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Using SOI’s as a way to tease/attract chicks!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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> Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

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Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Before you buy.

Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » kissing

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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> Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Before you buy.

Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » kissing

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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> Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Before you buy.

Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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>

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » kissing

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Before you buy.

Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




-------

From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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> Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » kissing

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Before you buy.

Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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> Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
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Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » kissing

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Earlobe Kino!

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Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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> Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » kissing

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Before you buy.

Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » kissing

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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> Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Sample results when reader follows Maniac’s PU Guide

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » kissing

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!


From: Jonathan Ashton 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:04:08 GMT

In article ,
> For example, if we were to drop an SOI on the chick, and then
> IMMEDIATELY follow up with a negative command - WE control the
> flirting so that the chick then has to work for US.
>
> So we can say things like "I want to kiss you"
> And then control the flirting by pulling away again with some reverse
> commands :-
> "BUT I don't really know anything about you, and I haven't known you
> for very long, and I need to feel love first"
> Sounds like the stuff that chicks tell us, right? Well chicks say it
> to flirt, as opposed to meaning what they say!

Omigod!  Rio, this is an awesome post!  Brilliant!  Genius!

"I was thinking about kissing you, but you'd probably slobber too
  much."
"I'd love to take you home, but I know you'd get all clingy."
"I'm just trying to guess if you're any good in bed.  Too bad you're
  too young/weird/conservative for me."
"I bet you'd love the way I do neck massages.  You've been acting up
  too much to deserve one, though."

This is so EASY!  Anyone can think these up on the spot!  There's no
need to think up ambiguous sentences or come up with just the right
innuendo.  Just make a Statement of Intentions, then let her know what
SHE has to offer to make it happen - by telling her that you won't do
it because she's not up to par!  I love it!  I will try it out ASAP!

Howcome I've never seen this idea explained before?  In retrospect,
it's clear that MrSex4uNYC and Mystery do similar stuff, but I've
never seen the dynamic explained this way before.  Ross talks about
setting challenges, but it's always seemed like such a delicate art
to say just the right thing at just the right time.

But this is so easy!  Thank you, Rio.

Ash


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Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Doing a dance floor ‘Kino’ pickup!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com




Tom and Maniac write about an example of how to do a 
dance floor pickup without talking to the chick!




From tom_bc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 04:28:00 1999
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:16:37 PDT
Organization: @Home Network Canada
Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:62646

well, I have only one thing to say : great post !

is it easy to see when she goes into trance when she's dancing ? (well,
dancing people are already in a kind of trance), but how easy is it to see
the changes ?

One thing I noticed is that when you get to connected to someone, if you act
very slow and move very slow, it seems to deepen their trance, like if they
don't know what's going on. Have you noticed that as well ?

