http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. 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Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around $150) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd$1@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c$1@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/fitting-your-approach-to-the-type-of-chick/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Fitting your approach to the type of chick. Rush talks about RJ chicks (relationship) -vs- Mr. Smooth (fuck) chicks! From rush274@aol.com Fri Apr 7 04:55:59 2000 From: rush274@aol.com (Rush274) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: A letter to Maniac High This is a letter I wrote to Maniac High a couple of weeks agothat he asked me to post here. It's in its entirity. Hi Maniac, I love your website; it has given me quite a few great pointers, but there's one thing I want to elaborate on. Basically, I've found that where you usually get into trouble is when you pick up a girl Mr. Smooth style, and then switch to a lovey-dovey romantic style on the date itself. I've found that there are two kinds of chicks, the Mr. Smooth type, and the Ross Jeffries seduction type. I'm not saying they don't cross over in many places, but whenever you pick up a girl with that aggressive, "my shit don't stink", Mr. Smooth method, it's a good idea to stick in that mode on the date. For example, watch Raging Bull and notice how Robert DeNiro gets Cathy Moriarty to fuck him. It looks unreal on film, but it works like that in real life. What this means is that on the date, Speed Seduction goes out the window. The hardcore Alpha male does not talk about passions in life, what their first kiss was like, while looking deep into the girl's eyes, and holding her hand or giving her a massage. Granted, the SS method works on most chicks, but usually not the kind you meet in Clubs. Remember when you were in high school or college; there was that guy who was always banging come fine-ass chick; he was usually a football player, or other aggressive type. He had no idea about Ross Jeffries, but he could score like the best SS'er. There is no blueprint map like SS for this, so it takes a lot of practice to get it down. Basically, you need to be very blunt, say some really wild and crazy shit, put her in a few awkward positions, and I garauntee she will get wrapped up in the game. The most important this is that you give off that ultra-confident attitude, and she will follow you anywhere. You don't have to ask for anything, nor word anything in one of those funny, setting up challenges/structuring oppurtunities sort of way. You just tell her bluntly what to do. Think about all those times you've tried to get a girl's number subtley, and then just brought out your pen and paper and said "give me your number". I'm not saying you should do this with all girls, most won't go for it, but the super-fine, outgoing, and uninhibited types of girls you meet at clubs will. This kind of girl really wants a guy that she will respect, and follow. Trust me, she has already been out the hundreds of guys, and has already met guys that pull off SS, whether or not they knew what they were doing. So, it's better to have two approaches in your repetoir: SS style, and an ultra-confident style. You will have far more success when you master both, and learn when and where to use them. Oh yeah, one more thing. I just wanted to comment on Ms. Sparkles. You did many of the right things...I mean, laying on the SS like that usually will get the chick, despite the fact that you did make a few minor mistakes that have already been pointed out. Just remember that when a girl is truly in love with her boyfriend, and he provides her with everything she wants in a guy, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that will change her mind about him. That is, of course, if she's not just telling herself that, but really has that truly deep feeling for him that totally captures her imagination. -Rush274]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/about-girls-who-want-to-fuck-versus-wanting-a-relationship/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Mystery and others write about successful openers! From: "Mystery" <mystery@idirect.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,Alt.psychology.nlp,alt.hypnosis References: <37602334.55753831@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Chat suggestions Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:58:12 -0700 Lines: 63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Message-ID: <37676655@nemo.idirect.com> X-Trace: 16 Jun 1999 04:54:45 -0400, ts7-36t-14.idirect.com Organization: via Internet Direct Status: O talk about esp and its impossibility talk about how you met a bear while hiking talk about how you were scared shitless rock climbing when your rope snapped or the time you visited your friends friend with him and your buddy was almost beaten to death when the friend he visited had a boyfriend who came out and there was a 20 minute car chase through lights and you were looking for the cops but lot the crazed boyfriend before you found cops. or the time you were in the hospital and it changed the way food tastes. the birds sound clearer now. or the time you netbused (hacked) into a bank but chickened out and put the money into a charity or talk about the famous person you met does she believe in ghosts? why? you like candles and incense. what does SHE like? the music game modified for all types of objects. play the question game with her or hotseat (like question game but more brutal) talk about the time you bladed down a steep hill and survived. talk about the time you were on stage ... mystery ----- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Wed Apr 12 07:31:37 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: After the # close On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:26:22 GMT, Rio <riobaan@hotmail.com> wrote: | I was reading elsewhere on a post, that if you instruct her to sound | cheerful on the phone when you call when you do a # close. I tried that, it's not a magic bullet. But it's fun. I now always write some shit along with my phone #: something like "DO NOT FALL IN LOVE" or "NO STALKING PLEASE". They find it very funny and show it to their friends, plus they remember. | If you did any anchoring on your voice when you met, now's the time to | unleash them. ---- From slidewguy@remove-aol.com Wed Apr 12 07:47:28 2000 From: "whoisthis19" <slidewguy@remove-aol.com> Subject: Some closes Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Hand her the slip of paper and pen and have her write down her number. When she's hands it back, ask her to put it someplace so you will remeber to call her. Last time I did this she put it down my pants and grabbed my cock. Ask a gal to trade shirts. When she balks, keep pressing in a joking manner then finally ask to her to go outside to trade shirts. Nothing better then getting her outside. Another one is simply saying its too smokey, noisy, smelly in here. Lets go outsde for some air. Any of you guys got ways of getting chicks to leave with you outside the club? greg1 Did you sleep with yourself or... did you turn yourself down because you was too easy.]