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Another good dancefloor pickup style!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Jonnyjewel talks about his dancefloor pickup strategy!




From jonnyjewel@my-deja.com Sun Oct  8 02:37:20 2000
From: jonnyjewel@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Club PU tips Anyone?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 02:51:01 GMT

toecutter has a lot of good advice I would just like to add a few tips.  The
dance floor is my saving grace for sex.  With out it I might still be a
virgin. Well maybe not.  It sounds like you are doing well at clubs and you
are close to turning the corner and learning how to get the dance floor PU. 
First off, toecutter is right it is a numbers game 100%. I will tell you how
I work a floor.  First off you are there to dance a have a good time, so look
like it.  Smile like you just won a million dollars and let yourself go.  Ok
your relaxed, now it's time to hunt.  What you are looking for a group of
girls together or one by herself. The one by her self is easy just dance up
to her with a open gesture and motion that you would like to dance if she
doesn't she in most cases will look away.  Ok, these groups of women 4 or
more usually have have a certain make up.  There is the hot one, the ugly
one, the not as fashionable one, and the not as hot as the hot one.  The "not
as hot as the hot one" is your target.	This girl is competing with the hot
girl and most of the time will love you for your advance.  Just step up
behind her and smile and rub your peck on her shoulder once gently.  DO NOT
TOUCH ANY PART OF HER BODY WITH YOURS.	Girls love a guys with balls, I mean
it.  She will look behind at you then look back at her friends for approval. 
Stay clam.  She will now do one of three things, back into you, step forward,
or nothing.  If she steps forward, turn right around its over, look some
where else.  If she does nothing try again, be careful she might be a bitch. 
If she gets mad it is her fault, you just wanted to see if she'd like to
dance she could have been courtious and moved away or said no.	But this one
backed into you.  Your chances of a but grind from just about any girl are
about 50%  Just ease into her and have a good time. After about three songs
of hard griding it is time to get go for broke.  Spin her around and grind
away, but she might not want to do a front grind.  If she doesn't, at the end
of the song thank her get, her name, and move on.  This can come in handy
later like a street or parking lot PU.	But you got the fount grind.  VERY
IMPORTANT!!!  If you are grinding with a girl it is your main goal to protect
her, try as hard as you can to keep other people from bumping into her.  Put
out an arm or move both of you so you are the one getting bumped.  I love the
look on girls faces when you do this, they eat it up.  After another two
songs it is time for the kiss.	Start by getting lots of eye contact, if she
not looking at you sorry no kiss for you.  But she is, start touching her
face with yours, forhead to forehead nose to nose.  Go in a couple of times
for a kiss but turn away at the last second.  And then go for it!  But DON'T
shove your tonge down her througt.  Take it easy big boy.  Do this a few
times and then stop, unless she keeps it going.  When I get this far I
usually stick with the chick untill one of us has to go.  At that point thank
her for the night and say something like, "I would like see you again."  Even
if you didn't get the kiss still # close.  If she gives you a number one
thing girls love is if you memorize it, untill she is out of sight and then
right it down, it makes you look smart. I don't ever try to pull a girls off
the dance floor, Why!  Why do you need to? Your grinding, maybe kissing what
more do you want!  She is attracted to you why mess it up by talking.  You
can run all that SS stuff if you get a date.  This brings up another point.
Unless she want to don't talk.	I ususally ask her name and where she's from.
 I leave it at that.  Yes, lost of times these girls have asshole boy friends
so they give you a fake numbers, or just they get scared. The only time you
will get a girl back to your place for the one nighter is if she wants to,
follow her lead. Other points to know for the dance floor PU is that that it
looks good for you to be seen dancing with a lots of women you might start by
dancing with a friend to get you started.  Yes, it is very competitive. So
wear your best club clothes, you might want to invest a little bit of money
in clothes just for clubing. Never ask for a dance, they always say no for
some reason.  Just so you know the girls that come up to you and dance lots
of times are the girls with asshole boy friends but still # close just in
case.  I usually make one to two passes on the dance floor per hour.  One
thing to look for is girls that you have seen dancing with different guys. 
If I don't get a dance I get off the dance floor. You look like a looser if
you are dancing around trying to get girls to dance with you. One mistake I
have made is even if she is liking the fact that your hands are all over her
body, don't move her hand to your dick.  Most importantly, you have never
wasted you time grinding with a good looking girl.

Using effemenate voice in PU

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Greg's experience in using effemenate voices in PU.


From: whoisthis19@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: The effeminant voice
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 20:27:02 GMT


I'll tell ya,  I've been noticing something and putting it into much
practice these days.  It has taken me to some differant realms.  About 6
months ago I read an article in playboy by a guy who spent alot of his
time acting gay and nailing some of the most elite models and actresses
in NYC.  He went pretty much through his life story and how he fit in
with the gays and lived in the gay community and banged chicks left and
right.  Woman who hung with this crowd (Gay fashion designers,
hairstylists... ect..) never suspected he wasn't gay and would hang
around him because they felt he was safe.  Also he was into hairstyling,
art, fashion, make up... ect... ect...  He could talk for hours with
woman about clothes, make up... ect...  I thought; ok this is cool
stuff.  He did over 2,000 lays living this lifestyle.

Anyway....

I get to run around with who I consider the most successful player in my
area.  He's fucking outragiously successful at getting about any kind of
sexual deal going at any time.  The thing is, his voice is so effemate I
can't believe it.  He talks like a girl.  He dont look like one.  In
fact he's very macho looking but still... He's like talking to a chick
and he sounds like a girl.  Even when talks to me he sounds like a girl.
I almost thought he was gay.  He'd talk about his relationships,
girlfriends, clothes... ect...  just like a chick.  It made me sick
because on the outside he looks manly enough but his tonality is so
differant from his looks.

Next I get Rick H's Masters and methods CDs.  His voice is very feminine
as well and he just talks, talks, talks... like a girl on and on...
This guy has banged over a 1,000 chicks and is famous for landing a
5-some.  Still you listen to him talk and he gets excited about his
sarges like a school girl!  Rosses voice too would go into the girl talk
mode at times.

Also on the BHSC brother orion who is outragiously successful uses very
effemate tonality.  Sometimes he almost sounds like a girl talking girl
talk to his girlfriend but the differance is he uses seductive
patterning and it's obvious he is being seductive.  What is seductive
about his tonality is it has the gentleness of a woman.  He uses very
feminine and very gentle soft tonality.  It's amasing and hard to
describe but woman eat it up!!  I will admit though major Mark and for
the most part Ross use pretty deep male tonality though I often hear
Ross laspe into almost girlish tonality at times.  but I'll bet they all
can hold thier own being just one of the girls.

Here's another point.  Most woman's attitude about picking up chicks is
this:  If you ask a girl how to pick up a chick most of them will tell
you it's the easiest thing to do.  For example:  My girlfriend picks up
chicks and has NO problem doing so.  It's so easy it fucking kills me!
She sits with the chick, does light kino, has a girl talk, gets sexual,
off they go to bed with me tagging along.  IT's so damn easy for her.
She asks me why do I have to work at it so hard.  She seriously can't
understand why I read ASF or am learning SS.  If you watch her - it
really is so easy.  That's her perspective.  I've watched other woman.
It's the same thing.  She can talk to girls freely and naturally.  She
knows all the nuances, all the phrases and has talked about sex with
woman since she was a teenager.  She knows how to talk about clothes,
hair, relationshps all in the correct manner and timing.  She even knows
the right small talk.  The thing is when she wants to bed a woman she
usually is into the stage of setting up the lay within 15 minutes.  IT's
damn fast and damn easy for her.

Also woman on this newsgroup often give advice.  They think their advise
is solid gold.  In fact the mind set is they KNOW it is solid gold.  Oh
yes it would be solid gold for a woman trying to pick up another woman.
Piss poor advice for guys who don't know all the nuances of female to
female interaction.  You woman on here who advise don't realise the
enormous gendervantage you hold.  Yes if an AFC could step inside your
skin he would indeed have EASY success but most of us big dumb guys we
have a learning curve to over come being so WAY differant from woman in
not only apperance but also in, tonality, values, cultural programming
ect...  Often the advise would be better understood if you woman would
just tell us guys to:  Be a woman!

so....

Here's the practical application and what I think.

All this stuff has added up and I must say the last three months my
sarge stradegy is changing drastically.  I frequently - ACT GAY, ACT
EFFEMATE,  talk about clothes, make up, boys and be one of the girls.  I
practice these skills and woman keep coming back for more.  I have not
experianced this much popularity with woman before.  I have in the past
always been like a shark swimming around and devouring some unsupecting
duck.  Now I am trying to relate to woman on a whole differant level.

I'm making this type of behavior around woman more natural.  It is
powerful, it works and I what I love most is I'm not doing the old games
that I used to use on woman that left them feeling dirty, degraded and
used.  It works!  I can get with girls and just talk and relate about
female interests.  Sometimes they make me a trusted male confident.  I
mean they don't ignore I'm a male but they over look it because I'm
cool.

I'm curious to what mysteries mode of talking is,  I know NYC gets in on
"chick talk" and I love how he has shared about it.  Any you guys out
there in on the chick talk?

Honestly myself I would say I've always been able to talk to chicks and
do the chick talk thing.  I do have a fairly effenate voice at times and
often am like a camelian with woman or with ethinic groups mirroring
inflection and posture.  Still I have never went as far as I have the
last couple months.  I am purposely going out and being either GAY or
FEMINIE.  I've said too any times lately to chicks;  "Do you think my
boobies are going flat?" "Oh honey what do you use on your skin?  You
look so lovely.".... ect...."

