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Earlobe Kino!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Using the ‘color’ game to PU!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

The New Maniac Plan 2002

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

This is my latest pickup plan. It is very long, but an AFC can learn it,
and follow it and likely get laid with it. As it is notes to myself (mainly)
some of it can be pretty cryptic. It is not word for word of what to say,
but the topics as reminders to me. Key is tonality and delivery (smooth,
slow talking, deep voice with confidence) as you run this plan.

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

Notes:
-A PU running this plan takes 3 (better 3.5) hours from opening to
lay. So to not run out of time, plan enough
time (3 / 3.5) + train time to return chick + 30 minutes (comfort factor).
She may not actually go back that night, but will need to know that she
can do so, before she agrees to go to your place.

-If the chick has a BF, you must GO FOR THE ONS TONIGHT. It is far more
likely she will flake out (ie. forget about you) if you do not get her
TONIGHT because once she does her BF again, she will get UNEASY, or FORGET
about you! If the chick has no BF, then you can risk waiting till the 2nd
time to lay her if timing or conditions are not right. But if a BF, you must
GO FOR IT TONIGHT as it is almost certain that she will NOT see you again
(even if she is sure she will at that first night), once she sees her BF's
face again the next time. (exception, married chicks, treat them as if they
are single.. they are probably sick of seeing their husbands faces!).

Also, if kino is good, you should go for the lay tonight, chicks monthly
cycles radically affect their horniness. Most chicks will be very horny
for a few days when they are fertile, and the rest of the time, don't care
about sex as much. So if you meet an HB, she is ready to go and make a date
for next week, chances are HIGHER she will be ICE COLD when you see her the
next time, just because her horny state has been lost. So Don't wait. On
the other hand, if you meet a chick, and she is reacting well to you, but
not kino, then maybe this is not her horny day, wait a week or two, and
try again before giving up.

-This plan focusses mainly on 'feeling' phrases (which are effective on
chicks) versus fact phrases (which are not as effective on chicks, since
chicks are not logical). It also has the advantage that it makes the plan
more flexible, because feeling things can be said in a much less strict order
(and even repeated often), which is not true of fact phrases (you can only say
what you did this morning one time to her). Each time you repeat a feeling
phrase in conversation, the chick will internalize it more.. which is what you
want.

How to use this plan:
-The idea is to start using the phrases in a section below, and then when
possible (ie. after you have run a bunch of the phrases in 1 section), start
slowly introducing phrases from the next section (each section is a mental state
transition, of the chick) below, (while still using some from the previous
section), and then expanding into the following section after that, while
still using phrases from the previous section. This may feel (to a guy) to be
random illogical rambling (which it is!), but remember, chicks don't think
logically, so they will not notice this (ever wonder how chicks ramble
senselessly for hours on end with their friends about totally nothing!?).

So as wierd as it may sound to you, the chick WILL be fooled by this,
and it will sound totally like regular natural conversation to her. This takes
care of the problem of 'natural sounding' conversation while doing transitions/
state setups. The lines in each section are in order of 'usefulness/ease of
applicability in general situations', so lines at the start of each section are
better. You can talk for 2..3 hours using this plan, and it should take around
2..3 or 4 hours of talk to get the chick to the last section/state of this
plan so that you can lay her. You do not need to complete a section before
moving to the next one, just use as many lines/topics from a section till
she is comfortable that you can raise lines from the next following section.

This means that it should always be possible to introduce phrases from any
section above the section you are currently in, while slowly advancing through
each section to the next (more deeper one) below. As a rule, you should try to
be saying phrases only from at most 3 adjacent sections (ie. when you move
into a new section of phrases, you (for the most part) drop the oldest section
you were using. Keep doing down the plan until you either lay the chick, or
crash the PU. Basically that is how it works.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

How it works:
-This plan is arranged to seduce the chick first from a romantic/emotional
(vertical) standpoint, and if that fails, use the 'emergency close' which is
a logical direct (horizontal) point of view (ie. HB brains) in the 'closing'
section.

-Purpose of PU is to see if you can control, lead and conquer that chick and
not to get them to like you. You want to take over them in their mind, that
is the game. Chicks and guy's brains work very differently, and speak a
different language when it comes to attraction of the opposite sex. This plan,
speaks that language. In short the translation table is something as follows:

Woman Man
----------------------------------------------------
Trust Hot ass just begging for it
Relaxed and talk Big tits
Honesty Getting it until she screams
Understanding Bending over, and taking it from behind
Honest talk Wild shagging
Communication Fishnet stockings with holes in the right places
Culture and fun Sex and fun

Some examples: here is some normal guyspeak, and how it gets translated to
chickspeak before it comes out of your mouth, if you want to attract and then
arouse the chick, and then finally be able to lay her:

FROM: That is a really hot ass, I would love to do you from behind
TO: It is so important to have deep trust and understanding when you are with
someone you are with. For me, that is what I need first before anything else.
(with kino)

FROM: Fuck those tits are big, I want to put my boner between those
TO: For me, to feel relaxed, and comfortable together, and be able to talk about
anything, that is so desireable, when being with someone who I want to enjoy
spending time with. (with kino)

Make sense? Yes, it seems about as alien as translating English into Chinese, but
it does work, and it WILL get you laid. This is how different guy thinking and
chick thinking are, and why (up to now), there has been so much misunderstanding
by guys, about chick logic, on what makes a woman work and how to nail her. For the
first time ever, with this guide, you now have the translation dictionary, needed
to translate your thinking into chickspeak, so that you can communicate with women
on their level in a way they will understand and react to.. and then nail them!
Using this, they usually never know what hit them! (just "it seems so right and
natural" they usually say after, while their drippy panties are on the floor next
to them after an evening of (unexpected) very hot sex!).

If you get stuck remember:
Guys want: Girls want:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Short skirts To feel special
Sexy legs To be understood
Nice ass To feel connection
Net stockings To feel attractive/sexy
Excitment Excitement
Nice face Guys who are assertive, strong, leader
Big Tits confident, successful

-->Also in openers a good strategy is to make an aggressive statement, but
then follow it up with a very innocuous question. That will soften it, and
allow you to probe more aggressively, than if you had only made the comment
without the followup question. Conversation should always be that way, at
least initially.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

Format of reading this:
Each left most '-' is a new topic. Indented lines are followups to the same
item. The next leftmost '-' is a new topic.
Everything within left most [xxxx] is a new state transition/section.

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

[Self Affirmations/pre opener]
-everyone wants to meet other people!
-I DON'T GIVE A SHIT!
-I DON'T CARE!
-IT DOESN'T MATTER!
-IT'S NOT MY FAULT!
-LETS DO IT/TRY SOME STUFF OUT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
-siren voice come out "all girls are waiting for you!"
-Experiment in psychology
-kanchou (Mr. Smooth, and how he behaves like the 'captain'
-attitude
-this is an experiment
-(you must arrange all places ahead of time (eating/drinking place with
counters (and backups in case they are full), shagging place, where taxis
are, condoms and music ready at home..etc... it is like a Broadway play,
anything that fucks up, and chick will lose state).

[Warmups] (credit: Rock Harders)
-To warm my self when I go into a bar, I can adopt a party host mentality
quite quickly. I walk in and start talking to women right away as if I was
meeting my best friends at a party. For example, I'm in, I would see a girl
wearing item x of clothing, and make a comment on it right away, get her
giggling or flattered then I would say something like have a nice evening
(like a party host would). I act as if I own the place. It's not sarging,
but I do this to warm up and I might do 4 or 5 of these before I get into the
proper approaches

-Must check every chick, do a quick 'game on' test, with 'comfortable/communication/
good feeling' and see what is reaction/ie. basically a quick screen of every chick
to find the game-on ones. Sometimes I assume/don't test a chick... mistake, I missed
(then later recovered) that sometimes after I then saw another guy do the test, and
then I went in..
-Any time a chick makes EC (eye contact), smile or say hi!
-Remember your 'happy bubble' which is all around you!
-Go through affirmations

[Observation of target to create opening line]
-rings (color, big, small, color, pattern)
-where did you get it
-what is your favorite style?
-how many do you have
-do you make any yourself?
-what is your favorite color?
-what do you wear with it?
-what other styles do you like?
-hairstyle/color
-clothes
-you can get in US/korea
-ever travel to there?
-where did you go?
-Europe?
-art/music
-communication/culture differences
-earings (color, big, small, color, pattern, sexy, matches outfit?)
-jewelry
-jacket/coat (looks so elegant!)
-necklace (big small, color, gold, pattern)
-skirt/dress
-long/short dress
-material of her clothes
-what she is reading/holding
-handbag?
-shopping bag?
-her phone
-shoes
-lipstick/makeup (looks great)
-wearing leather
-new age type/punker/elegant type
-dressed casual (you look so natural!)
-dressed up (you look so elegant!)
-wearing studs?
-tatoo
-lots of black?

