without a prescription, little bits of kino will start, pet her on the head, chin, Clomid for sale, and latertake her hands or arms while talking about how she is cute like acat, and how she is so cuddly, and then she'll hug her (chicks alsolove hugs), again, nothing sexual, buy cheap Clomid no rx, no implication, but it is getting thechick to enjoy those nice feelings, and grow more attached asCatwoman plays the insecurities and acts as a mom and protectorto the chick.
My GF says that this feels very comfortable, and is not threateningwhatsoever, Buy Clomid No Prescription.  Order Clomid online c.o.d, My GF doesn't like other chicks to touch her, but with

Catwoman, its okay, she isn't scared (my suspicion, is that

Catwoman is also using NLP and anchors, where can i buy Clomid online, since she is a chick, and a Psych.

Major, Where can i order Clomid without prescription, so I am sure she is good at this too, which also dispelled thefear).
Then, at some point, Catwoman will play the fears of the chick, buy Clomid in canada, andget her over to `console her' and protect her and make her feel atease (job, too fat, too skinny, Buy Clomid no prescription, not pretty, whatever). And they willtalk, and it will get late, and she'll offer that she can spend thenight, order Clomid from mexican pharmacy, so she doesn't have to go back home alone scared.  Buy Clomid No Prescription, Then thecat games will start, and the kino, and the chick will feel at ease.nosexual passes at this stage yet though.
At this point, is usually, Clomid pharmacy, when the chick will tell Catwoman she feelsreally good around her, or loves her somehow or something like that.

Then, and only then, Catwoman will make her move, Clomid samples, again, gently,and with the cute cat thing, Buy cheapest Clomid, and get more physical, kiss her, ortouch her body, or whatever Lez's do.
Basically, Catwoman can get in because she acts as this woman's

protector, and confident, and the person who `truly' worries/cares for

understands that girl..
Apparently this system works most of the time she says.
I think its a good system, especially the cat/kino thing, and playingthe "I was so worried about you/wondering how you are doing"cards with the chick's anxieties.Truly classic..
Opinions on this system, and how it works (and how we can apply iton chicks) are welcome...
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