GREG just ONE of the girls
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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
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         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
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     you. As you read these words and remember those
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     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
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     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
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         I do not know if you are the kind of person
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              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
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     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
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     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
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     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
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     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
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                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
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     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
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     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
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         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
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     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
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     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
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     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
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     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
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                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
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     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
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                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
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     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
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     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
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     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
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     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
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     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
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            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

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>As we walk around, I start my repetroire of questions, to start to get>her talking about passion and guy stuff. It is very hard, when I ask>her her favorite actor, she say no one particular. I ask her her>favorite clubs, she says everywhere I like. It was like this, buy Tramadol in canada, for most>things I asked, so I couldn?t get an anchor in, or get anything>started. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, If she is not a talker, she is a listener. As soon as she didn't want to tellyou shit, you should have told her thta you have a friend that... and told herthe story about the chick you tied up. If you can't elicit feelings, usequotes or any other style to MAKE HER think about fucking and sucking.
>She did respond okay to me touching her now and then though with noresistance.

Not good enough, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. Touching her now and then. You have her ISOLATED. You arein SEX MODE from the second you pick her up or the two of you meet. Touchingher now and then at this stage is way to opassive. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, The only point of askingher out is getting physical with her. Otherwise, Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, stay on the phone. It's likeGreg said. He sets it all up on AOL from the privacy of his home, then meetsthem after it is all set up. It's too late at this point for all that highschool, can I touch your breast shit.
>Before the film starts, she asks me what I am doing this evening, and I>say I haven?t made particular plans yet.

VERY VERY VERY bad sign, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. What does she mean what are you doing this evening.
To me that says "I have no intention of spending any more time with you than wediscussed". That's ridiculous. If she had really been into YOU, she wouldhave been hoping and praying that you didn't have anything else to do tonight,so she could be with YOU for as much time as you would give her.
>She tells me she has an Buy Tramadol No Prescription, >appointment with her chick friend, and would I like to join then (this>was strange, I posted a thread a while ago, about what to do when>chicks brings their friends uninvited, but there was no real>conclusion, except not to supplicate and be the nice guy who pays for>everything for her and her friends, as in such a situation there is>zero chance to lay the chick, chicks dont lay guys who supplicate).>>But this was different (it seemed), she said she already had the>appointment, (why she booked an appointment the same day as a date I>dunno, though I guess now I do ;-) ), and was asking me to join them.>So I said fine, I will join the both of them.

TOTALLY FUCKED UP. You HAD her isolated. Now you are going back into thesituation where the chicks don't want to look like sluts in front of theirfriends. I would never have gone for this. First she asks what you aredoing.., purchase Tramadol online no prescription. implying that she is going to do something without you, then she tellsyou what she is going to do without you, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. Again, this would never happen to mebecause by this point in the date, I would have been all over her to the pointwhere she would not have been interested in meeting her girlfriend, or shewould have left me alone. A date is for physical contact. If you had beenmore aggressive, you would have either scared her off or made her get with it.
I also don't feel from your posts (though I could be wrong since I don't knowyou) that you are aggressive enough to pull TWO of these chicks at the sametime. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, Not attacking your skills, but you were having a hard enough time withthis one, and you were now ADDING another one in that you enver even met. Youare ADDING AN OBSTACLE. You may as well have conceded not fucking her rightthere IMO.
>We watch the movie, it was okay. The film ends, and she goes to the>bathroom (without asking, Online buy Tramadol without a prescription, just she goes?I notice this is strange).

It is not strange, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. WHO ARE YOU. See what you get for not demonstratingpersonality. You are the money-source. There is no reason to tell yourpocketbook or wallet when you are going to the bathroom... Buy Tramadol No Prescription, you just go.
>Then we head out, and she fails my arm holding a-la french promenade test>(she lightly rejects it). My experience here is that this is a very>tiny intrusion, and chicks who reject this, I never get to lay. This is>very bad, and I get concerned.

Now you're getting it :)>We get to the bus to go from Shibuya (where the film was), to Roppongi,>where she said she was meeting her friend. She gets on the bus, and>here is my first fuckup which I notice (maybe?), order Tramadol from mexican pharmacy. She gets on the bus>and waits for me to pay the busfare, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. So I did (bad..ouch?though at>first glance I figure I shouldn?t. think about paying bus fare, it is>only .50 anyways, but the gesture (and that it was too cheap for her,>should have clued me in).

I said earlier... don't pay for ANYTHING. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, That bitch has a job. She hasenough money to buy miniskirts and go shopping earlier, but she doesn't havemoney for the bus. She is treating you like a suitor, but you're not gettingany of the benefits of being a suitor. She has constantly been playing you fora sucker.
>OKAY; MOMENT OF TRUTH #1?how would you guys>have handled this (remember, you are on a bus, Buy Tramadol from mexico, in front of the driver,>and folks behind you in line, so scene making here is not really>possible. Only thing I could think of is tell her, she has to pay to>ride the bus (at which point, it probably is best I just get off the>bus, since the date is dead anyways?).

Pay for your fare and walk to the back and SIT THE FUCK DOWN, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. She has toeither come up with the cash or get off the bus. If she asks you to pay forit... refer to the rules I mentioned about paying for the movie.. she's trappedagain. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, PAY OR PLAY.
>Now, before, you jump on me for supplicating, the reason I did this, is>cuz a couple months ago, another chick did the exact same thing, and I>did lay her that night anyways?so I figured that maybe it was okay>since its only .50, and it got me laid once anyways.. So this is no>so clear cut, Tramadol pharmacy, like the arm-ala french promenade test.

Yeah it is. Treated like a suitor, but you don't get any kissing, sucking orfucking. It is definitely a test. You pay if she plays, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. PERIOD.
>Okay, so we ride the bus. Now an amusing thing happens. A guy calls her>on her phone, who I guess tried to get into her panties a few weeks>ago, but failed. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, AHA. Why is her phone on if she is so interested in being with you. I alwayshave my cel on. Buy Tramadol online no prescription, People call me for stuff and I change plans mid-stream. Whena chick is annoyed enough to ask me who called or if anything came up, I cantell that she wants my time for herself. If I feel the same way, then I turnit off to show her that I am committed to her.., Buy Tramadol No Prescription. for the time being :)>She tells him he was rude (guess, he walked her home,>andthen didn?t want to leave after she insisted), and wont give up. I>gesture to her to give me the phone, so I take it, and say "Hello; and>the guy says hello; and I say, sorry; she?s taken!";; that was funny.

Yeah, pretty funny.

Now, when this SAMURAI hacks you to fucking pieces for mouthing off to him,we'll see how funny it was :(You don't know who was on the other line. That could have been some mob boss, rx free Tramadol. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, He might have known where she was eating dinner that night. She may have hadplans to fuck him after you paid for her night on the town. You also usedyourself as a neg-hit on the other guy, so now he will do more work to get thechick than before. I will say again, you put yourself in the place of thesuitor, and you got NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER. You even said "she's taken". Youhad no claim on her at all at that point because you were not physical enoughto tell what you were going to get from her, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.
>Otherwise, conversation is good, she says that she was out everynight>this week, and it was fun (she was wearing a super micro mini BTW,>today, and I have to say it was very nice), and drank a lot.. Buy Tramadol no prescription, She did>hand shaking, and stuff; it was good.

Get a clue. The chick is out every night. This is no home-body. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, She is notgoing to be impressed by anything that you are doing for her tonight, becauseanother guy did the same routine last night and another the night before. It'slike when guys get to fuck drunk chicks. She fucked you because she was hornyand you were there. It was nothing that you did yourself. All this paradingaround and movies and buses and dinners are throwaways. All you needed to dois sit her down for coffee and captura and lead her imagination, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.
>We get to Roppongi, where we meet her friend, and Hotpants HB asks me>where I would like to go eat (this was odd I thought), so I pick an>italian place I like nearby. We go there, she picks up her friend on>the way. Her friend is cute, nice, where can i buy cheapest Tramadol online, but more shy. Seems like a nice>girl.>>We have a nice supper and talk, I do my palm reading pattern, and that>works well, get some hand holding and all that. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, Then, something>happens, which tells me what?s going to come next (that this date is>done, and they are about to be blown out?and I was write).

Again, it is too late in the game for gimmicks and patterns. You saw episode 1by now. Anakin got to the enemy cruiser on autopilot, then R2 cut him looseand he blew up the ship on his own. Eventually, you have to work off ofnatural skill and instinct. Now that you have added this other chick, youREALLY should have been concentrating on disarming obstacles.
>We were joking about her drinking nights, and I joked lightly, that she>goes meeting guys, and has them buy her drinks, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. She said yes, in a>smirky kind of way. Tramadol from canadian pharmacy, Now I was expecting trouble, because, this means>that she probably was expecting me to buy her and her friend (who I>didn?t invite) supper. I get ready for the blowup and how to handle it.>She notices my face change, and asks me is something wrong. I snap out>of it after a moment, and get normal, and running the patterns, and>stuff again, and things are normal (hey, I might just be wrong, and>everything will be okay..so I stay positive, but prepare for the>worst).

Back on autopilot huh.
Buy Tramadol No Prescription, >Supper finishes, and now the blowup happens. The bill comes, and I tell>everyone how much they owe (actually, my intention was to tell everyone>how much they owe, Tramadol for sale, and then when my chick HB Hotpants took her money>out, I would quietly gesture that she (but not her friend) didn?t have>to pay (why should I pay for her friend. I didn?t invite her!).

weak weak weak. Didn't you see where this ceased to be a date. I mean itnever was a date, REALLY. She was hanging out with you and milking you, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. Assoon as she added her friend in it was really over. Everyone needed to pay forher own shit. PERIOD.
>But, then they tried to tell me they had no money (I figure that HB>hotpants, told her friend that I would be paying for everything). At Buy Tramadol No Prescription, >this point, I knew it was blown and didn?t care anymore; I asked them>again that they have to pay their share; and the guy was waiting. They>said they didn?t have any money.

