Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? Well, if you talk about having girls always falling for you for instance, it's not NEARLY as good as actually having a couple hot girls with you saying what a hottie you are infront of the target. This is called PAWNING. Keen: I'm going to try doing the story-telling that you talked about. It's really hard though. I'm a real bad storyteller. I've been working on it today. that's my lesson today. Wakeboarder: Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over manequin in the department store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make it with the manequin and called you a little freak. Gamer: LOL (Laughing Out Loud). Wakeboarder: One more question for you Mystery. What's the meaning of life? Mystery: To fuck. :)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/feed/ 0 Using innuendo to do a pickup http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using Innuendo in PU! From: whoisthis19@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Flirtation briskly crushed Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:47:31 GMT In article <3A3ABF23.226088D4@anymsnaddress.com>, Bill <bgates@anymsnaddress.com> wrote: > Greg, I don't wish to sound totally clueless, but could you tell us how you > get to such a high degree of explicitness in a phone call intended to > hook-up with someone you just met? > > Clearly, a guy has to set a sexual frame to the phone call he makes, or > steer it in that general direction, or she, but how do you find out what she > likes to such a level of detail? God I gotta go but I'll put a few details in. I used to have a girlfriend many years ago who was an excellant flirt and great with inuendo. I modeled her and added to it over the many years. What I do is TESTS. I test the waters. Just off the top of my head here's some innuendos. Me: Hi, its' me. HER: Oh hi! ME: Your not doing somehting right now are you? HER: wha? ME: You know... DOIN... SOMETHING? At this point she'll either say she doesnt have her vibrator out right now which is cool... or she'll be shocked and resist or... she wont have a clue. No matter what all my tests are meant as jokes. I prob the waters. Test her out. See if she is a sexual woman. If not... NEXT!!! Typically I screen em on first meeting. I'll only get the number if I know she is my type. Either way I save time. I don't waste my time on woman who aren't sexually adventurous. In fact tonight a friend of mine was over. Last Saturday she had a guy over from 9 to 11 AM then one from 1 to 4... then a nother from 7 to 11... hehehehe... Not all woman are like my friend but this is the type of woman I prefer and to all you guys who will judge their character for sleeping around.... GEESH!!!! Most of the frigid gals are so boring. I like gals who are FUN! (Second blow job today!) wow!!! I'm having a good day and I havent even gone out sarging yet!!! Gotta go... off to sarge... WOOO HOOO!!! greg the gonna have fun one > > whoisthis19@my-deja.com wrote: > ...... > > > Ok so not only the movie got started but so did you. What was your > > mindset? Was it: I'm gonna do this stuff to her and it'll make her > > horny or... I know what she wants and I'll give it to her. You see... > > your shooting in the dark here. From your phone calls and illicitation > > you should have gotten a clue on what to do here. My phone calls I > > usually find out if she likes oral, anal... ect... I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 PU’s in a college drinking party setting! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. I'm not putting down you guys that don't like to party, but I do like to party, and I lay chicks that way just as well as going through the whole seduction checkoff list...I always have a super great time, and I bring home chicks from crazy nights all the time. I'll be more specific with how I do this in my next post. I just got back from class and I have a little time to kill before I go to work. Oh...by the way...I decided to make Bernie a little project, since I was slammed so bad...I couldn't live it down if I didn't fuck her soon. I'll fill you people in with the story when it happens. I also really want to piss off Julie some more. I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. 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I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM


OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get

some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip

to Japan.  Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we

should all try to report in to make things more helpful to guys who need to

learn. Believe me, it will help you learn too when you write your reports this

way and you go over what you did and piece together the things that made it

successful, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Then you will be less likely to forget the flashes of genius you had

and make sure you incorporate them into your technique again later on.


So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking

about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to

the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

she has said yes to email, Buy no prescription Strattera online, its not so hard to say yes to meeting later. Once she

has said yes to meeting later, its not so hard to say yes to meeting now.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Once

she agrees to meet now, its not so hard to agree to drop by the hotel. Once she

is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

Japan I have always had really good reactions from women when wearing a suit, rx free Strattera. In

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wearing a suit, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

have found that some of my best work comes when I have the least intent to try

to pick women up.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It happens when Im just going about my life and see something

that stirs a desire in me and I just go to work.  Strattera over the counter, My 2 hour lay of the 20 year

old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

searching for TPUA in the mASF archive here, it was posted in December of 2001 I

think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

with a fine body and nice hair in front of me, Buy Strattera No Prescription. She was wearing a skirt that was

just transparent enough for me to make out that she was wearing G-string

panties. I decided I had to have that tonight, buy Strattera online no prescription, and instantly thought of using

the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name

on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

anyway because of the direction she was walking.  Buy Strattera without a prescription, She reacted in a really

confused but generally helpful manner, seeming totally unable to speak English,

but pointing me in the right direction.


Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

meantime, you can also find links on the site to read reviews and buy his Ebook)

about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

smiled, and pulled ahead of her on the escalators, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Of course I knew she would be

behind me so I already had it planned to ask her again which side of the tracks, order Strattera no prescription,

but I wanted her curiosity to be peaked, and I also wanted to pull away to make

her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

adventure.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Anyway, I got the reply "it's the same way Im going", then I

started asking her basic questions in English like "do you speak English?",

etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

to live in Japan, but that I was on a business trip, just trying to get back to

my hotel, purchase Strattera online. I found out that she worked at a clothes store nearby, etc. I find out

that she is one station beyond me, and I remark that its coincidental, she

agrees and smiles, I anchor by touching her arm near her elbow, Buy Strattera No Prescription. After some basic

fluff like this, I say actually I am trying to practice my Japanese again, and

that its nice to have run into her and had a chance to practice. I joke that I

can teach her English too. I say Im serious about improving my Japanese and that

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I bought and show it to her.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Then I use it to get her contact information. It

just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

had accidentally wiped all my data a few days before), it just looks like I am

trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

more than 5 minutes before my stop, so I am eliciting availability, not values.

I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

smiles, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

ME: "I have to leave tomorrow, but it would be nice if we could get together

before then. What are you doing tomorrow?"HER: "Nothing, Online buy Strattera without a prescription, its my day off."ME: "Great, we should do something then"HER: "OK".

ME: "Sounds good!" I touch her arm again where I have been touching her often

when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

judgements and turn off her phone, etc.), but again, I am leading the situation,

and getting gradual agreement to everything I say.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Now I go in for the kill,

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ME: "But wait, Im not sure about?c" Im implying that something will go wrong

with this plan by my tone of voice. "Look, it's a little crazy, but lets get

off here for a second and discuss this more" She is hesitant, buy cheap Strattera no rx, but I smile, and

as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman

to act against her hesitation instincts.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes

her to unconsciously and naturally move in the direction of the I want her to in

much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

hand. It combines the positive anchor and pleasant sensations to make it all the

more likely to succeed.  Where can i find Strattera online, I use it to get women into taxis with me, etc., its

gold. Think of it as a gentle nudge in the right direction J


So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

that I have to do. I have to call the US, but if you don't mind waiting while I

do that, then we can go have our drink, Buy Strattera No Prescription. In the meantime, Strattera samples, I will give you a

simple English book to read, its really interesting!"


At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

is behind me, and now Im into a familiar mode that we can call PLRM "Pre Lay

Relaxation Mode". Basically you just have to be very natural about everything

you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

"romantic type" (setting a frame for later) you are going to love the view

from the room of the city lights, etc. etc, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

am always engaging her attention. In Japanese this is especially effective

because the listener is always called on to be polite and constantly respond at

the appropriate times with head nods, "uh huh" and "yes" equivalents, etc, buy Strattera no prescription.


So with enough of this we arrive at my room. I act totally relaxed, offer her to

sit down, and get her a drink of her choice.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, She gets beer, I get water. I hand

her the book "1001 Sex Secrets Every Man Should Know". It's a small

pocketbook with really simple one or two sentence "secrets" that are just

comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to

understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my

computer. I engage her here and there so she doesn't feel ignored. Then before

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I tell her it is her job to find some good ones while I call the US. Then I

"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

that line means, but I could tell that you just really enjoy sex, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Anyway, find

your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

type as I said before, am I right?" I have never had a girl tell me "no" to

this one yet, so she of course is no different.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Plus I have already planted this

suggesting earlier on the way to the hotel, so its sure fire.  Order Strattera online c.o.d, HER: "Yes?c"ME: "OK, go stand by the window"She goes to stand by the window, I go turn off all the lights and come over to

her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

with foreign actors, etc. and how they always kiss, etc, buy Strattera from mexico.  at this point, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. 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You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. She said give me your number and I said, $B!H (BAh, but I know women, if I give you my number you will get nervous and never call. $B!I (B She said $B!H (BNo, that wont happen I promise. $B!I (B I knew I didn $B!G (Bt have enough rapport or anything to believe that, so really what I was just doing was stalling till I could set up a firm date. I got a pen and wrote my number and at this point we are standing on the corner near my place. I play on Japanese cuteness and write my name with hearts by it. (None of this is stuff I would be able to do in the US.) Then I say, OK, when are we going to meet. Its sort of a way to pace the ongoing reality now that she has my number,its a logical extension. The number is just a formality to me, I want to set up the date. After some negotiation, I get a date set up for 6 PM Tuesday, her day off. I had given her alternatives between my place and eating in Tachikawa nearby (but both already had the presuppostion that we are meeting for a date, so I don $B!G (Bt care which she chooses). She chose Italian in Tachikawa which is perfect cause eating carbs increases seratonin (=relaxation), so I will lay on the patterning after a while, maybe even order a glass of wine (more seratonin and romance) for us both. Then its a 5 minute taxi ride back to my place! Anyway, we keep talking. I get that she never has met a foreigner, that she likes Richard Gere, cause he is $B!H (BShibui $B!I (B. $B!! (B(=quiet, simple, sober, tasteful, austere, parsimonious, etc.) I asked her about her ideal man while doing the (SP) thing. She really accessed a lot and I was awakening her creative centers. I touched her a lot on the arm to anchor the good feelings. She said she really was too ideal, but that her ideal guy was like her father, sweet and nice. I asked if she wanted a guy who made her feel safe, and she said yes. I compared our hand sizes and got kino, remarked at how small her hands were, that my big hands could protect her. Complemented her smile and said that it seems like her eyes smile too and she said that she is often told that. She said I was skillful at complementing and I said that I really meant it. I mirrored her body positions a lot and this seemed to have a good effect. She seemed really into it and wasn $B!G (Bt trying too hard to get away despite it being after midnight and having to work the next day, only bringing up the time when I did. She was rubbing her earlobe, and later playing with her ponytail in a really sexy way, all with the doggy dinner bowl look. I also showed kanji ability and had her write her name, and demonstrated how we could study English together, all using the Zaurus. (BTW, Did you buy one yet, Maniac? A useful tool in many ways. You can turn it into a portable digital photo album too, albeit poor quality...) She liked that. At one point she asked what was in the bucket, I said protein powder and she said $B!H (Bnomitai! $B!I (B and I said $B!H (B5 fun dake areba, nomeru yo. $B!I (B (If you have 5 minutes I can give you a taste). But she refused to go to my apartment and I didn $B!G (Bt press the issue, I just reconfirmed our fun date on Tuesday, and gave her a kiss goodnight, then took off. ---------------------------------- -T]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/feed/ 0 Meeting Psychicbabe http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com How Maniac met psychicbabe (who he later laid). Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. [a discussion about BFs, casual sex..etc, then ensued] Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/feed/ 0 What to do when your chick catches you with another chick! http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? 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Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. 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I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just kind of found myself going into it on the fly..... here we go.. The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc. PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting; especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours have an big effect on peoples' moods?". HB - "Oh, yes, definitely." PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?" HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really" PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired, you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's imagining being sleepy). HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.) PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?" 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I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

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So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

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about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


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the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

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is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

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old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

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think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

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the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

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on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

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Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

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about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

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her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

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etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

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just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

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trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

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I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

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when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

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as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

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So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

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At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

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talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

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hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

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interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. 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Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. 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From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? Well, if you talk about having girls always falling for you for instance, it's not NEARLY as good as actually having a couple hot girls with you saying what a hottie you are infront of the target. This is called PAWNING. Keen: I'm going to try doing the story-telling that you talked about. It's really hard though. I'm a real bad storyteller. I've been working on it today. that's my lesson today. Wakeboarder: Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over manequin in the department store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make it with the manequin and called you a little freak. Gamer: LOL (Laughing Out Loud). Wakeboarder: One more question for you Mystery. What's the meaning of life? Mystery: To fuck. :)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/feed/ 0 Using innuendo to do a pickup http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using Innuendo in PU! From: whoisthis19@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Flirtation briskly crushed Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:47:31 GMT In article <3A3ABF23.226088D4@anymsnaddress.com>, Bill <bgates@anymsnaddress.com> wrote: > Greg, I don't wish to sound totally clueless, but could you tell us how you > get to such a high degree of explicitness in a phone call intended to > hook-up with someone you just met? > > Clearly, a guy has to set a sexual frame to the phone call he makes, or > steer it in that general direction, or she, but how do you find out what she > likes to such a level of detail? God I gotta go but I'll put a few details in. I used to have a girlfriend many years ago who was an excellant flirt and great with inuendo. I modeled her and added to it over the many years. What I do is TESTS. I test the waters. Just off the top of my head here's some innuendos. Me: Hi, its' me. HER: Oh hi! ME: Your not doing somehting right now are you? HER: wha? ME: You know... DOIN... SOMETHING? At this point she'll either say she doesnt have her vibrator out right now which is cool... or she'll be shocked and resist or... she wont have a clue. No matter what all my tests are meant as jokes. I prob the waters. Test her out. See if she is a sexual woman. If not... NEXT!!! Typically I screen em on first meeting. I'll only get the number if I know she is my type. Either way I save time. I don't waste my time on woman who aren't sexually adventurous. In fact tonight a friend of mine was over. Last Saturday she had a guy over from 9 to 11 AM then one from 1 to 4... then a nother from 7 to 11... hehehehe... Not all woman are like my friend but this is the type of woman I prefer and to all you guys who will judge their character for sleeping around.... GEESH!!!! Most of the frigid gals are so boring. I like gals who are FUN! (Second blow job today!) wow!!! I'm having a good day and I havent even gone out sarging yet!!! Gotta go... off to sarge... WOOO HOOO!!! greg the gonna have fun one > > whoisthis19@my-deja.com wrote: > ...... > > > Ok so not only the movie got started but so did you. What was your > > mindset? Was it: I'm gonna do this stuff to her and it'll make her > > horny or... I know what she wants and I'll give it to her. You see... > > your shooting in the dark here. From your phone calls and illicitation > > you should have gotten a clue on what to do here. My phone calls I > > usually find out if she likes oral, anal... ect... I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 PU’s in a college drinking party setting! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. I'm not putting down you guys that don't like to party, but I do like to party, and I lay chicks that way just as well as going through the whole seduction checkoff list...I always have a super great time, and I bring home chicks from crazy nights all the time. I'll be more specific with how I do this in my next post. I just got back from class and I have a little time to kill before I go to work. Oh...by the way...I decided to make Bernie a little project, since I was slammed so bad...I couldn't live it down if I didn't fuck her soon. I'll fill you people in with the story when it happens. I also really want to piss off Julie some more. I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just kind of found myself going into it on the fly..... here we go.. The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc. PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting; especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours have an big effect on peoples' moods?". HB - "Oh, yes, definitely." PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?" HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really" PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired, you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's imagining being sleepy). HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.) PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?" PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual, relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually, being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with each one. You get the picture - guiding her into these states, comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;) (At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself). I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM


OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get

some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip

to Japan.  Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we

should all try to report in to make things more helpful to guys who need to

learn. Believe me, it will help you learn too when you write your reports this

way and you go over what you did and piece together the things that made it

successful, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Then you will be less likely to forget the flashes of genius you had

and make sure you incorporate them into your technique again later on.