[Openers - gentle / stealth - no props:
There are so many openers because you are entering in an uncontrolled situation,
idea is to funnel into a controlled one, then the plan gets more specific/narrow.
Usually, openers tend to be questions, as that is only way to keep chick talking.]
-Getting 'primed' in a new social group/situation/people you want to talk to,
but no introduction
-Walk by a couple times, make EC/wave/blink/big eyes, keep going walking
-Walk again, oh, there you are again, then do regular openers
-EC
-EC where you are in rush/going somewhere
-Would you like to see me again (make appt time/place (NO NUMBERS!))
-Wave/hello
-(rainy day), wow the weather is cold/wet/terrible!
-(nice weather after bad weather) wow its a really nice day today/finally, isn't it
-Where is xxx/Starbucks
-I am not sure, do you have a few minutes, can you take me there?
-This place is full, can I sit here
-Is anyone using this (next to her empty) table?
(go RIGHT THEN to next opener, keep eye contact, so dont get uncomfortable
blank period). Do even if place not full... probably she won't notice that fact.
-Do you speak English?
-(Fake phone conversation opener, sitting next to chick, be loud, remark where you
are, next to two cute girls)
-will be late (from phone convo)
-where is xxx (from phone convo)
-(remark to girls about the phone convo, open the girls)
-Excuse me
-Smile/grin (Mr. Lager style)
-Stare at her (followed by a Mr. Lager smile/grin)
-my niece has a scarf/hat/jewelry/haircolor just like that! can I see?!
-Which of these (point to two items) do you think looks better?
-you know, your style is so cool!
-your hair, it is so soft (touch it)
-and your skin, so gentle (rub ear?)
-do you like it to be touched?
-That dress is really unusual (mare(na))
-My coworker has a very similar one
-Where is a good place to get it/did you get it?
-That xxx/ring/neckless is so beautiful/unusual,
-where did you get it
-by who
-why you like it so much? (give all attention to it, and not the chick herself)
..ie. nanpa the jewelry, not her..)
-how often do you go there?
-That is a big bag, my sister has one, where did you get it?
-It looks so unusual
-Where did you buy it?
-What is in your bag?
-What is your favorite color?
-That is a nice dress
-it looks so unusual/stylish
-my sister has one like it
-What is your favorite style, color?
-Where do you usually go shopping?
-Why do you like that store?
-How often do you go?
-what do you usually buy?
-depending on the price? what size?
-(standing by her, looking at her book) Where did you learn to read English?
-Did you live overseas?
-How long did you stay?
-Do you mind if I sit down
-(then continue talking lines from this plan)
-(read her cup/something brand/book she has)
-What is that? (what you read)/are you drinking?
-Where did you get it/what does it taste like?
-Is it your favorite?
-What else do you recommend?
-to go to shiba koen/xxxx, how long it takes
-easy to go? 15 minutes
c: explains way to go
-Do you have a light (if you/friend smokes)
-So what are you doing out here today?/did you do today out here?
-What drink/tea is that?
-Do you know how to send an email on this phone?
-I'm lost! Where is xxxx?!
-Can you take me/us there?
-tell me, do you happen to do fashion designer/do yoga? you look like the
type who does, you have that energy about you
-its unusual to meet this way, so I want to find more about you
-what are you doing now?/reading/going?
-You must be/are you a dancer/from Spain, an artist
-just a moment, she (to wing/to target's friend) you look like whiteney houston!
-sit next to girl: what do you think about xxxx (westminster abbey)
-forgive the interuption as you are doing xxxx (reading relaxation book), but I'm
curious about something... Do you happen to yyyy (yoga), or zzzz (meditation)
She says yes or no. If she says no, I add: well, you look like the type who does,
bc... you have great energy and I just had to tell you.

[Openers - gentle/stealth - props/situation:
Usually, openers are questions (only way to have conversation work at start)]
-What are you reading?
c: Marie Claire
-That sounds expensive
-In the states, that is only 400yen
-Have you ever been to the USA
-Where else have you been?
-Which of these pictures do you like more?
-What do you feel when you see this picture?
-you look very interested in that book, what are you reading?
-so tell me what is interesting about it?
-What do you like about NY? (she has book on NYC)
-Why not LA?
c:NY is stylish
-So what do you like L.V., or Prada?
c: LV
-Then you should go to France
c:sou kana
-you never been to Europe?
-you must like shopping
-what brand?
-What is the good point of that brand?
-c: (reading a food magazine)
-So do you like French/Italian (whatever page she is on) restaurants?
-I dont know about Italian/French Restaurants, of these, which is good?
c: looks for new, unusual restaurant
-Do you know restaurant in Shibuya which is good?
c: no {whenever chick does a straight no, use a joke next to open her up}
-You ever been to Shibuya? {with smile/laughing/surprise expression}
c:yes! {laugh}
-doko/where?
c:109
-What is 109?
-Which you think tastes better, the xxxx (Ice tea), or (yyyy) Herbal tea?
-What other flavors here are good?
-What did you do here today?
-That scarf/dress is very unusual, where did you get it?
-you look like you are going on a trip/where are you going?
c: am going to nepal
-really, nepal, my classmate is going there, I heard it is so beautiful,
-what are you doing now
-can you tell me more about it
-where is a good place to go?
-(reading TC) You know.. I am wondering,.. xxxx (which of these girls you
think is nice)?
-why do you like her?
-what type of guy you like?
-what is your BF like?
-'hmmm, can you suggest some good classical music bc I need some really good
stuff to listen to tonight'
-This led into some fluff about classical music, I discover shes a damn good
violinist and i talk about paganni etudes and caprices, and I talk about
playing violin music on the piano. She shows me some good music so I take
the CDs, and a little more fluff about music and about herself (3 minutes).
-(reading textbook) what is this kanji {this is lame}
-Do you believe in ESP? (need prop, like book on it first)
-Ghosts in the Thai office story.
-Do you believe in Spells? (need prop, like book on it first)
-Night in the graveyard story.
-you are putting on lots of makeup, what is special today?
-Hey look at that lamer trying to pick up those 2 chicks, isn't that funny
-Go into Iranian from hell story
-(in coffeeshop/on train reading book) it says here that xxxx (guys in HK are
nice to girls because too few)..
-what do you think?

[Openers - aggressive / with wing / young chicks:
Do a few from this list to keep conversation going]
-kawaii
-Japanese for busy people opener (with 5 questions homework, are you Japanese,
where do you live, what is your hobby?..etc)
-if two set, "did anyone ever tell her she is so beautiful?", ask her friend
-the palm reading handshake (shake hands, put your free hand round her wrist
then upturn her palm into palm position, then rub her soft hands and fingers
and say, 'hmm, fascinating.' while rubbing more and more. Follow on with 'I
have an intuition about you. You are xxxx (passionate and sexy) because you
are xxxx (so open minded and energetic).'
-what is your email?
-did anyone ever tell you you are so beautiful?" *kiddingly in the siren
voice* (if nice answer, then tell her, if bitch, tell her "no one ever will!
I wonder why!)
-Your fashion/dress/hairstyle/shoes/legs/face/smile/walk/dance is great
-where did you get that skirt/sweater/boots
-I like stylish fashion
-what is your favorite color
-how often you shop there?
-You are pretty and very sexy and I want to see you again (HBILikeSexy train opener..very direct)
-he ask for number, and then when got it, ask to see her right now to go somewhere
-sugoi (that) xxxx (scarf, hair..etc), where did you get that?
-you have a really nice smile
-I would be so honored that I can shake your hand/you kiss me? (CK) (as club
/izakaya/restaurant opener)
-Wait to see if she will do real KC, if not, then gesture a CK.
(might be bad if she KC so easily, like Smooth's girl's friend.. then gets frozen)
-Probably all of your friends tell you this, but it/you are so cool/cheerful/stylish.'
-It shows you have alot of energy/cheerfulness/taste
-where did you get it?
-Oh really, I thought it was from someplace exotic, like India
-Did you ever go to India? (=fact)
-Where did you go? (=fact)
-Where would you like to go? (=feeling)
-Probably all your friends already tell you this.
-xxxx (But you have a really nice smile)
-yyyy (it shows you have a lot of positive energy).
-Maybe you are told every day, no? [giggle], when you go work, home, sit next to the
guy on the bus and they say xxxx (you have a nice smile) about you.
-What is the occaission tonight (you are so dressed up)
-Where are you going?
-Did you ever go there?
-What is interesting/unusual about that place?
-I had to say that you have a so incredibly xxxx (sounding voice).
-I heard that someone who is xx, is also very yyy
-I read somewhere that a person with an exceptional voice, is also very intelligent
as well
-I want you to do a favor for me,
-I want you to imagine that you are in a field, all by yourself (Str.fld, 4q, cube)
-can you do that for me? (continue the 4q game, or whatever from here)
-so, why did you come here tonight
-Did you go here before?
-How often do you come here?
-What places you like to go?
-Why is that place good?
-How is your evening so far?
-(To girl dancing with friend.. get in front)
-hello, I like you, do you like me? lets be friends