Tom

maniac_high  wrote in message
news:Q63M3.7144$%62.122399@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> Kino Report! All the details of doing an awesome kino PU!
> 991010
>
> Hi All!
>
> How to do a dance floor kino pickup has been talked about
> here recently, and it turns out, that I saw an excellent
> example of this tonight in a club, while I was out with one of
> my regular chicks. I watched the PU from start to end, and
> learned A LOT about dance floor kino pickups from what this
> guy did. I will talk about what I saw below and analyze...
> Comments/opinions welcome as usual..
>
> Okay, first of all, the PU was done with vitually no talking at
> all, so I will try to be as descriptive as I can, even though this
> was all body motions for the PU. The setting was a disco in
> Tokyo, playing regular fast paced disco dance music. I was on
> the floor with one of my regular chicks, and the following
> happened next to me with a blond haired guy, probably in
> high school, doing an excellent PU on a J-babe wearing a
> reddress. I rate her a 7.5.. His moves were very well scripted,
> and well done, here goes.. I will just list it out, then talk more
> below. This was cool, and I will do this from now on..
> Analysis is at the end..
>
> -They make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other.
> -He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact
> -This happens about 2 or 3 minutes
> -He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is
> dancing, still following her pace
> -He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he
> does not pull her in.
>
> -Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits,
> and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air)
> -Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are
> stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her
> body.
> -His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He
> doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her
> buttcheeks.
> -The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass,
> is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole
> distance).
> -Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really
> following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too,
> (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing
> down as his hands were running up/down).
> [3 minutes]
>
> -While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and
> breathes softly on her neck. He does not
> try to kiss her.
> -His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head
> moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly,
> closely.
> -The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing
> her), he like crouches down, slowly, as
> his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up
> again, to her ass, and he is standing again,
> and is breathing on her neck/back again.
> [3minutes]
>
> -He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top
> of this list, and the breathing a couple times.
> -Each time he pulls her in closer.
> -She is going way into trance now.
> [4 minutes]
>
> -The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his
> hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his
> hands up.this is her cue to now do the same thing to him,
> and she does.
> -She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did
> to her before a few times.
> -She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face..
>
> -He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he
> does the same things again with the hands,
> this time from behind..
> -(she gets confused, when he tries to turn her so he just tells
> her to turn around), loses trance state..
> -He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly
> sexual..
> -She is back in trance again.
> -[3 minutes]
>
> -He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and
> he is breathing on her neck/face.
> -Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing,
> breathing on his face/neck.
> -This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss,
> and she is goes more into trance, she
> is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all.
> [3 minutes]
>
> -He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not
> kiss there..
> -He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes]..
> -She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on
> each others face,
> -This continues for what I thought is a really long time before
> the kiss starts [4 minutes]
>
> -Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each
> others lips
> -The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing..
> -The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)..
>
>
> Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it
> (I suspect he just took her home ;-) )
>
> Okay, Maniac's analysis. First, this was a REALLY GOOD
> kino pickup. There was no talking during the whole PU
> (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he
> touched her got her going. That was really cool. Some other
> things notable to me. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. I
> realized, watching this, that maybe I rush things too much,
> and try to tongue the chick too soon, and that scares her
> away, before her states are setup right.
>
> Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was
> doing the Kino. I know to watch for this now. He did not
> advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from
> looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her
> following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he
> slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to
> the next step. She was also helping him by following his
> `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience.
>
> Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss
> her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad
> yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss
> first, then move to those other parts), didn't grab her ass in a
> groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very
> smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual
> groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't
> scare her.
>
> He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30
> minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even
> his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION
> movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to
> his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open,
> looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.
> Very very good. He'd close them though when she could see
> his face. It was clear he had done this before and was
> following the "cookbook".
>
> He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I
> expected or I would have. It was good, he kept on touching
> her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made
> her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss
> rejection. I liked this..
>
> All in all, I learned a lot from watching this, and will model
> my kinos from now on to what this one looked like.. basically,
> slow down my pace, and realize I dont have to follow the
> music pace if its not appropriate to my kino pace to seduce
> the chick.
>
> Well there you go!, Constructive opinions/comments
> welcome, as usual!
>
> Maniac
>
> [Oh, BTW, another funny thing happened at that club, while
> I was there with my chick, guess who came in with her 2
> girlfriends.yep, HB blitz! It was a cool neg, my sexy GF
> hanging all over me, when I see her at the door coming in. I
> ask her, "gee where have you been (implying to my email,
> and reply that she never answered), look at my chick and feel
> her up a little, and then turn to HB blitz and say "well, see
> you around"  and go off with my chick.. .. A beautiful neg.. I
> think it deserves a followup (get your shit together email if
> you want to be that chick in my arms)..opinions anyone how
> to structure that from here?]
>
>
> --
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> Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
>

Glossary of terms used on this website/alt.seduction.fast newsgroup

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Maniac High's Glossary List


This is the glossary of terms you will find on this 
(http://www.pickupguide.com) website in the 
posts/archives/sections as well as on the 
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup..



AFC = "Another Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup 
      artist, doesn't understand how women really work, or how
      to handle them, so as a result, doesn't get laid very 
      often). Often called a "nice guy" which is really the 
      same as an AFC.