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/doing-successful-openers/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com A cool way to open a chick up to kissing! [Maniac ed. Note, after getting her to do this a couple times, tell her "a real one this time.." and go for the tongue down!] Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:31:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.37.154 X-Trace: typhoon1.gnilink.net 954804715 141.156.37.154 (Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:31:55 EDT Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:78925 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) "Kiss It" (Point to one cheek) "Kiss It" (Point to the other cheek) "One more time" (Point to your lips) I've had more success with Craig's "kiss the cheek" method in clubs and parties than any other! It's the Ultimate Kino Trick in my opinion. It's just too easy... Right after you get her really laughing or Smiling GO FOR THE KISS ON THE CHEEK. Point to one of your cheeks and say "Kiss It"! I swear there's like a 99% chance that she will. You never get denied if you pull it right after a funny smart ass comment. The funny thing is.... once she's kissed you on the cheek once. She'll never deny you another. Every so often just playfully demand another kiss on the cheek. It's just too much fun. Last Saturday I went bowling with 5 girls and after my first strike I playfully high-fived everyone and then made all the girls give me a kiss on the cheek. I then did this EVERYTIME I got a spare or a strike... it just kept getting funner and funner... They were all getting into it.... and then eventually I started making out with one of the Cuties inbetween frames. Pure Genius I tell you. With Love, DC Guy From vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:17:53 2000 X-Originating-Host: 216.244.24.144 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 26 From: Craig <vassago3NOvaSPAM@mailcity.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Im always glad to be of service! Im usually a bit sneaker and turn my head during the second cheek kiss...Then I say..."Well now you might as well give me a real one!" It seems like you and I have very similar styles, so do me a favor...Try out other favorite Kiss close. It takes bigger balls but its pretty damn funny. Bullshit with her for a few minutes and then say "So...You wanna to make out?" Say it with a straight face and have a little excitement in your voice! She will probably say on eof three things. "Here?" Counter with, "No I figure we could walk somewhere a little more romantic!" "I dont know" and you say, "Lets find out! kiss "Right now?" And you say, "No way! In five minutes!" Then come back in five minutes, show her your watch, then silently take her hand and lead her to a bedroom (or couch if your in a club)! Of course this is field tested. I recommend it and use it. If she says anything other than a flat out NO then you're in. Report back! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ---- From danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid Tue Apr 4 08:18:43 2000 X-Originating-Host: 63.28.31.230 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Craig is a Genius!!! Lines: 20 From: Danielson <danieljludwigNOdaSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast I used the kiss my cheek method on a chic that I was talking to on the phone, and never met before, when she finally met me at a casino. This was two weeks ago. I made all sorts of games out of it. If we see an old lady at a slot machine (every 2 seconds) you have to kiss me. If we see someone win you have to kiss me. If she wanted a chip I would hold it out and when she reached for it I pulled it back and pointed to my cheek (and eventually mouth). And they WERE HER CHIPS!! She loved it and was giggling every time. This led to tongue down in a hallway (until security came and broke it up) and eventually a lay in her hotel room that she paid for. (I am so cheap...I only brought and spent 5 bucks the whole night!!!). I used it to warm her up to me at the start and just kept it going. It caused us to be completely comfortable around each other despite having just met. A great method, I agree. I-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi. Fo-cus Dan-iel-son * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/gimmick-to-get-chick-to-kiss-in-a-club/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com The 'tickle' transition to sex! From: "yaritai" <yaritai@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Identyfing Her Desires 1 (Making Your First Move Easy) - The Tickle Fight Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:21:32 +0900 Tickle fights: In my experience, the tickle fight is a situation where there is implied permission/desire for you to make a move. If she just giggles and moves away and basically refuses to get into it, then there's a possibility that she's not interested, but NOT NECESSARILY! If that happens, you'll have to do other things to find out. But if she turns around and starts tickling you back, then she most definitely wants you! Girl tickles you back (more than just a poke) => The girl is definitely interested in you. Girl doesn't tickle you back => The girl may or may not want you. Do NOT make the mistake of reversing this. For example, the following logic is WRONG: Girl is interested => She will tickle you. (No, she may not.) And never assume: Girl doesn't tickle back => She's not interested. (It's only possible.) Just remember that if she gets into a tickle fight, she DOES want you. Forget the rest. She is ready to be physical with you. Now, how do you go from tickle to kiss? Easy as hell!!! Ha ha ha. I now laugh (in a very sad kind of ironic way) at just how stupid I was in the past. If you can in any way at all get into a tickle fight near a bed or large carpeted area, do so. Tickle her a bit. If she's ticklish, she'll laugh and grab her sides a bit. (If she's not ticklish, she may not react at all. Keep trying for a bit, but if she still doesn't react, it's no fun and won't work, so stop or tease her about being "insensitive".) Continue unless you get a very bad reaction. If you try a few times and she continues to retreat, stop and try later, or try something else. Most likely, she will start tickling back and it'll escalate into a full fledged tickle-fight. This