Look how you got played. hahaha didn't you say that just earlier you WENTSHOPPING WITH HER. Online buying Tramadol, Did she mention to you when you were shopping that shespent her last dollar on what she bought. If not, she was lying. What kind ofbitches are these anyway that come outside without any money, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.

You SHOULD have told the waiter to go back where he came from and come backwith seperate checks. You should have itemized your portion and paid your owncheck and walked out, leaving those bitches there to rot. They either wouldhave washed the fucking chopsticks all night or paid for their shit.
>Now I paid the bill (not to supplicate to the chicks; as I blew them>out instantly and in their faces once we got outside, boy were they>embarrassed?, but it is a restaurant I frequent often, my reputation is>important there and I didn?t want to make such a scene in front of the>staff and patrons, as I do wish to return again, and be treated well as>I always am, when I go there with someone else.).

Your rep ios fine as long as you pay for what YOU bought... Buy Tramadol No Prescription, no more.
>We got out the door, and I let her have it totally, order Tramadol no prescription. Her friend was at>first confused, and then horrified as I explained what her friend at>just done. I told her that I wasn?t an easy guy, and wasn?t going to>supplicate to her like this, just because she tramps around in a mini,>and although the friend seemed like a nice person, I wasn?t going to be>expected to be the bank, and pay for her and all of her friends>adventures.

but that's EXACTLY what happened isn't it.
>I went on to tell her, that I paid the bill only for respect of the>restaurant as I go often, and that she did an bad, selfish thing, and>that I was going home, and they can go do whatever they want without>me; that I wouldn?t stand for this sort of thing, Purchase Tramadol online, and I have enough>esteem to just say no. I told her, I have no problem to pay for a date>when I take a girl out, but I have a big problem if she expects to>bring all her uninvited friends and have me pay for them too

If it had been a DATE you would have had a good point there, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.
>HB hotpants (who probably is used to supplication, and never had this>happen before), was shocked, and her friend was horrified at what she>saw happened, and my massive mood change from inside.

Let's see:

YOUR VERBAL ATTACK < YOUR MONEY SPENT.
YOUR VERBAL ATTACK = YOUR MONEY SPENT.
YOUR VERBAL ATTACK > YOUR MONEY SPENT.

you see how your money was already spent by the time you "caught" these chicks. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, You could have cut her off at the movies, or even better, never promised hermovies and shit in order to LURE HER into hanging out with you. If yourcompany is good enough, you can go somewhere free and quiet where you can getrefreshments and have a good time together. It's that simple. Does that makesense.
>I told her (and her friend heard); that I was a good, guy, and always>treated a woman well when I was with them, buy generic Tramadol, but I would not let myself>be taken advatange of, and if she thought so, then she was too cheap a>girl for me, and she could go find someone else to be her bank account>cuz it sure wasn?t going to be me. I also said that she might think she>is so cute that she thinks she can make a guy supplicate to her all>night and pay for everything for her and her friends, but with me it>wasn?t so, and she wasn?t that cute that she could pull that with me,>and even if she was, I was a not an easy guy, I don?t supplicate like>the other guys she meets, and it wouldn?t work with me.

did she ITEMIZE the amount of money you spent on her (and on yourself becauseyou were out with her) as a counter point, Buy Tramadol No Prescription.
>Her friend just stood there in shock as I chewed out HB hotpants on the>street in front of the restaurant; probably never having seen such a>demonstration of anti supplication in her life (and the respect I>showed for the restaurant, but not to HB hotpants after her deed). Her>friend probably never saw a guy tell HB Hotpants off like this,>thinking she was so cute no guy would ever dare. Well I had no problem>doing so.>Then I said bye; turned around; and left..

Should have happened at the movie. I guarantee you she would NEVER have paidto get in. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, She also would not have fucked you that night, because she hadplans to go clubbing with her girlfriend that night like every other night.
Now you kow how it works. No dates before FUCKING.
>Okay, a couple things?first;; guys?look, Buy Tramadol online cod, the reason she was expecting>this, is because probably every other guy she ever went out with, when>faced with this situation; supplicated to HB Hotpants because she is>cute. But look!; once you supplicate..you lose?she will never fuck>you?.ever..

You have demonstrated this.., Buy Tramadol No Prescription. but all is not lost. If she calls you after yourtantrum, she is crawling back to you in a very bad position. You can thenchoose not to speak to her again as punishment, or make her your fucky-suckyslave so she can make amends. Ever is a long time.
>And when you do this (let a chick try and steamroll you Buy Tramadol No Prescription, >this way..even if she is a 10), you will lose all your money, your>time, AND SHE WILL NEVER FUCK YOU. I know this, and that is why I>instantly cut her out, and cut her down, once she tried this.

Not exactly. You instantly cut her out as soon as you FIGURED OUT she wastrying this, buy no prescription Tramadol online. She was getting over all night. You should have remained calmand told them to walk with you and taken them directly ro a fucking ATM anddemanded your money back, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. If they didn't produce it, THEN you should havethrown the tantrum. The only things you escaped paying for that night = allthree bus fare to the club, all three club entry cover charge, all three drinksall night, cab to the friend's house where the HB would have gotten out too andyou would have gotten a kiss on the cheek goodnight, and your lonely cab ridehome alone.
>We never>went to the second bar, (which she probably expected me to pay for too,>for her and her friend(s?) ), so just I got straight out of there after>I finished chewing her out, and embarassing her in front of everyone>and her friend in the street in front of the restaurant.

Good.
>The lessons here..>>HB hotpants was (genuinely I think), Tramadol price, expecting that I would let myself>get taken advanatage of, like every other guy, and she was going to>show how great a guy I was to all her friends, and how she could get me>to supplicate for her and do her beck and call because she is so cute?>Heck, maybe she even thinks this is (egads!) acceptable behavior, just>because so many guys supplicate to her that she got used to it. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, So,>lesson..supplication is bad..BAD, don?t do this. You ruin it for>yourself, and the next guys after that, cuz she gets used to all the>supplication, and not having to fuck for it..

Now you're learning :) By the way, her behavior is completely acceptable.
Anyone that falls for her shit has himself to blame. She is using what she'sgot to get what she wants. Nothing wrong with that. Just make sure you kowwhat you're doing when you play in the big leagues.., Buy Tramadol No Prescription. or at least learn thesigns to recognize the big-time female players.
>Anyways, buy cheap Tramadol no rx, back to the story?(well, I tell you, now her friends KNOW>how great a guy I am, cuz I stood up to her, right in her face, in>front of her friends..and told her off, and why, and that she was too>cheap for me, and I had no respect for her at all; anymore?I am miles>above her in rank now, and if her friend ever sees me again, boy will>she respect me (I am pretty sure HB?s friend was not in on this game,>just the unknowning victim HB Hotpants. misguided showoff attempt;>judging from her confusion, and reaction once I explained it)..just she>wanted to show me off. Order Tramadol online c.o.d, .so now anyways, her friend knows that I AM a>great guy, respect a girl, but I dont take shit and I don?t supplicate,>and I will respect the restaurant, if not them. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, So in the end, I won?

won what. I am serious. Please elaborate how you spent your money and yelledat a Japanese chick at the end of the night and that is a win. I agree thatyou won from the time you stopped losing money to this female player, but Ican't see how you WON this situation, except for the fact that you have areally good set of things to look for to see where a chick is playing you formoney, and we all get to learn from your situation.
>Okay, now, time to learn from this..your opinions guys..realitically,>what are some tests, I can put on a chick to find this out very early>on; with a very high accuracy, before I waste an afternoon, and do the>movie thing/supper. (I know there were some signs, above; but as I>said, they were not clear cut, and I did shag chicks in similar>situations (except for the supper thing?I never ever shagged a chick>who by surprise decided she wanted to bring a friend to supper).

you don't need TESTS, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. Just watch what's going on around you. When she goes toa cookie store, does she get out her puse and pay 35 cents for a cookie. Ordoes she cuddle on your arm and say "buy me a cookie?" smiling at you and allcute, then forgetting about you after you buy it. The most I will buy a chickis a coffee at the shop I tell her to meet me at. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, If she doesn't offer to buythe next round, or pay me for hers, she'd fucking MARKED.
>Ideas?opinions. Constructive comments on how I can do this better the>next time (no flames please), and other ways of detection/detterance?>>Finally, my major fuckup, is that somehow, I should have let her known>early on, and subtlly, that I don?t supplicate, and not to even try>such a stunt with me. I want her to know very early on, that she is>meeting me because she potentially wants to fuck me (or is willing to),>and that there is no possibility whatsoever that I will supplicate to>her like all the other guys do..>>How do I do this guys?

No dating before fucking. More phone conversation. More personalitydemonstration, Buy Tramadol No Prescription. More connection creation. You have a good grasp of the basicrules. Use them :)>What could I have done (early on), to have her respect me (before the>dinner blow up), and not think about even trying a stunt like she>tried?so that I could have shagged her after all (I mean hey, she>does shag guys sometimes).>>(so weekend tally. 1 fuck; 1 blowup?.okay I guess?.)>>Opinions guys. Buy Tramadol No Prescription, (oh. Remember, .this is a learning experience, and>since there was not a lay at the end, I already know there were>fuckups?so lets be constructive on the comments/criticisms?)..>okay?let?er rip!>>Maniac High

Great post maniac :)

I got a lot of practice cutting this bitch up while replying. The stuff youput here set off BLARING alarms for me. I have seen all that shit... including"buy me a cookie". You'd better believe I told that bitch BUY YOURSELF ACOOKIE. and the "date" continued as if it was never mentioned :)

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After that I thought what I could do better in such asituation., where can i buy Ultram online. Ultram pharmacy, Then I came up with the '3 no's rule'. Buy Ultram No Prescription, When a chick is freezing up (and is looking like freak-outmaterial), one thing I found can work is to stop allphysical contact, and start story telling, and qualifyingher feelings. Stories about romance, order Ultram, Where can i buy cheapest Ultram online, security, and allthat, online buy Ultram without a prescription, Buy Ultram in canada, with normal '1st date' start level kino.
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On the other hand, a worse thing would have been to endurethe whole video and her frigidness. Doing that would have gottenme an 'F' score. Buy Ultram No Prescription, Better was immediate ejection, which is OKbut not the whole effort above, so that rates a 'C'. I feel Icould have gotten an 'A' (lay) or 'B' (good try though no lay)score, if I had done the above with her. The j-nanpa videos alsodo it this way if the chicks freeze up when arriving atthe guys place they wear her down by talking and stories ofgood feelings and all that shit, and then go for it. That seemsto work some of the time, though admittedly, this is damagecontrol territory.