ASF = USENET newsgroup Alt.Seduction.Fast.

HB = "Hot Babe"

Hentai = A Japanese word with no real English equivalent. 
         Somewhere between "erotic", "kinky", "sexy". Ie.
         straight missionary style sex is not hentai, but
         looking at a girl's ass in super mini shorts is.
         Basically, means something slightly abnormal, or
         sexy/kinky/erotic, but in a not necessarily a bad
         way.

Kino = Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
       hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

Layguide = Tony's Layguide. Another guide on PU'ing women, like
       this one. It is mirrored at: http://www.pickupguide.com/layguide

LJBF = "Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
       does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
       she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
       how to do a proper pickup and seduction.

LTR =  Long Term Relationship

MLTR = Multiple Long Term Relationships (having more than one
       girlfriend at the same time, in several concurrent 
       steady relationships)

Nanpa = A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan, 
        where they make videos of how to do this...)

Nice Guy = see AFC explanation above

NG  = "Newsgroup" (ie. alt.seduction.fast)

NLP = "Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
      by two psychologists in the 1960s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
      book "Trance-formations  ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a 
      way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do 
      things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you 
      fuck them..etc).

Pivot = a chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up 
        other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still 
        want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works 
        because most chicks will find you more attractive and 
        get jealous when you are already with a chick than when 
        you are not.

PU = Pick Up (ie. a pick up a girl in a bar/club)

PUA = Pick Up Artist

Ross Jeffries = See "SS" term below.

Sarging = Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
          as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
          Cat.

SOI = Statement of Intent. A statement during a pickup to make it clear
      in an appropriate way that you are sexually interested in the chick
      and intend to make good on that intent

SS = "Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory 
     used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on 
     picking up chicks and fucking them. 

Wing/Wingman = A guy friend that goes with you to PU/nanpa chicks.

Buy Iressa No Prescription

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Before you buy.

Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website
http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac refines his lay system on two double back to back
nights of first lays.




From: Maniac High 
Newsgroup: Alt.Seduction.Fast
Date: May 7,2000
Subject: Lay Report! Nursebabe takes her medicine!


Lay Report! Nursebabe bends over and takes her medicine!
000502

This is the second part of  yet another  lay report double 
feature, as this morning, after kicking out Karate Babe, I took 
the afternoon off, and then had an evening (and into the next 
morning) with Nursebabe. For those of you who remember, a 
few weeks ago, I posted up a "Challenge Report" regarding 
Nursebabe, a chick I met who was sexy, but not particularly 
in control of her schedule. 

This double feature is interesting to me, because Karatebabe 
and Nursebabe are two very different types of chicks, so each 
required slightly different techniques to bag. Compared to 
Karatebabe, who is very intelligent,  nursebabe isn't 
particularly a bright light, so using the "logical/fear" 
approach I used on karatebabe was unlikely to work on 
nursebabe. Nursebabe is your typical big tits, firm body 
bimbo. Not LTR material, but fun nevertheless. Lets look at 
what I did after that first challenge report to get to the lay..

Here we go:
After the challenge report, I met her again once and she told 
me that there was a party she wanted me to go to at the last 
minute for one of her friends. I wasnt prepared, and got 
jerked into this. That was a fuckup. I never want to go to 
events that have other friends of chicks I am trying to lay, 
because there is a lot of uncontrollable variables (one her 
friends might not like me, and discourage her, or some guy 
may make be look bad, or someone might know me, . or it 
may be boring and I will look bored, it is hard to get the chick 
out of the party without all her friends wanting to come 
along, and then get dragged to a coffeeshop/bar.then her 
friends drag her (to her) home without me. whatever.just 
its an uncontrollable situation, and its bad.. I try to never 
meet a chick under such circumstances). 