[openers that work only with wings who are funny/laughing]
-What do you think about my friend's hairstyle?
-Does he look better with punky, or straight hair?
-(comment to your wing, about target, loud enough so she hears and reacts)
-Wow, check out her xxxx (hair/skirt/sunglasses..), isn't that wild?!
-(She will likely turn her eyes to you when she realizes you are talking about her,
then go, 'so tell me about that xxxx', I am curious about it now)
-Wow (but very friendly if day, silly if night/out)
-(dump stuff/glasses..etc on the floor, ask for help)
-leap in front of her!
-just a moment (hand in police stop signal)
-hey, what do you think about my xxxx (wierd ring, I got today/necklace..
get this kind of gimmick before you go to club)
-please talk to us/me - lets talk
-please stop

[anti-stalls/fluff runners (no wing/non sexual):
Keep the conversation going after the initial openers]
-(kino)
you want to get out of this step, and into the ones below ASAP!]
-Any english?
-where did you study?
-how long?
-you are very good!
-I am surprised, you seem like a kind/gentle person
-What kind of person do your friends say you are?
-Did you ever go abroad?
-Where did you go? (=fact)
-What did you see (=fact)
-Where would you like to go? (=feeling)
-You ever go to NYC/Hawaii
-Would you like to go?
-What do you want to see? (museums, parks, clubs, shopping, beach?)
-How long does it take you to get to work?
-Is your house far from the station?
-Do you ride your bike, or walk?
-What time do you usually finish work?
-What time do you usually get home from work? (=fact)
-How long have you been doing your job? (=fact)
-You think about quitting your job (=feeling)
-What do you usually do when you finish work
-What do you do on a day you are not working?
-Is your work/study busy?
-How do you relax after a really hard day of work.
-I take warm bath, new age music, relax
-What kind of music do you like (point/hold my walkman)
-what do you want to become (singer/dancer)?
c:singer
-what is favorite singer?
c:U2
-u2!
-can you sing it!?
-Recently/tomorrow/tonight I saw/will see spiderman (=xxx, something recently,
to open topic)
-what is your favorite movie type (romantic/adventure)
-Movies/actor/actress
-what are you, student?
-what kind of school?
c: fashion design
-what is your favoriate color?
-what kind of materials you like?
-but my skirt, can see a bit, this material;
-Do you come to Shibuya/xxx often?
-What do you think of her? (point to 3rd person around there)
-maybe you look better than her though?
-So you must speak french/english?
-So how long have you been studying?
-xxx, That is so unusual
-Where did you get it?
-What else do/did you get there?
=What places do you recommend?
-lets be friends,
-everyone wants friends
-So you must like xxx (psychology) then.. it expresses differences in culture
-(go to lower parts of plan)
-Do you have brothers and sisters?
-So today you must have xxx (if weekday, work, if weekend 'did laundry')
-(ie. pick something as assumption that is funny, or you think she did)
-you xxxx, wow, can you tell me more about it?
-I have an intuition about you.. you are xxxx ???XLATE INTUITION!
-"it is funny how people communicate".. like if I were to
say to you xxxx (you fall in love with me, attract my voice..
pu)/induction, it would make you feel yyy (like me), wouldnt
it... THIS IS GREAT< CAN INJECT ANYTHING! AT ANY TIME!
-(if two set) So tell me, what is the most interesting thing about your
friend?

[anti-stalls/fluff runners (with laughing wing/sexual/aggressive)]
(this is mostly stuff from the nanpa videos.. I havent tested so much... M.H.)
-(kino)
-its pretty, kawaii
-what is your height?
c:160
-very sexy
-just a moment
-I want to see your hair under the hat
-[take off cap]
-kirei, its so cute!
-very sexy
-one favor, what color is your hair?
-(touch hair)
-That is stylish fashion!
-we are doing interview for / you have stylish fashion
-you know, your style is so cool!
-your hair, it is so soft (touch it)
-and your skin, so gentle (rub ear?)
-do you like it to be touched?
-wow, what fashion, it looks all worn out (jean shorts)
-what is your favorite color/today's color?
-just a moment
-I want to see your hair under the hat
[take off cap]
-kirei, its so cute!
-wow your skin looks so smooth
-nice smell (perfume)
-What is it? (=fact)
-Where did you get it (=fact)
-Why do you like it? (=feeling)
-you smell like cat, it is so nice!
-today, no parttime work?
-she has face like dog! (nice way)
-so honest, and cute
-how many of you in your group
c:18
-so many?
-why they all left, sugoi..
-you two must be wild

-what are you wearing under your coat? [this section is clothes]
-Can you show me?
-your dress looks so nice
-you have bra?
-color?
-black?
-(CK gesture), nice guy
-fashion check, can you show us inside your coats
-just a bit, show us
c: open coats a tiny bit
-just open 3 seconds
c: [opens coats]
-wow, it is so great
-wow!
-what clothes style you like?...
-h question (if shes smiling), tback, or panties)
-fashion interview
-what is underwear color
c:white
-what is your 3 size?
c: xx xx xx (numbers)
-chotto h question, but what color is your panties?
c: chotto.. (cant decide)
-you like lace?
-panties, tback, you ever wear?
-what kind of bra under that dress?
-d cup?
c:secret
-if unbutton your dress, can see everything?
-What is your favorite part of your body?
-panties, tback?

-So what kind of guy is your BF like/Do you have a BF? [this section is guys/sexlife]
-when is the wedding?
-When did you break up with your BF?
-when was last time you did H
c: 4 months
-kawaisou..
-Maybe this is an unusual question, but how often each week did H
c: 3 times
-did you come
c: no
-kawaisou
-lets ask an h thing. how many times you make love / week
-10!
-how many boys? bfs?
-2? 3?
c: 2
-she is player
-when was last sex? yesterday?
-[giggle]
c: don't know
-besides your bf, did you ever fuck?
-no bf?
c:no
-hate guys?
c:hate
-I like girls
-no bf since xxx, taihen, no sex since xxx!
-(bow)
-let me ask h question, when you have BF, how many times you make love/week?
-Look, today you are wearing such short skirt [this section is action section]
when you go into the place
-dont you raise it up a little bit?
-We want to see your bra/panties, can you show us?
-hide face, 2 3 seconds, then finish
-go to private place a bit
c: dame
-2 3 seconds only
-one more thing, if its ok, one more favor
-xxxx bj (money)
-30 seconds only
-by mouth, get xxxx (money)
-just 30 seconds
-if bad ok, but it is cool
-you were very good, so go to studio/home/out/hotel, do sex
-but until now, did, so just a little bit more, widen a bit more
todays day
-just a little bit you have to do
c: really, only a little bit?
-yes, only a little bit
c: really, honto ni? doshoyo?
(bow)
-if yada, its ok, that can happen, done worry, you dont need to stay
(she doesnt decide, they take her)

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[get facts/screens/tests (get neccesary info on chick you never met before
not stable time situation yet.. get time to leave/next meeting test) - use
Kino!]
-Where are you going now? (on train, in street..etc)
-I am going to xxxx (after she answers, so you can control when you exit,
ie..after her)
-Do you work around here? (=see why she is here, house/office nearby?)
-My friend will come in 25 minutes, you seem nice, do you have 15 minutes to talk?
-Why did you come here today (=what are your interests?)
-What is your plan after this/tonight? (=does she have to leave soon?)
-I am meeting my friend in 20 minutes (check your phone)
-(if its going well, you can 'receive his message' that he is not coming and
continue PU, or bail in 20 minutes
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---->Made appt with chick and now she is in beer food pub/Izakaya sitting next
to you at a counter with you...start here!--------
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-What did you do today? (=what are your interests?)
-what time do you start tommorow (=see if you can get her back tonight!)
-what is job/where (=logistics for setting up lay tonight/next time)
-what area do you live (=logistics for setting up lay tonight/next time)
-your mom give you nice food and laundry each day? (=you live alone?)
-What are you doing here today/after this? (=does she have to leave soon?)
-Do you like beer, wine?
-how old are you, may I ask? (=only if you suspect underage, to get rid of her)
-Do you like to go out to restaurants, cofeeshops, or stay home?
-your voice/eyes/hair/style is pretty, what does your BF think? (=do you have BF)
-What do you do in your spare time?
-Do you do art, dance, movies, singing? (=test for 'communication' pattern below)

