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Handling Chick Bullshit – Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be
monogamous!   (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC)

From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be 
monogamous!
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I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
ago).

Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 

Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
would just walk away..

Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: 
Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 
minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). 
Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her 
good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate 
herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many 
chicks you see..

Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, 
as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and 
other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't 
have that now..

So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look 
at it, and then analyze it in "[]"  (below):

Ms. Kinky:,

[I left early last night because I was rather tired..]

>Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine 
made you 
>sick? Did I upset you?

No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, 
which was the question you asked last night..

Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to 
understand something we did talk about sometime ago 
already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited 
relationship right now. 

I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, 
I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when 
I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might 
be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody 
when I want.

[Maniac lays down the line.... again...]

It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very 
satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I 
want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such 
things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of 
speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it 
is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand 
that fact, and accept it.

[Yep, its special, and think about that!]

Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the 
fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that 
you are.
--

[Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a 
question!]

As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, 
when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or 
place. What if the answer had been yes? 

[Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such 
bullshit...]

Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I 
had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have 
had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying 
unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, 
(one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I 
really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. 

Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible 
consequences the next time when you raise such topics..

[Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...]

When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need 
to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. 
Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, 
and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I 
understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all 
ways). That is what I want to focus on.. 

Maniac

 =-=-=-=-=
That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to 
raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules 
are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her 
bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh 
yeah, right, sure she will..

And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to 
meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend..

The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a-
vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her 
already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more 
than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many 
chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where 
you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you 
for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, 
(heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the 
house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another 
chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make 
them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they 
may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". 

Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be 
firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate 
everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't 
help themselves, as their brains want your attention and 
approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win..

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From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000
From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
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In article <6O_N4.7060Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » handlingn5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high"
 writes:

>I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
>during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
>wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
>seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
>answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
>ago).
>
>Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
>situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
>chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
>place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
>slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
>said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
>speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 
>
>Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
>really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
>would just walk away..

maniac :)

I read the rest of this.  the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS
angling for the monogamous relationship.  it is biological... just like it is
biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around
(well... before condoms that is)  that is why even though she KNEW the rules,
she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :)

in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR.  it is a
totally OPEN relationship.  she is the one that requested it and I agreed.  the
reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she
was going to get with me was to accept my freedom.  she was going to have to be
"MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she
would be unceremoniously EJECTED!  not because I don't like her... I just don't
operate like that anymore :)

for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to
believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her
that you CAN NOT get from another chick.  that doesn't happen to me because
girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me.  she can HEAR them
asking me to call them back.  she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she
has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone
like me.  as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as
far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport...
however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem
WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH".  I know THIS MUCH though... if she
decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is
INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her.

one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had
to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN
PULL BITCHES!  the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get
another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not
with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks.

besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you
WILL see other chicks if the op arises.  the question she asked you is
structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her...
she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING
MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has
to LIKE IT TOO!  >:)

Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! 
Date: 11/12/2000 
Author: maniac_high  

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies!
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Mystery wrote in another post this week regarding lying
to chicks, about how not to underestimate how delusional
a chick is willing to become in order to keep her 'happy'
view of the world.
 
He is absolutely right. And this explains how seeming
'jerk' can get away with what seems like such ridiculous
shit.
 
Case in point, is where I recently did a fuckup, and then
recovered with Karatebabe (see lay report, my page). This
is the chick that would go around my place after sex
cleaning up her own hairs so that "the other chicks"
wouldnt find out about her.
 
Well, one day we are going for coffee, and she asks me
if I had been seeing another chick at the time I started
dating her. Figuring (incorrectly) from her behavior,
that this chick knew totally what the score already was,
I said I had been (wrong answer!).
 
She freaked out and went balistic at me. Shit about "how
I make her fool, go behind her back..and other shit".
In retrospect it was clear though.. she got upset, because
something she merely 'suspected' (even though it was fucking
obvious as shit, as other chicks stuff was all over the
fucking house), now became something 'confirmed', and that
shattered her entire world..
 
I then smartened up and realized what I had just done,
and recovered by saying that I dumped her after I first
started dating you (Karatebabe), a few weeks later.
 
After that, she settled down (even though every week
there was different chick stuff all over the house
after that!). She asked me about it, and I said no,
there are no chicks..
 
She said she accepted that, and that her 'nightmare'
now was over, and everything was fine again.
 
Later she found some makeup and chick stuff in the
bathroom cabinet (another chick must have slipped
it there for someone else to find it), so I had
to think fast on my feet for that one...
 
So I told her that I have a real dark secret and
she might be very disappointed in me (now she is
expecting to hear something about a chick)..
 
Then (remembering she likes gays and stuff) I tell
her that I like to make believe to dress like a girl
(lots of J-guys do it actually, so I know it is not
so far fetched here), and I have guy friends that do it
with me, and sorry I didnt tell you earlier.. (of
course this is TOTALLY false.. Maniac is not even
remotely gay, nor a crossdresser or any of that shit)...
however.. she ACCEPTED that story, and was relieved
(in spite of the fact that I was almost cracking up
when I said it, since I was SURE she would call me
on my bullshit... but she didnt)!
 
Fuck!, the totally ridiculous things you have to
tell a chick...  AND! they accept it (as they
try to internalize it and believe it at least at
some level so that their happy delusional world
doesn't come crashing to bits)..
 
Strange, isnt it..!
 
Maniac High
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Handling Alpha Male OG Intrusions!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be
monogamous!   (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC)

From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be 
monogamous!
000428

I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
ago).

Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 

Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
would just walk away..

Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: 
Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 
minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). 
Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her 
good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate 
herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many 
chicks you see..

Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, 
as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and 
other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't 
have that now..

So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look 
at it, and then analyze it in "[]"  (below):

Ms. Kinky:,

[I left early last night because I was rather tired..]

>Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine 
made you 
>sick? Did I upset you?

No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, 
which was the question you asked last night..

Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to 
understand something we did talk about sometime ago 
already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited 
relationship right now. 

I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, 
I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when 
I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might 
be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody 
when I want.

[Maniac lays down the line.... again...]