So now I learned a new way to deal with this situationeven if I didn't lay HB geek, so at least it was an educationalexperience.

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Dress

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when you see her, show her a smile, confidence, coyness, charm, be welldressed, look just a little shy, where can i buy cheapest Diazepam online, and be friendly. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, dont PICK HER UP. dont HIT onher. dont compliment her. Just BE. Like when you are with a good friend.Then tell her you intend on bringing her with you to a get together

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have you told any stories to a buddy on the phone. Online buy Diazepam without a prescription, well give the story a title and write that on a list to put in your pocket or wallet. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, This TOPICS OUTLINE can be referred to while she is right there. You go into your wallet and check something then continue talking. She wont know you have a cheat sheet.

ALWAYS carry a pad and pen with you. consider learning sleight of hand with a pen. This will come in handy OFTEN, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Take the pen and before you give it you say, "check this out" and make it vanish. That's a coy and playful surprise. You need to be better at disarming them with humor. You CANNOT enter with SEX on the BRAIN. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, NO HITTING. NO PICKING UP. Have fun, make them laugh and convey confidence, connection, smile and humor. Then they will want you because every other guys doesn't do this. They do shit like give beers and other stereotypical mating ritual things. You don't do that and you are IN baby IN, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Honest, buy generic Diazepam. You haven't had a chance to work the club PROPERLY. You do NOT have to be a 'mack'. Swear.

Buy Diazepam No Prescription, SOLUTION: smile. When she looks fo rhte very FIRST time, smile BIG and say "Hi." THAT's the 3 second rule. You will get used to saying hi and smiling to EVERY beautiful girl everywhere you go. No you already have come off as playful and pleasant. If you miss this first opportunity to do this, you risk STALING out the girl. That is what you keep getting yourself into, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. You STALE the entry so you feel awkward to approach. Why. Because you know she knows you have sex on your brain. You have no other reason to approach her. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, That's STALE. Now if you smiled and said hello in the first 3 seconds of seeing her, then you can immediately start chatting. Its natural this way. Online buying Diazepam,

"My spoon is dirty. (Pause for impact then show a dirty spoon andlook at it like its really scary.) My kingdom for a clean spoon. What am I talking about, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. My kingdom 'is' a spoon. A dirty spoon at that. What should I do now. Im at a loss. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Quickly, lets team up and solve this issue together. I'll do the delegating. You do the field work. No, I'll be Molder, you be Scully.

use the elvis bit on the potential boyfriend. Everyone with the girl must be disarmed FIRST, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. They are to like you first. When they are laughing or you feel they are not a problem, then its all good. You can address the entire group, but remember to pay LITTLE attention to the target.

Sure, purchase Diazepam online no prescription. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Just dont pay particular attention to any ONE girl. In fact, pay more attention to the ugliest and work your way up. This is to disarm the obstacles to the one you prefer. If a woman is with a guy, you must approach HIM first. To direct your attention first to HIM. If a woman is engaged in a conversation .., Buy Diazepam No Prescription. hmmm, thing is, sometimes they are talking about serious stuff. Dont intrude if they are passionately conversing. But if there are pauses and such, by all means ... enter

editorial on lifestle:as disease is a health issue to be dealt with in ANY sexual lifestyle hetero or whatever, we will not discuss this again. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Its something you must be responsible for no matter WHO or WHAT you have sex with.

What you say is that you are attracted to bisexual women. Thats that.an appeal to polyamory

I dont bother dealing with ethics because the current pop culture thinking is that monogamy is the natural state between man and woman. Buy Diazepam without a prescription, From a realistic scientific point of view however, monogamy is merely a religious restraint leftover from church controlled government.

Humans are polygamous, contrary to popular believe. (Watch Desmond Morris, The Sexes on The Learning Channel), Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Read The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins. Research humanism on the net. Research evolution on the net as well. Human and other animals. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Men and women are MEANT to have more than one partner in a life. And the pair-bo0nding that occurs for child rearing only lasts 4 years til the kid is old enough to be raised within its peer group or friends and other family memebers (cousins and sisters and such).

Watch Ricki Lake or Springer and you'll start noticing that men cheat. alot. Right now they act as if cheating is a bad thing. Thing is, it’s the natural way, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. whether women believe this or not is a moot point. humans are polygamous. When you realize this (research this to confirm it) you will feel alot better about how life works. You are MEANT to have a sequence of lovers in your life. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Instead of asking, "but why didnt this relationship work", know that all relationships have a beginning AND and ending. Then you move on. Nothing is permanent, where can i find Diazepam online. Granted you may have parents who have stayed together but this was generally because of their indoctrination into a religious organization as children themselves. You can get out of these cults by educating yourself - check out humanism. Check out the skeptics dictionary on the net (www.yahoo.com) will bring you there, Buy Diazepam No Prescription.

thing is, you'd be surprised how accepting girls are when you tell them you are polyamorous. They will ask what that is and you tell them poly (multi) amore (love) and thats just your lifestyle. MANY women have never considered it but are INTRIGUED. You, having the guts to tell them honestly, you will appear very confident. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Youll be surprised how much of an ACCEPTING thing this is to girls.

I know it sounds weird but thats not the case. I mean, dont them you are dating other women - tell them you are polyamorous. Dating other women is to not care. Being polyamorous is to care for women even more than a normal man.

an appeal to cheating and lying2 men want to be polyamorous (not with eachother), Buy Diazepam No Prescription. There is one girl who wants to be monogamous (only cause she is christian and doesnt know better). One of the guys tells he he's fucked tonnes of girls. Rx free Diazepam, The other lies and says he's only fucked 3. Who does she like more. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, See, deception is ok. So long as you arent hurting them. Like if you were a fag or something and were a high risk no condom wearing guy or something and you dont wear a condom with her and shit like that. Be responsible, but cheating includes white lies. Clinton style.

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Go out 4 or 5 days a week, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Dont carry a beer bottle in your hand like others.

Oh, remember the first time you drove. How scary it was. I remember how scared I was and I took a course and I actually hated having to do it because I had the responsibility of driving on me. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, It was such a horrid feeling. Even when I got my license it was a bad feeling. It was this anxiety whenever I knew I HAD togo somewhere. In fact I got that again when I took a course last year on motorcycle driving. (Got my license for bikes 6 months ago). Remember having been through this pain?Did it go away with time, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. yes. Would it have if you only drove once a month, Diazepam pharmacy. hardly.

Well, in order to get comfortable with the meeting girls thing, one must keep going out and trying. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, I am talking 8 to 10 girls a DAY. If you devoted a good portion of your time to this endevour, you would finally solve this problem, nip it in the butt, and be able to attain your desires before they pass you by. Its not a looks thing. Its entirely style. Ever see Gone with the Wind. Rhett Butler - when you watch the movie, notice how in real life that guy is actually sorta ugly, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. But he FOOLS us, he tricks us into believing he is great looking by his sytle. He has the VIBE, the confidence, the demeaner, Purchase Diazepam online, the cockiness of a man who knows what he likes and how to get it. Watch the movie and think about HIM.

Whenever you feel the 'pain' of not wanting to go out and meet girls (even though you want to be in one or more relationship - that just a choice thing) your body is sabotaging you. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, This feeling is not a sign to say, "DONT GO. GIRLS are BAD." It rather is a very strong indicator that says, "Be careful, get good sleep the night before, eat well, be awake and lucid for the challenge". Just like driving.

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get a microcassette player and tape ALL your approaches. Its also good because an approach is very formatted: it has a beginning AND an ending. So does a tape, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. So when you see the girl, you think I want HER. You scan the situation and say,"OK, here goes" and you press record. And in you go. When it is over, order Diazepam from mexican pharmacy, you press stop. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Its so perfect for your brain. you are going in not to get the girl but rather to perfect the pick-up so you can have the PERFECT tape to play to friends. They will listen and say, "FUCK. YOU are GOOD!" Then you show them a picture of this girl that you fucked and she is a 10!. That is what its all about. Getting GOOD at this do you see WHY I said to get her to YOUR place, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. You NEVER have control of the situation at HER place. Phone calls and other unexpected things can excuse her from paying attention to you.

a neg hit is when you are talking to a girl and you do little things that show you arent completely interested. EG: "are those nails real?" when she says no reply, "oh. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, well, they're still nice." You arent being an asshole but the end result was to put her down. She will feel a little bad though she wont think you meant it. You should drop 3 neg hits on a girl in order for her to want try to impress you harder and regain her composure. Another one is this: "Is your hair real. Well its still nice." Remember to say this with a smile as if you are oblivious to this being a neg hit. See, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. You , Buy cheapest Diazepam, are HITting on her, but its NEGativie. There are many others that are great.

OK one more, do the pull my finger joke on her. Do it twice. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Who the hell would do this to a girl who was a 10?!!. Only a man who is used to being around girls and doesnt care about getting this girl or not. And this makes you different from the rest. You are toying with her - and it works.