is exactly what you want to happen. Not only that, but she has now, without using any words, ASKED you to kiss her!!! Let her tickle you back a bit, tickle her, etc. and do this for a little while. Then, after a short while, you reach your arms around her and hold her hands and arms with one hand, and you tickle her with the other. Congratulations, you are now hugging her. Not only that, but she is laughing and loving every minute of it. Can you say "anchor"? ;-) Now, this is where you need a bed (if at all possible) or carpeted floor. After a bit of this, if you really get her tickled, her knees will buckle, and she will fall to the floor. (Don't let go, you caveman!) Gently fall with her and lower her to the floor and relent just a little. Give her some space and time to recover a bit and catch her breath. (If she doesn't fall to the floor/bed, see below for.) Now, the moment of truth. If she comes back at you in any way whatsoever, you grab her, throw her down on the bed or floor (gently, of course), but while she's on her back, you then climb aboard and hold her wrists down. If, at this point, she's still smiling and enjoying the fight, you are so in, it 's not funny. If she loses the smile then, I don't know. (It's never happened to me). If you're lucky, she'll reach up with her feet to get your head. This means you have to bring your head all the way down, almost to the point where you are kissing her. Don't kiss her yet though. Let the sexual tension build, a LITTLE. Tease her. Blow in her face a bit. Hold both hands with one, and tickle very lightly with the other. Stick your finger in her ear. Rub her nose with yours. Here, you can even kiss her on the cheek, in a playful/non-sexual way. It doesn't matter! Act 10 years old. Laugh. Tell her she's sooooooo cute when she's helpless. It's fun! Just be playful, and do NOT hurt her. The point is to make her feel good, while increasing frustration and sexual tension. Then, after a bit of this, change your expression to a more sexual, serious one, (she'll probably do the same), gaze into her eyes and bring your face close to hers. Then, kiss her. She gave you permission 20 minutes ago! This, my friends, is pure magic. Hasn't failed me yet. Comments/opinions? yaritai]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/the-tickle-transition-to-sex/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac PU's and lays a careerwoman! Subject: Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! Date: 12/23/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Lay report! Psychic babe lives (fucks!) her future! 001223 This story is a followup on that chick, Psychicbabe, I met in London a few months ago on a business trip I had there. (Psychicbabe believe in ESP, ghosts and shit like that). As well, this report also shows that the things I practice in Japan, work as well elsewhere too (in this case, with London chicks). I met her at a professional conference I was attending there, and she happened to be in Tokyo this week on business (and addtional business which I was happy to give her ;-) ). See the ASF post (also on my website come 1/12/2001) about how I met psychicbabe, and what happened in London with her so far. Psychicbabe is a very bright, good looking young lady working in a high paid professional business job, age early 30s, and very sexy body. I rate her a 7.5 (works too much, her face looks stressed out, but good body). She is extremely intelligent, and very diligent, a true career woman. Alot like Ms. Kinky in many respects actually except that Physicbabe isnt as kinky I think (so far, but we'll see!). The lesson I learned in this lay report, is how to recognize a chick that is gagging for it, her cues on what to do, and how to not fuck up what was basically, a 'given' situation. Lets look at what I did, what happened, and what I learned from it.. Firstly, the ManiacPlan was almost done then (1st half) and I had already done steps BVGAD with her before leaving back to home in Tokyo (see website for ManiacPlan). Then I kept in touch with her over email, sending a short note every couple days until she got here (I knew she was planning to come her in December). I finished step 'D' in email (age regression/5 years future), and the strawberry game (I asked her 1 question each day), and the cube (also 1 question each day). She likes cooking, so that is good. When setting up the meeting, she says she wants to cook, (she really likes cooking) and suggests to come to my place to cook supper. That alone, tells me there is a good chance that this chick is dying for a fuck, and is waiting for me to take the hint. Now a complication, is that HB Ass is staying at my place over the holidays, so I cannot invite her over to my place as I usually would for chicks. This is really a problem. Now, Psychicbabe already knows I have a GF (I told her that in London as part of the experiment in social proof I was running, and she told me she had a BF too). That didn't stop her from holding hands though. I tell her that we will go look at the Christmas decorations set up in Ebizu (classy part of Tokyo, nice shopping and hotel area there), and go to supper (I usually dont go for suppers, but my feelings were telling me that this chick had already accepted to fuck, and this was the next best thing to coming to my place, which she had already asked for). I meet Psychicbabe in Ebizu, and we immediately hold hands hands, and she is physically very close to me. Good sign.. We decide to go for a walk (my goals now are to do a K.C. since I didn't get a really good one in London (I did the PU, but I dont know London, so couldnt take her to good places where I could do this easily, and then go on from there). While walking around the Christmas decoration area outside, she tells me she broke up with her BF 2 days ago (she says she got dumped for another girl). (Maniac says maybe..maybe not.. anyways, it is a hint, that this chick is GAME ON). Kino is still very good. I ask her how she feels, and she says that she is comfortable. I tell her how it is nice that we can feel so relaxed when we are around each other. She agrees (chick is still game on). I tell her that my personal life is also a mess ;-) She questions about it, and I tell her that as I told her in London, I have a GF, an ordinary OL (this is HB ass, who is staying with me now). I ask her how she feels about that. She says she is indifferent about that and it doesnt matter, she isnt expecting anything right now, and neither should I (good move, chick is playing this properly as a team sport). And not only that (here is a key point I learned!), that if I said that I didn't have a GF, she would be worried that something is strange about me, because she expects a guy as good as me HAS to have a GF. We sign up for dinner (long waits at the restaurants, Christmas