It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very 
satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I 
want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such 
things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of 
speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it 
is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand 
that fact, and accept it.

[Yep, its special, and think about that!]

Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the 
fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that 
you are.
--

[Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a 
question!]

As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, 
when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or 
place. What if the answer had been yes? 

[Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such 
bullshit...]

Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I 
had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have 
had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying 
unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, 
(one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I 
really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. 

Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible 
consequences the next time when you raise such topics..

[Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...]

When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need 
to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. 
Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, 
and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I 
understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all 
ways). That is what I want to focus on.. 

Maniac

 =-=-=-=-=
That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to 
raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules 
are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her 
bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh 
yeah, right, sure she will..

And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to 
meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend..

The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a-
vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her 
already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more 
than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many 
chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where 
you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you 
for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, 
(heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the 
house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another 
chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make 
them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they 
may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". 

Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be 
firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate 
everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't 
help themselves, as their brains want your attention and 
approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win..

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From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000
From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Lines: 63

In article <6O_N4.7060Handling Chick Bullshit – Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous!n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high"
 writes:

>I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
>during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
>wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
>seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
>answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
>ago).
>
>Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
>situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
>chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
>place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
>slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
>said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
>speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 
>
>Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
>really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
>would just walk away..

maniac :)

I read the rest of this.  the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS
angling for the monogamous relationship.  it is biological... just like it is
biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around
(well... before condoms that is)  that is why even though she KNEW the rules,
she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :)

in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR.  it is a
totally OPEN relationship.  she is the one that requested it and I agreed.  the
reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she
was going to get with me was to accept my freedom.  she was going to have to be
"MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she
would be unceremoniously EJECTED!  not because I don't like her... I just don't
operate like that anymore :)

for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to
believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her
that you CAN NOT get from another chick.  that doesn't happen to me because
girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me.  she can HEAR them
asking me to call them back.  she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she
has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone
like me.  as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as
far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport...
however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem
WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH".  I know THIS MUCH though... if she
decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is
INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her.

one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had
to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN
PULL BITCHES!  the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get
another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not
with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks.

besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you
WILL see other chicks if the op arises.  the question she asked you is
structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her...
she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING
MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has
to LIKE IT TOO!  >:)

Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare!

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! 
Date: 11/12/2000 
Author: maniac_high  

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies!
001112
 
Mystery wrote in another post this week regarding lying
to chicks, about how not to underestimate how delusional
a chick is willing to become in order to keep her 'happy'
view of the world.
 
He is absolutely right. And this explains how seeming
'jerk' can get away with what seems like such ridiculous
shit.
 
Case in point, is where I recently did a fuckup, and then
recovered with Karatebabe (see lay report, my page). This
is the chick that would go around my place after sex
cleaning up her own hairs so that "the other chicks"
wouldnt find out about her.
 
Well, one day we are going for coffee, and she asks me
if I had been seeing another chick at the time I started
dating her. Figuring (incorrectly) from her behavior,
that this chick knew totally what the score already was,
I said I had been (wrong answer!).
 
She freaked out and went balistic at me. Shit about "how
I make her fool, go behind her back..and other shit".
In retrospect it was clear though.. she got upset, because
something she merely 'suspected' (even though it was fucking
obvious as shit, as other chicks stuff was all over the
fucking house), now became something 'confirmed', and that
shattered her entire world..
 
I then smartened up and realized what I had just done,
and recovered by saying that I dumped her after I first
started dating you (Karatebabe), a few weeks later.
 
After that, she settled down (even though every week
there was different chick stuff all over the house
after that!). She asked me about it, and I said no,
there are no chicks..
 
She said she accepted that, and that her 'nightmare'
now was over, and everything was fine again.
 
Later she found some makeup and chick stuff in the
bathroom cabinet (another chick must have slipped
it there for someone else to find it), so I had
to think fast on my feet for that one...
 
So I told her that I have a real dark secret and
she might be very disappointed in me (now she is
expecting to hear something about a chick)..
 
Then (remembering she likes gays and stuff) I tell
her that I like to make believe to dress like a girl
(lots of J-guys do it actually, so I know it is not
so far fetched here), and I have guy friends that do it
with me, and sorry I didnt tell you earlier.. (of
course this is TOTALLY false.. Maniac is not even
remotely gay, nor a crossdresser or any of that shit)...
however.. she ACCEPTED that story, and was relieved
(in spite of the fact that I was almost cracking up
when I said it, since I was SURE she would call me
on my bullshit... but she didnt)!
 
Fuck!, the totally ridiculous things you have to
tell a chick...  AND! they accept it (as they
try to internalize it and believe it at least at
some level so that their happy delusional world
doesn't come crashing to bits)..
 
Strange, isnt it..!
 
Maniac High
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Handling Alpha Male OG Intrusions!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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Tonguing down Cheatchick – Handling a chick with a boyfriend

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Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be
monogamous!   (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC)

From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be 
monogamous!
000428

I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
ago).

Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 

Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
would just walk away..

Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: 
Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 
minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). 
Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her 
good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate 
herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many 
chicks you see..

Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, 
as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and 
other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't 
have that now..

So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look 
at it, and then analyze it in "[]"  (below):

Ms. Kinky:,

[I left early last night because I was rather tired..]

>Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine 
made you 
>sick? Did I upset you?

No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, 
which was the question you asked last night..

Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to 
understand something we did talk about sometime ago 
already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited 
relationship right now. 

I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, 
I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when 
I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might 
be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody 
when I want.

[Maniac lays down the line.... again...]

It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very 
satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I 
want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such 
things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of 
speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it 
is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand 
that fact, and accept it.

[Yep, its special, and think about that!]

Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the 
fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that 
you are.
--

[Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a 
question!]

As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, 
when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or 
place. What if the answer had been yes? 

[Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such 
bullshit...]

Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I 
had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have 
had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying 
unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, 
(one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I 
really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. 

Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible 
consequences the next time when you raise such topics..

[Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...]

When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need 
to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. 
Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, 
and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I 
understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all 
ways). That is what I want to focus on.. 

Maniac

 =-=-=-=-=
That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to 
raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules 
are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her 
bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh 
yeah, right, sure she will..