My patience is usually unending ... EXCEPT, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. If someone doesnt TRY, I tell them to fuck off. I care only about people's learning curves. I know everyone is at a different place on the learning curve but if they aren't at least PLAYING the game, then they are wasting my valuable input and therefore my time. If someone just tells me they arent getting girls because they are too scared, and they dont attempt any way of beating the fear (excitement) and challenging themselves, then they can fuck off out of this NG becausethey arent PLAYING the game, buy Diazepam from mexico. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, All this talk of ours in the NG is about the RULES and TACTICS and STRATEGIES and GAMBITS of the game. But if you only READ the rules and never pPLAY the game then I say, fuck off, right. Hey, one can SUCK at the game but at least they try. We've got teenagers that are getting more pussy than some LAMO adults.

I stand firm on this EXCEPTION. "If someone doesnt have the guts to PLAY the game at all, they can fuck off, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. If they have the guts to TRY, then I have the patience to offer advice on playing the game BETTER." yeah I guess the legal thing is an issue, but so far its just for fun and I dont allow names to there is no PROOF within the audio. I will always remove names and change them to NICKS anyway so Im pretty safe there. You can edit the DETAILS out and edit the audio any way you want to make it shorter and such. its realy fun too. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, to talk in the car about girls gets you PREPARED and to use it in the approach motivates you to really think about what you are saying.

You have this notion that lying is an EVIL thing. You arent HURTING them by lying. You are using deception - so what. Buy Diazepam online cod, All animals use deception at some form or another to increase their chances to survive. Cheating and lying are evolutionarily advantageous, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Read The Selfish Gene.

See my new perspective. Cheating and Lying is OK, so long as you benefit ... and the other doesnt DIE. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, yeah I guess the legal thing is an issue, but so far its just for fun and I dont allow names to there is no PROOF within the audio. I will always remove names and change them to NICKS anyway so Im pretty safe there. You can edit the DETAILS out and edit the audio any way you want to make it shorter and such. its realy fun too. to talk in the car about girls gets you PREPARED and to use it in the approach motivates you to really think about what you are saying.

WOW, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Ok, DONT give your CARD out anymore. EVER!!. What I mean by SELLING is that you are a product. You have to package yourself so you look like the TYPICAL perfect man. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Smiling and funny, confident and connecting. Pleasant and not HITTING on them. Not buying them beers. Being a challenge, order Diazepam. But like a salesman, you have to get ready for the sale. you have to look good, shave and dress well (dont dress LIKE a salesman - never wear a tie but dress well) have shiny shoes (very important) and be confident like a salesman who knows his product and KNOWS that it sells well so the salesman doesnt even have to try, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. he just has to make his presence known. Like a pepsi rep. Look good but dont say, "will you buy some soda from me??. please???"

Pick up a spoon and walk up to the girl and say, "look at this. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, would you use this. look how dirty this is. elvis wouldn't use this spoon." Remember to be more absorbed with your disgust with the spoon than the conversation with her.

FIND is the hardest part of the game I think. They ARE out there. In fact, they are looking for YOU too, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. They have just as tough a time as you. You have to make yourself available to them. I DARE you to go for a walk. Go from store to store on main st. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, and ask the cashiers where they would consider a good place. Buy Diazepam in canada, These people are your resources. They know the area and can guide you. "Can I pick your brain for a couple minutes about this area?" say that and they would most likely love to tell you more.

its unrealistic to attempt to identify SINGLE girls VISUALLY. If you arent sure, go in and approach, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. That is a RULE to the game. Go in and make them think you are a great guy then ask them for details of their life. Plan to go out JUST to pick up a girl. You can go alone. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Its in fact preferred. Bring a microcassette recorder and talk to it (to us). Where are you going. how many girls are you meeting in a day. You should be approaching 12 in a day ( 6 girls in 2 clubs in an evening of 4 hours is very fair). You should tape these conversations so we can best help you, Buy Diazepam No Prescription.

The BF is an obstacle. Obstacles must be disarmed. Do this by befriending HIM. Ignore HER and make him think you are really a cool dude. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, You ingore her (which is good psyche) and you disarm him. You also have the opportunity to find out how WELL he knows her and if he is even a boyfriend and not a brother or friend. This is standard obstacle disarming tactics, buy cheap Diazepam no rx. NEVER neg the obstacles. ONLY NEG the TARGET.

respect the BF ALWAYS, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. I mean, show him all the attention and he will think you are not hitting on her.

SHE: I have a boyfriend.

YOU: If you think your boyfriend would feel THREATENED by your meeting new people maybe we shouldn't bother getting to FREELY know eachother.

If a girl says "I have a boyfriend", I know that I fucked up and made her feel threatened. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, This is a reflex answer from women who are shy scared girls. If they really HAVE a girlfriend, it is likely they feel comfortable with that and so will appreciate attention from others. Afterall, she feels secure with her relationship so she won't just blurt out "I have a boyfriend." If a girl says this, she unlikely HAS a boyfriend but she DOES have a fear of you that must be disarmed. the art of attreaction is to get a girl under 2 hours. if not in 15 minutes. you dont take weeks and weeks, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. this is so COMPLETELY fuck up the entire system. Diazepam for sale, Trying to get a girl by talking iwth her for weeks and not finally CLOSING it NUTS man. meet the girl, be funny. now, either get her # or bring her somewhere or kiss her there. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, those are the 3 options. In class, you get her somewhere for lunch or you invite her to a party or you get her #. thats it. invite her to your place. Once you have chatted for 15 miutes, you will have her attracted to you (that is if you do the SS stuff). thats it, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. now CLOSE the sale. Its a sale man. You dont wait around trying to close a sale for a month. This isnt selling a ,000 copier. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Its a 0 VCR. thats it. its not rocket science, order Diazepam no prescription. we need perspective. while you are every day trying to CHAT with her, she goes home and masterbates. Theyn she meets a guy like me who comes along showing all the traits she would want in a man (a well honed image) and she chases him, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. he plays hard to get for 10 minutes and then gives in and BAM we are fucking while you are at home masterbating thinking about how you will make her MORE attracted to you. Anything over 2 hours and its a NOGO. Remember. after 2 hours, its gone. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, To attract someone is to BE attractive. ATTRACT her. Convey the traits she wants in a man. And how do you both find out what they are and then convey them back to her. Well, I would suggest CONVERSING with her. TALK with her, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. DONT HIT on her. Make her laugh for a good 10 minutes and then try to CONNECT. Then go for the kill. Diazepam over the counter, dont hit on her until she is INTERESTED. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, She wont be until she has already been given the traits she wants. SMILE, HUMOUR, WILLINGNESS to LEAVE, CONFIDENCE, SOCIAL STANDING, NICE EYES (dont wear glasses). Be charming.

IntroEstablish eye contact. Say hi ... make it sound sincere, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Don't make it seem like you are trying to pick them up. "Hi there!" is wrong. They will in fact question in their minds why you are talking to them ... you may later on tell them

Obstacles

If other people are present, you must get them to like you first before you may show your intentions to the one you want. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, If one is her brother, he must like you enough to not become an obstacle. If he thinks you're an asshole, win him over first.

Close - give something personal - a necklace or bracelet, buy Diazepam no prescription.

Don't use pick-up lines.

Don't use anything obvious to your intentions.

Don't buy a girl a beer, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Don't buy a girl a flower. In fact, don't think about picking her up; rather think about attracting her.

What attracts a person to another.

The person is interesting. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, There are 2 types of interesting people: good interesting and bad interesting. If you meet a girl and start giving knock knock jokes, that would seem interesting but in a ... "this guy is fun, but lame" way.

Be entertaining - that is interesting. People want to hang with others because that person feels good around you.

The second day

Most people believe that calling a girl the next day is too needy, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. I don't think so. Never ask them out on a date though. Movies and the like are out. Order Diazepam online c.o.d, Videos are too soon. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, The more pretty the girl, the more she has been hit on. The more likely she is already taken and is only flirting. They can knock you down more quickly because they've had practice. However, the more practice you get at talking to pretty girls, the easier it will be to NEG HIT them. NEG HITS are LOVED by 10s.

In each case of my getting laid, I first intro'd, then entertained with out obviously showing my intentions to seduce, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. I merely talked. You have to go through this too. So perfect the INTRO first. Do it withOUT looking like you are hittin gon them. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, START there.

a woman will assume you want to have sex - you must confuse them into thinking that you actually don't care about that. That is in fact a difficult thing to do.

a woman must be reached at an emotional level first and foremost. Be intellectual but reach her emotionally. You cannot reach her this way until you have only reached her intellectually (showing no emotional attachment to her like horniness) in the first few minutes, Buy Diazepam No Prescription.

I have a boyfriend if you think your boyfriend would feel threatened by your meeting new people maybe we shouldn't bother getting to know eachother.

The close

only close when they are attracted to you. do not close until you have a pretty good certainty that they are (see body language), australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal. once you know they are attracted, you MUST close or lose.

" this was good"

Buy Diazepam No Prescription, "so when are we going to get together again. I'm going to be performing at a club on the weekend, are you free on fri or sat?"

esp joke

give necklace

i want to see you again

you want to see me again

lets get together again

· i like you

what's your #. (Have pencil ready)

i want your #

Scripts:

"may i call you sally (or whatever). you can call me mr. poo-pee pants." - great if the girl is a 10!

"if i follow you home, will you keep me?"

"so how do you like me so far?"

"the voices in my head told me to come talk to you."

"would you like to kiss me or should i apologize?"

"hello suzy, your mommy couldnt make it this afternoon. she asked me to

pick you up and take you home, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. my thats a pretty dress. would you like

some candy?"