So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking

about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to

the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

she has said yes to email, Buy no prescription Strattera online, its not so hard to say yes to meeting later. Once she

has said yes to meeting later, its not so hard to say yes to meeting now.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Once

she agrees to meet now, its not so hard to agree to drop by the hotel. Once she

is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

Japan I have always had really good reactions from women when wearing a suit, rx free Strattera. In

Asia in general, I think you are going to get good reactions from women when

wearing a suit, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

have found that some of my best work comes when I have the least intent to try

to pick women up.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It happens when Im just going about my life and see something

that stirs a desire in me and I just go to work.  Strattera over the counter, My 2 hour lay of the 20 year

old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

searching for TPUA in the mASF archive here, it was posted in December of 2001 I

think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

with a fine body and nice hair in front of me, Buy Strattera No Prescription. She was wearing a skirt that was

just transparent enough for me to make out that she was wearing G-string

panties. I decided I had to have that tonight, buy Strattera online no prescription, and instantly thought of using

the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name

on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

anyway because of the direction she was walking.  Buy Strattera without a prescription, She reacted in a really

confused but generally helpful manner, seeming totally unable to speak English,

but pointing me in the right direction.


Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

meantime, you can also find links on the site to read reviews and buy his Ebook)

about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

smiled, and pulled ahead of her on the escalators, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Of course I knew she would be

behind me so I already had it planned to ask her again which side of the tracks, order Strattera no prescription,

but I wanted her curiosity to be peaked, and I also wanted to pull away to make

her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

adventure.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Anyway, I got the reply "it's the same way Im going", then I

started asking her basic questions in English like "do you speak English?",

etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

to live in Japan, but that I was on a business trip, just trying to get back to

my hotel, purchase Strattera online. I found out that she worked at a clothes store nearby, etc. I find out

that she is one station beyond me, and I remark that its coincidental, she

agrees and smiles, I anchor by touching her arm near her elbow, Buy Strattera No Prescription. After some basic

fluff like this, I say actually I am trying to practice my Japanese again, and

that its nice to have run into her and had a chance to practice. I joke that I

can teach her English too. I say Im serious about improving my Japanese and that

I even bought a Japanese PDA to help me practice.  Order Strattera from mexican pharmacy, Here I pull out the Sony Clie

I bought and show it to her.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Then I use it to get her contact information. It

just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

had accidentally wiped all my data a few days before), it just looks like I am

trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

more than 5 minutes before my stop, so I am eliciting availability, not values.

I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

smiles, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

ME: "I have to leave tomorrow, but it would be nice if we could get together

before then. What are you doing tomorrow?"HER: "Nothing, Online buy Strattera without a prescription, its my day off."ME: "Great, we should do something then"HER: "OK".

ME: "Sounds good!" I touch her arm again where I have been touching her often

when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

judgements and turn off her phone, etc.), but again, I am leading the situation,

and getting gradual agreement to everything I say.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Now I go in for the kill,

this is the crucial point. I have to get her to go with me now, and to get off

with me at my stop. I wait till we hear the announcement before my stop, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

ME: "But wait, Im not sure about?c" Im implying that something will go wrong

with this plan by my tone of voice. "Look, it's a little crazy, but lets get

off here for a second and discuss this more" She is hesitant, buy cheap Strattera no rx, but I smile, and

as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman

to act against her hesitation instincts.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes

her to unconsciously and naturally move in the direction of the I want her to in

much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

hand. It combines the positive anchor and pleasant sensations to make it all the

more likely to succeed.  Where can i find Strattera online, I use it to get women into taxis with me, etc., its

gold. Think of it as a gentle nudge in the right direction J


So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

that I have to do. I have to call the US, but if you don't mind waiting while I

do that, then we can go have our drink, Buy Strattera No Prescription. In the meantime, Strattera samples, I will give you a

simple English book to read, its really interesting!"


At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

is behind me, and now Im into a familiar mode that we can call PLRM "Pre Lay

Relaxation Mode". Basically you just have to be very natural about everything

you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

"romantic type" (setting a frame for later) you are going to love the view

from the room of the city lights, etc. etc, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

am always engaging her attention. In Japanese this is especially effective

because the listener is always called on to be polite and constantly respond at

the appropriate times with head nods, "uh huh" and "yes" equivalents, etc, buy Strattera no prescription.


So with enough of this we arrive at my room. I act totally relaxed, offer her to

sit down, and get her a drink of her choice.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, She gets beer, I get water. I hand

her the book "1001 Sex Secrets Every Man Should Know". It's a small

pocketbook with really simple one or two sentence "secrets" that are just

comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to

understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my

computer. I engage her here and there so she doesn't feel ignored. Then before

the call, I sit by her and ask if she has found any favorite ideas, Buy Strattera No Prescription. She says no,

I tell her it is her job to find some good ones while I call the US. Then I

"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

that line means, but I could tell that you just really enjoy sex, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Anyway, find

your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

type as I said before, am I right?" I have never had a girl tell me "no" to

this one yet, so she of course is no different.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Plus I have already planted this

suggesting earlier on the way to the hotel, so its sure fire.  Order Strattera online c.o.d, HER: "Yes?c"ME: "OK, go stand by the window"She goes to stand by the window, I go turn off all the lights and come over to

her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

with foreign actors, etc. and how they always kiss, etc, buy Strattera from mexico.  at this point, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. She said give me your number and I said, $B!H (BAh, but I know women, if I give you my number you will get nervous and never call. $B!I (B She said $B!H (BNo, that wont happen I promise. $B!I (B I knew I didn $B!G (Bt have enough rapport or anything to believe that, so really what I was just doing was stalling till I could set up a firm date. I got a pen and wrote my number and at this point we are standing on the corner near my place. I play on Japanese cuteness and write my name with hearts by it. (None of this is stuff I would be able to do in the US.) Then I say, OK, when are we going to meet. Its sort of a way to pace the ongoing reality now that she has my number,its a logical extension. The number is just a formality to me, I want to set up the date. After some negotiation, I get a date set up for 6 PM Tuesday, her day off. I had given her alternatives between my place and eating in Tachikawa nearby (but both already had the presuppostion that we are meeting for a date, so I don $B!G (Bt care which she chooses). She chose Italian in Tachikawa which is perfect cause eating carbs increases seratonin (=relaxation), so I will lay on the patterning after a while, maybe even order a glass of wine (more seratonin and romance) for us both. Then its a 5 minute taxi ride back to my place! Anyway, we keep talking. I get that she never has met a foreigner, that she likes Richard Gere, cause he is $B!H (BShibui $B!I (B. $B!! (B(=quiet, simple, sober, tasteful, austere, parsimonious, etc.) I asked her about her ideal man while doing the (SP) thing. She really accessed a lot and I was awakening her creative centers. I touched her a lot on the arm to anchor the good feelings. She said she really was too ideal, but that her ideal guy was like her father, sweet and nice. I asked if she wanted a guy who made her feel safe, and she said yes. I compared our hand sizes and got kino, remarked at how small her hands were, that my big hands could protect her. Complemented her smile and said that it seems like her eyes smile too and she said that she is often told that. She said I was skillful at complementing and I said that I really meant it. I mirrored her body positions a lot and this seemed to have a good effect. She seemed really into it and wasn $B!G (Bt trying too hard to get away despite it being after midnight and having to work the next day, only bringing up the time when I did. She was rubbing her earlobe, and later playing with her ponytail in a really sexy way, all with the doggy dinner bowl look. I also showed kanji ability and had her write her name, and demonstrated how we could study English together, all using the Zaurus. (BTW, Did you buy one yet, Maniac? A useful tool in many ways. You can turn it into a portable digital photo album too, albeit poor quality...) She liked that. At one point she asked what was in the bucket, I said protein powder and she said $B!H (Bnomitai! $B!I (B and I said $B!H (B5 fun dake areba, nomeru yo. $B!I (B (If you have 5 minutes I can give you a taste). But she refused to go to my apartment and I didn $B!G (Bt press the issue, I just reconfirmed our fun date on Tuesday, and gave her a kiss goodnight, then took off. ---------------------------------- -T]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/feed/ 0 Meeting Psychicbabe http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com How Maniac met psychicbabe (who he later laid). Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. [a discussion about BFs, casual sex..etc, then ensued] Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/feed/ 0 What to do when your chick catches you with another chick! http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? Well, if you talk about having girls always falling for you for instance, it's not NEARLY as good as actually having a couple hot girls with you saying what a hottie you are infront of the target. This is called PAWNING. Keen: I'm going to try doing the story-telling that you talked about. It's really hard though. I'm a real bad storyteller. I've been working on it today. that's my lesson today. Wakeboarder: Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over manequin in the department store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make it with the manequin and called you a little freak. Gamer: LOL (Laughing Out Loud). Wakeboarder: One more question for you Mystery. What's the meaning of life? Mystery: To fuck. :)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! 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Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? 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Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? 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I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 PU’s in a college drinking party setting! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. I'm not putting down you guys that don't like to party, but I do like to party, and I lay chicks that way just as well as going through the whole seduction checkoff list...I always have a super great time, and I bring home chicks from crazy nights all the time. I'll be more specific with how I do this in my next post. I just got back from class and I have a little time to kill before I go to work. Oh...by the way...I decided to make Bernie a little project, since I was slammed so bad...I couldn't live it down if I didn't fuck her soon. I'll fill you people in with the story when it happens. I also really want to piss off Julie some more. I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just kind of found myself going into it on the fly..... here we go.. The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc. PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting; especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours have an big effect on peoples' moods?". HB - "Oh, yes, definitely." PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?" HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really" PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired, you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's imagining being sleepy). HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.) PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?" 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I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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Keys to the Lay:


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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

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Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

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So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

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could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

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etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

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are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

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The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

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as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

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much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

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should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

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At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

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leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

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content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

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material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

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is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

is behind me, and now Im into a familiar mode that we can call PLRM "Pre Lay

Relaxation Mode". Basically you just have to be very natural about everything

you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

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All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

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sit down, and get her a drink of her choice.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, She gets beer, I get water. I hand

her the book "1001 Sex Secrets Every Man Should Know". It's a small

pocketbook with really simple one or two sentence "secrets" that are just

comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to

understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my

computer. I engage her here and there so she doesn't feel ignored. Then before

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I tell her it is her job to find some good ones while I call the US. Then I

"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

that line means, but I could tell that you just really enjoy sex, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Anyway, find

your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

type as I said before, am I right?" I have never had a girl tell me "no" to

this one yet, so she of course is no different.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Plus I have already planted this

suggesting earlier on the way to the hotel, so its sure fire.  Order Strattera online c.o.d, HER: "Yes?c"ME: "OK, go stand by the window"She goes to stand by the window, I go turn off all the lights and come over to

her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

with foreign actors, etc. and how they always kiss, etc, buy Strattera from mexico.  at this point, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. 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WOOO HOOO!!! greg the gonna have fun one > > whoisthis19@my-deja.com wrote: > ...... > > > Ok so not only the movie got started but so did you. What was your > > mindset? Was it: I'm gonna do this stuff to her and it'll make her > > horny or... I know what she wants and I'll give it to her. You see... > > your shooting in the dark here. From your phone calls and illicitation > > you should have gotten a clue on what to do here. My phone calls I > > usually find out if she likes oral, anal... ect... I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? Well, if you talk about having girls always falling for you for instance, it's not NEARLY as good as actually having a couple hot girls with you saying what a hottie you are infront of the target. This is called PAWNING. Keen: I'm going to try doing the story-telling that you talked about. It's really hard though. I'm a real bad storyteller. I've been working on it today. that's my lesson today. Wakeboarder: Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over manequin in the department store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make it with the manequin and called you a little freak. Gamer: LOL (Laughing Out Loud). Wakeboarder: One more question for you Mystery. What's the meaning of life? Mystery: To fuck. :)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/feed/ 0 Using innuendo to do a pickup http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using Innuendo in PU! From: whoisthis19@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Flirtation briskly crushed Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:47:31 GMT In article <3A3ABF23.226088D4@anymsnaddress.com>, Bill <bgates@anymsnaddress.com> wrote: > Greg, I don't wish to sound totally clueless, but could you tell us how you > get to such a high degree of explicitness in a phone call intended to > hook-up with someone you just met? > > Clearly, a guy has to set a sexual frame to the phone call he makes, or > steer it in that general direction, or she, but how do you find out what she > likes to such a level of detail? God I gotta go but I'll put a few details in. I used to have a girlfriend many years ago who was an excellant flirt and great with inuendo. I modeled her and added to it over the many years. What I do is TESTS. I test the waters. Just off the top of my head here's some innuendos. Me: Hi, its' me. HER: Oh hi! ME: Your not doing somehting right now are you? HER: wha? ME: You know... DOIN... SOMETHING? At this point she'll either say she doesnt have her vibrator out right now which is cool... or she'll be shocked and resist or... she wont have a clue. No matter what all my tests are meant as jokes. I prob the waters. Test her out. See if she is a sexual woman. If not... NEXT!!! Typically I screen em on first meeting. I'll only get the number if I know she is my type. Either way I save time. I don't waste my time on woman who aren't sexually adventurous. In fact tonight a friend of mine was over. Last Saturday she had a guy over from 9 to 11 AM then one from 1 to 4... then a nother from 7 to 11... hehehehe... Not all woman are like my friend but this is the type of woman I prefer and to all you guys who will judge their character for sleeping around.... GEESH!!!! Most of the frigid gals are so boring. I like gals who are FUN! (Second blow job today!) wow!!! I'm having a good day and I havent even gone out sarging yet!!! Gotta go... off to sarge... WOOO HOOO!!! greg the gonna have fun one > > whoisthis19@my-deja.com wrote: > ...... > > > Ok so not only the movie got started but so did you. What was your > > mindset? Was it: I'm gonna do this stuff to her and it'll make her > > horny or... I know what she wants and I'll give it to her. You see... > > your shooting in the dark here. From your phone calls and illicitation > > you should have gotten a clue on what to do here. My phone calls I > > usually find out if she likes oral, anal... ect... I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 PU’s in a college drinking party setting! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. 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I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just kind of found myself going into it on the fly..... here we go.. The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc. PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting; especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours have an big effect on peoples' moods?". HB - "Oh, yes, definitely." PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?" HB - "Well, maybe. 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I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM


OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get

some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip

to Japan.  Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we

should all try to report in to make things more helpful to guys who need to

learn. Believe me, it will help you learn too when you write your reports this

way and you go over what you did and piece together the things that made it

successful, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Then you will be less likely to forget the flashes of genius you had

and make sure you incorporate them into your technique again later on.