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

-office fight at work today [link to things that happened now]
-People want to understand each other, like guys and girls..its so hard, so
few men understand a lady, because they have to xxx,yyy,zzz
-Today/tomorrow I will go see art show/play/dance
-art/play/dance is communication
-I am meeting my friend tonight/tomorrow, he caught his GF with another guy
(go to straight to section of me -vis-a-vis a girl/demonstrate personality)
-Are you picky for clothes/bags/hairstyle
-How about guys
-Me too, hard to find good qualities, me, I look for someone who is...
-How about you, what do you look for?
-Grandfather/coworker who needs to relax
-Relaxation is important
-Understanding of other people is important
-Today a french guy came to the office from france branch
-Do you know that french is somehow more understanding language than english,
and better for expressing feelings
-language is communication, EC, body language
-stories about how I am attractive/women attack me (social proof) (link to me)
-(transition to demonstrate personality)
-went to brazil/SP story/cultural differences
-HB Blitz jealous story

-Do you have foreign friends? [Link to something persistant about her/me/environment]
-How are they different from Japanese?
(go to section of understanding/communication)
-That is nice hair/smile
-You are probably popular with the guys/get lots of attention
-So what is your guy life like?
-You have a BF?
-What kind of guy do you like?
-What parts of your job is creative?
-creativity is a way to communicate with other people.. it is like art
(go to demonstrate self personality section)
-What is important to you when doing adventure/romance with someone?
(go to demonstrate personality section of this plan)
-eyes are so warm (what does your BF/husband think?)
-Would you say you are adventurous or romantic type?
-Did you live overseas?/where/what did you notice?
-(go to section on different cultures/understanding each other)
-Do you like art?, it is way to express/share natural feeling/each other
-(transition to demonstrate personality)
-ideal actress/girl/guy
(move on to demonstrate personality from here, acting is communication)
-pretty girl (girls like this attention)
-Do you like it when someone says you are pretty/how do you feel?
(go to section on personality vis-a-vis a woman)
-Maybe you want to be independent and strong minded (though most chicks aren't anyways
in reality)
-It is good, because the qualities I look for in a woman are: (play back her
desired qualities in herself/ideal woman)
-Here maybe is a difficult question. Maybe next thing, hard to say
-Did you ever xxxx?
-The reason I ask, is because if you did do, I am curious about
how it made you feel, both during an after? / because people who
xxxx are also very yyyy.
c: yes/no
-If you didn't do xxxx, would you? What would you feel if you did?
-What color are your panties (only do if you are with a wing and laughing alot)
-Under that is only bra?
-(Transition to aggressive vis-a-vis a woman's sexuality section below)
-How you feel when you see this (picture)?
-(transition to demonstrate personality)

-Can you dance? [sexually aggressive transitions]
-Would you dance in that samba parade every year?
-Wear t-back and nice feathers and decoration, you have confidence for that?
-you ever dress a bit sexy, embarrassed about your appearance/confident?
-Do you have bed in your house or futon (I had in japan house)
-But I prefer bed, because it makes my knees hurt when I am with a girl, can
you imagine?
-Do you like long or short hair?
-I like short, because long, when you are with a girl, it will get stuck (during
sex), and hurt, but short, it never gets in the way.

[get feelings/screens/tests]
-You ever date a foriegn/blond/black/white/asian guy?
-How was it different?
-Do you like to kiss/kissing/touch/touching/hold hands
-Maybe because it makes you feel safe
-How big are your hands, lets see..
-what is most attractive/favorite part of your body you think? (what your bf say?)
-What part about yourself (character, body) do you like most? least? (=LSE test)
-if could do anything in 5 years, which?
-do you feel comfortable around me?
-which type of person do you think you are more, elegant or sexy?
-which you want to be? why?
-do you believe in magic?, speels, esp? (hypno voice)
-you are pretty, how many BF's you have? (say in joking way)
-Do you look for a BF/nice guy/friend?
-Do you think love is dangerous or attractive?
-If could redo life, what would you do? (link her not fucking, to her last screwup!)
-(stare at her bottom to top), Can you say what is your favorite part of your body?
-I am curious, (if she stalls: "maybe your smile, legs, hair") {mix nonsexuals with sexuals}
-if there were two you's what would the other one do? (stay with BF, be wild?)
-what is your ideal guy like?
-Which is important to you in a relationship, sex or romance?
-Do you have a BF
-[opener] Are you looking for a guy/friend tonight?
-Would you like to kiss me (after 3 + signs.. hair ruffle, smile, reverse kino, laughing)
-Why you are here tonight? [bad? she will always answer 'to dance']
-Are you looking to meet people tonight
-How do you feel when you meet new people?
-Strawberry fields (if you stall/reaction bad.. go to this!)
-If you could meet.. What kind of guy do you like?
c: I want just dance/be with my friend/just a friend
-I am looking for girl/GF, shall we try?
-(talking about kissing/holding hands..etc) shall we try?
-do you think you are the right girl for me?
-expand your world/horizon/limit
-So what kind of guy is your BF like?
-Can I ask, maybe deep question, but do you love yourself (=LSE test)
-c:yes: that is good because for others to love you, you must love yourself
-c:no: (change tact): you are scum so you need me and should fuck me, becauase that is what
scum cheap girls like you do (in SM voice), you deserve to get fucked cheaply because you
are cheap scum.. (that is the idea anyways.. will try it on my next LSE girl)
-what is your type of guy?/important in a guy?
-Did/would you ever xxx. The reason I ask is that a book/crazy
psych teacher.. said that people who are interested in xxxx (sm, 3p,
fucking on first date..) tend to be very yyyy (emotional, open minded,
successful, attractive, confident..) (idea is when asking an outlandish question
is to tie the reason for it to an emotion).
-ex GF who was kinky
-You look very pretty, were you ever hostess?
-If you could be very elegant or sexy dancer for one night, do you do it/what would it
feel like?

[anti-stalls/fluff runners - if you have met the chick once already and are
getting restarted with her this time]
-so what did you learn about/discover about me from last time?
-so what did you tell your friends about me snice last time?
-did you miss me?
-how much?
-so what did you dream last night?
-Maybe you dream about me?
-I bet you dreamed of me every night!
-pay attention to me..
-humm.. i work very hard just for you!
-(chick going to bathroom)
-have fun!
-did you have a good time?
-are you comfortable?
-I am curious, what about me is it that you find interesting?
-ok ask me something!
-many things to know is big, but brain is small.
-how I learn kanji, just each day they smile at me, and I learn them!
-wow, such big smile, what happen?
-I like you but I don't really know you very well
-I like you but I think you are too tall/a bit old for me.
-Maybe I have to protect my self from you!

[embarrass/flatter/make her smile - if dumb/young chick, you can be very
aggressive with this]
-you are pretty (joking way) - maybe I need to protect myself from you
-Good morning (or worse, hello) (as friend, using Mr. Smooth voice)
-you are so full of energy I would be honored to shake your hand!
-your hair/eyes is really beautiful
-you english is very good, I am SO impressed (laugh and kino her!)
-Japanese is zenzen.. kodomo.
-That bag/neckless/dress/top looks very nice on you and matches your
top/dress/neckless/bag well, you look SO very nice in/with it.
-you should make your skirt shorter (as joke if it is already so short)
-you have such a beautiful voice, it is so smooth and relaxing
-maybe you have alot of attention from guys? (smile) - maybe I need to protect myself
-sfields
-do you smile with every nice guy like you do to me?
-do you always laugh with everyone/every nice guy like that?
-you are pretty, maybe all your BF's say you are sexy!?
-you step in room, and all guys start to come to you!
-are you nice girl? - should I protect myself from you (gesture with defensive hands)?
-maybe you are too nice/(sexy) for me!
-sometimes a little bit bad can be fun too!
-Maybe your friends/coworkers tell you xxxx (you are pretty) all the time.
-Did anyone ever tell you your (hair/style/clothes) are so cute/sexy/attractive?
-handsome guy just sat next to you (when sit next to her again), what do you do?
-Hello, what is your name (after you already met her once)
-maybe i have to protect myself from you, (such attractive/nice/sexy girl)
-Oh, what a beautiful girl (kino, alot!) (after you already met her once)
c: xxx question
-maybe!? (smile face, eyes look up and right)
-I am sure all the guys bow to you, such beatufiul girl?
-everyone is always looking at you, giving you too much attention!
-I have to protect my self from such beautiful/horny girl like you!
-good style like that, all your friends get jealous to you!
-good looks like that, all the guys follow you everywhere!
c:I have a bf
-pretty girl like you, of course you must have 5 bfs!
-but I want to know more about you, so lets not talk about that
-so how many BF you have? (might be bad.. dont bring it up unless she does?)