"Ive never driven a cadillac ... whats your name?" - too sexual for an

opening

"you have an interesting figure." - good if the babe is a 10!

"shh. people can see us!"

"you drank too much last night didnt you?"

waiting for the subway - "dont fall onto the tracks - youll make me late for

work"

1. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, "your nose wiggles when you speak. its sooo cute. :)"

2. pointing to feet ... Buy Diazepam online no prescription, (saying this like you really dont know), "are those

size 10s?"

3. "I bet you are even prettier without so much make-up on."

4, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. "Your eyes are rather red. You havent been treating your body very well lately have you."

5. "do you know what the C in E=MC2 is. (constant = speed of light = 186,000 miles a second) if she doesn't say, "oh. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, well .... nice meeting you. :)" then turn your back to her.

The 3 SECOND RULE: when you are interested in meeting a girl, don't wait for more than three seconds before smiling and saying hi. You have 3 seconds to do that. ALWAYS do it. Even if that's ALL you do, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Walk around, assessing women (rating them in your mind from one to ten) and if they are 8 and up, smile and say hi. Then you are committed to following through. NO MORE FEAR because you will find yourself doing this to ALL, Diazepam samples. Remember to SMILE and say Hi.

There are 3 TYPES of WOMEN, each must be treated differently. You must accurately assess their rating:

Buy Diazepam No Prescription, TYPE C: girls who are 7.4s and below - what to do. avoid them. They are ugly!

TYPE B: 7.5 and 8 all the way to 8.9: they are pretty but the know they arent MOVIE or TV quality.

TYPE A: 9s to10s: these girls seem to be the hardest. But they arent. They are just DIFFERENT. A dif approach is needed, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. You must give them 3 NEG HITS first. Things like, "Oh those are very nice nails ... are they real?" When she says no, say "oh. well ... Buy Diazepam No Prescription, they're STILL nice :)" Its a put down without putting her down. Read another post of mine about that.

I suggest getting good at internal fear stuff by chasing Cs. WHY. Because you dont have to have sex with them, you can just be friends and use them to learn about women from. Where can i order Diazepam without prescription, Going out and having girls already around you increases your probabilities 10 fold.

Type Bs are fun. They are numberous enough to enjoy greatly, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. They are very attractive but arent the TV model type. thats ok because they are very NICE girls.

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As REAL pro-players know, the other people within the group are considered OBSTACLES. If you can make them like you, then they will give their consent and ALLOW you to have time with the girl you want. The fact that her peer group likes you will cinch her accepting your advances. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Lets say there are 4 girls as an example. You introduce yourself to ALL FOUR. Begin by saying ... "ladies." and smile. You are addressing the entire group this way in a polite manner. Remember to SMILE, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Enter with the Elvis script as an example - though there are TONNES of INTROs. You are playful and fun and confident. Then continue into other scripts or topics of conversation IGNORING the one girl you want. You arent paying particular attention to any ONE girl, just adressing the group and when the vibe is good and you've gotten EVERYONE laughing, THEN you pay attention to the one you want. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, See, if you paid attention to the best looking first, then the ugs would get jealous and dislike you immediately and pull the girl from you. By paying more attention to them first, Diazepam from canadian pharmacy, you make them like you as a person (the TARGETS friends must RESPECT you for you to get ANYWHERE with one of their friends) and at the same time the pretty TARGET feels a bit self-conscious that she isnt getting the attention she usually gets. Only when everyone likes you do you FINALLY give the TARGET the attention she now craves. Since everyone likes you, the obstacles have been thwarted and the peer pressure will be great for the good looking girl to pay attention to you. When you notice you are paying a bit too much attention to her (afterall, you will get along with her GREATLY) that is when you ask for permission from your news friends (the other girls) if its alright that you pay particular attention to her. They will appreciate you for being honest and have enjoyed the romance of the two of you smiling and holding hands .., Buy Diazepam No Prescription. and THEN you wisper to your TARGET, "look at what you made me do. I had to make EVERYONE here like me before I could talk to you. See that. This would have been so much easier if you were alone."

Alright gents, THAT is the way. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Instead of wussing out and slipping her the lame card (fucking goofs do that) instead you take the fucking bull by the horns, go in and mow that sucker down. Its systematic. Make friends with ALL of them. Make them ALL like you. And then PICK what you want.

the question game - Mystery

the hot seat - Mystery

elvis and his hair - Mystery

blow job pattern - Ross

Caous Theory - Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic park

Pull my finger - Mystery

Cosmology - Mystery (discussing the nature of the universe)

Connecting pattern - Ross

My Ant Farm - Mystery (discussing how humans werent meant to live alone in an ant farm)

May I suggest verbalizing what your intentions are first. That way if she says no you can say "wow, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. Buy no prescription Diazepam online, you really wrecked a moment. Your boyfriends musta really hated that about you."

So you can say, "I want to kiss you."

"Kiss me."

"Do you like having your neck bit. why. Because right now all I want to do

is bite your neck."

"stick your tongue out." Then slowly go up to her face and suck on her tongue. This is MY personal favorite kiss close.

Buy Diazepam No Prescription, They are just considerations. I found just going for the kiss without indicating your intentions can sometimes lead to embarrassment - more than her saying NO. at least you can save face from the chat than from the situation where she moves AWAY from the kiss.

"Would you like to kiss me?"

if she replies with a question instead of a blatant NO, it means she DOES want to but she is unsure of public protocol only.

"Why did you ask me that?"

"Shhh. come here :) *kiss*"

Shit, I cant figure this one out you say to yourself, fuck it, 3 second rule, Im IN. BAM, you walk up. "Hi, Buy Diazepam No Prescription. *smile*"

Girls: hi

you: my kingdom for a pencil

girls: here (giving one)

you: (sharpening it then giving it back) hows THAT for a random act of

kindness, hmmm?

girls: where's the kingdom?

you: my kingdom IS a pencil sharpener.

compliments are good on women who are 8.5 and below. They are very useful (but never looks or anatomy or something that you know the girl got complimented on alot before), Diazepam price. But a 10. uh-uh. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, dont do it. she gets them ALL the time. by NOT giving them, the girl will feel the LACK of attention (a self-esteem) thing and she will do things to TRY to ellicite a favourable response from you (which means she is now CHASING YOU.)

Telling a girl, "you need to wash that dress

already!"

I took a gum out and offered

it to her. She said, "no thanks Im drinking beer." I replyed, "I know ... take the gum." It was fun.

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let us kindly differentiate between a NICE GUY and a GENTLEMAN. Like Satan himself, a womanizer or pick-up artist is a GENTLEMAN, but not a NICE GUY. 100% true. Do the approaching and initiate a conversation, Where can i buy Diazepam online, but be funny and cool and a tad cocky even. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, Appear to not care whether you ever see her or not again. That is why openers (or INTROs) must be non sexual.

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all the other girls were OBSTACLES. you have to REMOVE the obstacles first buddy, this is textbook. Buy Diazepam No Prescription, spend MORE time with all the others than you do with the 10. thats how you GET a 10. Heres the reasoning. the friends NEVER get the attention because of the 10. so when you come and IGNORE them, they see you as just another guy. Instead, if you ignored her (putting her in her place) and payed attention to the friends, they would like you for two reasons 1) you are paying attention to them which feels good and 2) you arent paying attention to the 10 which makes you look like you are in control and therefore a perfect match for the 10. Its textbook. REMEMBER, ALWAYS remove the OBSTACLES first.

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> Wow!  Good thing I did those sit-ups this morning.... so, let's test
your
> skills at "cyberseduction".... describe what you see, and make me
feel warm
> fuzzy feelings.

It's important that your in the right mood for this, so if you aren't
ready to  think about the pleasures of another, you might not want read
this carefully and really try to  feel what I'm talking about.