So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking

about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to

the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

she has said yes to email, Buy no prescription Strattera online, its not so hard to say yes to meeting later. Once she

has said yes to meeting later, its not so hard to say yes to meeting now.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Once

she agrees to meet now, its not so hard to agree to drop by the hotel. Once she

is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

Japan I have always had really good reactions from women when wearing a suit, rx free Strattera. In

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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

have found that some of my best work comes when I have the least intent to try

to pick women up.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It happens when Im just going about my life and see something

that stirs a desire in me and I just go to work.  Strattera over the counter, My 2 hour lay of the 20 year

old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

searching for TPUA in the mASF archive here, it was posted in December of 2001 I

think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

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just transparent enough for me to make out that she was wearing G-string

panties. I decided I had to have that tonight, buy Strattera online no prescription, and instantly thought of using

the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name

on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

anyway because of the direction she was walking.  Buy Strattera without a prescription, She reacted in a really

confused but generally helpful manner, seeming totally unable to speak English,

but pointing me in the right direction.


Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

meantime, you can also find links on the site to read reviews and buy his Ebook)

about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

smiled, and pulled ahead of her on the escalators, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Of course I knew she would be

behind me so I already had it planned to ask her again which side of the tracks, order Strattera no prescription,

but I wanted her curiosity to be peaked, and I also wanted to pull away to make

her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

adventure.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Anyway, I got the reply "it's the same way Im going", then I

started asking her basic questions in English like "do you speak English?",

etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

to live in Japan, but that I was on a business trip, just trying to get back to

my hotel, purchase Strattera online. I found out that she worked at a clothes store nearby, etc. I find out

that she is one station beyond me, and I remark that its coincidental, she

agrees and smiles, I anchor by touching her arm near her elbow, Buy Strattera No Prescription. After some basic

fluff like this, I say actually I am trying to practice my Japanese again, and

that its nice to have run into her and had a chance to practice. I joke that I

can teach her English too. I say Im serious about improving my Japanese and that

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just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

had accidentally wiped all my data a few days before), it just looks like I am

trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

more than 5 minutes before my stop, so I am eliciting availability, not values.

I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

smiles, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

ME: "I have to leave tomorrow, but it would be nice if we could get together

before then. What are you doing tomorrow?"HER: "Nothing, Online buy Strattera without a prescription, its my day off."ME: "Great, we should do something then"HER: "OK".

ME: "Sounds good!" I touch her arm again where I have been touching her often

when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

judgements and turn off her phone, etc.), but again, I am leading the situation,

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ME: "But wait, Im not sure about?c" Im implying that something will go wrong

with this plan by my tone of voice. "Look, it's a little crazy, but lets get

off here for a second and discuss this more" She is hesitant, buy cheap Strattera no rx, but I smile, and

as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman

to act against her hesitation instincts.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes

her to unconsciously and naturally move in the direction of the I want her to in

much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

hand. It combines the positive anchor and pleasant sensations to make it all the

more likely to succeed.  Where can i find Strattera online, I use it to get women into taxis with me, etc., its

gold. Think of it as a gentle nudge in the right direction J


So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

that I have to do. I have to call the US, but if you don't mind waiting while I

do that, then we can go have our drink, Buy Strattera No Prescription. In the meantime, Strattera samples, I will give you a

simple English book to read, its really interesting!"


At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

is behind me, and now Im into a familiar mode that we can call PLRM "Pre Lay

Relaxation Mode". Basically you just have to be very natural about everything

you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

"romantic type" (setting a frame for later) you are going to love the view

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All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

am always engaging her attention. In Japanese this is especially effective

because the listener is always called on to be polite and constantly respond at

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So with enough of this we arrive at my room. I act totally relaxed, offer her to

sit down, and get her a drink of her choice.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, She gets beer, I get water. I hand

her the book "1001 Sex Secrets Every Man Should Know". It's a small

pocketbook with really simple one or two sentence "secrets" that are just

comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to

understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my

computer. I engage her here and there so she doesn't feel ignored. Then before

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I tell her it is her job to find some good ones while I call the US. Then I

"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

that line means, but I could tell that you just really enjoy sex, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Anyway, find

your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

type as I said before, am I right?" I have never had a girl tell me "no" to

this one yet, so she of course is no different.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Plus I have already planted this

suggesting earlier on the way to the hotel, so its sure fire.  Order Strattera online c.o.d, HER: "Yes?c"ME: "OK, go stand by the window"She goes to stand by the window, I go turn off all the lights and come over to

her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

with foreign actors, etc. and how they always kiss, etc, buy Strattera from mexico.  at this point, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. She said give me your number and I said, $B!H (BAh, but I know women, if I give you my number you will get nervous and never call. $B!I (B She said $B!H (BNo, that wont happen I promise. $B!I (B I knew I didn $B!G (Bt have enough rapport or anything to believe that, so really what I was just doing was stalling till I could set up a firm date. I got a pen and wrote my number and at this point we are standing on the corner near my place. I play on Japanese cuteness and write my name with hearts by it. (None of this is stuff I would be able to do in the US.) Then I say, OK, when are we going to meet. Its sort of a way to pace the ongoing reality now that she has my number,its a logical extension. The number is just a formality to me, I want to set up the date. After some negotiation, I get a date set up for 6 PM Tuesday, her day off. I had given her alternatives between my place and eating in Tachikawa nearby (but both already had the presuppostion that we are meeting for a date, so I don $B!G (Bt care which she chooses). She chose Italian in Tachikawa which is perfect cause eating carbs increases seratonin (=relaxation), so I will lay on the patterning after a while, maybe even order a glass of wine (more seratonin and romance) for us both. Then its a 5 minute taxi ride back to my place! Anyway, we keep talking. I get that she never has met a foreigner, that she likes Richard Gere, cause he is $B!H (BShibui $B!I (B. $B!! (B(=quiet, simple, sober, tasteful, austere, parsimonious, etc.) I asked her about her ideal man while doing the (SP) thing. She really accessed a lot and I was awakening her creative centers. I touched her a lot on the arm to anchor the good feelings. She said she really was too ideal, but that her ideal guy was like her father, sweet and nice. I asked if she wanted a guy who made her feel safe, and she said yes. I compared our hand sizes and got kino, remarked at how small her hands were, that my big hands could protect her. Complemented her smile and said that it seems like her eyes smile too and she said that she is often told that. She said I was skillful at complementing and I said that I really meant it. I mirrored her body positions a lot and this seemed to have a good effect. She seemed really into it and wasn $B!G (Bt trying too hard to get away despite it being after midnight and having to work the next day, only bringing up the time when I did. She was rubbing her earlobe, and later playing with her ponytail in a really sexy way, all with the doggy dinner bowl look. I also showed kanji ability and had her write her name, and demonstrated how we could study English together, all using the Zaurus. (BTW, Did you buy one yet, Maniac? A useful tool in many ways. You can turn it into a portable digital photo album too, albeit poor quality...) She liked that. At one point she asked what was in the bucket, I said protein powder and she said $B!H (Bnomitai! $B!I (B and I said $B!H (B5 fun dake areba, nomeru yo. $B!I (B (If you have 5 minutes I can give you a taste). But she refused to go to my apartment and I didn $B!G (Bt press the issue, I just reconfirmed our fun date on Tuesday, and gave her a kiss goodnight, then took off. ---------------------------------- -T]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/feed/ 0 Meeting Psychicbabe http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com How Maniac met psychicbabe (who he later laid). Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. [a discussion about BFs, casual sex..etc, then ensued] Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/feed/ 0 What to do when your chick catches you with another chick! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. I'm not putting down you guys that don't like to party, but I do like to party, and I lay chicks that way just as well as going through the whole seduction checkoff list...I always have a super great time, and I bring home chicks from crazy nights all the time. I'll be more specific with how I do this in my next post. I just got back from class and I have a little time to kill before I go to work. Oh...by the way...I decided to make Bernie a little project, since I was slammed so bad...I couldn't live it down if I didn't fuck her soon. I'll fill you people in with the story when it happens. I also really want to piss off Julie some more. I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. 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Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. 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In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. 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I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 PU’s in a college drinking party setting! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. I'm not putting down you guys that don't like to party, but I do like to party, and I lay chicks that way just as well as going through the whole seduction checkoff list...I always have a super great time, and I bring home chicks from crazy nights all the time. I'll be more specific with how I do this in my next post. I just got back from class and I have a little time to kill before I go to work. Oh...by the way...I decided to make Bernie a little project, since I was slammed so bad...I couldn't live it down if I didn't fuck her soon. I'll fill you people in with the story when it happens. I also really want to piss off Julie some more. I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just kind of found myself going into it on the fly..... here we go.. The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc. PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting; especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours have an big effect on peoples' moods?". HB - "Oh, yes, definitely." PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?" HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really" PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired, you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's imagining being sleepy). HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.) PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?" PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual, relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually, being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with each one. You get the picture - guiding her into these states, comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;) (At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself). I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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Keys to the Lay:


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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

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Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

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As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

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So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

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Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

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I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

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could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

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ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

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imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. 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Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. 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Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! 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IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? Well, if you talk about having girls always falling for you for instance, it's not NEARLY as good as actually having a couple hot girls with you saying what a hottie you are infront of the target. This is called PAWNING. Keen: I'm going to try doing the story-telling that you talked about. It's really hard though. I'm a real bad storyteller. I've been working on it today. that's my lesson today. Wakeboarder: Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over manequin in the department store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make it with the manequin and called you a little freak. Gamer: LOL (Laughing Out Loud). Wakeboarder: One more question for you Mystery. What's the meaning of life? Mystery: To fuck. :)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/feed/ 0 Using innuendo to do a pickup http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using Innuendo in PU! From: whoisthis19@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Flirtation briskly crushed Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:47:31 GMT In article <3A3ABF23.226088D4@anymsnaddress.com>, Bill <bgates@anymsnaddress.com> wrote: > Greg, I don't wish to sound totally clueless, but could you tell us how you > get to such a high degree of explicitness in a phone call intended to > hook-up with someone you just met? > > Clearly, a guy has to set a sexual frame to the phone call he makes, or > steer it in that general direction, or she, but how do you find out what she > likes to such a level of detail? God I gotta go but I'll put a few details in. I used to have a girlfriend many years ago who was an excellant flirt and great with inuendo. I modeled her and added to it over the many years. What I do is TESTS. I test the waters. Just off the top of my head here's some innuendos. Me: Hi, its' me. HER: Oh hi! ME: Your not doing somehting right now are you? HER: wha? ME: You know... DOIN... SOMETHING? At this point she'll either say she doesnt have her vibrator out right now which is cool... or she'll be shocked and resist or... she wont have a clue. No matter what all my tests are meant as jokes. I prob the waters. Test her out. See if she is a sexual woman. If not... NEXT!!! Typically I screen em on first meeting. I'll only get the number if I know she is my type. Either way I save time. I don't waste my time on woman who aren't sexually adventurous. In fact tonight a friend of mine was over. Last Saturday she had a guy over from 9 to 11 AM then one from 1 to 4... then a nother from 7 to 11... hehehehe... Not all woman are like my friend but this is the type of woman I prefer and to all you guys who will judge their character for sleeping around.... GEESH!!!! Most of the frigid gals are so boring. I like gals who are FUN! (Second blow job today!) wow!!! I'm having a good day and I havent even gone out sarging yet!!! Gotta go... off to sarge... WOOO HOOO!!! greg the gonna have fun one > > whoisthis19@my-deja.com wrote: > ...... > > > Ok so not only the movie got started but so did you. What was your > > mindset? Was it: I'm gonna do this stuff to her and it'll make her > > horny or... I know what she wants and I'll give it to her. You see... > > your shooting in the dark here. From your phone calls and illicitation > > you should have gotten a clue on what to do here. My phone calls I > > usually find out if she likes oral, anal... ect... I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 PU’s in a college drinking party setting! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. I'm not putting down you guys that don't like to party, but I do like to party, and I lay chicks that way just as well as going through the whole seduction checkoff list...I always have a super great time, and I bring home chicks from crazy nights all the time. I'll be more specific with how I do this in my next post. I just got back from class and I have a little time to kill before I go to work. Oh...by the way...I decided to make Bernie a little project, since I was slammed so bad...I couldn't live it down if I didn't fuck her soon. I'll fill you people in with the story when it happens. I also really want to piss off Julie some more. I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just kind of found myself going into it on the fly..... here we go.. The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc. PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting; especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours have an big effect on peoples' moods?". HB - "Oh, yes, definitely." PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?" HB - "Well, maybe. 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PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual, relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually, being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with each one. You get the picture - guiding her into these states, comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;) (At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself). I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM


OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get

some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip

to Japan.  Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we

should all try to report in to make things more helpful to guys who need to

learn. Believe me, it will help you learn too when you write your reports this

way and you go over what you did and piece together the things that made it

successful, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Then you will be less likely to forget the flashes of genius you had

and make sure you incorporate them into your technique again later on.


So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking

about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to

the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

she has said yes to email, Buy no prescription Strattera online, its not so hard to say yes to meeting later. Once she

has said yes to meeting later, its not so hard to say yes to meeting now.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Once

she agrees to meet now, its not so hard to agree to drop by the hotel. Once she

is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

Japan I have always had really good reactions from women when wearing a suit, rx free Strattera. In

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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

have found that some of my best work comes when I have the least intent to try

to pick women up.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It happens when Im just going about my life and see something

that stirs a desire in me and I just go to work.  Strattera over the counter, My 2 hour lay of the 20 year

old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

searching for TPUA in the mASF archive here, it was posted in December of 2001 I

think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

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just transparent enough for me to make out that she was wearing G-string

panties. I decided I had to have that tonight, buy Strattera online no prescription, and instantly thought of using

the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name

on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

anyway because of the direction she was walking.  Buy Strattera without a prescription, She reacted in a really

confused but generally helpful manner, seeming totally unable to speak English,

but pointing me in the right direction.


Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

meantime, you can also find links on the site to read reviews and buy his Ebook)

about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

smiled, and pulled ahead of her on the escalators, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Of course I knew she would be

behind me so I already had it planned to ask her again which side of the tracks, order Strattera no prescription,

but I wanted her curiosity to be peaked, and I also wanted to pull away to make

her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

adventure.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Anyway, I got the reply "it's the same way Im going", then I

started asking her basic questions in English like "do you speak English?",

etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

to live in Japan, but that I was on a business trip, just trying to get back to

my hotel, purchase Strattera online. I found out that she worked at a clothes store nearby, etc. I find out

that she is one station beyond me, and I remark that its coincidental, she

agrees and smiles, I anchor by touching her arm near her elbow, Buy Strattera No Prescription. After some basic

fluff like this, I say actually I am trying to practice my Japanese again, and

that its nice to have run into her and had a chance to practice. I joke that I

can teach her English too. I say Im serious about improving my Japanese and that

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just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

had accidentally wiped all my data a few days before), it just looks like I am

trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

more than 5 minutes before my stop, so I am eliciting availability, not values.

I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

smiles, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

ME: "I have to leave tomorrow, but it would be nice if we could get together

before then. What are you doing tomorrow?"HER: "Nothing, Online buy Strattera without a prescription, its my day off."ME: "Great, we should do something then"HER: "OK".

ME: "Sounds good!" I touch her arm again where I have been touching her often

when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

judgements and turn off her phone, etc.), but again, I am leading the situation,

and getting gradual agreement to everything I say.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Now I go in for the kill,

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ME: "But wait, Im not sure about?c" Im implying that something will go wrong

with this plan by my tone of voice. "Look, it's a little crazy, but lets get

off here for a second and discuss this more" She is hesitant, buy cheap Strattera no rx, but I smile, and

as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman

to act against her hesitation instincts.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes

her to unconsciously and naturally move in the direction of the I want her to in

much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

hand. It combines the positive anchor and pleasant sensations to make it all the

more likely to succeed.  Where can i find Strattera online, I use it to get women into taxis with me, etc., its

gold. Think of it as a gentle nudge in the right direction J


So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

that I have to do. I have to call the US, but if you don't mind waiting while I

do that, then we can go have our drink, Buy Strattera No Prescription. In the meantime, Strattera samples, I will give you a

simple English book to read, its really interesting!"