And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to 
meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend..

The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a-
vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her 
already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more 
than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many 
chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where 
you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you 
for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, 
(heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the 
house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another 
chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make 
them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they 
may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". 

Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be 
firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate 
everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't 
help themselves, as their brains want your attention and 
approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win..

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From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000
From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Lines: 63

In article <6O_N4.7060$0n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high"
 writes:

>I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
>during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
>wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
>seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
>answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
>ago).
>
>Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
>situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
>chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
>place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
>slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
>said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
>speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 
>
>Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
>really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
>would just walk away..

maniac :)

I read the rest of this.  the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS
angling for the monogamous relationship.  it is biological... just like it is
biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around
(well... before condoms that is)  that is why even though she KNEW the rules,
she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :)

in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR.  it is a
totally OPEN relationship.  she is the one that requested it and I agreed.  the
reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she
was going to get with me was to accept my freedom.  she was going to have to be
"MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she
would be unceremoniously EJECTED!  not because I don't like her... I just don't
operate like that anymore :)

for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to
believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her
that you CAN NOT get from another chick.  that doesn't happen to me because
girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me.  she can HEAR them
asking me to call them back.  she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she
has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone
like me.  as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as
far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport...
however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem
WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH".  I know THIS MUCH though... if she
decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is
INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her.

one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had
to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN
PULL BITCHES!  the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get
another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not
with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks.

besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you
WILL see other chicks if the op arises.  the question she asked you is
structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her...
she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING
MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has
to LIKE IT TOO!  >:)

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Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be
monogamous!   (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC)

From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be 
monogamous!
000428

I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
ago).

Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 

Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
would just walk away..

Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: 
Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 
minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). 
Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her 
good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate 
herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many 
chicks you see..

Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, 
as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and 
other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't 
have that now..

So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look 
at it, and then analyze it in "[]"  (below):

Ms. Kinky:,

[I left early last night because I was rather tired..]

>Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine 
made you 
>sick? Did I upset you?

No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, 
which was the question you asked last night..

Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to 
understand something we did talk about sometime ago 
already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited 
relationship right now. 

I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, 
I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when 
I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might 
be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody 
when I want.

[Maniac lays down the line.... again...]

It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very 
satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I 
want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such 
things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of 
speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it 
is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand 
that fact, and accept it.

[Yep, its special, and think about that!]

Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the 
fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that 
you are.
--

[Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a 
question!]

As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, 
when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or 
place. What if the answer had been yes? 

[Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such 
bullshit...]

Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I 
had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have 
had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying 
unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, 
(one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I 
really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. 

Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible 
consequences the next time when you raise such topics..

[Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...]

When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need 
to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. 
Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, 
and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I 
understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all 
ways). That is what I want to focus on.. 

Maniac

 =-=-=-=-=
That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to 
raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules 
are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her 
bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh 
yeah, right, sure she will..

And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to 
meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend..

The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a-
vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her 
already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more 
than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many 
chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where 
you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you 
for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, 
(heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the 
house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another 
chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make 
them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they 
may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". 

Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be 
firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate 
everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't 
help themselves, as their brains want your attention and 
approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win..

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From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000
From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Lines: 63

In article <6O_N4.7060Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare!n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high"
 writes:

>I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
>during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
>wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
>seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
>answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
>ago).
>
>Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
>situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
>chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
>place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
>slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
>said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
>speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 
>
>Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
>really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
>would just walk away..

maniac :)

I read the rest of this.  the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS
angling for the monogamous relationship.  it is biological... just like it is
biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around
(well... before condoms that is)  that is why even though she KNEW the rules,
she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :)

in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR.  it is a
totally OPEN relationship.  she is the one that requested it and I agreed.  the
reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she
was going to get with me was to accept my freedom.  she was going to have to be
"MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she
would be unceremoniously EJECTED!  not because I don't like her... I just don't
operate like that anymore :)

for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to
believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her
that you CAN NOT get from another chick.  that doesn't happen to me because
girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me.  she can HEAR them
asking me to call them back.  she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she
has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone
like me.  as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as
far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport...
however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem
WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH".  I know THIS MUCH though... if she
decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is
INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her.

one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had
to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN
PULL BITCHES!  the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get
another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not
with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks.

besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you
WILL see other chicks if the op arises.  the question she asked you is
structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her...
she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING
MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has
to LIKE IT TOO!  >:)

Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! 
Date: 11/12/2000 
Author: maniac_high  

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies!
001112
 
Mystery wrote in another post this week regarding lying
to chicks, about how not to underestimate how delusional
a chick is willing to become in order to keep her 'happy'
view of the world.
 
He is absolutely right. And this explains how seeming
'jerk' can get away with what seems like such ridiculous
shit.
 
Case in point, is where I recently did a fuckup, and then
recovered with Karatebabe (see lay report, my page). This
is the chick that would go around my place after sex
cleaning up her own hairs so that "the other chicks"
wouldnt find out about her.
 
Well, one day we are going for coffee, and she asks me
if I had been seeing another chick at the time I started
dating her. Figuring (incorrectly) from her behavior,
that this chick knew totally what the score already was,
I said I had been (wrong answer!).
 
She freaked out and went balistic at me. Shit about "how
I make her fool, go behind her back..and other shit".
In retrospect it was clear though.. she got upset, because
something she merely 'suspected' (even though it was fucking
obvious as shit, as other chicks stuff was all over the
fucking house), now became something 'confirmed', and that
shattered her entire world..
 
I then smartened up and realized what I had just done,
and recovered by saying that I dumped her after I first
started dating you (Karatebabe), a few weeks later.
 
After that, she settled down (even though every week
there was different chick stuff all over the house
after that!). She asked me about it, and I said no,
there are no chicks..
 
She said she accepted that, and that her 'nightmare'
now was over, and everything was fine again.
 
Later she found some makeup and chick stuff in the
bathroom cabinet (another chick must have slipped
it there for someone else to find it), so I had
to think fast on my feet for that one...
 