weekend), and she offers to pay everything. That is also a 'game on' sign. We go to a bar and hang out. She is jetlagged and sleeps on my on the couch for 15 minutes, while I feel up her legs and chest and hug her. That is good, this chick is sexually motivated. She then wonders/asks me what should we do until the reservation in an hour. (she asks me this often, she knows I live not too far, and is hinting at coming to my place, which I cannot do, HB ass is there). She then asks if I can teach her something about dance, and where we should go (HB orange asked me the exact same question as the hint to go to my place to fuck). But I cannot take her.. I need to tell her about my situation right now with HB ass.. I will do that as the next thing.. We leave the bar and head to the restaurant at reservation time, and I again remark how it is funny we seem to know eahc other a long time, though it is only the second time we meet. It is dark here, and she is bit shaking from the cold and walking. I stop here, and say 'you are cold' and give her a deep hug. Then I look into her eye, and say, Merry Chistmas, hold her chin, and give her a kiss. This becomes a french tonguedown right away lasting a while. That is good, so now I am sure this chick is serious, and is not just a faker like HB Geek was. We continue to the restaurant, each French food and drink lots of Champange. I tell her the situation with HB Ass at my place. She says she doesn't care, just that she likes me because I would email her every few days, and her BF wouldnt even do that. Then while eating and drinking, she remarks she is getting a bit drunk, and I will 'have to go back to the hotel with her to make sure she gets there OK'. She is staying in a big hotel area not far from Ebizu. We finish supper, and then she says 'you dont have to take me, I am ok'. I say that I will take her. She says 'thank you' gently, and we kiss some more. I probably kissed her like 10 or 15 times in the restaurant. Among things she says in the restaurant is that she was feeling very stressful before, but is really calm and relaxed around me now. I ask her if she likes me, and she says 'yes, you are my type'. Another very good sign. She pays the bill (around 0) and we go to the taxi. While in the Taxi, I feel her up a bit more (lightly) on the legs/body while holding her hand with my other hand. She is really sleepy, and is lying against the door in the taxi on the way, while I feel her up. Now I realize I have a problem, because this chick is taking me back to her place obviously to fuck her, but I didn't expect this (she told me that she was staying at another hotel 1.5 hours away from Tokyo, but it turns out she changed hotels to the closer one (probably in case I didn't take her to my place, she could invite me to hers so that I could fuck her). The problem is that I dont have any condoms, I wasn't expecting this at all. Fuck.. So while we are riding in the cab, I notice a convenience store near the hotel as we are riding to it. It turns out she is changing rooms that day so I put her in the line, and tell her I have to go to the bathroom, and to wait for me in the lobby. I then RUN as fast as I fucking can 2 blocks to that convenience store, and then back to the hotel as fast as I fucking can. It was hilarious, I was tired, but laughing as shit at how ridiculous this was as I was tearing down the sidewalks with the condoms in my hand! I get there, and she is waiting for me in the lobby as I asked her. She takes my hand, and asks me why my hand are so cold? (uh oh, she clues in something is odd.. I tell her I was not peeing, but sitting down for a while, so they got cold ;-) ). She accepts my bullshit and says nothing more. Then she tells me unfortunately the room is small so I cannot stay overnight (buckwheat! this is her hint that I am allowed to go to her room, and not say goodbye in the lobby!). We head into the elevator, I tongue her down some more, and go up to her room on a high floor. The view is quite good actually. She immediately sits on the bed, while I take off my shoes. It is now totally obvious what she is expecting.. beyond any fucking doubt. I tell her I need to go to the bathroom again (since the last time I told her, I really went to get the condoms, but now I really need to take a leak). I get out, and she is sitting on the bed waiting for me (ha!). I sit down next to her, and immediately start tonguing her down. She falls down (pulls me down) right on the bed, and I go for her neck, and start taking off her top. Suck tits, she is shaking and yelping. Off stockings, bra, and I start fingering her till she is screaming. Off panties, on (new) condom, and fuck.. no resistance whatsoever from the time I got into the room. Funny thing is that 1/2 way through, she stops and says she has to take a pee. I stop, and then while she is in the bathroom, I undo the curtain and open it in the window, so I can do an HB ass style window fuck with her. She comes out, and then I push her to the glass till her tits are against it, and then fuck her there for a while before putting her back onto the bed to finish the job. She is a good fuck, gets into it alot like screambabe did. She then tells me she wants to take a shower, and asks me to come with her. We bathe each other, and then she says in the shower a bit longer. I need to get home to HB Ass (now I realize I will never marry a chick, I hate this, and will kick HB Ass out fairly soon) before she complains too much (I have to set some rules I think). I dress up while Psychicbabe is in the shower, and then when she gets out, I tuck her to bed, say goodnight, and then I leave and go home. So what did I learn from this evening? First, in some cases at least, if you are up front with chicks about the fact that you fuck other chicks, they accept (and in this case, expect) it, and dont care about it. I also learned how to deal with tough field situations (ie. HB ass at my place.. the last minute bullshit story I needed to pull to go buy the condoms..etc). Finally, I learned again, how fucking is a team sport. I had an easy time because although Psychicbabe wasnt direct to say 'take me home and fuck me', she left plenty of hints all over to make it obvious that that is exactly what she was expecting from me. It was just up to me to recognize this, inquire enough about how to do this (ie. where was she staying, what were her circumstances..etc), get the kino and comfort feelings going, and then get there and do her. Another thing, is that this chick was rebounding from getting blown out from her BF 2 days ago. Probably she wasn't looking for sex directly, but rather as reassurance that she is still a woman, can get a guy, and is capable to do her job as a woman after her blowout. Chicks I think are MUCH more insecure than guys, especially in situations like this (something I have to study more up on). Sex is just a way for her to justify this to her self (in a chick logic sort of way). Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/pu-laying-a-careerwoman-psychic-babe-lives-fucks-her-future/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com More Wisdom from HB Vamp! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:48:28 GMT Chick report: More HB Vamp Wisdom.. 001103 Cleaning out my harddisk, here are some more notes about HB Vamp I made after laying her the first time.. provides good insight into chick thinking: 1) She had had a playboy boyfriend before (ie. a guy seeing lots of chicks). She was OK with fucking him though because just she wanted to be treated nice and that was the only thing that was important to her, so that is why she was interested in him.. 2) She has two types of guys she likes. Type (1) is an ideal guy and close relationship. But if she cannot get that (because its hard), she will want type (2) instead, which is casual sex with NO relationship. Funny thing is that re: #2, HB ass also said the exact same thing today. Chicks want relationships, but if they cannot get that, a no strings attached (ie. not lots of "I love you" and phone calls) friendship + sex is also desireable. Interesting.. comments anyone? Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-wisdom-from-hb-vamp/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/ From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website http://www.pickupguide.com Even more Grand Master stuff by Nathan! From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936693716 28286 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 30 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57231 Status: O Are you ready to get laid twice a day? Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week, preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation -- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding". -- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come? -- I like you because you're intelligent <gestures over your breasts>. I like myself because I'm intelligent, too <gesture over dick>. -- If you're nice enough I will lick you. -- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes? -- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger -- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping there. -- Hide your pleasure! -- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone. -- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all the women. So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie inside. Nothign else. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Message-ID: <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936700483 33261 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 10:34:42 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 60 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57244 Status: O Ok some more lines: -- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite -- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite -- women are lining up to be with me -- it's tough to be such a sex symbol -- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you? OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!! He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING <HUG>" before she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 38 Message-ID: <slrn7ta1oq.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <slrn7t9jnn.fms.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <slrn7t9qb7.g1g.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r2vqj$cf3@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936708087 39410 195.114.83.33 (7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Sep 1999 12:41:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57255 Status: O On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com <LordGaeden@hotmail.com> wrote: | He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with | intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing | that would repulse the girls even more. There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment cause by the insult. | > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to | > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious | > when you see it happening. | > | > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, | > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have | > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid". | | And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks | away? No he carries on. | Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk | off, come back later to follow up? He's really persistent. | Does GM get 10s? There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a caf?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 8 Message-ID: <slrn7thnl0.tf4.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <7r5hi6$rkd@the-fly.zip.com.au> <7r6orl$o7c@popeye.eur.nl> <tqCB3.747$qQ3.1026@news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936959879 83913 195.114.83.33 (10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57732 Status: O On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg <M@M> wrote: | OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED! | | " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec <pause>? You see a | snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out" From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my for Status: O me while I'm peeing?" From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200 Lines: 75 Message-ID: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp27-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 936842667 1727 194.149.182.27 (9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 02:04:27 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57483 Status: O Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: 8:30 - 0 8:45 - 0 9:00 - 0 9:15 - ? LOL Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of it. To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties, (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks actually, he says. She agrees. --- Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the fact they've met before. --- Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. LOL Just kidding". As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting the 'just kidding' part. Talk about being straightforward. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 197 Message-ID: <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 936891004 44779 195.114.83.33 (9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 1999 15:30:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57558 Status: O On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com <whoisthis19@my-deja.com> wrote: | In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>, | Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> wrote: | > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, | > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage | > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for | > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s | > before. | | You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging | away? I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his stuff anyway. | > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls) | > that fuck his approach. | | Complains to you or to the targets? To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come on them :) | > Approach another two set. We're getting | > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write: | > 8:30 - 0 | > 8:45 - 0 | > 9:00 - 0 | > 9:15 - ? | > LOL | > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works | > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see. | | God damn what an easy and effective gimmic! Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give a damn shit. | > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of | > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could | > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets | > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners, | > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter | > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place | > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no | > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a | > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of | > it. | > | > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. | | Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE | you eject? Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. | >He's not | > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk | > champagne. | | We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get | laid. When does GM make the "come to my place" move? How far is your | place from the cafes? "N., does that champagne offer still stand?" "Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one! Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?" "Where?" "At my place" "He lives just round the corner" And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins. My place is really close from the caf? -- that's actually the reason why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit: I'm using him too. | > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her | > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in | > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, | > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and | > ass) | | PIV? Penis In Vagina | MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice | > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is | > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick | > as my birthday present. No. | | Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her" No he's not bi, he asked HER of course. | > So he gets her to show me her titties, | > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the | > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to | > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 | > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. | | Damn this is erotic. alt.sex.stories.true lol | | > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have | > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does | > that. | | No kidding! He's got to have a good technique in bed. | | > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck. | > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim. | > | > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. | > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl | > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to | > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks | > actually, he says. She agrees. | | I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things | too. I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was | alone. What kind of things do you do? I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I hardly ever do anyway. | In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing | time having coffee? Are woman used to being approached in these places. Any woman. | Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of | any cafe here. Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no violence. And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them. | > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is | > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the | > fact they've met before. | | How did it work out? She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for the theatre or something. | > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing | > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact | > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in | > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms. | > LOL Just kidding". | | This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial | disease issue. He finds ways to joke about it. Maybe what I just said | is key. He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but | always with humor. Do you find him funny? Do the woman laugh at his | jokes? YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE -- BUT THEY LAUGH!!!! | > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he | > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting | > the 'just kidding' part. | > | > Talk about being straightforward. | | God! NOOOOOO SHIT!!! Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for | about 20 seconds and she left with him? Did you ever get the story | behind that? Did he just go up and ask her to fuck? That was in a | disco wasnt it? Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing. I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how could he?) -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999 From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:20:03 +0200 Lines: 174 Message-ID: <37D84EB3.7282C0A0@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org> <7r8dkv$cam@nnrp1.deja.com> <slrn7tfkcn.qsg.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7r8ri3$nlq@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp188-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 936922798 95876 194.149.182.188 (10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:57666 Status: O whoisthis19@my-deja.com a ?crit: > > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach. > > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the > > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. > > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come > > on them :) > > He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds > like mystery. He seems to be a natural. I wonder if he went through an > AFC phase once? Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back in that position. And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that they do the same old program again. Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all win. Pleasure. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ---- I NEED SOME HELP!! Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tmvkm.1vq.nathan@portn.icommerce-france.com> References: <37db5a60.184946270@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp170-paris1.isdnet.net X-Trace: news3.isdnet.net 937131665 1588 194.149.181.170 (12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58017 Status: O On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool <oldschool1964@hotmail.com> wrote: >Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule. I >see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach. "I can't >believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said >anything to you!! Hi, my name is Ed. . .". I try to run some jokes >and ask about school, etc. Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks >at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare. I GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes? Tell me, cause I really don't like giving pearls to swines" >catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my >friends now. It was nice meeting you. . ." What a fucking loser >line!!! No rapport from the start. No way in hell I was gonna close >in a decent way. From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM joke Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 17 Message-ID: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937213078 1734 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 08:57:58 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58148 Status: O "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?" "No?" "Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then that means that you liked us!" I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED. Damn it. From: Nathan SZILARD <nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: GM joke Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <37DD506A.99506389@metabork.fr.eu.org> References: <slrn7tpet3.86t.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> <7risp0$qi2@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <rtq1g5kq1iv72@corp.supernews.com> <7rjf7n$uk@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp117-paris2.isdnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news5.isdnet.net 937250913 17540 194.149.182.117 (13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@isdnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) Lines: 73 Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58253 Status: O Simple. "have you seen my new watch?" "what?" "it's a telepathic watch." "What?" "yeah he can guess things about you" "yeah right, like what" "hm ... right now it says that you have no panties" "then it must be wrong!" "<tap> <tap> oh it must an hour fast" nightlight9@hotmail.com a ?crit: > > Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it > was cute). It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could > work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male): > > A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next > to a very attractive woman. He gives her a quick glance, then > casually looks at his watch for a moment. > > The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?" > > "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and > I was just testing it." > > The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch? What's so > special about it?" > > "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains. > > "What's it telling you now?" > > "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties." > > The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then, > because I am wearing panties!" > > And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn > thing must be an hour fast From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM come back lines Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 20 Message-ID: <slrn7tpus7.98a.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 937229434 10004 195.114.83.33 (13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:30:34 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:58187 Status: O Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes: "Hide your joy!" "Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!" And the best of the best (best responses): "If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!" I would never have believed that without seeing it happening before my eyes. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Going GM on a model Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 25 Message-ID: <slrn7un63k.k0f.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 938187313 16002 195.114.83.33 (24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:59805 I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway. (Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...) I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally craking up. After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said: "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!! That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Field Report: The 3 Minute Pickup Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT Organization: [Posted via] Easynet France Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrn80b9lp.6li.nathan@linuxserver.it-xchange.com> References: <38050F38.F6F73A5C@my-Deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.114.83.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: buggy.easynet.fr 939894424 52036 195.114.83.33 (14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1999 09:47:04 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Xref: news-f.iadfw.net alt.seduction.fast:63164 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike <mikecrestjo@my-Deja.com> wrote: (...) | Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say, | ?sure, why don?t we continue this some other time, like say over | coffee??. She?s says, ?Coffee? Sure, I?m sure I?ll see you around here | again.? Me, ?No you won?t, I?m not even from here, I?m from Vancouver.? | Her, ?Oh, I?m from Surrey. Well, I don?t go out for coffee with people I | don?t know.? GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again" Huh, don't know if it's that good. | Me, ?Well, tell you what, then why don?t we exchange | numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there | and then we can go for coffee.? Her (in semi-trance by now), ?do you | have a pen??. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it. She asks, soudns good. | It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas | station attendant came out to make sure I wasn?t going to molest her or | something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting | as bars from Hell could get. -- Don't ask me personal seduction questions, please post to the group. ASF's practical FAQ and newbie starting point: http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/ ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate No shit, heh? I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption. The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still 3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money off his skills. Anyway. I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do anything special. I just got to listen to him talking on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great. But hey. What he gets of them. Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a while because another chick is coming to visit him the next day, staying for a week, then another one, "and you won't be able to come over then, because remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her, and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the way to England, it's really not nice of you." Then he says that he's never going to marry her ???? (What? Is she even believing it to be possible???) Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was fucking the friend !!! Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe the fucking scene!!! But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He starts being angry when they don't do what he wants, and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault, that they don't respect him. So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that "oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says. "Oh wait I have something for you" she replies. Don't know what it is. I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt get to see the chick. Fucking headache. Doh. Double triple doh. The GM method? They don't want to do what you want of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he still wanted me to hang out with him and complained because I could'nt come sarging with him. -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial ---- From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000 From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again. And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart. The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street, and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris. GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should be grateful." Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily . He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a sleaze? That's the message he conveys. More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time. Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines" he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux cochons"). -- Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites: <URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial <URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/more-on-the-grand-master/feed/ 0 http://www.pickupguide.com/taro-sans-basic-seduction-guide/ http://www.pickupguide.com/taro-sans-basic-seduction-guide/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/taro-sans-basic-seduction-guide/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Taro-san, a master PUA outlines his seduction guide! From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Mar 25 00:03:46 2000 From: "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Subject: Taro-san's Seduction Guide! Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Followup-To: alt.seduction.fast Taro-san's Seduction Guide! 000325 I just got a snail mail letter from Taro-san, an awesome Japanese PUA (who speaks good English) who is staying in Paris this year, containing a summary of his chick seduction guide. He is an artist or something, and lives to PU chicks. I will post his note below as it is, and we can discuss it/take it apart/ask him questions. I will also put it on my page during the next update. Maniac http://www.pickupguide.com ---------Taro san's Seduction Strategy----------- From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Guide http://www.pickupguide.com ROUGH IDEA OF THE SEDUCTION Step 1)Telephone call (3..5 times), it means NO DATES Step 2)Invite her over, (it means NO DATES) Step 3)Achievement (ie. the lay), it means satisfaction. The point of "1)" is to enable her to talk about anything with you. The point of "2)" is to make her want to see you. For "3)", you want to tell her about/describe the "ceremony" [this is the "Our World" routine on Maniac's page (www.pickupguide.com)]. The "ceremony" is she must hug/kiss you (from her all the time, not from you..make her believe SHE's got initiative).. actually, you control her absolutely, but don't make her notice..make her believe she's got a choice/decides herself. When she comes, intercourse is a SPECIAL experience, and makes each other peaceful, comfortable, more intimate, closer..etc...whatever. ---Okay, now the details for the above steps: Step 1)Therefore the conversation is really important. Basically, it should be very personal, but it makes her interested. The subject should be wide, like from orgasm to her favorite chocolate. The attitude of your talking should be extremely wide (super ridiculously funny to super philosophically serious) Step 2) a)The very first moment (VERY IMPORTANT) of the meeting, you CAN'T MISS the "ceremony kiss" (as you described in the phone call). Start with "kiss me" on my cheek (like french 'bec' way), and then "on my mouth, once more.. "slowly", "tenderly")<-- very important, it makes her relieve (usually) comfortable. Its okay whatever you say, eventually, as long as you acheive the "ceremony". b)Sitting next to her (hopefully on the sofa, or bed.. easy to move onto the "action" after kiss there. c)After/during Kisses & hugs... take the clothes off.. the concept is to be closer, "feel each other" <--this is better, ..blah blah. [The concept is "human's body is much more comfortable than clothes]. Step 3) Fuck her -- The essential thing in this course is: 1)Telephone 2)Invite her+ "Ceremony" [Another nice thing about it: Total cost to lay chick: $0.00] -- I have several questions to Taro-san about the details above, and will post more here as it comes in. Constructive comments/opinions welcome! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com --]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/taro-sans-basic-seduction-guide/feed/ 0