[demonstrate personality about myself]
-you never know what can happen, that is what makes life so interesting and mysterious
-communication at many levels/dance/art is communication/talk only 10%
-I want understanding
-I like to feel comfortable
-I like natural way
-I am not like other guys.. natural
-I am valuable guy
-Just I want to have a good feeling / feel good
-just be kind to everyone, and naturally, good things can happen, it is my way
-When I see someone/something, just I follow my heart
-I am looking for a warm heart
-I am looking for understanding of each other
-people have trouble to get along, most guys never understand what is really important to others,
because the guy has to xxx,yyy and other person has to xxx,yyy (listen, feel, open mind/heart)
-it is important to want to explore and discover new things, about yourself, and others
-must do what feels right, and people trust you - company fight, everyone follow me
-levels of mind
-are you creative? (c:no)
-but everyone can be creative (c: ok)
-you have a very vivid imagination, and you love imagining things, but maybe you dont
express them, unlike creative people who do (rephrase all her values)
-talk about how everyone is creative
-like.. maybe each day as you do normal things like laundry, but you imagine if you
could be on the beach.. ... etc..mind has many levels
-sharing is important, it is way to understand each other
-Goal is to disover new things (together)
-just I want to feel comfortable, and relaxed
-everyone needs an oasis/place to escape
-maybe you like the smooth pace of my voice..
-trust is important, closeness, natural feeling is important
-And of course, we really have to love everyone and serve everyone in this life.
-I am not easy guy
-It is important to be kind, because I found that if I am kind, everyone will
be kind to me back, and and take care of me when times are hard. That is what
real trust is about.
-Must respect others
-I hate selfish people who want only attention to themselves, because just
then they end up alone because people can see their selfishness. It is not a
good way.
-I went to high school reunion, and had the most interesting life of all my
classmates
-I think, choose direction.. and GO. It is my way.
-(Never talk about 'relationship', (maybe she wants a ONS). Just talk about
'understanding, because every woman wants that!)
-I am looking for special/pretty/sexy/nice/relaxing girl tonight, I am picky

[demonstrate personality vis-a-vis me and a woman (nonsexually) - once you have run a few
lines of section above and reaction is good, start introducing lines from sections below]
-people have trouble to get along, most guys never understand what is really important to lady,
because the guy has to xxx,yyy and woman has to xxx,yyy (listen, feel, open mind/heart)
-When I see someone, just I know if she is right or not, naturally
-hard to find the right guy/hard to find the right girl too
-I have 3 qualities I look for in woman
-I am valuable guy, interesting, fun, physical shape, so my expectation is high
-I expect together to be comfortable, natural, and good feelings to each other
-ow (our world)
-It is important to respect each others limits, as well as understand each other well
-I want understanding of each other
-understanding is most important, comfort, communication
-Just I want to share our feeling with each other
-Only I want to relax and feel comfortable with each other
-I am searching for my special partner
-I want someone I can feel natural/share feeling/kinochi
-Men and women often have a hard time to understand each other, because each does
not know what is important to the other
-do you like a man who really knows how to treat a lady and can really
appreciate a woman?
-A man must pay attention to a chick, not only intimately, but also
emotionally, spirutually
-That is the man's job, to look after women in all these ways.
-It is the mans job to create a safe environment for all women, so that
they can feel comfortable, and free around me.
-I am picky guy, and will choose woman who is right for me
-Most men pay only attention to themself. But a good man will pay attention to the
woman completely, in mind (and body).
-sp story
-4q
-I am very open minded person, so you can say/ask anything
-ex bi gf
-I expect girl to take chance
-ic
-l vs -a
-People want to feel close to each other, not only by talk, but also by touch
-fascination
-ideal guy/girl
-I dont like fixed rules, just go the natural way, how you feel (ie. no 'the rules')
-Just it feels comfortable, nice to feel comfortable, make each other relax, feel safe and
comfortable
-by discovering things about each other, it helps me to learn/discover new things about
myself. That is why it is so important
-mans job is to deliver/make woman feel good, like at work..to deliver
-just has to be the right guy.. same for me with women
-not many guys can please a woman not only physically, but emotionnally too
-I understand that.. not many guys do..my Ex's always told me that.., so I am never dumped
-I dont respect (rules) girl, who says 'kiss on date 2, sex on date 5'.. just have to
follow natural way.. if faster ok, and if slower, ok, or just end up friends, or something
more.. just follow what is natural, is the best way. Otherwise, to want something, but
not follow, is disrespecting me (and herself).
-I want woman to be interested in me, and not because I have nice job. Because
in long term, physical beauty of the woman may fade, and I may lose my job.
So something deeper, like character, or connection, is far more important.
-I am dancer, and good guy, so just for sex, it is very easy to get any girl, so maybe I
am selfish, but I expect more than that.. just being cute is not enough for me, that is
everywhere, and I am past that now.
-I am expensive/picky guy, not so easy..I am 30YO, if I was 17, then I want to get as many girls
as possible maybe. I had those experiences. But soon it just gets boring, because there
is nothing deep as a connection or understanding, because that girl has no experiences
at all for life. So I want more. So if that is all you want, then 17yo guy is good for you,
because I want understanding and deeper things than those silly guys. Can you understand
what I mean?
-you dont know me at all (mysterious, attractive)
-I like women who follow their heart/natural way
-At my age, chicks want stability, money, so I need to protect myself.
-I want chick who wants me for who I am, not what I have.
-What if I lose my job and money tomorrow... sabishii.
-So I don't need that kind of girl.
-I hope I dont disappoint you with my thinking.
-If you want that, then I don't need it (turn away from he with my beer)
-Lead man, follow man or get out of way.. I dont respect non-chance takers who want somthing,
but arent willing to make the effort or chance to achieve/get it.
-I am not stupid roppongi guy, not like those stupid guys. I want to know people,
culture, so I make extra effort, but I have higher expectations too regarding understanding
each other when I am with someone.
-when a girl meet me, she gets fun, excitment adventure and passion.. I am confident
-I dont choose any/every girl, only one I can feel natural, if I cannot feel natural,
then I dont want.. just feel cold.. but if feel natural, and her too, then GO.
-I was never dumped, because I always pay attention to the girl's feelings/pleasure
-(CK chances)
-I am not just type who lives in Hiroo, play in Roppongi and work in Kamiyacho, it is
boring, I want to discover culture and people, so I live in Japanese house/life.
-My Ex(s) said I was best BF they ever had (caring, good man, sexy, attractive, suteki)
-meet girl, is to have exciting/happy together
-sometimes danger, but when really, actually is safe, that is important for me.
-You know the way xxxx (I am/it is/young girls/Ols) are,
always yyyy (touching girls and making them feel excited)
-Rocks & Gold (try not to use this pattern, unless PU not going well)
-not any girl, only one who is special, and very nice for me! (tschivoice)
-Did you ever feel you want to meet some one, that somehow, as you
talk to them more and more, they seem more interesting to you, and you want
to find out more and more about them. And maybe as you listen, you realize
how much you have in common, and want to get to know that person in front of
you more and more. if you could meet someone like that, what would it be like?
-all/some nice girl(s) are waiting for me!
-I want to meet interesting people, expand my world, and you?

[demonstrate personality via dance (or art/painting/singing/talking) - for girls who
can dance, like art, music, can sing.. or can appreciate these things]
-I took these, I am artist/photographer [Rio/NYC pics]
-How does this make you feel when you see this (picture)?
-Dance is a human expression of music, and a way for 2 people to share a unique way of
communication and feelings with each other at a deep level.
-art/singing is just feeling the natural way of expression, it is communication at many levels
between two people, the artist, and viewer/listener
-Dance is a kind of relationship. So the man must pace dance at the level of the woman,
else it feels bad. Even if the guy knows many techniques and skills, if he cannot pace
that to the woman, he is not a good dancer, because ultimately, dance is communication.
-Dance lead should be gentle, for woman who is good to follow, and harder for woman who cannot.
Idea is to communicate at proper level to that woman, and she should look him in the eye,
and communicate back by her touch, and her natural following.
-Dance; some women follow natural, others are more stiff, and follow only themself with their
body. But it doesn't lie, and you can tell far more about a person by how they dance in 1
minute, than by talking with them for 1 hr. (or holding, hands, touching, hugging, also
faster than talking.. that is why it is an important aspect of forming understanding with
each other and is so natural).
-Ie. guydancer, idea is to make the woman look good, not yourself. That is misunderstanding
your job in relationship to the woman.
-Talk is communication, between 2 people, EC, Body language, where looking, tonality.. all
it is important, not only words themselves.. words is only 10%.