So I told her that I have a real dark secret and
she might be very disappointed in me (now she is
expecting to hear something about a chick)..
 
Then (remembering she likes gays and stuff) I tell
her that I like to make believe to dress like a girl
(lots of J-guys do it actually, so I know it is not
so far fetched here), and I have guy friends that do it
with me, and sorry I didnt tell you earlier.. (of
course this is TOTALLY false.. Maniac is not even
remotely gay, nor a crossdresser or any of that shit)...
however.. she ACCEPTED that story, and was relieved
(in spite of the fact that I was almost cracking up
when I said it, since I was SURE she would call me
on my bullshit... but she didnt)!
 
Fuck!, the totally ridiculous things you have to
tell a chick...  AND! they accept it (as they
try to internalize it and believe it at least at
some level so that their happy delusional world
doesn't come crashing to bits)..
 
Strange, isnt it..!
 
Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Handling Alpha Male OG Intrusions!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! 
Date: 11/12/2000 
Author: maniac_high  

 << previous in search  ?  next in search >>  

Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies!
001112
 
Mystery wrote in another post this week regarding lying
to chicks, about how not to underestimate how delusional
a chick is willing to become in order to keep her 'happy'
view of the world.
 
He is absolutely right. And this explains how seeming
'jerk' can get away with what seems like such ridiculous
shit.
 
Case in point, is where I recently did a fuckup, and then
recovered with Karatebabe (see lay report, my page). This
is the chick that would go around my place after sex
cleaning up her own hairs so that "the other chicks"
wouldnt find out about her.
 
Well, one day we are going for coffee, and she asks me
if I had been seeing another chick at the time I started
dating her. Figuring (incorrectly) from her behavior,
that this chick knew totally what the score already was,
I said I had been (wrong answer!).
 
She freaked out and went balistic at me. Shit about "how
I make her fool, go behind her back..and other shit".
In retrospect it was clear though.. she got upset, because
something she merely 'suspected' (even though it was fucking
obvious as shit, as other chicks stuff was all over the
fucking house), now became something 'confirmed', and that
shattered her entire world..
 
I then smartened up and realized what I had just done,
and recovered by saying that I dumped her after I first
started dating you (Karatebabe), a few weeks later.
 
After that, she settled down (even though every week
there was different chick stuff all over the house
after that!). She asked me about it, and I said no,
there are no chicks..
 
She said she accepted that, and that her 'nightmare'
now was over, and everything was fine again.
 
Later she found some makeup and chick stuff in the
bathroom cabinet (another chick must have slipped
it there for someone else to find it), so I had
to think fast on my feet for that one...
 
So I told her that I have a real dark secret and
she might be very disappointed in me (now she is
expecting to hear something about a chick)..
 
Then (remembering she likes gays and stuff) I tell
her that I like to make believe to dress like a girl
(lots of J-guys do it actually, so I know it is not
so far fetched here), and I have guy friends that do it
with me, and sorry I didnt tell you earlier.. (of
course this is TOTALLY false.. Maniac is not even
remotely gay, nor a crossdresser or any of that shit)...
however.. she ACCEPTED that story, and was relieved
(in spite of the fact that I was almost cracking up
when I said it, since I was SURE she would call me
on my bullshit... but she didnt)!
 
Fuck!, the totally ridiculous things you have to
tell a chick...  AND! they accept it (as they
try to internalize it and believe it at least at
some level so that their happy delusional world
doesn't come crashing to bits)..
 
Strange, isnt it..!
 
Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » handling

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be
monogamous!   (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC)

From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be 
monogamous!
000428

I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
ago).

Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 

Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
would just walk away..

Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: 
Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 
minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). 
Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her 
good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate 
herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many 
chicks you see..

Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, 
as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and 
other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't 
have that now..

So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look 
at it, and then analyze it in "[]"  (below):

Ms. Kinky:,

[I left early last night because I was rather tired..]

>Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine 
made you 
>sick? Did I upset you?

No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, 
which was the question you asked last night..

Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to 
understand something we did talk about sometime ago 
already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited 
relationship right now. 

I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, 
I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when 
I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might 
be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody 
when I want.

[Maniac lays down the line.... again...]

It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very 
satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I 
want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such 
things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of 
speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it 
is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand 
that fact, and accept it.

[Yep, its special, and think about that!]

Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the 
fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that 
you are.
--

[Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a 
question!]

As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, 
when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or 
place. What if the answer had been yes? 

[Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such 
bullshit...]

Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I 
had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have 
had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying 
unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, 
(one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I 
really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. 

Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible 
consequences the next time when you raise such topics..

[Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...]

When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need 
to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. 
Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, 
and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I 
understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all 
ways). That is what I want to focus on.. 

Maniac

 =-=-=-=-=
That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to 
raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules 
are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her 
bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh 
yeah, right, sure she will..

And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to 
meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend..

The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a-
vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her 
already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more 
than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many 
chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where 
you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you 
for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, 
(heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the 
house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another 
chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make 
them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they 
may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". 

Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be 
firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate 
everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't 
help themselves, as their brains want your attention and 
approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win..

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From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000
From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Lines: 63

In article <6O_N4.7060Handling Alpha Male OG Intrusions!n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high"
 writes:

>I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
>during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
>wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
>seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
>answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
>ago).
>
>Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
>situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
>chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
>place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
>slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
>said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
>speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 
>
>Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
>really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
>would just walk away..

maniac :)

I read the rest of this.  the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS
angling for the monogamous relationship.  it is biological... just like it is
biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around
(well... before condoms that is)  that is why even though she KNEW the rules,
she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :)

in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR.  it is a
totally OPEN relationship.  she is the one that requested it and I agreed.  the
reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she
was going to get with me was to accept my freedom.  she was going to have to be
"MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she
would be unceremoniously EJECTED!  not because I don't like her... I just don't
operate like that anymore :)

for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to
believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her
that you CAN NOT get from another chick.  that doesn't happen to me because
girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me.  she can HEAR them
asking me to call them back.  she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she
has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone
like me.  as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as
far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport...
however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem
WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH".  I know THIS MUCH though... if she
decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is
INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her.

one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had
to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN
PULL BITCHES!  the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get
another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not
with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks.

besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you
WILL see other chicks if the op arises.  the question she asked you is
structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her...
she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING
MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has
to LIKE IT TOO!  >:)

Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare!