As you read this, hopefully you  feel warm and comfortable.  You're
wearing a soft sweater that shows your curves but leaves just enough to
the imagination.
I like to start by getting really close, maybe sitting on a sofa.  I
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of your neck, the fullness of your lips.  I want to pull myself close
to your face so you can feel my breath on your cheak and then on your
neck.  I can faintly smell your perfume.  I wrap my hand gently but
firmly around the nape of your neck.  Your skin is so beautiful and I
wisper into your ear how much it turns me on to look at it and feel it.
Then I begin to kiss your neck very gently.  You let me know you like
it by tilting your head and letting out a long breath.  The excitement
of touching eachother and learning each other for the first time is
making me so turned on.
I can feel you arm under my shoulders, exploring my back muscles and it
makes me feel like  you want me.  We both feel very warm and close, and
you find yourselve almost nervous about how right it feels and how
comfortable you are.  Yet there is still the excitement of the unknown.
Slowly I move your hair out of the way as I kiss the nape of your
neck.  It feels good.  We are both breathing heavier now.  I stop, and
pull my head away to look at how pretty you are again.  I have a big
smile on my face, and it's clear that I am very happy.  I tell you
about how much your eyes make me want you, want to hold you, want to
feel you.  I pull your head to my chest and you tell me  I smell good.
You notice how firmly I pull you torwards me as Kiss you on the lips.
We fit together perfectly and as we share each others lips, our mouths
open more and more.  After a few minutes of sweet surender, playfully
our tongues touch.  Lightly and gingerly.  We are getting to know each
other.
We are pressed closely together and I can feel your breasts firmly
against my body.  In my mind I imagine them naked against my skin.  My
grip on you tighens as I think more and more about it and you can feel
my hand moving and squeezing all over your back and your side.  It's
firm, hard and passionate.  I notice your hands have become more
adventurous as well.  One is still grabing my arm and the is around by
lower back, but your grip and movements are much more powerful.  You
are pulling me on top of you.
As you lean to side we kiss, and I gently lower you to lie down on the
sofa.  You are suprised at how easily I support you as your back comes
to a rest on the cushion.
My right leg crosses over your thigh as our lips press together.  My
kissing has become firmer and I'm kissing you all over, but I always
return to your lips.  Our tongue intertwine and we know exactly what
the other likes and what the other wants.  I am amazed how perfectly we
mesh and I can tell you feel perfectly relaxed with me, as if we were
made specifically for this particular moment.  I kiss your neck and
your cheek.  Our faces feel like they are on fire.  I kiss your ear and
along your jaw.  As you notice how wonderful that feels you become more
and more aroused.  The more aroused you become, the more turned on I
get which makes you even hotter.
I slide down you body and I expose your stomache.  The skin is so soft
and perfect.  I can't help myself from kissing you all over.  I'm
kissing all around your stomache as Your back arches and I throw my
arms underyou as you lift youself further away the sofa with every deep
breath.  I am forfully pulling your body to my mouth.  As I kiss your
stomache more and more I know what you are thinking about.  Your face
is turned to one side.  You cheak is flushed red.
As I look at you, yOur breasts tower between us.  I now have my hands
under your sweater against the skin. My right hand slides up and down
your side while the left one is still wraped around you, pulling you
close to me.  My fingers massage you knowingly.
I have to feel your breasts.  I slide my hand around an hold you
through your bra.  I gently but firmly squeeze and explore.  I gently
touch the exposed skin above your bra.  Then I return to the full of
your breast.  I can feel your hard nipple through the fabric of your
bra.   I run my fingers over the area of breast that is exposed again
and I slide up to kiss you some more.
Together we sit up straight and you pull your sweater over your head.
I unsnap your bra, gently remove it and expose your breasts.  I pull
close to you and I rub where you bra strap had been. I rub on your side
and then you back and you feel the release.  The closeness and
gentleness helps you feel completely relaxed and confident with me.
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I kiss all over you naked chest.  Under and around, slowly and gently,
I completly explore your breasts.  Then I circle your right nipple.
The pace pics up as we get more and more turned on.  I have your other
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tightly.  Then I suckle harder.  You must be enjoying it but at this
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your heaving and the noises you are making.  I think my passion might
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I sit up and paractically rip my shirt off.  You smile  at this and
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We can barely find time to breath between our kisses.

Well, that's it for now...

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> >David Shade posted:
> >I have got to get this woman to take me home, and I have to do it 
before
> >she realizes what she is doing in this crowded night club.

> (MrSex4uNYC) wrote: 
> I TOTALLY DISAGREE!  don't discount the effects of what you are doing 
to her. 
> yes you need to get her out of the crowd... but HOME is NOT where you 
want
> her.
>  there are too many things for her to consider that are going to break 
her
> state.  make out with her.  extract her somewhere and feel her up and 
make her
> BEG to have you inside her.  I hear that shit all the time "I want you 
inside
> me"  THAT'S what counts... NOT being in her house in a bed... the fact 
that
> she
> CRAVES PENETRATION!
> 
> you are also making erroneous assumptions.  you are ASSUMING that she 
would
> not
> do this in front of people.  she TOLD YOU that she LIKES being a slut.  
maybe
> sex in public is part of her slut-persona.  maybe NOT wanting to have 
sex in
> public but being FORCED TO by a strong man is part of it.  maybe not 
wanting
> to
> have sex in public but not being able to help herself BECAUSE she is 
truly a
> slut is what turns her on.  you are assuming she will take you home at 
all. 
> what if someone is at her house like a husband or a boyfriend or her 
mother is
> visiting?  what if her neighbors are nosey and she can't AFFORD to 
have any
> random guys come to her house or they will snitch?  what if she lives 
in a
> FUCKING TRAILER and is ashamed to take you there?  you are assuming 
she would
> RATHER be fucked at home than in a bar bathroom... like... a... SLUT!  
pay
> attention to the real-life ramifications of what she says to you WHILE 
you
> listen for the SS uses.  you elicited her fantasy, but didn't USE it.  
that
> shit about a strong man was really great.
> 
> right here... you should have started role-playing.
> 
> she has MADE HERSELF the slut.  she has made you HER MASTER!  be that 
man.  be
> her master.  take her.  do it.  perhaps it is easier said than done.  
I happen
> to be a chameleon.  I can change into whatever character is necessary 
to
> complete her fantasy.  I was cyber-sexing this chick the other day, 
and I
> realized that she was into a little ROUGHER treatment than I would use 
on a
> normal chick.  I IMMEDIATELY changed my style from descriptions of my 
regular
> kino to descriptions of a MASTER controlling HIS SLUT!
> I had fun and she TOTALLY got off on it.  I COULD have ignored what 
REALLY
> made
> her feel HOT and HORNY, but I wanted her to have the most INTENSE 
orgasm she
> could have and reflecting HER FANTASY to her was the key.  you should 
have
> ASSUMED THE PERSONA of a TRUE MASTER and dragged your slut off 
somewhere and
> shoved your dick in her mouth... but then again, I know you are the 
romantic
> and this may have been an emotional STRETCH for you... but I guarantee 
you it
> would have been worth it. :)
> 
> you even SAID that she wasn't drunk.  she knows EXACTLY what she's 
doing in a
> crowded nightclub.  she GAVE her body to you to use as you pleased.  
you
> should have gotten into character and USED HER!

I would like to add something here that I think will help you and
everyone who reads this post.  (A little bragging.)  I've been doing
this player game since I was thirteen and my First sex experience was
with Linda (my age), Karen and Sherry (15 + 16).  {End of bragging.} 
And one of the things I was taught by my mentor, and learned from then
on was to strike while the iron is hot.  In other words, if you make
her horny now, you have sex with her now.  That means if you are
wanting to get her to a more comfortable place (a guy's idea of what
women want), you destroy the mood, the adventure, the excitement, the
fun, the trance, the experience of what was taking place within her and
you.  However, if you follow through and do it somewhere, anywhere,
right now, she Automatically associates you with fun, excitement,
adventure, good times, bravado and all the other things you are wanting
from her.

BTW, more then 70% of my First sexual encounters occur outside her home
and mine, and all it takes to do it, is, your assurance to her that
it's okay for her to do so with you, and there will be no negative
reprocussions by you from her doing so.  {Don't ever violate the
integrity of your words/assumptions about this because word about it
will spread everywhere, and the only way you'll get women in that town
again is by avoiding it for about ten years or more.  This does NOT
mean that you can't drop her after sex, it simply means that after you
have sex with her, you don't avoid her because she is a "slut",
"whore", or similiar, and worse yet, tell everyone she is.}

Coming back on topic again, once you have sex with her, she
Automatically associates you with sex, so now you are lovers.  Which
means sex with you from this point forward.  So there's nothing else
that has to be over-cummed (he, he) and the relationship can just
proceed because one thing --sex-- has been established and taken for
granted (as to what will be too) in your relationship with her.

I'm going to use another analogy because this is a very important
point, and one that damn near every "player" messes up on.

You're in a bar, and you're talking to some guy about what a great
fighter you are, and how you don't take shit from anyone.  Suddenly the
guy behind you, overhearing this, says bullshit and shoves you.  At
this point you either (a) show the talk, or (b) talk your way out of
it.  If you choose "b", talk your way out of it, and you're in the bar
again, talking to the same guy you were talking with, and are shoved by
the same guy who shoved you previously, and you demonstrate your talk
by knocking him clear across the room, that act will have impact and be
impressive.  But in no way would it have the same impact and meaning
had you done it when the event first warranted your showing what you
said.

Has this helped in establishing the point I'm trying to make about
always going for and having sex with her now?

> > Remaining post snipped.

There's something else I see that "NYC" didn't delve into very much,
only because, I think, it's not his style (preference) at this point in
his life.

So first let me state "NYC's" preferred style, and mine:
Presently and admitedly, "NYC" desire-preference is love 'em and leave
'em, whereas mine is an ongoing, revolving collection of primary and
subsidary relationships that last days/weeks/months/years.

From what I can tell from your post, if you want an on-going
relationship with this woman, you're going to have to walk both sides
of the track with her.  By that I mean she has told you that she wants
passion, attentiveness and affection; and she has also told you how she
wants to be a directed, submissive, led, little girl slut too. 
Therefore, you Must play the role of domineering, totally controlling
authority figure who treats her like a little girl lolita slut, and the
woman who wants attention, affection, closeness, passion and
understanding too.  Most of all, you have to learn and sense when it's
time for you to play one role or the other.

To give you an example of what I mean, you could suddenly show up with
a boquet of flowers and say "this is for a very special woman who's
also smart enough to know when she should be a good little girl and get
down on her knees now and suck on my cock to show me she's a wonderful
slut", and that would be addressing both sides of her.  But some times,
because you see it's what she wants now, you're going to have to come
right out and say (like when you're in a restuarant) "I want you to be
a good little girl and crawl under this table and suck me off. 
Otherwise I'm going to have to punish you severely", and mean it. 
Other times, because you see and sense it, you're just going to have to
say "there's a closeness, a specialness about you and us that is
present because you're such a wonderful woman who knows what she
wants".

Anyway, I've been through many of these kind of relationships and they
are the most fun ride (pun and no pun intended) you can have.  The
trick is in learning and knowing which side of the track to walk.

Other things I have learned from Adult Lolita-sluts:
1) They'll want to be with other men too.
2) They'll do women too.
3) They make for great swing partners.
4) They'll do more and more of whatever you want them to do.
5) They'll do more and more of that which will surprise you too.
6) They become Very Exhibitionistic over time, and real prick teasers
with other men.  {Which can lead to one hell of a lot of fights if you
don't know what to do.}
7) The more jealous you get, the more she will disklike and want to
leave you.
8) They become tiring after awhile.  {The good news is, after you've
had your rest from one, you'll soon want another.}

Enjoy

-- 
If life's a bitch...
fuck her!