[NLP injections]
-sometimes you/everyone feel lonely
-but if you stay with me, it can feel very comfortable/secure and special
-sometimes you/everyone want to feel comfortable and free
-sometimes you/everyone want to feel special
-sometimes you/everyone want to be paid attention to
-sometimes you/everyone want to just relax and forget about all your problems
-sometimes you/everyone want to try something new, expand your world
-sometimes you/everyone want to have a bit of excitement
-sometimes you/everyone does something they don't expect, but are glad they did
-sometimes you/everyone want to escape from daily boring life, just for a while
-sometimes you/everyone want to go to a seperate world
-no one/you don't want to be/feel rejected
-you/everyone is looking for something
-people like attention, to be touched, feel secure (still holding)
-So why do you see me?
c: xxx
-Maybe it is because of yyyy (you like an interesting person who can lead you,
feel comfortable with)
-maybe you cant pay attention to your work because you think of me every minute!
-maybe always you hear and enjoy the sound of my voice!
-maybe you want to kiss a nice guy like me.
-Ok, I let you, but here only (gesture CK)
-Allright, a real one.. (gesture KC, finger on her lips)
-Why dont you spend some time with me, expand your world!
-you keep listening to me, maybe you fall in love with me!
-lets be friends
-having a close friend and trust, it is very important
-can you say a fairy tale
-No, ok, well, lets try.. of course it starts with a castle, and a
princess (gesture to her), and a king (if she has BF), and a
handsome prince (gesture me), who takes the princess out of the
boring castle, to have excitement in the forest around (start with
describe her current situation, and then describe what you want her
to do, as the princess)

[kino tricks]
-What color are your nails (touch hands), do they match your feet?
(touch legs).
-Wow, your skin is so smooth, and size of your fingers (hold hands)
-Your hands, (they look so small! (compare size) )
-how/where do you like to be touched (feel secure, comfortable)?
-you like to be touched like this?
-touch arms
-touch hair (my feeling now is to touch your hair, can I?) (while you already started)
-hold
-hug
-touch hand
-touch face (my feeling now is to touch your face, can I?)
-touch neck back
-gesture a CK
-touch ears/front of neck
-kiss forhead/neck/ears
-breath her neck, forhead, ears
-hold chin, stare down & move in
-touch lips with your finger (does she draw away?)
-KC (can do most of above steps without saying any word (better not to..
..because you won't activate chick brain #1 if you keep your mouth shut and
KC will be much more easy to reach (ie. in dance club))
???insert KC steps from dance night (salsa party)???? from diary to this line????

[demonstrate personality and SOI vis-a-vis a woman's sexuality - if dumb/young chick,
can be very aggressive with this]
-hb blitz bar attack, but have/was with my GF, so rejected her
-I like Japanese/office/career/blond/artist girls because they are very sensual, and warm
-Japanese/office/career/blond/artist girls are excellent lovers because they know how to value
the special intimacy???xlate
-Just I want 'skinship'
-expect progress from next date to next date, don't want to be played either..
-I like romantic/adventurous women
follow natural way, and then it is OK even if you do.. no artificial limits
-I like women who follow their heart/passion/feelings, daiji
-it is obvious women want to be seduced
-it is obvious women want adventure/excitment
-it is obvious women want to feel sexy
-Any woman who goes out with me, will be glad she did
-I dont get sex, we share sex/communiate feeling.. that is point of sex, not just physical
-sex is just way to reach your mind, in itself, sex is nothing, without the mental communication
-I like a woman who is attractive and takes care of herself
-ever have a ONS/sex first meeting, every girl had ONS (ArtBabe pattern), just it is normal
-What makes a woman sexy is not what you show, but what you dont show.. that is very
sensual..
-I never push anyone to do anything they dont want, just hug, its ok., just follow natural
way., just comfortable communication, is all I want
-So do you like guys, what do you like?
-I like pretty girls
-It is important to respect each other after sex
-Sex is good, because sometimes people need to relieve their stress, feel refreshed (by sex)

[Demonstrate personality regarding excitement/adventure, possibly she has BF/husband she wants
to keep]
-live life only 1 time, so need to try something new, expand your world, take a chance
-life is adventure
-You only live one time, so don't want to miss the chance
-it is important to be open minded, and think first, but willing to take chances
-OW
-You are very attractive and sexy girl
-Do you like to feel sexy/attractive
-I really like you, beautiful woman
-For me it is simple, I don't expect so much
-I had a married/girl with BF before, so I understand that. It was nice, because I was
in London, she had husband she loved, but looked for something a little different, to
escape.
So we knew what the expectations were, and we had a very nice time together, because
we understood each other, and what we could expect, just natural understanding of
each other.
-I dont care about your BF/husband, that is your seperate life and is not important
to me at all
-Just when we are with each other, I want us to pay attention to each other (kino)
-When I am with you I will give you all my attention, and I want you to give your all
your attention when you are with me.
-Can you do that for me?
-I am very simple guy, that is all I am asking for
-There is no other expectation than that, just follow natural way and communicate with
each other when we are together.
-Your other world is there, and this world is with us.
-Do you understand me?
-There is alot you don't know about me, I am still maybe somehow very interesting or mysterious
to you.
-But that is good, it is what makes life exciting, and is the spice to add to a normal
day to day life.. it is so exciting, isn't it.
-Maybe you want to find out more about me, or escape from your regular world, and have a
special adventure, share it with me.
-Do you think that you are elegant or sexy
-What if you had the chance to explore that further, would you like that chance?
-Ex gf who was bi, it was such interesting world, but different, so I learned to be open
minded. I learned alot about women, from her
-All my ex's said I was the best guy they ever met.
-Everyone wants to have fun, smile, be happy and just relax and relieve stress.
-Sometimes just it is nice to escape
-It is exciting to do something a bit unusual, or risky that you are usually 'not allowed'
-But then that is what makes it so attractive, isn't it
-You want to feel good, everyone wants to feel good, feel refreshed
-It is human, everyone played/had affair.. if not I can't believe, everyone did,
just it is normal/human
-Maybe you just needed a new and different strange experience.

-Do you like sex? [if it is going well, continue this section, very direct about sex]
-Did you ever come?
-How does it feel when you come?
-You like that don't you?
-It feels good, doesn't it, to feel that pressure in your body, and then it
explodes in excitement and pleasure
-HB physics close
-when was the last time you got excited, tell me about it."
c: (description)
-Of course you obviously want to be excited and that a similar experience might help.
-(jokingly) I would help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, you
could of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times that
night already.
-But I am completely confident that if you would only let me change the venue/relax
I would excite you without a doubt.
-I mean, how am I going to excite you in this damn playground/coffeeshop/without your
help
-You live close to here, and if we were at your place/if we try I could at least
give you a nice massage and try to get you excited there.
-And that would feel good no matter what the outcome, right?
c: yes
-Yes, you are right.
-(shut the fuck up, grab her and take her to your place)
-(start massage)
-Now, to lead to exitement for both of us I would take off your top and bra
-(take them off, continue massage, get more sexual, fuck

[Out of time closes - new chicks]
::IF OUT OF TIME DURING THIS MP, ATTEMPT FOLLOWING RE-MEET CLOSES
(Need 15 minutes of talk (25 is better) to demonstrate enough personality that
I can meet her again that night/tomorrow. For a phone/email close 20 (30..40 is
better) is required).
-Best is to do all in 1 shot (see if you can get her to stay)
-Do a 1..2 minute routine that will demonstrate personality and SOI..FAST
before forced close (ie. leaving train/friends arriving in 1 minute).
-It is funny, that we can meet like this, talk like this so naturally, it is
so rare to just feel comfortable with someone so quickly and be able to
communicate so well. I don't know you so well yet, but you seem to be a nice
person and maybe I can trust you. Would you like to meet again and talk some
more (about xxx (common thing)).
-But I only want to make arrangements if really you want to see me, so I
will ask you again, do you want to see me?
-you are very pretty and sexy I want to see you again
-(try THEN to get a KC, or at least a CK)
-(Next best is to set next date RIGHT THEN for that night/next day
-What are you doing tomorrow/next Monday? (=go for close NOW, no phone/mail shit)
-I want to talk with you more, what day is free for you
-xxx time/place
-See you then.
-(Next best is email/phone (chances are very dwindled at this point!, use mail for next appt,
phone is too high chance to get her at wrong time, or look like stalker trying to reach her)
-(Want to close with something in common
-(Before close, some joke about how she is woman/attractive/interesting/comfortable/relaxing
(the SOI basically)
-please come with me to xxxx (that coffee shop/ my place) and we talk about 20 minutes
-We should stop standing here, and go sit down at the xxx coffee/family restaurant
that is down there (point) and talk some more
-How do we meet again?
-Exchange number (not important, just do it for next step)
-When are we going to meet (see TPUA hairchick lay report (she gave number,
so presupposition that she will meet you is now made)
-what is your free day?
-shall we meet at my place, or xxx Restaurant? (another presupposition)
-What time/meeting place
-Listen, you seem really cool, and I would love to hang out with
you sometime and BE FRIENDS".
-What are you doing tomorrow/tonight?
-I need to buy some shirts, why don't you come with me (mystery style)
::END IF