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! 
Date: 11/12/2000 
Author: maniac_high  

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies!
001112
 
Mystery wrote in another post this week regarding lying
to chicks, about how not to underestimate how delusional
a chick is willing to become in order to keep her 'happy'
view of the world.
 
He is absolutely right. And this explains how seeming
'jerk' can get away with what seems like such ridiculous
shit.
 
Case in point, is where I recently did a fuckup, and then
recovered with Karatebabe (see lay report, my page). This
is the chick that would go around my place after sex
cleaning up her own hairs so that "the other chicks"
wouldnt find out about her.
 
Well, one day we are going for coffee, and she asks me
if I had been seeing another chick at the time I started
dating her. Figuring (incorrectly) from her behavior,
that this chick knew totally what the score already was,
I said I had been (wrong answer!).
 
She freaked out and went balistic at me. Shit about "how
I make her fool, go behind her back..and other shit".
In retrospect it was clear though.. she got upset, because
something she merely 'suspected' (even though it was fucking
obvious as shit, as other chicks stuff was all over the
fucking house), now became something 'confirmed', and that
shattered her entire world..
 
I then smartened up and realized what I had just done,
and recovered by saying that I dumped her after I first
started dating you (Karatebabe), a few weeks later.
 
After that, she settled down (even though every week
there was different chick stuff all over the house
after that!). She asked me about it, and I said no,
there are no chicks..
 
She said she accepted that, and that her 'nightmare'
now was over, and everything was fine again.
 
Later she found some makeup and chick stuff in the
bathroom cabinet (another chick must have slipped
it there for someone else to find it), so I had
to think fast on my feet for that one...
 
So I told her that I have a real dark secret and
she might be very disappointed in me (now she is
expecting to hear something about a chick)..
 
Then (remembering she likes gays and stuff) I tell
her that I like to make believe to dress like a girl
(lots of J-guys do it actually, so I know it is not
so far fetched here), and I have guy friends that do it
with me, and sorry I didnt tell you earlier.. (of
course this is TOTALLY false.. Maniac is not even
remotely gay, nor a crossdresser or any of that shit)...
however.. she ACCEPTED that story, and was relieved
(in spite of the fact that I was almost cracking up
when I said it, since I was SURE she would call me
on my bullshit... but she didnt)!
 
Fuck!, the totally ridiculous things you have to
tell a chick...  AND! they accept it (as they
try to internalize it and believe it at least at
some level so that their happy delusional world
doesn't come crashing to bits)..
 
Strange, isnt it..!
 
Maniac High
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Handling Alpha Male OG Intrusions!

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be
monogamous!   (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC)

From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be 
monogamous!
000428

I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
ago).

Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 

Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
would just walk away..

Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: 
Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 
minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). 
Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her 
good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate 
herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many 
chicks you see..

Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, 
as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and 
other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't 
have that now..

So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look 
at it, and then analyze it in "[]"  (below):

Ms. Kinky:,

[I left early last night because I was rather tired..]

>Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine 
made you 
>sick? Did I upset you?

No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, 
which was the question you asked last night..

Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to 
understand something we did talk about sometime ago 
already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited 
relationship right now. 

I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, 
I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when 
I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might 
be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody 
when I want.

[Maniac lays down the line.... again...]

It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very 
satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I 
want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such 
things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of 
speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it 
is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand 
that fact, and accept it.

[Yep, its special, and think about that!]

Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the 
fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that 
you are.
--

[Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a 
question!]

As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, 
when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or 
place. What if the answer had been yes? 

[Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such 
bullshit...]

Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I 
had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have 
had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying 
unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, 
(one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I 
really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. 

Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible 
consequences the next time when you raise such topics..

[Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...]

When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need 
to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. 
Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, 
and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I 
understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all 
ways). That is what I want to focus on.. 

Maniac

 =-=-=-=-=
That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to 
raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules 
are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her 
bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh 
yeah, right, sure she will..

And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to 
meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend..

The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a-
vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her 
already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more 
than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many 
chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where 
you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you 
for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, 
(heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the 
house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another 
chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make 
them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they 
may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". 

Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be 
firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate 
everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't 
help themselves, as their brains want your attention and 
approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win..

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From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
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In article <6O_N4.7060Buy Cialis No Prescriptionn5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high"
 writes:

>I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
>during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
>wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
>seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
>answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
>ago).
>
>Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
>situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
>chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
>place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
>slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
>said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
>speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 
>
>Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
>really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
>would just walk away..

maniac :)

I read the rest of this.  the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS
angling for the monogamous relationship.  it is biological... just like it is
biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around
(well... before condoms that is)  that is why even though she KNEW the rules,
she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :)

in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR.  it is a
totally OPEN relationship.  she is the one that requested it and I agreed.  the
reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she
was going to get with me was to accept my freedom.  she was going to have to be
"MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she
would be unceremoniously EJECTED!  not because I don't like her... I just don't
operate like that anymore :)

for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to
believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her
that you CAN NOT get from another chick.  that doesn't happen to me because
girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me.  she can HEAR them
asking me to call them back.  she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she
has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone
like me.  as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as
far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport...
however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem
WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH".  I know THIS MUCH though... if she
decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is
INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her.

one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had
to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN
PULL BITCHES!  the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get
another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not
with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks.

besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you
WILL see other chicks if the op arises.  the question she asked you is
structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her...
she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING
MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has
to LIKE IT TOO!  >:)

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! 
Date: 11/12/2000 
Author: maniac_high  

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies!
001112
 
Mystery wrote in another post this week regarding lying
to chicks, about how not to underestimate how delusional
a chick is willing to become in order to keep her 'happy'
view of the world.
 
He is absolutely right. And this explains how seeming
'jerk' can get away with what seems like such ridiculous
shit.
 
Case in point, is where I recently did a fuckup, and then
recovered with Karatebabe (see lay report, my page). This
is the chick that would go around my place after sex
cleaning up her own hairs so that "the other chicks"
wouldnt find out about her.
 