Sure enough, that is exactly what happened, she wanted to 
stay with her friends, and then they all wanted to walk back to 
the trainstation to go home together. no way to really 
extract her cleanly. So what I did do, is try to extract her 
(which of course she couldn't, since she was with her 
friends), and then did the "do you really like me routine, I am 
not sure, as you always have to leave early/dont pay attention 
to me" (ie. the same shit chicks do to us). I made her feel 
guilty as shit, and then told her if she wants to see me again, 
then she has to show I am more important by having a free 
evening for only the two of us together, no friends, no going 
home early for 5am shift.no shit like that. I just laid the line 
down to her if she wanted to see me again. I told her that I 
wanted to show  my "favorite"  Izakaya (small Japanese 
drinking bar) near my house to her. This is a nice way to get 
her to very close to my place, and allows her to use her "chick 
logic" to say to herself  "I am not going to fuck him, just I am 
going to drinks. oh, but now I am near his house, ..oh, and 
he asked me to go see. oh, ok, ..oh, we are kissing.oh, we 
are petting.oh now I am getting fucked.oh, but I like it,. 
well it wasnt my fault.I didn't do anything and couldnt help 
it..it just happened".. Isn't chick logic wonderful ;-)

Sure enough, she came up with exactly what I asked for, and 
let me have Saturday (into Sunday) the following week. First 
she was busy in the day, but not the night, but then got the 
day work schedule cancelled. She wanted to meet me in the 
afternoon, but I didn't want to do that, because then you are 
stuck with a chick for 4 hours, and it is hard to get her home 
to fuck in the day. much easier in the evening. So I told her 
that I was already busy in the day (I wasnt really), since she 
said she would be busy in the day, and could meet her at 8pm.

8pm is nice, because it is too late for supper really, so a chick 
cant try to drag you to a restaurant. Also, it is late enough, 
that it implies what is going to happen if she shows up to this 
date. Sure enough, when nursebabe showed up, she brought a 
small backpack with her, like karatechick did the night 
before, implying that she was intending to spend the night 
(and fuck). That just means that I had to not fuck up, and I 
could get the lay (again, like with karatebabe the night 
before).

Before meeting her, I did like with karatebabe, and thought 
the plan for the evening what what I will talk about (3 or 4 
topics), in case I stall, or in case conversations start to go in 
the wrong direction. I find that preparing this ahead of time 
makes all the world of difference. 

I decided the themes for nursebabe would be "language 
barrier, but surprising how we could feel so close/special", 
and "fun doing things together that we like together..referring 
to the past meetings we had". Anything deeper would confuse 
nursebabe I was afraid..

I arrive at the station area few minutes early, but walk around 
in the streets nearby (I will arrive a few minutes late at the 
train station intentionally). I make sure I am calm, and know 
the "themes" to talk about, and review the plan to get her 
over. I also find myself using RJ's famous "I make no excuses 
for my desires as a man" line a couple times, and seeing how 
it makes me really calm, that I dont have to be nervous to 
meet a chick.any chick, including this one., and that it is up 
to the chick to "impress me!", if she wants to have my 
attention, and that includes her having to sleep with me...
I spend about 10 minutes thinking about that while walking 
around nearby.

I show up a couple minutes late at the train station (I do this, 
because, it is anti supplicative, and also it means that I can 
approach the chick, and hug/kiss her, like Taro-san says. If I 
am the one waiting, and she is walking out of the station to 
see me, this is more awkward somehow. so better she be the 
one waiting..).

I meet nursebabe, and hug/kiss her.. No problem, and we take 
hands and start walking. Now one thing I did with the last 
two chicks (HB Vamp, and Karatebabe), is rather than go to 
the house right away (and risk a freakout when I make 
moves), I take them to an "Izakaya" (a tiny drinking bar that 
has light foods too, like yakitori..etc), first, which is near my 
house. This loosens them up, and I can do kino/kissing and 
get them ready to take back to my place. I learned this, 
because HB vamp told me that time she came to my house the 
first time, she wanted me, but we went directly home, and she 
felt "nervous" somehow, like it was too sudden. Now, by 
going to Izakaya (which of course we can sit at the bar, so I 
can sit next to the chick, and kino/kiss her), this lets me go 
from the initial meeting, to kissing and kino (plus 1 drink or 
two to loosen up the chick).now the chick is MUCH MORE 
ready to go home and fuck after all that touching.