[move in closer/accelerate]
-you seem very warm/passionate/creative, I can see it in your eyes
-you are so beautiful
-you look so sexy
-try something new, expand your world!
-sometimes, someone/something mysterious can (feel a little dangerous) be very attractive
-Maybe it is fate.. because we seem to share so much in common. It is my first time.
But it is always best to follow fate, and what naturally follows from it.. 1 bn ppl..
it is more than chance, so must take it.
-you are so comfortable to spend time with, I can feel so natural and relaxed somehow
-you are cute like cat (then move to head/neck/ear kino)
-somehow we feel so comfortable around each other
-maybe you are too nice girl for me?
-can I trust you
-your hair is very gentle (touch it, along with neck)
-do you like it when I touch you?
-you are very pretty and sexy, pretty, really (honto ni), cannot believe
-you might ask me why I like you/want to see you.. because you are warm, and
comfortable to spend time with
-can I trust you?
-I want you to trust me, I want you to do that for me..
-I want you to follow me
-did anyone ever tell you you are so beautiful?
-it gets more fun/interesting/exciting if you hang around me, you will enjoy, I am sure
-if you have sex with a guy you really like, but is a bit mysterious how does it feel?
(she should say yes), Maybe you feel connection, exciting, physical pleasure, which one is
most?

[tests to see if interest]
-are you happy to see me tonight?
-maybe I can trust you? (see her reaction to saying this)
-if you met great guy, do you take chance with him?
-you ever feel alone?
-Do you take a chance with me?
-Can I take a chance with you?
-did you ever xxx (kiss a guy on first evening).
-Just it is natural, because just it feels right.
Maybe the reason is because people who are/do xxx
(KC/open mind right away) tend to be very yyyy (passionate/trustable).
-I cannot let you kiss me, I hardly know you (can I trust you?)
-OK I try (a CK gesture)
-A real one (KC touch her lips with finger gesture)
-do you like to be touched? (like this (leg), or like this? (neck) )
-do you like to be held/hugged?
-what did you learn about me tonight (see what she says)
-it is my feeling, I would like to touch your hair/face/neck/lips, is it ok? (J.I. did this to me)
-you said you are excitment/adventure type, lets see if it is true, lets try a little
adventure.. do you like (kino, touch neck) this?, (gesture for CK).
-do you want to kiss me?
-you want to spend time with me?
-My feeling is I would like to hug/hold you
-I would like to feel closer to each other
-I would like to feel to know each other more deeply
-unusual to meet like this, but somehow we feel so comfortable, it is very unusual/strange/nice
-you seem to be very unusual, very special, and attractive
-unusual how we can get to know each other so naturally, and feel so comfortable
-1bn ppl pattern
-everyone wants a bit of excitement? I dont know if it will be long term romance, but if you let me change
venue, we can try and in any case I am sure I can give you excitment. and at worst case, you will have
gotten good massage in safe trusting environment with no pressure. (be persistant, and loop around
this plan coming back to here if at first fail!)
-(IF RESISTANCE:) I want you to really take a chance with me, I guarantee, you wont regret,
just I want you to trust me. (and loop with above),
-I am valuable/expensive guy, are you valuable girl? good enought for me?
IF INTEREST (ie. enough yeses to more than 1 question in this section), THEN EXIT LOOP

[kc/close - get at least 3 of these to work]
-do you like me : KC
-touch neck/ears, kiss them, then KC
-I would like to get to know you more, I want you become closer to each other, can you follow me?: KC
-I can only bring you if I can trust you, can I trust you? :KC
-So do you like me?
-Lets go for a walk/go
-I am hungry/tired/smoky/lets go for a walk/eat/coffee/dance/show pictures/draw/spend time together now, (then to
home asap after that) (BE PERSISTANT!)
-dance/art is my way to express, I want to dance one dance/share art with you, right now that is my feeling, and
what I want to share so much. Just 20 minutes, then leave, I am relaxing comfortable guy, I think I can trust you.
-(As long as the body is not saying no, IGNORE THE MOUTH AND KEEP PUSHING!)
-I have never kised a xxx (garlic girl, bug), I want to
-shall we try.. (gesture/take chin)
-You never kissed a french guy/xxx
-shall we try (gesture, take chin)
-I want you

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

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EVASIVE ACTION.. (ie, if it is not working out, try stuff from here)

[Statement of Intent / Expectations - handling slow chicks/indecisive chicks/bullshit]
-(Try to feel up/KC, but not getting anywhere)
-(kink action to be ok due to enivornmental factor (Folgers in TG)
-Usually of course you dont do this, but here in this environment, we can relax, so it is OK/acceptable
..when the chick is doing like HBsexyMadam, warm, good EC, but not much sexual/reverse kino going on/KC/CK/a bit
sexual (legs..etc) touching major resistance/roadblocks]
-Rocks and Gold story
-Sex and intimacy is part of any healthy relationship. I expect a woman to understand
that and act accordingly, or her existance in my life will soon finish/is very short/
is at risk/will soon cease to exist.
-I have no intent on being any lady's girlfriend.
-No good guy is going to wait around a woman who is indecisive, or doesn't take the chance
when it is given to her
-I expect progress from meeting to meeting
-I expect that sex/intimacy will happen after we spend some time to know each other,
but I don't tolerate indecisive women.
-I get to know you, you get to know me, and then we decide to take a chance to start
a relationship. That is the way it works.
-I have no intention to wait 6 months while you 'get to know me' before deciding to
start a relationship.
-That is the same as if I were to tell you to have sex with me for 6 months so I can
decide if we have a relationship, and then we can go to dinner/walks..etc. of course
it is ridiculous.. well so is the above, and no good man is going to accept that,
just it is selfish..
-When was last time you had sex? (note, she might lie in her answer)
-Should just say sex is normal part of human expression, so need to accept that as OK
-Anyone who doesnn't of course is liar
-I want respect when I am with a lady, I want her to feel free to express herself completely with me.
-I want you to do that with me.
-Do you respect me, I want you to show that for me, now take a chance
-It is normal for people to enjoy touching, holding, EC, as it is also communication.
-If you try, I am confident that you will enjoy a better time, and it will make me feel more relaxed too
that you are having a good time.
-Of course you want excitement, dont you. So if you relax, I can help you feel more excited and relaxed
-When you take a chance, usually good things happen
-AI movie pattern.. like forever and forever,
-You will get old soon, lose youth soon forever and ever, so must take
chances now, while still can, or they are gone forever.. you are old,
youth is gone
-I don't need any girl who wants to treat me as their girlfriend. I expect more respect than that
-TC girl who didn't understand why I blew her out for being selfish
-Ldn J-girls (both of them) who I blew out for being selfish
-I am valuable too, can get attention from lots of girls.. so I have expectations.
-KC, holding is natural communication, and I expect it, or it means our communication is not honest, and
not complete.
-I don't meet girls again who are cold, or don't show me that they appreciate being around me with their
warmth (and not just talk), just I feel cold
-I am not GF's to women, I don't waste my time with that
-Story of virgin, and try to fuck her, or dump her for disrespect/selfishness
]