Well, one day we are going for coffee, and she asks me
if I had been seeing another chick at the time I started
dating her. Figuring (incorrectly) from her behavior,
that this chick knew totally what the score already was,
I said I had been (wrong answer!).
 
She freaked out and went balistic at me. Shit about "how
I make her fool, go behind her back..and other shit".
In retrospect it was clear though.. she got upset, because
something she merely 'suspected' (even though it was fucking
obvious as shit, as other chicks stuff was all over the
fucking house), now became something 'confirmed', and that
shattered her entire world..
 
I then smartened up and realized what I had just done,
and recovered by saying that I dumped her after I first
started dating you (Karatebabe), a few weeks later.
 
After that, she settled down (even though every week
there was different chick stuff all over the house
after that!). She asked me about it, and I said no,
there are no chicks..
 
She said she accepted that, and that her 'nightmare'
now was over, and everything was fine again.
 
Later she found some makeup and chick stuff in the
bathroom cabinet (another chick must have slipped
it there for someone else to find it), so I had
to think fast on my feet for that one...
 
So I told her that I have a real dark secret and
she might be very disappointed in me (now she is
expecting to hear something about a chick)..
 
Then (remembering she likes gays and stuff) I tell
her that I like to make believe to dress like a girl
(lots of J-guys do it actually, so I know it is not
so far fetched here), and I have guy friends that do it
with me, and sorry I didnt tell you earlier.. (of
course this is TOTALLY false.. Maniac is not even
remotely gay, nor a crossdresser or any of that shit)...
however.. she ACCEPTED that story, and was relieved
(in spite of the fact that I was almost cracking up
when I said it, since I was SURE she would call me
on my bullshit... but she didnt)!
 
Fuck!, the totally ridiculous things you have to
tell a chick...  AND! they accept it (as they
try to internalize it and believe it at least at
some level so that their happy delusional world
doesn't come crashing to bits)..
 
Strange, isnt it..!
 
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Handling Alpha Male OG Intrusions!

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be
monogamous!   (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC)

From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be 
monogamous!
000428

I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
ago).

Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 

Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
would just walk away..

Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: 
Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 
minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). 
Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her 
good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate 
herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many 
chicks you see..

Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, 
as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and 
other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't 
have that now..

So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look 
at it, and then analyze it in "[]"  (below):

Ms. Kinky:,

[I left early last night because I was rather tired..]

>Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine 
made you 
>sick? Did I upset you?

No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, 
which was the question you asked last night..

Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to 
understand something we did talk about sometime ago 
already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited 
relationship right now. 

I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, 
I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when 
I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might 
be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody 
when I want.

[Maniac lays down the line.... again...]

It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very 
satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I 
want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such 
things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of 
speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it 
is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand 
that fact, and accept it.

[Yep, its special, and think about that!]

Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the 
fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that 
you are.
--

[Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a 
question!]

As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, 
when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or 
place. What if the answer had been yes? 

[Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such 
bullshit...]

Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I 
had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have 
had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying 
unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, 
(one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I 
really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. 

Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible 
consequences the next time when you raise such topics..

[Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...]

When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need 
to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. 
Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, 
and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I 
understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all 
ways). That is what I want to focus on.. 

Maniac

 =-=-=-=-=
That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to 
raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules 
are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her 
bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh 
yeah, right, sure she will..

And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to 
meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend..

The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a-
vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her 
already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more 
than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many 
chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where 
you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you 
for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, 
(heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the 
house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another 
chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make 
them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they 
may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". 

Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be 
firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate 
everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't 
help themselves, as their brains want your attention and 
approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win..

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From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000
From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit!  Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous!
Lines: 63

In article <6O_N4.7060Tonguing down Cheatchick – Handling a chick with a boyfriendn5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high"
 writes:

>I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and 
>during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how 
>wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you 
>seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the 
>answer, since I already explained the rules several months 
>ago).
>
>Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate 
>situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such 
>chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public 
>place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that 
>slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I 
>said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly 
>speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). 
>
>Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or 
>really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she 
>would just walk away..

maniac :)

I read the rest of this.  the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS
angling for the monogamous relationship.  it is biological... just like it is
biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around
(well... before condoms that is)  that is why even though she KNEW the rules,
she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :)

in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR.  it is a
totally OPEN relationship.  she is the one that requested it and I agreed.  the
reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she
was going to get with me was to accept my freedom.  she was going to have to be
"MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she
would be unceremoniously EJECTED!  not because I don't like her... I just don't
operate like that anymore :)

for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to
believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her
that you CAN NOT get from another chick.  that doesn't happen to me because
girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me.  she can HEAR them
asking me to call them back.  she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she
has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone
like me.  as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as
far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport...
however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem
WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH".  I know THIS MUCH though... if she
decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is
INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her.

one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had
to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN
PULL BITCHES!  the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get
another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not
with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks.

besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you
WILL see other chicks if the op arises.  the question she asked you is
structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her...
she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING
MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has
to LIKE IT TOO!  >:)

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! 
Date: 11/12/2000 
Author: maniac_high  

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Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies!
001112
 
Mystery wrote in another post this week regarding lying
to chicks, about how not to underestimate how delusional
a chick is willing to become in order to keep her 'happy'
view of the world.
 
He is absolutely right. And this explains how seeming
'jerk' can get away with what seems like such ridiculous
shit.
 
Case in point, is where I recently did a fuckup, and then
recovered with Karatebabe (see lay report, my page). This
is the chick that would go around my place after sex
cleaning up her own hairs so that "the other chicks"
wouldnt find out about her.
 
Well, one day we are going for coffee, and she asks me
if I had been seeing another chick at the time I started
dating her. Figuring (incorrectly) from her behavior,
that this chick knew totally what the score already was,
I said I had been (wrong answer!).
 
She freaked out and went balistic at me. Shit about "how
I make her fool, go behind her back..and other shit".
In retrospect it was clear though.. she got upset, because
something she merely 'suspected' (even though it was fucking
obvious as shit, as other chicks stuff was all over the
fucking house), now became something 'confirmed', and that
shattered her entire world..
 