Since Nursebabe is a dumb chick, I couldnt really have deep 
conversations with her, and NLP was definitely out of the 
question (doesnt work on dumb people as far as I can tell). So 
I did what smooth does, talk about being friends, and close, 
and pouring on SHITLOADS of kino, my hands on her 
shoulders, then legs, then up thighs more, then holding 
hands. We talked about stupid stuff like her work schedule, 
and how it is so tiring for her, and how it is good to relax 
sometimes and forget all your troubles..etc. ..all the while, 
pouring on the kino..

Then I got her to compliment me on something (studying my 
Japanese hard so I can talk to her (nursebabe cant speak 
english), and then got her to kiss me on the cheek for that, 
then I had her give me a real kiss, which turned into a 
tonguedown.).  I remarked how it was surprising we could 
understand each other so well, even though my Japanese was 
not so great, then went in for another deep kiss to express 
that. 

After that, I figured she was ready, so we ordered one last 
drink (we shared, that way if she stalls the drink, I can finish 
it for her, and get her out), drank it and left. Now by this 
point, like karatebabe the night before, she KNEW what was 
coming next, and I didnt even have to ask her to come over, 
she just walked out of the bar, and started heading in the 
direction of the house (versus asking "what next", or head the 
direction of the trainstation). I took her hand, and we walked 
back to the house, stopping to kiss a couple times along the 
way, to make sure she didnt lose the mood.

Once we got to the house, I turned up the lights, and put on 
some pop music album (I found that dim lights and romantic 
music, at first, scares the chick somehow, like happened to 
Ms. Sparkles in that fuckup report from last year). So this is 
casual, and bright. I do however, have the right music already 
setup in the bedroom upstairs (Best of Andre Gangnon 74 
minutes long). 

I gesture nursebabe to the couch (it is only a 2 seater now, as I 
took out the middle section and took it upstairs, so now the 
chick MUST sit close to me), and I start kissing her and 
feeling her up a bit. There is some resistance, so I just ask her 
"do you like me". Of course she says Yes.  Now some 
people might say this is supplication, but I dont think so. 
because, if you did the kissing, kino right, you KNOW what 
the answer will be, and her saying it, confirms it in her mind, 
for what is about to happen next. And also, the chick is also 
thinkingto ask (and often does) the same thing (does the guy 
like me, or does he just want to play me and dump me after). 
By asking her first, this throws her off, and also, "confirms" 
your "sincere" intentions. 

After she said yes, then I moved right to some tit action, and 
had no resistance.. We pet and play for about 5 minutes, and I 
ask her in a soft voice again "you like me", she replies in a 
soft voice, "yes". I say "ok" softly, take her hand and lead her 
upstairs to the tatami mat bedroom.

I turn on the music, soft light, kiss her, and immediately start 
undressing her, in a slow romantic kind of way, while 
touching her all over at the same time.top goes off, bra,, and 
I start massaging/kissing her breasts. Then I lie her gently on 
the mat, pull off the skirt/panties and start kissing 
her/massaging her all over, and get to fingering her. It is easy 
to make her cum, so I have her cum once. Then I put on the 
condom and fuck her, and make her cum again..

We hug and rest (she is shitty at massage, and the "little 
things" that count, but most dumb chicks are actually). Later 
I fuck her again silly, and then we go to sleep.

The next morning, she is a bit chilly, wants to watch TV 
(turned it on even without asking, downstairs), which was a 
bit annoying, I joke with her about TV being more important 
than me, but really, I expect this, as less bright chicks often 
do shit like this without thinking. She says she wants to see 
me again, I say I do too (I would like to get her maybe 2 or 3 
more times), and I send her out.