At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

is behind me, and now Im into a familiar mode that we can call PLRM "Pre Lay

Relaxation Mode". Basically you just have to be very natural about everything

you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

"romantic type" (setting a frame for later) you are going to love the view

from the room of the city lights, etc. etc, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

am always engaging her attention. In Japanese this is especially effective

because the listener is always called on to be polite and constantly respond at

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So with enough of this we arrive at my room. I act totally relaxed, offer her to

sit down, and get her a drink of her choice.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, She gets beer, I get water. I hand

her the book "1001 Sex Secrets Every Man Should Know". It's a small

pocketbook with really simple one or two sentence "secrets" that are just

comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to

understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my

computer. I engage her here and there so she doesn't feel ignored. Then before

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I tell her it is her job to find some good ones while I call the US. Then I

"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

that line means, but I could tell that you just really enjoy sex, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Anyway, find

your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

type as I said before, am I right?" I have never had a girl tell me "no" to

this one yet, so she of course is no different.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Plus I have already planted this

suggesting earlier on the way to the hotel, so its sure fire.  Order Strattera online c.o.d, HER: "Yes?c"ME: "OK, go stand by the window"She goes to stand by the window, I go turn off all the lights and come over to

her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

with foreign actors, etc. and how they always kiss, etc, buy Strattera from mexico.  at this point, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. She said give me your number and I said, $B!H (BAh, but I know women, if I give you my number you will get nervous and never call. $B!I (B She said $B!H (BNo, that wont happen I promise. $B!I (B I knew I didn $B!G (Bt have enough rapport or anything to believe that, so really what I was just doing was stalling till I could set up a firm date. I got a pen and wrote my number and at this point we are standing on the corner near my place. I play on Japanese cuteness and write my name with hearts by it. (None of this is stuff I would be able to do in the US.) Then I say, OK, when are we going to meet. Its sort of a way to pace the ongoing reality now that she has my number,its a logical extension. The number is just a formality to me, I want to set up the date. After some negotiation, I get a date set up for 6 PM Tuesday, her day off. I had given her alternatives between my place and eating in Tachikawa nearby (but both already had the presuppostion that we are meeting for a date, so I don $B!G (Bt care which she chooses). She chose Italian in Tachikawa which is perfect cause eating carbs increases seratonin (=relaxation), so I will lay on the patterning after a while, maybe even order a glass of wine (more seratonin and romance) for us both. Then its a 5 minute taxi ride back to my place! Anyway, we keep talking. I get that she never has met a foreigner, that she likes Richard Gere, cause he is $B!H (BShibui $B!I (B. $B!! (B(=quiet, simple, sober, tasteful, austere, parsimonious, etc.) I asked her about her ideal man while doing the (SP) thing. She really accessed a lot and I was awakening her creative centers. I touched her a lot on the arm to anchor the good feelings. She said she really was too ideal, but that her ideal guy was like her father, sweet and nice. I asked if she wanted a guy who made her feel safe, and she said yes. I compared our hand sizes and got kino, remarked at how small her hands were, that my big hands could protect her. Complemented her smile and said that it seems like her eyes smile too and she said that she is often told that. She said I was skillful at complementing and I said that I really meant it. I mirrored her body positions a lot and this seemed to have a good effect. She seemed really into it and wasn $B!G (Bt trying too hard to get away despite it being after midnight and having to work the next day, only bringing up the time when I did. She was rubbing her earlobe, and later playing with her ponytail in a really sexy way, all with the doggy dinner bowl look. I also showed kanji ability and had her write her name, and demonstrated how we could study English together, all using the Zaurus. (BTW, Did you buy one yet, Maniac? A useful tool in many ways. You can turn it into a portable digital photo album too, albeit poor quality...) She liked that. At one point she asked what was in the bucket, I said protein powder and she said $B!H (Bnomitai! $B!I (B and I said $B!H (B5 fun dake areba, nomeru yo. $B!I (B (If you have 5 minutes I can give you a taste). But she refused to go to my apartment and I didn $B!G (Bt press the issue, I just reconfirmed our fun date on Tuesday, and gave her a kiss goodnight, then took off. ---------------------------------- -T]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/feed/ 0 Meeting Psychicbabe http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com How Maniac met psychicbabe (who he later laid). Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. [a discussion about BFs, casual sex..etc, then ensued] Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/feed/ 0 What to do when your chick catches you with another chick! http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! From: nightlight9@hotmail.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More like "4 questions" game? Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 19:50:10 GMT You mention all these, but most of them are not very useful in the initial meeting because they are too cerebral and too random. Try ones that are more viceral. You are walking in a dark forest. How do you feel. (how she approaches life). You could to a wall with a door. What do you do? (how she approaches obsticalls). You look down and see a cup on the ground what is it made out of? (how she views wealth). You come to some water, describe it. (how she views sexuality). Always end with sexuality because it is a good topic for PU and demonstrates you are comfortable with women and people a sexual context. BookGuy, my comments are based on experience and field testing. Please do the same if you reply. -- NightLight9 Just be yourself... smooth with interesting questions and interesting answers.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? Well, if you talk about having girls always falling for you for instance, it's not NEARLY as good as actually having a couple hot girls with you saying what a hottie you are infront of the target. This is called PAWNING. Keen: I'm going to try doing the story-telling that you talked about. It's really hard though. I'm a real bad storyteller. I've been working on it today. that's my lesson today. Wakeboarder: Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over manequin in the department store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make it with the manequin and called you a little freak. Gamer: LOL (Laughing Out Loud). Wakeboarder: One more question for you Mystery. What's the meaning of life? 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There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. 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I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just kind of found myself going into it on the fly..... here we go.. The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc. PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting; especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours have an big effect on peoples' moods?". HB - "Oh, yes, definitely." PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?" HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really" PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired, you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's imagining being sleepy). HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.) PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?" 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I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

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So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

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about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


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the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

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is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

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cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

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old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

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think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

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the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

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Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

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about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

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her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

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etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

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trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

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At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

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both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

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as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

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So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

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At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

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part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

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an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

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talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

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hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

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interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

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I tell her it is her job to find some good ones while I call the US. Then I

"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

that line means, but I could tell that you just really enjoy sex, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Anyway, find

your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

type as I said before, am I right?" I have never had a girl tell me "no" to

this one yet, so she of course is no different.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Plus I have already planted this

suggesting earlier on the way to the hotel, so its sure fire.  Order Strattera online c.o.d, HER: "Yes?c"ME: "OK, go stand by the window"She goes to stand by the window, I go turn off all the lights and come over to

her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

with foreign actors, etc. and how they always kiss, etc, buy Strattera from mexico.  at this point, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. 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I had given her alternatives between my place and eating in Tachikawa nearby (but both already had the presuppostion that we are meeting for a date, so I don $B!G (Bt care which she chooses). She chose Italian in Tachikawa which is perfect cause eating carbs increases seratonin (=relaxation), so I will lay on the patterning after a while, maybe even order a glass of wine (more seratonin and romance) for us both. Then its a 5 minute taxi ride back to my place! Anyway, we keep talking. I get that she never has met a foreigner, that she likes Richard Gere, cause he is $B!H (BShibui $B!I (B. $B!! (B(=quiet, simple, sober, tasteful, austere, parsimonious, etc.) I asked her about her ideal man while doing the (SP) thing. She really accessed a lot and I was awakening her creative centers. I touched her a lot on the arm to anchor the good feelings. She said she really was too ideal, but that her ideal guy was like her father, sweet and nice. 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ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM


OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get

some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip

to Japan.  Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we

should all try to report in to make things more helpful to guys who need to

learn. Believe me, it will help you learn too when you write your reports this

way and you go over what you did and piece together the things that made it

successful, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Then you will be less likely to forget the flashes of genius you had

and make sure you incorporate them into your technique again later on.


So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking

about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to

the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

she has said yes to email, Buy no prescription Strattera online, its not so hard to say yes to meeting later. Once she

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she agrees to meet now, its not so hard to agree to drop by the hotel. Once she

is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

have found that some of my best work comes when I have the least intent to try

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old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

searching for TPUA in the mASF archive here, it was posted in December of 2001 I

think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

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the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name

on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

anyway because of the direction she was walking.  Buy Strattera without a prescription, She reacted in a really

confused but generally helpful manner, seeming totally unable to speak English,

but pointing me in the right direction.


Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

meantime, you can also find links on the site to read reviews and buy his Ebook)

about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

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her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

adventure.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Anyway, I got the reply "it's the same way Im going", then I

started asking her basic questions in English like "do you speak English?",

etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

to live in Japan, but that I was on a business trip, just trying to get back to

my hotel, purchase Strattera online. I found out that she worked at a clothes store nearby, etc. I find out

that she is one station beyond me, and I remark that its coincidental, she

agrees and smiles, I anchor by touching her arm near her elbow, Buy Strattera No Prescription. After some basic

fluff like this, I say actually I am trying to practice my Japanese again, and

that its nice to have run into her and had a chance to practice. I joke that I

can teach her English too. I say Im serious about improving my Japanese and that

I even bought a Japanese PDA to help me practice.  Order Strattera from mexican pharmacy, Here I pull out the Sony Clie

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just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

had accidentally wiped all my data a few days before), it just looks like I am

trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

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I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

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ME: "I have to leave tomorrow, but it would be nice if we could get together

before then. What are you doing tomorrow?"HER: "Nothing, Online buy Strattera without a prescription, its my day off."ME: "Great, we should do something then"HER: "OK".

ME: "Sounds good!" I touch her arm again where I have been touching her often

when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

judgements and turn off her phone, etc.), but again, I am leading the situation,

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ME: "But wait, Im not sure about?c" Im implying that something will go wrong

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off here for a second and discuss this more" She is hesitant, buy cheap Strattera no rx, but I smile, and

as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman

to act against her hesitation instincts.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes

her to unconsciously and naturally move in the direction of the I want her to in

much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

hand. It combines the positive anchor and pleasant sensations to make it all the

more likely to succeed.  Where can i find Strattera online, I use it to get women into taxis with me, etc., its

gold. Think of it as a gentle nudge in the right direction J


So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

that I have to do. I have to call the US, but if you don't mind waiting while I

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simple English book to read, its really interesting!"


At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

is behind me, and now Im into a familiar mode that we can call PLRM "Pre Lay

Relaxation Mode". Basically you just have to be very natural about everything

you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

"romantic type" (setting a frame for later) you are going to love the view

from the room of the city lights, etc. etc, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

am always engaging her attention. In Japanese this is especially effective

because the listener is always called on to be polite and constantly respond at

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From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. 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Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" 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I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. 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I don't know really" PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired, you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's imagining being sleepy). HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.) PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?" 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I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get

some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip

to Japan.  Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we

should all try to report in to make things more helpful to guys who need to

learn. Believe me, it will help you learn too when you write your reports this

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and make sure you incorporate them into your technique again later on.


So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking

about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to

the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

she has said yes to email, Buy no prescription Strattera online, its not so hard to say yes to meeting later. Once she

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she agrees to meet now, its not so hard to agree to drop by the hotel. Once she

is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

have found that some of my best work comes when I have the least intent to try

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that stirs a desire in me and I just go to work.  Strattera over the counter, My 2 hour lay of the 20 year

old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

searching for TPUA in the mASF archive here, it was posted in December of 2001 I

think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

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just transparent enough for me to make out that she was wearing G-string

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the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name

on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

anyway because of the direction she was walking.  Buy Strattera without a prescription, She reacted in a really

confused but generally helpful manner, seeming totally unable to speak English,

but pointing me in the right direction.


Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

meantime, you can also find links on the site to read reviews and buy his Ebook)

about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

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but I wanted her curiosity to be peaked, and I also wanted to pull away to make

her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

adventure.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Anyway, I got the reply "it's the same way Im going", then I

started asking her basic questions in English like "do you speak English?",

etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

to live in Japan, but that I was on a business trip, just trying to get back to

my hotel, purchase Strattera online. I found out that she worked at a clothes store nearby, etc. I find out

that she is one station beyond me, and I remark that its coincidental, she

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that its nice to have run into her and had a chance to practice. I joke that I

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just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

had accidentally wiped all my data a few days before), it just looks like I am

trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

more than 5 minutes before my stop, so I am eliciting availability, not values.

I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

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ME: "I have to leave tomorrow, but it would be nice if we could get together

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ME: "Sounds good!" I touch her arm again where I have been touching her often

when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

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ME: "But wait, Im not sure about?c" Im implying that something will go wrong

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off here for a second and discuss this more" She is hesitant, buy cheap Strattera no rx, but I smile, and

as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman

to act against her hesitation instincts.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes

her to unconsciously and naturally move in the direction of the I want her to in

much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

hand. It combines the positive anchor and pleasant sensations to make it all the

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gold. Think of it as a gentle nudge in the right direction J


So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

that I have to do. I have to call the US, but if you don't mind waiting while I

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simple English book to read, its really interesting!"