I then smartened up and realized what I had just done,
and recovered by saying that I dumped her after I first
started dating you (Karatebabe), a few weeks later.
 
After that, she settled down (even though every week
there was different chick stuff all over the house
after that!). She asked me about it, and I said no,
there are no chicks..
 
She said she accepted that, and that her 'nightmare'
now was over, and everything was fine again.
 
Later she found some makeup and chick stuff in the
bathroom cabinet (another chick must have slipped
it there for someone else to find it), so I had
to think fast on my feet for that one...
 
So I told her that I have a real dark secret and
she might be very disappointed in me (now she is
expecting to hear something about a chick)..
 
Then (remembering she likes gays and stuff) I tell
her that I like to make believe to dress like a girl
(lots of J-guys do it actually, so I know it is not
so far fetched here), and I have guy friends that do it
with me, and sorry I didnt tell you earlier.. (of
course this is TOTALLY false.. Maniac is not even
remotely gay, nor a crossdresser or any of that shit)...
however.. she ACCEPTED that story, and was relieved
(in spite of the fact that I was almost cracking up
when I said it, since I was SURE she would call me
on my bullshit... but she didnt)!
 
Fuck!, the totally ridiculous things you have to
tell a chick...  AND! they accept it (as they
try to internalize it and believe it at least at
some level so that their happy delusional world
doesn't come crashing to bits)..
 
Strange, isnt it..!
 
Maniac High
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Handling Alpha Male OG Intrusions!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website

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Handling "Alpha Male Other Guy" intrustions!

From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:09:02 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:18 GMT

In article ,
  "thx"  wrote:
>....
> > Then she smiles, introduces herself to me, offers her hand and that
very
> moment this guy sits next to her. Asks her if the seat is available,
says
> something funny (I didn't hear what but she laughed), pays zero
attention to
> me and now she sort of turns to him. I couldn't hear what they were
talking
> but after the class she says to me "See ya!" and goes with this guy
to a
> cafe accross the street.
>
> Now what was that all about? I saw them walking together today holding
> hands. I was with that 9.5 social-proof chick and managed a "Hi" and a
> halfhearted smile.
>
> Now how to handle this kind of thing? >

I can offer three proven tactics to counter Alpha Male Other Guy (AMOG)
intrusions:

Typical Situation One: your above "I was working her and this AMOG
moves in"

Solution:  As soon as the AMOG inserts himself, and, she pays attention
to him, do the following:

Smile at the AMOG and say "hold on a sec OK". Touch her shoulder and
turn your body so that you?re between her and the AMOG. Then, lean
forward and whisper in her ear:  "I don?t want to share your attention
with anyone else.   Let?s continue this some other time"  She?ll either
respond positively or not.  If negative, smile at her and say, "he?s
all yours".  If positive get the #, smile, and say "I?ve got to run but
I will see you again" Use a strong hand pointing gesture when you say
the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor and also asserts your
dominance over her vis a vi the AMOG.

TIP:  it?s fucking vital in these situations to always whisper in the
chycks ear.   Why?   Do you remember from elementary and middle school
how the chycks were always whispering in each other?s ears?   They love
it!   It creates an instant atmosphere of intimacy and "specialness".
Plus, tactically, you want to keep the AMOG shut out and guessing.  I
call this the "whisper close".

Two other typical AMOG competitive situations and how to deal with them:

Typical Situation Two:  You?re sitting at the bar with two chycks at
adjoining bar stools and you?re working them.

Solution:  If it?s two chycks that you started chatting up at the bar
with you and them sitting on the adjoining bar chairs, always move so
that you?re  positioned between the two chycks.  This means that any
AMOG has to choose one or the other to approach.

IF the situation is that you?ve been chatting up two chycks and some
AMOG comes along and exploits your mistake and inserts himself between
the two chycks before you can position yourself between them (as
happened to me very recently), here?s what I did:

I touched the chyck (whose back by then was to me " don?t you just hate
that) nearest to me on her shoulder and whispered in her ear:  "I?ll
bet you that he propositions you and your friend to a threesome".

If she?s like this chyck, she?ll immediately turn to face you with a
laugh and and a "How much do you want to bet kind of reaction".   I
said, "Since I won?t be here to verify the bet, let?s just make it
buck.  That way, it won?t be the amount, it?ll be whether I was
right or you were right. I'll trust your honesty!"  (I had already
closed and was going to meet her the next night at this bar where the
other woman was bartending).  I left by saying "I gotta run but I?ll
see you both in Ridgefield (a nearby town where the other woman
bartended)".

Typical Situation Three:   You?ve been chatting up some chyck and you
have leave for moment (maybe to hit the men?s room) and when you
return, there?s this AMOG that?s moved in

Solution:    Approach from the AMOG?s blind side and visually get her
attention from a slight distance away, from  behind him.   A sharp
"Yeo!" and a finger point at her should do very nicely to get her
attention.  From there, your alternatives are:

If you didn?t already do the close (shmuck! it?s almost never too early
to do a trial close), then move in per Situation One above and do a
whisper close.

If you already had gotten the close (attaboy for that), then say "Gotta
run. See you like we planned".  Use a strong hand pointing gesture when
you say the "See you" so that it places a verbal anchor.

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From old__dog@my-deja.com Fri Jan 28 20:13:09 2000
From: old__dog@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Tough competition
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:24:20 GMT

In article <_ldk4.2022$Sa2.82547@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  "bigbry"  wrote:
> >
> Now as far as strategy goes: I like old dog's whisper technique but I
would
> have immediately started to illiminate the compitition very
ambiguously. The
> guy sits down and laphs at my jokes I would look at him like where
the hell
> did you just come from and then look at her like he doesn't even
really
> belong with us. Then I'd say, "You ever meet someone who really
annoys you?"
> to her. Then I'd go into the wisper technique.
>
> My guess is that women love, absolutely love men fighting over them.
This
> girl was getting all this attention from the both of you but he was
the one
> who closed on her first.
>
> Remember this rule and you won't run into a problem like this again:
Close
> early and close often. The sooner you create that emotional closeness
with
> her close. Shit you might as well just close as soon as the guy sits
down
> with you guys.
>
>
>
> It seems like BigBry and certainly Mud have missed the whole
strategy focus.  Let me help you connect the dots.