  'o o'
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When it comes to meeting face to face, I guess, I have to be
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From jonnyjewel@my-deja.com Sun Oct  8 02:37:20 2000
From: jonnyjewel@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Club PU tips Anyone?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 02:51:01 GMT

toecutter has a lot of good advice I would just like to add a few tips.  The
dance floor is my saving grace for sex.  With out it I might still be a
virgin. Well maybe not.  It sounds like you are doing well at clubs and you
are close to turning the corner and learning how to get the dance floor PU. 
First off, toecutter is right it is a numbers game 100%. I will tell you how
I work a floor.  First off you are there to dance a have a good time, so look
like it.  Smile like you just won a million dollars and let yourself go.  Ok
your relaxed, now it's time to hunt.  What you are looking for a group of
girls together or one by herself. The one by her self is easy just dance up
to her with a open gesture and motion that you would like to dance if she
doesn't she in most cases will look away.  Ok, these groups of women 4 or
more usually have have a certain make up.  There is the hot one, the ugly
one, the not as fashionable one, and the not as hot as the hot one.  The "not
as hot as the hot one" is your target.	This girl is competing with the hot
girl and most of the time will love you for your advance.  Just step up
behind her and smile and rub your peck on her shoulder once gently.  DO NOT
TOUCH ANY PART OF HER BODY WITH YOURS.	Girls love a guys with balls, I mean
it.  She will look behind at you then look back at her friends for approval. 
Stay clam.  She will now do one of three things, back into you, step forward,
or nothing.  If she steps forward, turn right around its over, look some
where else.  If she does nothing try again, be careful she might be a bitch. 
If she gets mad it is her fault, you just wanted to see if she'd like to
dance she could have been courtious and moved away or said no.	But this one
backed into you.  Your chances of a but grind from just about any girl are
about 50%  Just ease into her and have a good time. After about three songs
of hard griding it is time to get go for broke.  Spin her around and grind
away, but she might not want to do a front grind.  If she doesn't, at the end
of the song thank her get, her name, and move on.  This can come in handy
later like a street or parking lot PU.	But you got the fount grind.  VERY
IMPORTANT!!!  If you are grinding with a girl it is your main goal to protect
her, try as hard as you can to keep other people from bumping into her.  Put
out an arm or move both of you so you are the one getting bumped.  I love the
look on girls faces when you do this, they eat it up.  After another two
songs it is time for the kiss.	Start by getting lots of eye contact, if she
not looking at you sorry no kiss for you.  But she is, start touching her
face with yours, forhead to forehead nose to nose.  Go in a couple of times
for a kiss but turn away at the last second.  And then go for it!  But DON'T
shove your tonge down her througt.  Take it easy big boy.  Do this a few
times and then stop, unless she keeps it going.  When I get this far I
usually stick with the chick untill one of us has to go.  At that point thank
her for the night and say something like, "I would like see you again."  Even
if you didn't get the kiss still # close.  If she gives you a number one
thing girls love is if you memorize it, untill she is out of sight and then
right it down, it makes you look smart. I don't ever try to pull a girls off
the dance floor, Why!  Why do you need to? Your grinding, maybe kissing what
more do you want!  She is attracted to you why mess it up by talking.  You
can run all that SS stuff if you get a date.  This brings up another point.
Unless she want to don't talk.	I ususally ask her name and where she's from.
 I leave it at that.  Yes, lost of times these girls have asshole boy friends
so they give you a fake numbers, or just they get scared. The only time you
will get a girl back to your place for the one nighter is if she wants to,
follow her lead. Other points to know for the dance floor PU is that that it
looks good for you to be seen dancing with a lots of women you might start by
dancing with a friend to get you started.  Yes, it is very competitive. So
wear your best club clothes, you might want to invest a little bit of money
in clothes just for clubing. Never ask for a dance, they always say no for
some reason.  Just so you know the girls that come up to you and dance lots
of times are the girls with asshole boy friends but still # close just in
case.  I usually make one to two passes on the dance floor per hour.  One
thing to look for is girls that you have seen dancing with different guys. 
If I don't get a dance I get off the dance floor. You look like a looser if
you are dancing around trying to get girls to dance with you. One mistake I
have made is even if she is liking the fact that your hands are all over her
body, don't move her hand to your dick.  Most importantly, you have never
wasted you time grinding with a good looking girl.

Using effemenate voice in PU

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Greg's experience in using effemenate voices in PU.


From: whoisthis19@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: The effeminant voice
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 20:27:02 GMT


I'll tell ya,  I've been noticing something and putting it into much
practice these days.  It has taken me to some differant realms.  About 6
months ago I read an article in playboy by a guy who spent alot of his
time acting gay and nailing some of the most elite models and actresses
in NYC.  He went pretty much through his life story and how he fit in
with the gays and lived in the gay community and banged chicks left and
right.  Woman who hung with this crowd (Gay fashion designers,
hairstylists... ect..) never suspected he wasn't gay and would hang
around him because they felt he was safe.  Also he was into hairstyling,
art, fashion, make up... ect... ect...  He could talk for hours with
woman about clothes, make up... ect...  I thought; ok this is cool
stuff.  He did over 2,000 lays living this lifestyle.

Anyway....

I get to run around with who I consider the most successful player in my
area.  He's fucking outragiously successful at getting about any kind of
sexual deal going at any time.  The thing is, his voice is so effemate I
can't believe it.  He talks like a girl.  He dont look like one.  In
fact he's very macho looking but still... He's like talking to a chick
and he sounds like a girl.  Even when talks to me he sounds like a girl.
I almost thought he was gay.  He'd talk about his relationships,
girlfriends, clothes... ect...  just like a chick.  It made me sick
because on the outside he looks manly enough but his tonality is so
differant from his looks.

Next I get Rick H's Masters and methods CDs.  His voice is very feminine
as well and he just talks, talks, talks... like a girl on and on...
This guy has banged over a 1,000 chicks and is famous for landing a
5-some.  Still you listen to him talk and he gets excited about his
sarges like a school girl!  Rosses voice too would go into the girl talk
mode at times.

Also on the BHSC brother orion who is outragiously successful uses very
effemate tonality.  Sometimes he almost sounds like a girl talking girl
talk to his girlfriend but the differance is he uses seductive
patterning and it's obvious he is being seductive.  What is seductive
about his tonality is it has the gentleness of a woman.  He uses very
feminine and very gentle soft tonality.  It's amasing and hard to
describe but woman eat it up!!  I will admit though major Mark and for
the most part Ross use pretty deep male tonality though I often hear
Ross laspe into almost girlish tonality at times.  but I'll bet they all
can hold thier own being just one of the girls.

Here's another point.  Most woman's attitude about picking up chicks is
this:  If you ask a girl how to pick up a chick most of them will tell
you it's the easiest thing to do.  For example:  My girlfriend picks up
chicks and has NO problem doing so.  It's so easy it fucking kills me!
She sits with the chick, does light kino, has a girl talk, gets sexual,
off they go to bed with me tagging along.  IT's so damn easy for her.
She asks me why do I have to work at it so hard.  She seriously can't
understand why I read ASF or am learning SS.  If you watch her - it
really is so easy.  That's her perspective.  I've watched other woman.
It's the same thing.  She can talk to girls freely and naturally.  She
knows all the nuances, all the phrases and has talked about sex with
woman since she was a teenager.  She knows how to talk about clothes,
hair, relationshps all in the correct manner and timing.  She even knows
the right small talk.  The thing is when she wants to bed a woman she
usually is into the stage of setting up the lay within 15 minutes.  IT's
damn fast and damn easy for her.

Also woman on this newsgroup often give advice.  They think their advise
is solid gold.  In fact the mind set is they KNOW it is solid gold.  Oh
yes it would be solid gold for a woman trying to pick up another woman.
Piss poor advice for guys who don't know all the nuances of female to
female interaction.  You woman on here who advise don't realise the
enormous gendervantage you hold.  Yes if an AFC could step inside your
skin he would indeed have EASY success but most of us big dumb guys we
have a learning curve to over come being so WAY differant from woman in
not only apperance but also in, tonality, values, cultural programming
ect...  Often the advise would be better understood if you woman would
just tell us guys to:  Be a woman!

so....

Here's the practical application and what I think.

All this stuff has added up and I must say the last three months my
sarge stradegy is changing drastically.  I frequently - ACT GAY, ACT
EFFEMATE,  talk about clothes, make up, boys and be one of the girls.  I
practice these skills and woman keep coming back for more.  I have not
experianced this much popularity with woman before.  I have in the past
always been like a shark swimming around and devouring some unsupecting
duck.  Now I am trying to relate to woman on a whole differant level.

I'm making this type of behavior around woman more natural.  It is
powerful, it works and I what I love most is I'm not doing the old games
that I used to use on woman that left them feeling dirty, degraded and
used.  It works!  I can get with girls and just talk and relate about
female interests.  Sometimes they make me a trusted male confident.  I
mean they don't ignore I'm a male but they over look it because I'm
cool.

I'm curious to what mysteries mode of talking is,  I know NYC gets in on
"chick talk" and I love how he has shared about it.  Any you guys out
there in on the chick talk?

Honestly myself I would say I've always been able to talk to chicks and
do the chick talk thing.  I do have a fairly effenate voice at times and
often am like a camelian with woman or with ethinic groups mirroring
inflection and posture.  Still I have never went as far as I have the
last couple months.  I am purposely going out and being either GAY or
FEMINIE.  I've said too any times lately to chicks;  "Do you think my
boobies are going flat?" "Oh honey what do you use on your skin?  You
look so lovely.".... ect...."

GREG just ONE of the girls
--
Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.


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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!