At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

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you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

"romantic type" (setting a frame for later) you are going to love the view

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All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

am always engaging her attention. In Japanese this is especially effective

because the listener is always called on to be polite and constantly respond at

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So with enough of this we arrive at my room. I act totally relaxed, offer her to

sit down, and get her a drink of her choice.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, She gets beer, I get water. I hand

her the book "1001 Sex Secrets Every Man Should Know". It's a small

pocketbook with really simple one or two sentence "secrets" that are just

comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to

understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my

computer. I engage her here and there so she doesn't feel ignored. Then before

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"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

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your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

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her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

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ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. She said give me your number and I said, $B!H (BAh, but I know women, if I give you my number you will get nervous and never call. $B!I (B She said $B!H (BNo, that wont happen I promise. $B!I (B I knew I didn $B!G (Bt have enough rapport or anything to believe that, so really what I was just doing was stalling till I could set up a firm date. I got a pen and wrote my number and at this point we are standing on the corner near my place. I play on Japanese cuteness and write my name with hearts by it. (None of this is stuff I would be able to do in the US.) Then I say, OK, when are we going to meet. Its sort of a way to pace the ongoing reality now that she has my number,its a logical extension. The number is just a formality to me, I want to set up the date. After some negotiation, I get a date set up for 6 PM Tuesday, her day off. I had given her alternatives between my place and eating in Tachikawa nearby (but both already had the presuppostion that we are meeting for a date, so I don $B!G (Bt care which she chooses). She chose Italian in Tachikawa which is perfect cause eating carbs increases seratonin (=relaxation), so I will lay on the patterning after a while, maybe even order a glass of wine (more seratonin and romance) for us both. Then its a 5 minute taxi ride back to my place! Anyway, we keep talking. I get that she never has met a foreigner, that she likes Richard Gere, cause he is $B!H (BShibui $B!I (B. $B!! (B(=quiet, simple, sober, tasteful, austere, parsimonious, etc.) I asked her about her ideal man while doing the (SP) thing. She really accessed a lot and I was awakening her creative centers. I touched her a lot on the arm to anchor the good feelings. She said she really was too ideal, but that her ideal guy was like her father, sweet and nice. I asked if she wanted a guy who made her feel safe, and she said yes. I compared our hand sizes and got kino, remarked at how small her hands were, that my big hands could protect her. Complemented her smile and said that it seems like her eyes smile too and she said that she is often told that. She said I was skillful at complementing and I said that I really meant it. I mirrored her body positions a lot and this seemed to have a good effect. She seemed really into it and wasn $B!G (Bt trying too hard to get away despite it being after midnight and having to work the next day, only bringing up the time when I did. She was rubbing her earlobe, and later playing with her ponytail in a really sexy way, all with the doggy dinner bowl look. I also showed kanji ability and had her write her name, and demonstrated how we could study English together, all using the Zaurus. (BTW, Did you buy one yet, Maniac? A useful tool in many ways. You can turn it into a portable digital photo album too, albeit poor quality...) She liked that. At one point she asked what was in the bucket, I said protein powder and she said $B!H (Bnomitai! $B!I (B and I said $B!H (B5 fun dake areba, nomeru yo. $B!I (B (If you have 5 minutes I can give you a taste). But she refused to go to my apartment and I didn $B!G (Bt press the issue, I just reconfirmed our fun date on Tuesday, and gave her a kiss goodnight, then took off. ---------------------------------- -T]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/feed/ 0 Meeting Psychicbabe http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com How Maniac met psychicbabe (who he later laid). Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. [a discussion about BFs, casual sex..etc, then ensued] Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/feed/ 0 What to do when your chick catches you with another chick! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. She said give me your number and I said, $B!H (BAh, but I know women, if I give you my number you will get nervous and never call. $B!I (B She said $B!H (BNo, that wont happen I promise. $B!I (B I knew I didn $B!G (Bt have enough rapport or anything to believe that, so really what I was just doing was stalling till I could set up a firm date. I got a pen and wrote my number and at this point we are standing on the corner near my place. I play on Japanese cuteness and write my name with hearts by it. (None of this is stuff I would be able to do in the US.) Then I say, OK, when are we going to meet. Its sort of a way to pace the ongoing reality now that she has my number,its a logical extension. The number is just a formality to me, I want to set up the date. After some negotiation, I get a date set up for 6 PM Tuesday, her day off. I had given her alternatives between my place and eating in Tachikawa nearby (but both already had the presuppostion that we are meeting for a date, so I don $B!G (Bt care which she chooses). She chose Italian in Tachikawa which is perfect cause eating carbs increases seratonin (=relaxation), so I will lay on the patterning after a while, maybe even order a glass of wine (more seratonin and romance) for us both. Then its a 5 minute taxi ride back to my place! Anyway, we keep talking. I get that she never has met a foreigner, that she likes Richard Gere, cause he is $B!H (BShibui $B!I (B. $B!! (B(=quiet, simple, sober, tasteful, austere, parsimonious, etc.) I asked her about her ideal man while doing the (SP) thing. She really accessed a lot and I was awakening her creative centers. I touched her a lot on the arm to anchor the good feelings. She said she really was too ideal, but that her ideal guy was like her father, sweet and nice. I asked if she wanted a guy who made her feel safe, and she said yes. I compared our hand sizes and got kino, remarked at how small her hands were, that my big hands could protect her. Complemented her smile and said that it seems like her eyes smile too and she said that she is often told that. She said I was skillful at complementing and I said that I really meant it. I mirrored her body positions a lot and this seemed to have a good effect. She seemed really into it and wasn $B!G (Bt trying too hard to get away despite it being after midnight and having to work the next day, only bringing up the time when I did. She was rubbing her earlobe, and later playing with her ponytail in a really sexy way, all with the doggy dinner bowl look. I also showed kanji ability and had her write her name, and demonstrated how we could study English together, all using the Zaurus. (BTW, Did you buy one yet, Maniac? A useful tool in many ways. You can turn it into a portable digital photo album too, albeit poor quality...) She liked that. At one point she asked what was in the bucket, I said protein powder and she said $B!H (Bnomitai! $B!I (B and I said $B!H (B5 fun dake areba, nomeru yo. $B!I (B (If you have 5 minutes I can give you a taste). But she refused to go to my apartment and I didn $B!G (Bt press the issue, I just reconfirmed our fun date on Tuesday, and gave her a kiss goodnight, then took off. ---------------------------------- -T]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? Well, if you talk about having girls always falling for you for instance, it's not NEARLY as good as actually having a couple hot girls with you saying what a hottie you are infront of the target. This is called PAWNING. Keen: I'm going to try doing the story-telling that you talked about. It's really hard though. I'm a real bad storyteller. I've been working on it today. that's my lesson today. Wakeboarder: Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over manequin in the department store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make it with the manequin and called you a little freak. Gamer: LOL (Laughing Out Loud). Wakeboarder: One more question for you Mystery. What's the meaning of life? Mystery: To fuck. :)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/feed/ 0 Using innuendo to do a pickup http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using Innuendo in PU! From: whoisthis19@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Flirtation briskly crushed Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:47:31 GMT In article <3A3ABF23.226088D4@anymsnaddress.com>, Bill <bgates@anymsnaddress.com> wrote: > Greg, I don't wish to sound totally clueless, but could you tell us how you > get to such a high degree of explicitness in a phone call intended to > hook-up with someone you just met? > > Clearly, a guy has to set a sexual frame to the phone call he makes, or > steer it in that general direction, or she, but how do you find out what she > likes to such a level of detail? God I gotta go but I'll put a few details in. I used to have a girlfriend many years ago who was an excellant flirt and great with inuendo. I modeled her and added to it over the many years. What I do is TESTS. I test the waters. Just off the top of my head here's some innuendos. Me: Hi, its' me. HER: Oh hi! ME: Your not doing somehting right now are you? HER: wha? ME: You know... DOIN... SOMETHING? At this point she'll either say she doesnt have her vibrator out right now which is cool... or she'll be shocked and resist or... she wont have a clue. No matter what all my tests are meant as jokes. I prob the waters. Test her out. See if she is a sexual woman. If not... NEXT!!! Typically I screen em on first meeting. I'll only get the number if I know she is my type. Either way I save time. I don't waste my time on woman who aren't sexually adventurous. In fact tonight a friend of mine was over. Last Saturday she had a guy over from 9 to 11 AM then one from 1 to 4... then a nother from 7 to 11... hehehehe... Not all woman are like my friend but this is the type of woman I prefer and to all you guys who will judge their character for sleeping around.... GEESH!!!! Most of the frigid gals are so boring. I like gals who are FUN! (Second blow job today!) wow!!! I'm having a good day and I havent even gone out sarging yet!!! Gotta go... off to sarge... WOOO HOOO!!! greg the gonna have fun one > > whoisthis19@my-deja.com wrote: > ...... > > > Ok so not only the movie got started but so did you. What was your > > mindset? Was it: I'm gonna do this stuff to her and it'll make her > > horny or... I know what she wants and I'll give it to her. You see... > > your shooting in the dark here. From your phone calls and illicitation > > you should have gotten a clue on what to do here. My phone calls I > > usually find out if she likes oral, anal... ect... I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 PU’s in a college drinking party setting! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. Usually, we know eachother some way or another, but never slept together or even kissed before. You just start meeting girls at the different sororities, dorms, co-ops, not to mention all the girls that live off-campus...you form kind of a web linking hundreds of cute girls. You don't have the time to seduce and fuck all of them, so you only go for the nines and tens(which are pretty rare in Berkeley), but you'll see the other cuties around...some of which will be a willing partner you'll get crazy with at a party. I've been with three chicks who live in the same house as me this semester out of the 14 that live here...all drunken one nighters, and they were so much fun. One was a nine, and two eights(not included Bernie, yet). There were two other times that I totally didn't remember anything from the night before and woke up naked looking at the back of a girl's head. I thought that was super cool. Both times I was like "Whoa...I fucked so and so last night...how wild". I mean, when you're in a large university you meet a whole lot of girls everywhere, and you see them at parties all the time. A whole lot of girls want to get drunk and crazy, just like guys do. You just have to be decent looking, wild, crazy, and fun(this is where the booze helps you get with the drunk chicks, because you'll need to be extra outgoing to even get their attention)...and it helps that you be the alpha male at the party. I still don't understand why a lot of guys on here don't like drunk chicks...they are the funnest of all. They'll do things they're too afraid of when they're sober...such as act crazy and wild, they'll screw in the bathroom, let you feel them up in front of a hundred people while tonguing them down, they hook up with you when you never would otherwise(such as nailing a cute little stoner chick in a mini-skirt, when you are the most clean cut guy in the world)hell...once, I even frenched three drunk girls(all friends) one after the other. So, if you don't like my wild frat boy method...fine. It's your loss that you're not open to different methods of nailing women. I'm not the only guy at this school that nails chicks like crazy doing this kind of thing...you should see some of these crazy fratboys. Granted, 95% of fratboys are loser AFC's, but there are a few that nail chicks left and right without even having a clue about Ross Jeffries or Maniac High. They do it just by being ultra-confident and wild with women. It doesn't even necessarily have to be at a party, either. The only thing is that you have to be very careful...no really means no with a super drunk chick...no matter what...if there is a little too much resistence, back off...you don't want legal problems. I've had resistence happen two times...and I wasn't about to push it, so I stopped, and walked them out. I'm not putting down you guys that don't like to party, but I do like to party, and I lay chicks that way just as well as going through the whole seduction checkoff list...I always have a super great time, and I bring home chicks from crazy nights all the time. I'll be more specific with how I do this in my next post. I just got back from class and I have a little time to kill before I go to work. Oh...by the way...I decided to make Bernie a little project, since I was slammed so bad...I couldn't live it down if I didn't fuck her soon. I'll fill you people in with the story when it happens. I also really want to piss off Julie some more. I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just kind of found myself going into it on the fly..... here we go.. The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc. PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting; especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours have an big effect on peoples' moods?". HB - "Oh, yes, definitely." PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?" HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really" PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired, you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's imagining being sleepy). HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.) PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?" PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual, relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually, being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with each one. You get the picture - guiding her into these states, comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;) (At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself). I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! From: nightlight9@hotmail.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More like "4 questions" game? Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 19:50:10 GMT You mention all these, but most of them are not very useful in the initial meeting because they are too cerebral and too random. Try ones that are more viceral. You are walking in a dark forest. How do you feel. (how she approaches life). You could to a wall with a door. What do you do? (how she approaches obsticalls). You look down and see a cup on the ground what is it made out of? (how she views wealth). You come to some water, describe it. (how she views sexuality). Always end with sexuality because it is a good topic for PU and demonstrates you are comfortable with women and people a sexual context. BookGuy, my comments are based on experience and field testing. Please do the same if you reply. -- NightLight9 Just be yourself... smooth with interesting questions and interesting answers.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/feed/ 0 Buy Strattera No Prescription http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/ 
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OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get

some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip

to Japan.  Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we

should all try to report in to make things more helpful to guys who need to

learn. Believe me, it will help you learn too when you write your reports this

way and you go over what you did and piece together the things that made it

successful, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Then you will be less likely to forget the flashes of genius you had

and make sure you incorporate them into your technique again later on.


So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking

about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to

the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

she has said yes to email, Buy no prescription Strattera online, its not so hard to say yes to meeting later. Once she

has said yes to meeting later, its not so hard to say yes to meeting now.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Once

she agrees to meet now, its not so hard to agree to drop by the hotel. Once she

is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

Japan I have always had really good reactions from women when wearing a suit, rx free Strattera. In

Asia in general, I think you are going to get good reactions from women when

wearing a suit, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

have found that some of my best work comes when I have the least intent to try

to pick women up.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It happens when Im just going about my life and see something

that stirs a desire in me and I just go to work.  Strattera over the counter, My 2 hour lay of the 20 year

old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

searching for TPUA in the mASF archive here, it was posted in December of 2001 I

think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

with a fine body and nice hair in front of me, Buy Strattera No Prescription. She was wearing a skirt that was

just transparent enough for me to make out that she was wearing G-string

panties. I decided I had to have that tonight, buy Strattera online no prescription, and instantly thought of using

the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name

on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

anyway because of the direction she was walking.  Buy Strattera without a prescription, She reacted in a really

confused but generally helpful manner, seeming totally unable to speak English,

but pointing me in the right direction.


Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

meantime, you can also find links on the site to read reviews and buy his Ebook)

about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

smiled, and pulled ahead of her on the escalators, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Of course I knew she would be

behind me so I already had it planned to ask her again which side of the tracks, order Strattera no prescription,

but I wanted her curiosity to be peaked, and I also wanted to pull away to make

her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

adventure.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Anyway, I got the reply "it's the same way Im going", then I

started asking her basic questions in English like "do you speak English?",

etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

to live in Japan, but that I was on a business trip, just trying to get back to

my hotel, purchase Strattera online. I found out that she worked at a clothes store nearby, etc. I find out

that she is one station beyond me, and I remark that its coincidental, she

agrees and smiles, I anchor by touching her arm near her elbow, Buy Strattera No Prescription. After some basic

fluff like this, I say actually I am trying to practice my Japanese again, and

that its nice to have run into her and had a chance to practice. I joke that I

can teach her English too. I say Im serious about improving my Japanese and that

I even bought a Japanese PDA to help me practice.  Order Strattera from mexican pharmacy, Here I pull out the Sony Clie

I bought and show it to her.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Then I use it to get her contact information. It

just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

had accidentally wiped all my data a few days before), it just looks like I am

trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

more than 5 minutes before my stop, so I am eliciting availability, not values.

I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

smiles, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

ME: "I have to leave tomorrow, but it would be nice if we could get together

before then. What are you doing tomorrow?"HER: "Nothing, Online buy Strattera without a prescription, its my day off."ME: "Great, we should do something then"HER: "OK".

ME: "Sounds good!" I touch her arm again where I have been touching her often

when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

judgements and turn off her phone, etc.), but again, I am leading the situation,

and getting gradual agreement to everything I say.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Now I go in for the kill,

this is the crucial point. I have to get her to go with me now, and to get off

with me at my stop. I wait till we hear the announcement before my stop, Buy Strattera No Prescription.

ME: "But wait, Im not sure about?c" Im implying that something will go wrong

with this plan by my tone of voice. "Look, it's a little crazy, but lets get

off here for a second and discuss this more" She is hesitant, buy cheap Strattera no rx, but I smile, and

as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman

to act against her hesitation instincts.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes

her to unconsciously and naturally move in the direction of the I want her to in

much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

hand. It combines the positive anchor and pleasant sensations to make it all the

more likely to succeed.  Where can i find Strattera online, I use it to get women into taxis with me, etc., its

gold. Think of it as a gentle nudge in the right direction J


So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

that I have to do. I have to call the US, but if you don't mind waiting while I

do that, then we can go have our drink, Buy Strattera No Prescription. In the meantime, Strattera samples, I will give you a

simple English book to read, its really interesting!"


At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

is behind me, and now Im into a familiar mode that we can call PLRM "Pre Lay

Relaxation Mode". Basically you just have to be very natural about everything

you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

"romantic type" (setting a frame for later) you are going to love the view

from the room of the city lights, etc. etc, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

am always engaging her attention. In Japanese this is especially effective

because the listener is always called on to be polite and constantly respond at

the appropriate times with head nods, "uh huh" and "yes" equivalents, etc, buy Strattera no prescription.