The strategy is based on two key elements:

1) use body action, kino and the whisper move
to physically and mentally isolate the chyck from the AMOG.

2) Put the onus on the CHYCK to make her choice:  you can have my
attention or his but not both.  Remember from my previous post that
the conditions are the AMOG's intruded and she's paying attention to
him.  That's why I tell you to use the "I don't want to share your
attention with anyone" as your LEAD whisper assertion.  Then, the image
that you're establishing is that you're wise to her and you're not
going allow her to put you in the position of competiting with the AMOG
for her attention.

That's the IDEAL strategic position for HER and the WORST strategic
position for YOU.

I know there's a natural male impulse to confront the AMOG.  Resist it.
It's a loser since it sets you up to be manipulated by the chyck and is
a major waste of your valuable time.  Besides which, what are the
possible outcomes?  The guy may be good; you don't know.  Then you're
the one who looks lame.  The most likely outcome is that
you make each other look lame and she blows you both off but not until
she's throughly amused herself and gotten all of the ego gratification
that she can extract from you both.  But hey try both ways - see which
works better for u.

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Tonguing down Cheatchick – Handling a chick with a boyfriend

Maniac High — Sun, 19 Sep 1999 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

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Story about how to get past chick's boyfriends!


From maniac_high@pickupguide.com Sun Sep 19 10:01:08 1999
From: "maniac_high" 
Subject: Outing report! Tonguing and feeling up Cheat Chick!
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Status: O

Outing report! Tonguing and feeling up Cheat Chick!
990919

Hi all,

Tonight another (short) outing report. Taro san is now back 
from Paris, so it was a night out to refine some techniques after 
some recent fuckups. Opinions welcome as usual!

The goal tonight, was to practice groundwork, as NYC 
mentionned after my Ms. Tubby fuckup. That means, meeting 
chicks, tonguing them down, feeling them up, and getting kino 
BEFORE trying to take them home and doing kiss close 
attempts as well as phone number closes. We succeed with this
with the first chicks we try it on.. Here we go.. 

Taro-san and I get in the bar, and we see two chicks sitting 
down, he makes the opener, by asking for a smoke, she gives it 
to him, and he asks her if we can sit down, she says yes, we do. 
His chick is a 8.5, mine's a 7.5. Good practice chicks. We 
briefed before, and we decided that we will try to kiss close 
these chicks.

Taro is good at getting the laughs come out of his chick, but 
mine (Cheat chick) is shy. She is trying though. She says she 
wants to go to France one day. I tell her that in France they do 
`bec', which is kiss on the cheek when you greet someone. 
Then I demonstrate it on her, and also kiss her hand, jokingly. 
That works. We talk for about 15 minutes, then we decide to 
take them to the dance floor. 

I find out that my chick may be shy with words, but she is easy 
to let me touch her.  I get kino with her fairly easily (not much 
resistance, but she is laughing a lot now. I gesture another 
`bec', and she does it, and I dance closer to her. Taro is doing 
the same with his chick. I do some Mr. Smooth style dance 
techniques (get the girls together..with Taro san..etc), and 
dance more with my girl. I gesture another few "bec"s and get 
them, then I tell her I want a "real one". Cheat chick doesn't 
understand my sentence, so I just show her. Then she tells me 
she has a BF (no problem, a little later, she totally betrays him 
;-) ). I tell her "I dont mind", and then kiss her again, very 
short one. 

We get the chicks off the dance floor to a corner where I can 
go at her.There we get phone numbers, no problem. Now we 
go for the kiss close. Taro starts to kiss his chick, (he just said, 
lets kiss, and then started), and I say to my chick, looks nice, 
lets do that, and I go in. I get some resistance about BF.  I try 
to kiss her again, just I say "one more". This time, she stays on 
a few seconds. I tell her she is a very good kisser, I want some 
more, and we start extended kissing. Resistance collapses and I 
am in there (took 20 seconds only before she forgot the BF..).

I wander my hands around, her ears, back, her ass, and she 
spreads her legs a little bit, and I get my leg in and start 
rubbing her cunt through her pants with my leg in the proper 
motion as I kiss her continually on the ears, neck, lips..etc. We 
are still in the bar. My hands wander to her tits, no resistance, 
and now I am fondling her tits, cunt through her clothes, and 
she is getting all hot & horny as I do this, and tongue her all 
over her neck, lips, ears.. Continue for about 15 minutes. 

Taro, is having less success with his (kissing, no serious kino 
though). I am trying to stall, keeping my chick busy, so that he 
can catch up, so we can take them home. He is not having luck 
though, so I make the pitch to mine, to come over to my place. 
She looks ready to go, thinks about it, looks uncertain. So I got 
at her again, a few more minutes with all the kino. This 
happens two or three more times, and then she seems to decide 
she wants to go. Then she asks her friend (Taro's chick), and 
she talks her out of it.

I persist, but its not working. Her friend is obstacling, and 
Taro is trying what he can to get her excited too or otherwise
out of the way. Doesn't work though.. Only a 7.5, (ie. throwaway)
no problem,so we keep the numbers, and move on to other chicks..

Okay, Some lessons from this. First, from now on, all closes 
will attempt to be kiss closes like this one. Had I done this to 
Ms. Tubby last week, I could have fucked her instantly the next
time I saw her, I am sure..

Thanks NYC for this tip, this problem SOLVED and will not 
happen again.

Other lesson. If something doesn't work, switch approaches 
before giving up. Cheat chick was not a talker at all, totally a 
kino chick. She was boring as fuck at the table and I was ready 
to give up, and was staying in just for Taro to progress with his 
chick. BUT, then we went to the dance floor, and she totally lit up, 
and I could make FAST progress with Cheat chick right up to 
practically fucking her in her clothes in the corner of the bar. 

From now on, I will always try this before giving up on a chick 
Status: O

and moving on.. Excellent night out...learned alot!

Maniac High
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