Constructive comments/opinions welcome, as usual!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Setting up a truth-or-dare situation!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Setting up chicks to play Truth-or-Dare!


Date Posted: 1999/06/26 07:35:56 PM EDT
Author: Craig 
Subject: Truth or Dare

Remember how easy it was to kiss girls playing truth or
dare in high school?  Well, guess what...It still works
with college age women...Except now your fucking! My
wingman and I use this everytime we bring girls back to my
house.  We always end up banging our chicks of choice, but
the best part is you get to do freaky shit with both of
them!  Not to mention that the lesbian action (unavoidable
when playing with me!) is a great way to psyche yourself up
for some serious sex.

  We make a plan about what and who we are gonna do before
we start and prep each other with good dares and truths.
DO NOT play this without whip cream...this is the most
important acessory you will need.  You will be amazed when
you see how turned on a girl can get just by liking whipped
cream of her stomach.  Start off with little stuff like
kisses and then move up to licking whipped cream off
nipples, dryfucking, lapdances, and the closer...Dare your
wing to go in a room with one of the chicks for 5 minutes
and see what happens.  At this time grab the other girl and
wear out your carpet.  At this point the girls will be so
turned on from the licking and kissing that you can
basically do whatever you want with them.  When your alone
in the room you can be like,"I dare you to let me come in
your mouth" etc.

  Sounds great so far right?  But your worried about how to
get the game started.  You cant just say, "Ok, time for
truth or dare".  To the girls it sounds more like, "Ok,
time for us to use you for our sexual entertainment."  You
have to sneak them into it.  My recipe goes like this:
Start off with the greatest drinking game of all time,
Asshole, to get them nice and liquored up.  Then move on to
the game Im about to describe.

  Throw out any card below an 8.  Take the rest and spread
them in a circle around the biggest cup you can find.  Now
you take turns drawing cards.

8 = Band Names. Go around the table saying band
names.  Each name has to start with the last letter of the
previous name.  For instance, I say Vanilla Ice, the next
person says Eric Clapton, next person says Nine Inch
Nails.  If you cant think of one in ten seconds then you
drink and the next person draws a card.
9 = Truth.  You can ask who ever you want.
10 = Person to left drinks for 5 sec.
Jack = Dare.  Whoever you want.
Queen = Everyone drinks for 5 count.
King = Fill up the huge cup with 1/3 of the way full with
whatever you are drinking.  The person who draws the last
king has to pound whatever nasty mixture ends up in the cup.

  After a few rounds you will start running out of band
names since you cant say the same one twice.  Wait till one
of the girls cant remember a band name then say,"Lets just
pllay truth or dare".  They will happily agree if your
dares and truths were exciting and getting them horny.

  My wing and I played this thursday night with 3 girls and
4 guys.  At the beginning of the night the girls actually
asked me if they could stay over so they didnt have to
drive home drunk!  After much a serious truth or dare
session with tons of sexual acts, I dared my wing to go in
a room for 5 min with one of the chicks and see what
happens.  They never came out.  It was getting late and I
had to work the next morning.  I tossed the other two girls
some blankets and said, "You two can sleep in my bed if you
want, but dont be thinking we're gonna hook up and shit
cause I really gotta get some sleep."  10 minutes later one
of the girls cruises into my room, jumps in bed with me and
starts kissing me.  She was about an 8 but it was 3:30 so I
told her I had to sleep and to leave her number and we
would continue this the next night.  In the meantime my
brother has gotten the 3rd chick into his room and my other
friend is spanking hank in my bathroom.

  Ive never played this game before without all the girls
willing to bang at the end, whether they have boyfriends or
not.  I got the idea a year ago when I was asking a girl if
she had ever had a lesbian experience.  She told me that
the only time she ever did was in a crazy game of truth or
dare when she got dared to eat some girl out for 5 min.
Neither of these girls were bi before it happened.  This
just goes to show that the possibilities are endless!!!