So with enough of this we arrive at my room. I act totally relaxed, offer her to

sit down, and get her a drink of her choice.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, She gets beer, I get water. I hand

her the book "1001 Sex Secrets Every Man Should Know". It's a small

pocketbook with really simple one or two sentence "secrets" that are just

comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to

understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my

computer. I engage her here and there so she doesn't feel ignored. Then before

the call, I sit by her and ask if she has found any favorite ideas, Buy Strattera No Prescription. She says no,

I tell her it is her job to find some good ones while I call the US. Then I

"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

that line means, but I could tell that you just really enjoy sex, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Anyway, find

your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

type as I said before, am I right?" I have never had a girl tell me "no" to

this one yet, so she of course is no different.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Plus I have already planted this

suggesting earlier on the way to the hotel, so its sure fire.  Order Strattera online c.o.d, HER: "Yes?c"ME: "OK, go stand by the window"She goes to stand by the window, I go turn off all the lights and come over to

her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

with foreign actors, etc. and how they always kiss, etc, buy Strattera from mexico.  at this point, Buy Strattera No Prescription.


ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. She said give me your number and I said, $B!H (BAh, but I know women, if I give you my number you will get nervous and never call. $B!I (B She said $B!H (BNo, that wont happen I promise. $B!I (B I knew I didn $B!G (Bt have enough rapport or anything to believe that, so really what I was just doing was stalling till I could set up a firm date. I got a pen and wrote my number and at this point we are standing on the corner near my place. I play on Japanese cuteness and write my name with hearts by it. (None of this is stuff I would be able to do in the US.) Then I say, OK, when are we going to meet. Its sort of a way to pace the ongoing reality now that she has my number,its a logical extension. The number is just a formality to me, I want to set up the date. After some negotiation, I get a date set up for 6 PM Tuesday, her day off. 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You can turn it into a portable digital photo album too, albeit poor quality...) She liked that. At one point she asked what was in the bucket, I said protein powder and she said $B!H (Bnomitai! $B!I (B and I said $B!H (B5 fun dake areba, nomeru yo. $B!I (B (If you have 5 minutes I can give you a taste). But she refused to go to my apartment and I didn $B!G (Bt press the issue, I just reconfirmed our fun date on Tuesday, and gave her a kiss goodnight, then took off. ---------------------------------- -T]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/feed/ 0 Meeting Psychicbabe http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com How Maniac met psychicbabe (who he later laid). Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. [a discussion about BFs, casual sex..etc, then ensued] Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/feed/ 0 What to do when your chick catches you with another chick! http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com How Maniac met psychicbabe (who he later laid). Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. [a discussion about BFs, casual sex..etc, then ensued] Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » meeting http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Important things to know about guys – vs – chicks thinking http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Awesome thoughts about guy thinking -vs- girl thinking! From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Chicks expecting a fuck? re: mrsex4unyc, zipjack Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:42:20 GMT References: <t4M_3.1891$Mg.65178@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991124054220.15788.00001405@ng-cm1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64822 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going >on inside a chick's head in such situations, which is why I brought >it up.. that's the point of THIS WHOLE SHIT maniac. there ARE NO DYNAMICS to a woman's head. a woman follows her emotions. you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them (or haveYOU act on her) you can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. it's a TOTALLY different process. she stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. we think "THIS BITCH HAS GOT TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!" you don't bring her flowers. she doesn't think "this guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" she thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..." see? it doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation. that's why she can't tell you about processes. some things you did made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt up then feel like being fucked. she never LOGICALLY assumed that you were going to do it, but when you did it, she liked it and was confortable enough with you NOT to stop you. From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Tue Dec 7 00:53:44 1999 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for kiss Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:39:46 GMT References: <82gh3h$cnu@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991206103946.07960.00000028@ng-fh1.aol.com> Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:66148 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) >> when I feel like feeling you up... you get felt up >> when I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back >> when I want head you suck my dick... venus, does that make sense to >you? > >Do you give this to the chick in these words? HAHAHAHA nope! :) too mechanical. too many FACTS... chicks can't process facts... they need emotions... what you do is QUOTE them stories about girls that denied you and got canned immediately... mid-date or whatever... they get the picture so that when it's time for some action, they know to start packing their fucking bags if they don't get with you... they KNOW there is no way that you are going to waste any more time with them instead of being with a sexy chick... I must say though I am mulling over outfoxer's comments and intend on replying to them when I get a clear fix on what I think. his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right now which one is the best for me. From zip@jack.com Thu Dec 16 22:06:57 1999 From: zip@jack.com (Zipjack) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: be prepared to walk Message-ID: <38590256.1448246@news.empireone.net> References: <38531550.706813@news.empireone.net> <19991212111356.23749.00000239@ng-ft1.aol.com> <3855EEB1.28CC8A2E@emjco.com> <3856d926.802175@news.empireone.net> <385760A1.95E8EFCE@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 74 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:15:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.192.122.8 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@empireone.net>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 945292508 204.192.122.8 (Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:15:08 EST Organization: EmpireOne (empireone.net) Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:67212 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:34:25 -0700, Jake Thomson <jakethomson@pop.dnvr.uswest.net> wrote: . A woman would be happy being friends >with a mannequin if it had an engaging personality and met >her emotional needs. And then, if and only if, they like the >personality, they might switch that object into a sexual >being and perceive it as he truly is. Yes, its scary to percieve men as sexual beings unless thtere's no connection. This explains why assholes get women easily....its not threatening. > >Most heterosexual men can't or won't do that. We perceive >women as sexual beings first and may or may not get around >to noticing and engaging their personality. It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly realize this. We get our >primary emotional payoff from sex and a secondary payoff >from companionship. We need sex to validate us and allow us >to experience loving feelings. Women are wired in the >opposite fashion. They need loving feelings to validate them >and allow them to experience sex. Well, we are paranoid in general about sex because many many men trash and dehamanize women who have sex with the,. if you guys really enjoy sex try being cool to the women who sex you. Neither way, by itself is >good, and both can be degrading, exploitative and >dehumanizing. ....another thing I never realized....WOW! I never thought a guy could consider himself "used" in this way and I had no idea it was so degrading. I don't think most women realize this, and its a good thing because we'd never talk to any of you anymore! > >IMO, the reason the guys turn off and give you the cold >shoulder is because you're negating their humanity. They >eventually realize that they're just objects with a >personality to be exploited for entertainment purposes, and >they, rightfully, get a bit miffed about it. If a woman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of all other men she meets thereafter? I don't think so. Anyway, the attitude above describes the way women feel about sex. They're putting >out and meeting your emotional needs without getting the >emotional payoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you >Kate, how long and how hard would you work for somebody who >refused to pay you for your time and effort in a currency >that had meaning to you? Not long. The thing is, there needs to be some middle ground. You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate From: "Vincent Runza" <blubobbi@ulster.net> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: sponsibility Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <s5l05jd3qrs17@corp.supernews.com> Dear Alex, I'm glad I un-killfiled Kate - check this out: "You guys have to understand that sex WREAKS HAVOC on a woman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur experience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a woman to take significant emotional risks just to have sex with you first off is alot more than you may realize. Kate" And: "You guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about women's total denial that they are going to be involved in a sexual situation at all. Basically, if a woman faces up to the physical mental and social implications of having sex she'll end up hiding in her room for 30 years, so she denies it and then "it just kind of happenned". Now, i for one, never took this approach, but for vigilance I paid in paranoia. its just not as easy for women. Its never "just sex"." Got it? Regards, Vince > For some reason I was thinking a woman in her 30s wouldn't > be afraid to let herself take the responsibility for having > sex, but I guess they're not all like that, especially when > it comes to first-night sex. > > Alex]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/important-things-to-know-about-guys-vs-chicks-thinking/feed/ 0 A conversation with Mystery! Pickups http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A conversation with Mystery! Tips on fieldwork from a pick up artist! on IRC #PUA! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Conversation with Mystery, a Pick-up Artist (PUA) Topics Include: The Kiss Close Clubbing alone Handling guys Being a story-teller Preparation and format Quality vs. quantity Lego: Hey Mystery, what's your favorite story to close with? How exactly do you transition from the telling of a story to closing? Mystery: "The Kiss Close" is my favorite routine. Once you have three indicators of interest (she touches you, laughs consistantly at your jokes, leans in towards you, smiles a lot and keeps eye contact, resumes chat when you force silence, etc) you then phase shift. You turn 180 degrees on a dime. Go from humorous and non-sexual to saying, "Stop. Would you like to kiss me?", right out of the blue. She will say either say, "Uh - no",(which is unlikely as you don't bother performing "The Kiss Close" until enough indicators are present) or, "I donno" (they rarely say, "Yes"). "I donno" means she actually does want to but feels embarrassed on how to say "Yes". So you reply, "Lets find out", then go in slowly and kiss her. It's very simple and very effective. If she says, "Why?", this is also a yes. Simply reply, "It looked like you had something on your mind. Would you like to kiss me?" Wait again for her response. If her response is "No" then reply, "Hey I didn't say you COULD. You just had that look in your eye." Lego: What do you do if you're interrupted? You're telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you're like, "What the fuck?" Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen. When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, "Fetch." Wakeboarder: Hahaha. Nice! Lego: What if he's bigger than you? Mystery: I'd instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, "Dude, what are you attempting here?" Not good enough? Then say, "Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?" Wakeboarder: Man, none of my buds want to go to the club. Gamer: Screw them then. Mystery: Go alone. Wakeboarder: I need to be made fun of for this comment but I feel like a weiner if I go to a club myself Lego: Bro, your trippin'. I go solo many times. It's good actually. It's weird if it's a first night but if I've been there before it's cool. Mystery: Yeah, I understand ... and yet, staying home alone will make you feel so much better? Go out alone, meet some cool dudes when you get there (they will become your wingmen there) and then run around getting #'s. Report to your fellow PUAs what happened. Whatever happened to the concept, "The alphamale gets all the women?" Shit dude, what are you, a mommas boy? Do you need your hand held? Lego: How do you strike up conversations with guys? Mystery: Walk up and say, "Hey dude, question for ya. Do you know where a good place to score is in this city? 'Cause this place looks like a cock farm." Lego: Good! You should be able to relate to guys to disarm them. You don't compete; you ELIMINATE COMPETETION. Gamer: LOL. Dude, the only results I've had were solo. My friends psych me out too much because they never help. Instead they just complain about my taking too much time. They laugh at me or just generally piss me off. Mystery: I have MUCH better results (and MUCH more fun) playing "The Game" alone. It forces you to approach. It's a great motivator. Lego: Damn! I couldn't have put it better myself. Gamer: Yep. Mystery: You wont be alone for more than five minutes once you approach your first set anyways. Gamer, I suggest you call them on their shit at some point. Demonstrate your alphamale characteristics. Lego: How do you continue talking? I mean, group set dynamics are much different in a one one on one approach. Mystery: Be a story-teller - THAT is the skill of the PUA. It isn't SEDUCING; it's STORY-TELLING. It is my personal belief that SS patterns arent as 'hypnotic' as they are 'entertaining' stories. Wakeboarder: Sweet Lego: Actually with the story stuff I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. They just follow that lead. Wakeboarder: Well, I need to stop being a sackless wonder and grow some fuckin' balls then! Hmm, story telling ... Mystery: Here's an example. "Ever been camping? Well I was up in a forest up north and was hiking with some girlfriends of mine ... and we came along some trail and there was shit on the path. My friends were like, "haaaa someone shit in the woods" and I said, "lets get the fuck out of here like NOW." they thought I was just scared of shit and I said, "Girls, you dont get it. This shit is still warm and its not human. Its bear shit. This is a big fucking bear. Look at the size of that turd." Notice it's not sexual? Most hot girls gets get "sex-talk" right away from AFCs. NOT talking sex with them makes them question whether you are interested in them. Leave them guessing until you get indicators of interest from them. If they like your great personality (confident, humorous, etc) they will give you subtle but distinct clues. Gamer: How do you flow from story to story? Mystery: If there is ONE mental state you should force yourself into, its TALKATIVE. Talk your fucking HEAD off. Just go from one story straight into another one like a comedian does. Ever find yourself excited about something and you talk and talk and talk? THAT is what must happen to get a girl. You have to ENTERTAIN them. Look talkative yet not desperate. Gamer: Heh. Lego: Dude, I had that going last night. You're so right. That's an excellent example dude. I was telling this story about getting harassed by cops or some shit. It's a cool story but my delivery sucked and I was losing one of the two girls I was telling it to. What if they fail to elaborate on your story? Besides it being a bad story to begin with, how can you fix it on the fly? Mystery: They don't have to interact with it. Its a good thing to have flexible stories to allow for some comment but it's not nessessary. It's YOUR job to perform the material. It's your audiences job to listen,laugh and generally be entertained. That's it. At the end of 10 minutes you will see the girls digging you (positive indicators). You then phase shift abruptly into the close. Lego: HOW DO YOU PHASE SHIFT? I've been wondering this. While I didn't come off as obvious in last nights case and just told her to kiss me (I knew she would anyway), this could have been smoother. Alpha: Lego, you ad libbed the close? So working on ad libbing is good? Mystery: Ad libbed material is not as accurate in closing as is performing the well constructed and field-tested "Kiss Close" routine. Ad libbing is BONUS material but don't COUNT on it. Have your material, like a good comedian, prepared before performing. This isn't "A Night at the Improv" fellas. Gamer: Heh. Mystery: All PUs have a format; a beginning, a middle and an end. If you don't know what the next routine is going to be then you may end up with an unfortunate pregnant pause which fucks up your pacing. You may end up filling the silence with the deadly, "So ... um ... what do you do?" Preparation saves face. Afterall, with your particular close, she could have pulled away from your trying to kiss her. Then what?!! Instead, consider engaging her in enthusiastic conversation, then go directly into the close. In other words, stop her in mid-sentence and with a curious tone, kiss close. Wakeboarder: cool. Lego, what indicators clued you in that she wanted the kiss? Alpha: In what way can you be prepared? If we're talking about story-telling in front of a random girl we just met seconds ago in a random place ... Mystery: Like a good comedian, have your material prepared yet when onstage be prepared to dynamically omit certain routines and to add others on the fly. Sometimes certain routines fit the situation better than others. Have 3 to 5 alternative openers (as a comedian would) and enjoy performing the one you think best fits the situation will get the best reaction for the group you are in front of Alpha: Gotcha now. Can you give me a brief example of how you go about preparing? Mystery: Sure. First, find 3 openers and memorize them. Write down a list of openers (just the headings of each opener to remind you). Next, write down some routines (the question game, the music game, the photo routine, the bear in the woods story, etc - all on dejanews) and then also memorize the kiss close and the # close. Memorize 3 NEGs too and you are good to go. With the material in your mind, you are prepared to work it in the field until you have the timing of the material down (again, just like a comedian.) Alpha: Man, you provide some really eye-opening ideas... (just when I'm about to think there's nothing more to learn. Wakeboarder: So what you're saying is have a routine set up and modify it to each situation? Kind of like having a PU template? Mystery: It's ALL about format. Know the format and stick to it. If you now what the next step is in the PU, you wont feel scared. It gets fun and you begin to appreciate the strategy behind it all. Wakeboarder: Yeah like FMAC? That's a simple format. Mystery: Yes, FMAC. Each letter in FMAC is an abrupt phase shift. "FIND" means having to abruptly disturb your complacency by getting out of the house. It takes effort for many people to do bother getting THIS FAR. "MEET" is a HUGE abrupt change. "There she is! 3, 2, 1, GO!" In the "ATTRACT" phase, you need to go from the walk up to the TALKATIVE performer entertaining story-teller. You will need A LOT of energy for this (enthusiasm is contagious afterall) and for many to go from slumping around to being in performer mode is ABRUPT. Finally you must then "CLOSE"; to phase shift from humour to serious is also abrupt. Each phase may FEEL awkward but it looks normal. When a comedian finishes one topic and just goes into an entirely new unrelated topic, the audience doesn't care as long as the next topic is entertaining. Wakeboarder: Very true. Gamer: Cool. I'm collecting openers and other routines off the layguide right now. Alpha: Do you believe in the 80/20 'rule'? Meaning, 80% of the quality women are found in 20% of the right places or connections or situations. Mystery: The quality of a woman is SO subjective. Quality is difficult to QUANTIFY. 80% of QUALITY? It's pointless trying to mix and match these concepts. INSTEAD consider that there are HOTTIES and UGs (YOU get to decide based on your personal criteria) and of the HOTTIES, some have pleasant personalities and others do not. You cannot possibly judge her personality until she LIKES you. So go out ... FIND her, MEET her, ATTRACT her and THEN decide if you want to CLOSE her AFTER judging her personality. Judging her by the way she treats you on your approach is lame because particularly beautiful women all have their bitch shields up and running. They have to. They aren't planning on fucking every guy that says Hi to them. The only way to get rid of the guys is to oftentimes offend them quickly. It's not personal. It's merely a learned strategy. So is the "I have a boyfriend excuse, but that's a different story. I also suggest CLOSING everyone just for the education. You don't actually have to CALL the girls of course. You simply get to practice CLOSING too. Getting a girls number is merely an OPTION. You don't have to follow up on ALL of them you know. Keen: Heh. Wakeboarder: Cool, judging the girls only after you have attracted them. Kind of makes you approach too! You can't say the bull shit line, "She's not my type, I can tell", to get you out of approaching. Alpha: Do you have a web page? Mystery: No, not currently. I'm writing a book though called The Mystery Method. Most of my ramblings can be found on the layguide. Ascence: Hey, is it true that the older we get the more money/social status becomes and issue? Mystery: No matter what social status you have (or THINK you have), it's still something you must convey in the first 25 minutes of meeting her. We ALL start equal BEFORE meeting her; all men. The issue is, can we congruently convey our social status (real or not) in our performance? That's OUR responsibility. The best way is not to TELL them about it but rather to DEMONSTRATE it. How? Well, if you talk about having girls always falling for you for instance, it's not NEARLY as good as actually having a couple hot girls with you saying what a hottie you are infront of the target. This is called PAWNING. Keen: I'm going to try doing the story-telling that you talked about. It's really hard though. I'm a real bad storyteller. I've been working on it today. that's my lesson today. Wakeboarder: Tell them about that time you saw a fallen over manequin in the department store and you tripped over it. The security guard thought you were trying to make it with the manequin and called you a little freak. Gamer: LOL (Laughing Out Loud). Wakeboarder: One more question for you Mystery. What's the meaning of life? Mystery: To fuck. :)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/a-conversation-with-mystery-pickups/feed/ 0 Using innuendo to do a pickup http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using Innuendo in PU! From: whoisthis19@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Flirtation briskly crushed Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:47:31 GMT In article <3A3ABF23.226088D4@anymsnaddress.com>, Bill <bgates@anymsnaddress.com> wrote: > Greg, I don't wish to sound totally clueless, but could you tell us how you > get to such a high degree of explicitness in a phone call intended to > hook-up with someone you just met? > > Clearly, a guy has to set a sexual frame to the phone call he makes, or > steer it in that general direction, or she, but how do you find out what she > likes to such a level of detail? God I gotta go but I'll put a few details in. I used to have a girlfriend many years ago who was an excellant flirt and great with inuendo. I modeled her and added to it over the many years. What I do is TESTS. I test the waters. Just off the top of my head here's some innuendos. Me: Hi, its' me. HER: Oh hi! ME: Your not doing somehting right now are you? HER: wha? ME: You know... DOIN... SOMETHING? At this point she'll either say she doesnt have her vibrator out right now which is cool... or she'll be shocked and resist or... she wont have a clue. No matter what all my tests are meant as jokes. I prob the waters. Test her out. See if she is a sexual woman. If not... NEXT!!! Typically I screen em on first meeting. I'll only get the number if I know she is my type. Either way I save time. I don't waste my time on woman who aren't sexually adventurous. In fact tonight a friend of mine was over. Last Saturday she had a guy over from 9 to 11 AM then one from 1 to 4... then a nother from 7 to 11... hehehehe... Not all woman are like my friend but this is the type of woman I prefer and to all you guys who will judge their character for sleeping around.... GEESH!!!! Most of the frigid gals are so boring. I like gals who are FUN! (Second blow job today!) wow!!! I'm having a good day and I havent even gone out sarging yet!!! Gotta go... off to sarge... WOOO HOOO!!! greg the gonna have fun one > > whoisthis19@my-deja.com wrote: > ...... > > > Ok so not only the movie got started but so did you. What was your > > mindset? Was it: I'm gonna do this stuff to her and it'll make her > > horny or... I know what she wants and I'll give it to her. You see... > > your shooting in the dark here. From your phone calls and illicitation > > you should have gotten a clue on what to do here. My phone calls I > > usually find out if she likes oral, anal... ect... I'm not kidding. > > Obviously you just decided to guess at what to do and it didnt work. > > > > ...... > > -- Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-innuendo-to-do-a-pickup/feed/ 0 PU’s in a college drinking party setting! http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com PU'ing in a college alcohol and party setting! From rush274@aol.com Wed Apr 26 08:43:56 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: College-Aged Drunken Debauchery Lines: 73 Wow...I just got slammed by everyone on here with that cockblock story. I'm begining to think you guys have a limited idea of how to lay chicks. There are more ways than the method on asf. Of course I also use a lot of Maniac's and Tony's theories...they're great, and I've laid tons of chicks that way. But, I also do something that no-one has talked about on here. I mean, if you're getting laid, what method you use is really not relevent, as long as you do get laid. It's like this...I know tons of girls at school here...and yes...I get drunk and crazy with a whole lot of girls at some of these parties. Don't get me wrong...I use Maniac's, Tony's, and Ross' stuff a lot...like when I meet super hot chicks in normal situations, or normal little get togethers. But, what some of you guys don't understand, is that there are a lot of girls who just love to party and get crazy with guys that can sweep them off their feet...literally. Yeah...I love to party...and I swing around all kinds of girls at these things. I often come home with one of them. 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I love the contemptuous look that feminist gives me when she sees me coming and going with different girls. -Rush]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pus-in-a-college-drinking-party-setting/feed/ 0 Using the ‘color’ game to PU! http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Using the 'color game' to do a PU! From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Colours Game - opinions? Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT Hi Guys, I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think of this and how it might be improved..... I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes. 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I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony is disgusted as well as pleased!!) What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet, claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the results.... Any suggestions or comments? Tony -- 'Action' is the magic word]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/using-the-color-game-to-pu/feed/ 0 Game: Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Nightlight introduces 'forest game'! 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ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM


OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some

prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get

some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip

to Japan.  Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we

should all try to report in to make things more helpful to guys who need to

learn. Believe me, it will help you learn too when you write your reports this

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and make sure you incorporate them into your technique again later on.


So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the

things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking

about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in

report itself):


Keys to the Lay:


Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to

the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once

she has said yes to email, Buy no prescription Strattera online, its not so hard to say yes to meeting later. Once she

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she agrees to meet now, its not so hard to agree to drop by the hotel. Once she

is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay

with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there

cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.




Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in

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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.


Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day


Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers


This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all

happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in

fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I

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old Japanese girl in Boston was the same way (you can read that post by

searching for TPUA in the mASF archive here, it was posted in December of 2001 I

think).


Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another

for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the

guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for

me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they

know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.


As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)

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the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed

something initially innocent, and this was perfect.


So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and

said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name

on the napkin.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Of course it helped that I knew that was where she was going

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confused but generally helpful manner, seeming totally unable to speak English,

but pointing me in the right direction.


Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA

with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your

level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the

meantime, you can also find links on the site to read reviews and buy his Ebook)

about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,

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her think my intentions were 100% pure.


I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go

anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I

could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which

side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told

her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little

adventure.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Anyway, I got the reply "it's the same way Im going", then I

started asking her basic questions in English like "do you speak English?",

etc.  Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a

little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,

not sure if it was here or later.


Anyway, I just went into speaking a little Japanese, confided to her that I used

to live in Japan, but that I was on a business trip, just trying to get back to

my hotel, purchase Strattera online. I found out that she worked at a clothes store nearby, etc. I find out

that she is one station beyond me, and I remark that its coincidental, she

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that its nice to have run into her and had a chance to practice. I joke that I

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just flows naturally since I can also show her that she is the first entry ( I

had accidentally wiped all my data a few days before), it just looks like I am

trying to learn how to use it. First I get her email, then I say, "while you

are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she

just goes along with this, since she already gave me her email.


The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much

more than 5 minutes before my stop, so I am eliciting availability, not values.

I say "its really nice and coincidental meeting you like this." She agrees and

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ME: "I have to leave tomorrow, but it would be nice if we could get together

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ME: "Sounds good!" I touch her arm again where I have been touching her often

when she was laughing, etc., firing off the positive anchor.

At this point I have got one key concession, its time to push for another

because we are close to my station.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, ME: "Actually, tonight might be a better time since Im still not sure of my

flight time tomorrow. We could go somewhere around here and talk for awhile. We

both wont have to get up too early, buy generic Strattera, so that should be OK, right?"HER: (somewhat hesitantly) "OK"ME: "So I can call you once we both get home, and we can figure it out"Now this is not what I want to happen (she would get home and question her

judgements and turn off her phone, etc.), but again, I am leading the situation,

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ME: "But wait, Im not sure about?c" Im implying that something will go wrong

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off here for a second and discuss this more" She is hesitant, buy cheap Strattera no rx, but I smile, and

as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also

apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so

powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a

real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman

to act against her hesitation instincts.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes

her to unconsciously and naturally move in the direction of the I want her to in

much the same way a child would when following the gentle pull of a parents

hand. It combines the positive anchor and pleasant sensations to make it all the

more likely to succeed.  Where can i find Strattera online, I use it to get women into taxis with me, etc., its

gold. Think of it as a gentle nudge in the right direction J


So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we

should do. I know it's a lot to ask, but I just have about 30 minutes of work

that I have to do. I have to call the US, but if you don't mind waiting while I

do that, then we can go have our drink, Buy Strattera No Prescription. In the meantime, Strattera samples, I will give you a

simple English book to read, its really interesting!"


At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:

"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will

leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back

and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I

further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little

bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to

you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing

that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she

has an open mind enough to read some book that might have some questionable

content.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This

part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent

material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking

about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of

skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are

qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have

an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying

"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this

is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where

I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription.  Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am

talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole

presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.

Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her

head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own

actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to

the hotel that weren't sex related.


So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU

is behind me, and now Im into a familiar mode that we can call PLRM "Pre Lay

Relaxation Mode". Basically you just have to be very natural about everything

you say and do on the way to the lay venue. There is this point in any same day

lay as you go from the decision point to your place that could get awkward if

she suddenly changes her mind, where can i buy cheapest Strattera online. I usually comment on the surroundings a bit. In

this case I was telling her about the huge soccer ball in the lobby of the

hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how

its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I

thought she would like the huge soccer ball, and that oh yeah, you will love the

interior of my room, Where can i buy Strattera online, they just redecorated all the rooms in the hotel, and its

got a cool flat panel display for a TV, and since you strike me as the

"romantic type" (setting a frame for later) you are going to love the view

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All this keeps her mind busy so she cant talk herself out of anything, cause I

am always engaging her attention. In Japanese this is especially effective

because the listener is always called on to be polite and constantly respond at

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So with enough of this we arrive at my room. I act totally relaxed, offer her to

sit down, and get her a drink of her choice.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, She gets beer, I get water. I hand

her the book "1001 Sex Secrets Every Man Should Know". It's a small

pocketbook with really simple one or two sentence "secrets" that are just

comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to

understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my

computer. I engage her here and there so she doesn't feel ignored. Then before

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"happen" to notice she has small hands, and compare my hand size to hers. This

gets good kino, it's a standard routine of mine. Then I tell her I will read

her palm, purchase Strattera online no prescription.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, I almost never do this cause I have no idea how to read palms, but I

simply look at her palm and start laughing.

HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.

HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am

shaking my head up and down while I say this in the affirmative.  Where can i order Strattera without prescription, HER: (a little bashfully) "Well, yes?c"ME: That's OK, cause of course I do too. And Im just joking, I don't know what

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your favorite sexual thing to do, then show me after I get off this call."


I figure this reading all about sex, then the talk about sex and the touching

has got her for sure, now I am fractionating and building the suspense. I call

my boss in the US, Strattera for sale, discuss business for 20 minutes, then hang up and get to

"work".


ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic

type as I said before, am I right?" I have never had a girl tell me "no" to

this one yet, so she of course is no different.  Buy Strattera No Prescription, Plus I have already planted this

suggesting earlier on the way to the hotel, so its sure fire.  Order Strattera online c.o.d, HER: "Yes?c"ME: "OK, go stand by the window"She goes to stand by the window, I go turn off all the lights and come over to

her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and

stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes

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ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"


I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a

Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me

grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string

and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me

later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J


So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real

work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can

picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,

imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review

the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there

that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you

who read it.


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-does-a-subway-pu-and-same-day-lay/feed/ 0 TPUA night PU’s HB Smallmouth and converts to a lay! http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/ [TPUA PU's a chick at night, and converts it into a lay! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com ] Date Posted: 2000/09/25 05:21:37 AM EDT Author: Tokyopua <Tokyopua@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: HB Small Mouth PU (Was Re: Calling all Tokyo PUA's) Hey Maniac, I didnt really intend that last post of mine as a field report, since it wasnt too detailed. But yeah, things have been going well on the PU despite my severely limited time. So I will attempt a bit of a field report on the initial PU here. My PU efficiency factor has been really high recently, maybe because I am only trying to PU when I feel really confident and often times when I wasnt planning on it, so was really relaxed. I did a PU on a 19 year old HB college student in the train the other night and got her home phone number. It was easy cause she was reading Tokyo Classified, and I asked her about it. I was really confident, and in only 2 stops got her to really dig me. In fact, when I asked her why she had studied English, she said "So I could meet a guy like you!" The only problem is finding time to meet her again before I leave. The PU I did on HB Small Mouth was not planned either, I just saw her walking back home around my place at midnight, and somehow knew that despite my frazled appearance after 2 hours of Jujitsu practice and carrying 40 pounds of luggage, I could do the PU on her. My opening line was "I like your hair" which I knew was lame and she must have heard often, but hey, thats the price of using the 3 second rule sometimes. I immediately followed with asking her if she was a student, what kind of work she did, etc. Oddly, I didnt use my standard opener "Do you speak english" in the whole conversation. I will post my personal notes on the rest of the PU at the end of this post just for reference, but they arent too coherent. They were the basis though for the plans I laid for the successful next date that got me laid 3 days later. (If I have time someday I will write up full notes on that too.) Total time to lay in terms of time invested was approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the progression is done just right, I think. <maniac_high@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8qfler$o1r@nnrp1.deja.com... > Tokyo PUA, > > This is an excellent report.. You really rock! > > Where / how did you originally > PU this chick though? Also, taking the chick over to see your > weight training stuff is a clever idea.. liked that..! > BTW, I thought you left already to the USA, how long are you still > there for? Right near my house in a dark alley at midnight on her way home! She told me later (post lay) that she was scared at first, but I had a really relaxed attitude so she got comfortable with me afterwards. As for the weight training stuff later, it was great kino as I had her bend over slightly and got right behind her to "help her with her form" while simultaneously letting her slightly feel the form of my stiff wood pressed against her, and other such intimate situations. Still here till Oct 14 or so, with a trip to Taiwan and maybe Hawaii too thrown in. > > ALso, do you usually go out alone, or with a wing. I noticed that > you knew quite a few people in Roppongi, I guess you get out there > quite a bit? Been out there a lot since last February, maybe 10 times or so. I guess predominantly I go with a wing, but sometimes felt it screwed up my game. Of course, my wings didnt know anything about seduction a la ASF, thats probably why. Of course, neither did I till June... I know Im much better at street PU when alone though, thats for sure! OTOH, when I went out to clubs with you and Rio, I think my game was really improved and I was learning all the time. BTW, I have heard that someplace called club Earth near hamamatucho has really hot babes, (bitch shield too, but who cares, right;-), so you guys might want to check that out. 3000 Yen cover charge. May be the new alternative to Fura? > > > I managed to lay that HB Small Mouth > > EXCELLENT! > > >Ganbatte! Im seeting HB Bi this weekend again (tonight), and HB > >small the next day, and my ex-GF the next. Im starting to feel like > >Maniac juggling girls, but nothing will happen w/ my ex, so its not > >so bad. > > Yes, I did that ALOT last year, and fucked a shitload of chicks that > I cant even count now.. > > but its really tiring and you do get sick of it after a while.. > so finally I just MLTR'd a few that I really liked, who also accepted > that I fuck other chicks, and left it at that.. guess I got to get out > more ;-) > not sure if its the right way yet, but been doing it that way > the last few months now.. We'll see ;-) I think it goes in cycles. Eventually you get tired of the MLTR's and have to replace them. To do that you will have to PU lotsa new chicks, lay them, see if they dont eject when you break the news that there are others. That takes a lot of time, so then you want to go back to the easy life of having a bunch of girls on call. Then the cycle starts over. Im just beginning to get these girls into MLTR status, but now I have to leave. But theres always business trips ack here! > > If you are planning on hanging around TOkyo though, you should > bring HB Bi and her friend to one of our fuck parties the next time.. > sounds like they'd be a good time.. maybe introduce them to Kipp or > something since I am not there right now, before you leave.. or > give me your departure date and see if they are interested and we > can setup something with all the ladies, if this is your sort of thing.. Id consider it, but it will take more effort, and probably wont be anything I can do until after Im gone and come back for business trips. You see, I worked it too good with HB Bi. She is signing her letters with "Love" at the end and is all into me now. Made me the most awesome meal any woman has ever made me, washed my clothes, gave me an amazing massage, etc. When I confronted her about our last threesome, she said that she felt jealous when she saw me doing her friend, and claimed that was the only time she had ever done something like that, that she isnt really Bi. So right now I think she somehow sees a relationship in this, despite my leaving? I figure once Im gone I can get past that as reality sinks in and maybe set up more stuff for any business trips I make back. > > Good post! > > Maniac > http://www.pickupguide.com Here are those notes I was talking about, for what they are worth: ------------------------------------------- PU of HB Small: happened in a dark alley shortcut to my house at midnight, I approached carrying a 30 pound backpack on one shoulder and a 10 pound bucket of protein powder in the other, and said, $B!H (BExcuse me, your hair is really beautiful. $B!I (B She reacted favorably and said thanks, but kept walking, slightly faster. She seemed young, so I asked if she was a student. She said no, I asked what she does. She said she works for a cable company, I fluff talked about watching TV. She asked what I do. I said I know its late but you should have coffee or tea with me at Jonathans restaurant nearby. She said no, so I said, OK, how do we meet again. She said give me your number and I said, $B!H (BAh, but I know women, if I give you my number you will get nervous and never call. $B!I (B She said $B!H (BNo, that wont happen I promise. $B!I (B I knew I didn $B!G (Bt have enough rapport or anything to believe that, so really what I was just doing was stalling till I could set up a firm date. I got a pen and wrote my number and at this point we are standing on the corner near my place. I play on Japanese cuteness and write my name with hearts by it. (None of this is stuff I would be able to do in the US.) Then I say, OK, when are we going to meet. Its sort of a way to pace the ongoing reality now that she has my number,its a logical extension. The number is just a formality to me, I want to set up the date. After some negotiation, I get a date set up for 6 PM Tuesday, her day off. I had given her alternatives between my place and eating in Tachikawa nearby (but both already had the presuppostion that we are meeting for a date, so I don $B!G (Bt care which she chooses). She chose Italian in Tachikawa which is perfect cause eating carbs increases seratonin (=relaxation), so I will lay on the patterning after a while, maybe even order a glass of wine (more seratonin and romance) for us both. Then its a 5 minute taxi ride back to my place! Anyway, we keep talking. I get that she never has met a foreigner, that she likes Richard Gere, cause he is $B!H (BShibui $B!I (B. $B!! (B(=quiet, simple, sober, tasteful, austere, parsimonious, etc.) I asked her about her ideal man while doing the (SP) thing. She really accessed a lot and I was awakening her creative centers. I touched her a lot on the arm to anchor the good feelings. She said she really was too ideal, but that her ideal guy was like her father, sweet and nice. I asked if she wanted a guy who made her feel safe, and she said yes. I compared our hand sizes and got kino, remarked at how small her hands were, that my big hands could protect her. Complemented her smile and said that it seems like her eyes smile too and she said that she is often told that. She said I was skillful at complementing and I said that I really meant it. I mirrored her body positions a lot and this seemed to have a good effect. She seemed really into it and wasn $B!G (Bt trying too hard to get away despite it being after midnight and having to work the next day, only bringing up the time when I did. She was rubbing her earlobe, and later playing with her ponytail in a really sexy way, all with the doggy dinner bowl look. I also showed kanji ability and had her write her name, and demonstrated how we could study English together, all using the Zaurus. (BTW, Did you buy one yet, Maniac? A useful tool in many ways. You can turn it into a portable digital photo album too, albeit poor quality...) She liked that. At one point she asked what was in the bucket, I said protein powder and she said $B!H (Bnomitai! $B!I (B and I said $B!H (B5 fun dake areba, nomeru yo. $B!I (B (If you have 5 minutes I can give you a taste). But she refused to go to my apartment and I didn $B!G (Bt press the issue, I just reconfirmed our fun date on Tuesday, and gave her a kiss goodnight, then took off. ---------------------------------- -T]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-night-pus-hb-smallmouth-and-converts-to-a-lay/feed/ 0 Meeting Psychicbabe http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com How Maniac met psychicbabe (who he later laid). Subject: Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Technique Date: 11/05/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Another thing to do is to use innocuous talk to switch the subject. PsychicBabe (a chick I PU'd in London last month) did this one on me (fuck she was good at this shit): -Maniac: so what kind of drink you like? -Psychicbabe: Well, I like lots of drinks, that is my problem, because I love to drink, but I have to be careful, because last year I drank too much, and I woke up the next morning in a guy's appartment and was a little bit embarrased about how I ended up there.. [a discussion about BFs, casual sex..etc, then ensued] Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/meeting-psychicbabe/feed/ 0 What to do when your chick catches you with another chick! http://www.pickupguide.com/what-to-do-when-your-chick-catches-you-with-another-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-to-do-when-your-chick-catches-you-with-another-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-to-do-when-your-chick-catches-you-with-another-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com What to do when another of your chicks catches you with another chick! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: ]Crisis Management Report! Containment breach captain!! Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:03:14 GMT ]Crisis Management Report! Containment breach captain!! 001117 {..ie. when another chick you are fucking, walks in on you and your chick!} In physics, there is something called a "matter-antimatter reaction". It happens when matter contacts with antimatter, resulting in instant enormous releases of energy, and absolute destruction and then loss of all the matter and antimatter in the original reaction. Well, the same thing can happen with chicks too! A chick-antichick reaction is when you are with one chick, and all of the sudden, another chick you are shagging makes an unexpected/unannounced entrance on you and the first chick. The subsequent result is usually very much like that antimatter reaction mentionned above,.. lots of energy is suddenly released, there is lots of destruction and then the loss of both chicks results. The solution to this of course is containment/isolation, and then maintaining that isolation/minimizing contact if a breach occurs.. which is the topic of tonight's field report, as this is exactly what happened last night with screambabe (see lay report, last week), and HBgeek, a really sexy but slightly nerdy chick I was already well into the process (ie. deep kino had already started) in a bar I was in last night. Lets look at the story, and how I handled it (the story has a happy ending BTW (well for me and HBgeek anyways, though not for screambabe), and how I was able (so far it seems) to use the incident to INCREASE my stature in the eyes of HBgeek. HBgeek loves the internet (she is a web designer or something), 27, very sweet & sexy in real life (met her on the web). My fuck up was to take her to the same place that I took screambabe before the lay last week (a bar near some fuck hotels). I thought it was safe, because I knew that screambabe's office, and work were far from this place, so there was very little possibility I would run into her (or anyone else I know) by chance there. HBgeek and I get to the bar, and I am running the "Maniac plan" as posted last week. We are sitting at the bar, and while I am in stage "S" (the questions game, already into heavy kino & handholding, however I had not yet done the KC (was only a couple minutes away from it actually; fortunately), I get a tap on my shoulder and turn around. It is screambabe.. It goes like this: Screambabe: "am I interrupting the two of you"? Maniac: "well, yes, actually I am busy right now.." (I do not lose my cool, and speak in a very slow assertive voice, like nothing special is going on) Screambabe: "I have been sitting in the back of the bar since you came in, and have seen the whole thing" Maniac: "uh huh, so?" Screambabe: "you didn't see me, did you?" Maniac: "no, not at all, in fact I wasn't even looking for you.." Screambabe: "call me tonight, will you call me tonight?" {angry} Maniac: "yes, I can call you tonight" Screambabe: "you better.." Maniac: "yes I will" Screambabe: {goes back to her seat at the back of the bar..} Maniac: {turns to HBgeek sitting next to me at the bar, continue PU} Maniac: "I dated that chick briefly, but stopped seeing her, though unfortunately, she still really likes me, as you can see" {social proof gambit here!} HBGeek: Oh, I see, that is too bad for her" Maniac: "Yes, well, things just didn't work out between us" HBGeek: "You should have told her" Maniac: "I did, but she just doesnt get it" {a total lie} HBGeek: "Oh well, oh lets get more beer (we order)" Maniac: "So where were we, oh, right, my turn for a question, what kind of house would you like to have if you could have what you want? {stage 'V' in the ManiacPlan told be HBgeek has golddigging tendencies so I am playing on this) {more questions, I have stopped all sexual talk/kino.., as now I am trying to look casual until we either finish our beer, or until Screambabe leaves the bar, initiating more kino with screambabe still around could be dangerous} 10 minutes pass.. {screambabe realizes that she didn't freak me out, that I am not leaving, and her tantrum had NO effect on me at all} Screambabe returns to my seat, and starts pinching me (which I ignore.. I say "hi"). Now screambabe is in a tough spot too, because I am by the bar, and there is lots of staff around.. it looks like she is trying to get to me, without getting attention to herself to get in trouble. Screambabe says "call me" and gives me a real evil look. Then she hits my shoulder, I ignore, say "talk to you tonight". Then she hits my shoulder really hard (doesn't hurt, but the sound of it is really loud in the bar), and she storms out.. I turn to HBgeek and say "as I said, she really likes me, even still". Now I am safe, and I say again "so where were we, your turn for a question"..question game resumes. When its my turn, I resume full kino, and go for the KC like I did with the HB orange lay report last week. I get the KC (kiss close). She then remarks that I must be an attractive guy to make a girl react like that other one did, and would I like to start a relationship (HB Geek tells me she wants to start a relationship with me, as her question in the question game). I say "me too", we finish our beers, and go outside and make out. Now I could probably have taken her to the hotel like I did screambabe the previous time, but I was worried that screambabe was hanging out by the hotels ready to cause more trouble, so I decided to just arrange the fuck this coming Monday at my place instead, which HBgeek agreed to (she wants to see my PC's, LAN and learn how to salsa). We tonguedown some more at the train station (its big, so screambabe cannot find us, we go to an obscure place), and I say goodnight to HBgeek. -- Ok, analysis time. First of all, I was lucky because screambabe was afraid to talk to HBgeek, and only talked to me. Also, she did not say anything about being my GF (which I would have told her she isn't, because I have only met her twice in my life (then anti easy girl/slut logic would have started and she wouldnt have contested that). I was also lucky she didn't start throwing or breaking things, but as I said there was alot of staff around, and it was obvious she was aware of that. It was also the reason I decided to NOT leave the bar once I knew she was there, and rather wait it out, making it look like she didn't phase me at all, and also avoiding something on the street, where she could have been much more out of control. As well, to leave would have shown I was afraid/hiding something, and supplicative.. better to stay I figure, and make screambabe leave instead, which is what finally happened.. I realize screambabe approached when she did, because we had just finished (the first) drinks, and she was afraid we would leave. Also, she was with a guy (looked like an AFC coworker actually.. harmless), and he was getting tired of this and wanted to go I think. He was embarrassed about how she was behaving I think too. Re: handling HBgeek, I thought "social proof!" and tilted everything that way. As well, I made sure to not lose my cool, and not make it look at all to HB geek that anything had happened of any importance (ie. that that other girl was not important to me, even though I was obviously important to her!). In some way, I think this massively increased her respect of me, which led to the "lets start a relationship" question only 5 minutes after screambabe walked out the door. Another thing helped alot too, which was that I was following a script "ManiacPlan". I totally lost all my concentration each time screambabe invaded us, but because I could remember where I was in ManiacPlan, and had the framework memorized, I was able to go right back to where I left off, and continue. I think this made a real positive impression on HBgeek, that I just blew off that other chick, and it look liked it didn't bother me AT ALL, that I could just continue unphased in spite of what just happened (though of course inside I was shitting that screambabe would try something violent, but I didn't show that). Finally, there was the issue of what screambabe was doing there to start with. My hunch is that since she was with another guy, that she was not really stalking me, but just liked the place I showed her, and decided to take a friend there. To fix this, I will rotate a few more bars in the selection between chicks, to reduce the chances of this happening (though I suspect that one part of the reason she went, WAS to see if I would go back with a chick). After saying goodnight to HBGeek and making the monday appt. at my place, I now had to finish containing screambabe so that she wouldn't cause anymore trouble. As with anything in nuclear reactions, the solution is extreme amounts of power and force. So I wrote her an email calling her for the bullshit she tried to pull on me, stalking me, and make her feel that this was ALL her fault (which it really was), make her feel guilty for it..etc (I was going to include the message sent in this post, but seemed I didnt save it).. The goal of the message was to prevent her from showing up at my place or something like that and disturbing me yet again.. The note was written alot in the theme of the Ms. Kinky email I sent when she tried to give me bullshit about meeting other chicks. Then, I got a reply back from screambabe today saying that she misses me now and she would like to meet me (fat chance..). This actually is the second time this happens to me (first time was when HBass came knocking on my window at 1am while I was with energizer babe once night (report in the archives), and I handled it much the same way. I was able to keep both chicks after for several months, and still have HB ass even today. Look forward to HBgeek.. she is a 9. ;-) The end, Constructive comments/opinions appreciated as usual, Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/what-to-do-when-your-chick-catches-you-with-another-chick/feed/ 0