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Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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From xxjuanxx@yupimail.com Fri Feb 25 02:21:59 2000
From: "depredador" 
Subject: maniac, everyone here?s a kiss close first date.
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

I met this girl on december 30 last date of work at the company
I work for. she was talking to a friend of mine and I approch them
say hello to my friend and then to her.

when I saw her a couple of hours later alone I asked her how long
had she known my friend, I started asking her what she usually 
does on weekends, favorit type of movies,artist,music,....
she gave me her phone number and I told her that I was probably going
to the beach that weekend, but if not I would give her a call.

I gave her a call on january 1 after telling her a couple of jokes
about new year?s day I set up the date at 6 pm (usually the sun sets at
7 here in winter and at 8 pm on summer) I met her at a shopping
center near where she lives. when i saw her i told her first "happy new
year" and hug her to start the kino. we got in my car and 
went to a coffee/bar shop. 

when we were in the car i started talking to her about last night
parties, but she looked kind of unconfortable
i started talking about music, artist she had told me se liked.
at the coffee shop i chose a four chair table and i sat next to her.
i told her how nice is to have someone to share the free time
if she?d had a boyfriend she got along with pretty well, after hearding
her story i started telling her my favorit love story "a real one" at
my work a have a friend who?s sister used to work there 
she went to california for some trainnig and met a guy there
they started to send e-mails to each other, he came to this company
for a month they went out in california,and went out when he came down
here. he went back and after a couple of months they decided to get
merried they got merried and went to live in california. well this is
the story, of course the way i usually tell it to girls sounds more
interesting, besides when i told them about when they went out i start
to use some ss tips from ross like: as she kept talking to her
she notice she liked the sound of his voice, she notice they have the
same likes, dislikes, about movies music, kind of the same goals and
probably that?s why the get along with each other very well.
you know you never know when/where you can meet someone that?s gonna
change your life. it was kind of  hard to start the kino since she had
her arms crossed. but she looked as if she were daydreaming after
hearding the story. she was wearing a couple of golden rings so i touch
them and said, there nice so she uncrossed her arms i started to hold
her hand and said your skin is real soft i?m sure you don?t do de
dishes. se laughs. l let her hand go. finish our drinks.

 we went for a walk. i stopped out side of the coffee shop. there was a
picture of gloria stefan on the wall, one of her favorite singers i
offer my arm
a la french while pointing with my other hand at the picture.
and continue walking i was wearing a collar/button bu short sleeve
shirt as she was holding my arm she started to rob it a little bit
and laid it against her tit. a took her to a souveniers shop started
looking at the things on the window, slowly raised my hand to point at
a puppet like toy that was on top so she had to let go of my arm
while i was asking her if she like that one a took her hand. and
continue walking, i head to an area near by were there are usually some
couples kissing. at that time 8-9pm. i stopped the walking and told
her. you know when i used to live in usa a friend taught me that when
they meet an special person in europe they let her know it whith
a hug and a kiss on the cheek, so i did that i was starting to get a
little nervous since this was one of my first expiriences using this
tips. after that i started to hold both her hands. and started to get
my body closed to hers. no resistence. i ask her. are you a romantic
girl? she said she was i tried to kiss her she looked to the side
avoiding the kiss. i started to kiss her cheek,neck,hear. no
resistence, i started while kissig her cheek to get closer to her
mouth, she looked to the side again, so i started to kiss the corner of
her mouth. i told her i?ve have i wonderful time with you tonight.
she looked at me and lean forward so i started to kiss her passionetly.
kept walking,french kissing. it was like 10 pm
she said she had to go home know since she was going some where with
her mom early. so i took her home.
i was able to lay her two weeks later.

ok i live in guadalajara mexico the second biggest city famous for
mariachi,beautiful girls and tequila (there?s a small town an hour away
called tequila where tequila originated. that?s where the name comes
from) so my first language is spanish. guadalajara is four hours  from
puerto vallarta. a beach crowded all year round with turist from
usa and canada.
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