[Random things]
(what do to if she starts to run away/ice up/freak out)
-but your doing nothing?
-I am just trying to talk to you, is that so crazy?
-Please just a moment
-no, I dont give emails/phone numbers, we have to meet now, I dont want a relationship
with my answering machine/computer
-stay a moment, dont run away
-we dont have lie face
-lets just try a little
-soon finish, then ok
-I want to sit at the counter, I dont like tables, it reminds me of 'interview style',
but I want relaxed way
c: this is too fast
-I can wait for you, but I cannot commit to only you while I wait (RedCherrySockBabe close)
-So if you want me to wait for you, you need to show me some commitment today, then
I can wait for you (works great when you are going on a real (or imaginary) trip).
-Turn away with your back, and your drink
-"I am going home", gesture to leave (jokingly)
c: I have a BF
-that's great!
-its really great when your with a guy who will really listen and appreciate your
opinions.
-When are you planning to get married?
c: (She changed subject after an errrr.)
-just once, very easy, ok? lets go?
c: (cant decide face)
c: no
-(gently takes her by the shoulder)
c: (cant decide face)
-(nudge her) lets go!
-(chick goes with them)
-not here
c: you're here just to pick up chicks, arent you..
-'to tell you the truth, yes, i did go there to meet people but a pretty face
-isn't enough for me....I actually have three qualities I look for in a woman.....'
-(WHAM, now were both talking about relationships and what we both look for in a
guy/girl)
-no obligation

-we go to top of building/my place/back there where no one see
-easy to go? 15 minutes
-just a moment, dont go
-just 3 seconds / 5 minutes
-please stop
-please talk to me
-but your doing nothing?
-only short time, even leave early, still I buy you coffee
-what time?
-a bit early isnt it?
-{if chick gives excuse you cant evade, repeat unrelated request
(state break), or change topic/ask question, or say 'its my feeling xxxx to yyyy'
c: ok, just a bit
-just a moment 1 minute
-just one minute
-just a short bit of time, then finish
-I wont eat you
-no one will know
-everyone needs an oasis
-lots of girls pay attention to me, but I am expensive guy, so I expect more than
just a cute girl.. that is so empty
-but until now, you did/we talked alot, so just a little bit more, widen a just bit more
todays day/experience
-just a little bit you have to do
-yes, only a little bit
-if yada, its ok, that can happen, done worry, you dont need to stay
-(she doesnt decide, they take her)
-(on way to studio, repeating) just a moment, short time
c: I'm engaged to someone right now/have BF
-Yes, I'm seeing someone else as well (used on psychicbabe!)
-When will you marry him?
-(talk/inquire about troubles in relationship)
-that's ok, I don't replace boyfriends, but they can be forgotten when they're not around
-(I pace) I say 'you can't believe I'm saying these words to you, can you'
-She agrees and says 'Yeah, you're direct and you don't waste time do you?' (now she's
getting calmer)
-Then I go into 'Yes, you're right. Bc most guys in here will fool around and waste
-time and chicken out. I don't have time for that and I don't fool about, I'm not
-interested. Besides, most guys in here (as I gesture away) simply don't have the balls
-to say what I say' she nods.
C:'I'm sorta seeing someone' excuse, so I used
-'hmm, you sound enthusiastic about him'.
-just a couple minutes chat.. can be relaxing/raku, its fun to talk!.. I am not going
to eat you! (well, I will..but dont tell her! hahaha!)
-Just I am like child sometimes, but it is nice.

[Last gasp, nothing is really working, but she is warm, but not sexual at all.]
-Situation: warm, but walls for sexual, still wants to see you.
-After all the above stuf has been tried, attempt the following
-work talk
-I got nanpa from salsa club (social proof/transition), she wanted massage, or maybe
just sex, but then after it is boring/wasting time, but sometimes ok depending my
mood.
-but what is important is how you treat each other after sex
-failed KC...
-you might take a chance, you see me often, but expand your world..
-Demonstrate personality (copmany fight, new job/appt/success in saving corp money)
-Excitement as teenager
-Kino/hold hand (as teenager)
-Massage talk
-KC, try? (as teenager)
-HB physics close (change venue, like excitment)
-happy to just be other woman.. you are free, try something new
-spend private time together
-castle fairytale
-succeed or bail
-Just I want 'skinship'
-expect progress from next date to next date, don't want to be played either..
-or just I get another woman
-chick who always tried to change date (london j-girl), at last minute, so I
dumped her.. lots of pretty girls around, I respect myself.
-I like romantic/adventurous women
follow natural way, and then it is OK even if you do.. no artificial limits
-I like women who follow their heart/passion/feelings, daiji
-I like a woman who/it is obvious women want to be seduced
-I like a woman who/it is obvious women want adventure/excitment
-I like a woman who/it is obvious women want to feel sexy
-It is important to respect each other after sex
-Sex is good, because sometimes people need to relieve their stress, feel refreshed!
-can you do me a favor, take a chance with me, touch my belly.. change venue
-my ex's said I was best guy they ever met
-what you do when you meet nice guy
-I give massage, passion, heat, special time and connection
-Do you like sex? [if it is going well, continue this section, very direct about se!
-Did you ever come?
-How does it feel when you come?
-You like that don't you?
-It feels good, doesn't it, to feel that pressure in your body, and then it
explodes in excitement and pleasure
-HB physics close (credit: TPUA)
-when was the last time you got excited, tell me about it."
c: (description)
-Of course you obviously want to be excited and that a similar experience might h!
-(jokingly) I would help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, you
could of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times that
night already.
-But I am completely confident that if you would only let me change the venue/rel!
I would excite you without a doubt.
-I mean, how am I going to excite you in this damn playground/coffeeshop/without !
help
-You live close to here, and if we were at your place/if we try I could at least
give you a nice massage and try to get you excited there.
-And that would feel good no matter what the outcome, right?
c: yes
-Yes, you are right.
-(shut the fuck up, grab her and take her to your place)
-(start massage)
-Now, to lead to exitement for both of us I would take off your top and bra
-(take them off, continue massage, get more sexual, fuck
-unusual to be comfortable like this..maybe fate?
-dance/art is my way to express, I want to dance one dance/share art with you, righ!
what I want to share so much. Just 20 minutes, then leave, I am relaxing comfortab!

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3p Lay Report! Maniac does a street PU and threesome!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Maniac does a street PU and threesome!  3p report!

I dont much write lay reports anymore, as they are all pretty much the same, and
formula based. Now the research is on to more interesting things.. like 
threesomes!!

Recently, I got together my first 'unplanned' threesome, with 2 chicks that
had never done one. Here is the report, and how I got it set up to happen!

The 2 chicks are Bibabe (she likes girls), and HBExciteMe (she likes anything
as long as it is on edge and exciting, be it bar fights, or inpulsive 
threesome with her acquantances she doesn't know real well).

I had known Bibabe for a few months, and already fucked her with a standard
new Maniac Plan lay routine. During a drinking pubnight I was debriefing her
and kidded her about a cute girl nearby, and that she should 'try her out',
as 'only a woman really knows how to treat a woman'. 

This is a test I used to see if she was bi/bicurious. She joked back 'maybe
I should take the chance!'. This is good (even as a joke), as non bi-curious
chicks will just react (blech! I like guys). Later that evening, the 'target'
went to the bathroom, and I suggested to Bibabe, 'here is your chance', go
see if she wants to go out with us after.    .. and Bibabe just got up, and
followed her in the bathroom! (no hesitation, anything!). Unfortunately,
when she got there, she stalled out, and didn't know what to say/how to
execute the PU.

Still, this was good, because it told me that: 
1)I got a bi-curious chick
2)She may have no experience, and is an AFC when it comes to PU.. but 
 she is not afraid, and is willing to try stuff on command... very very good,
 as I will be able to work with this.

I debriefed her some more after this later that evening, and she did say
that she was a bit curious about cute girls, but had never tried anything.
I jokingly suggested that I will help her get one, and she jokingly agreed.
(using 'jokes' in this way is a good way to 'test' people for unusual
preferences, as they can always back down and say they were 'joking' if they
feel threatened, but will play with the 'joke' otherwise. 

Ie. if you ask a Bi-curios chick directly 'Are you Bi', she will get defensive,
and say 'no', but if you kid about it the way I did above, if she goes
along with it, then it is her way of communicating (in a less risky way),
that she is possibly interested in what you are proposing. 

Then I told her my story about my ex-gf who was bi, and how she was so cool
and fun. That made it clear to her, that I accept such people, and that she
can feel more comfortable around me to talk about such things..

Same goes for talks about kink, group sex...whatever, use the same method
above if you want to get a chick into those topics/test for interest.

So, that evening, I told her, that I would do the PU for her, and to watch
me. So I go to the target, tell her that my GF and I like her, and want
her to come out with us for a pint after this party is over. The target says 
'OK'! The party ends, and we go up as a group, but the target's AFC friends
pull her away. The target was looking for reassurance from Bibabe (and not
just me, since it is more secure to have it coming from the girl, not the guy),
but Bibabe, being an AFC, failed to do this, so she left.

--
Fast forward to another pubnight a month later, different groups of friends.
We have some pints, and I joke to Bibabe, that 'I need to teach you how
to pick up a woman, because you ladies always have it just easy, and just
wait for the guys to come along, and do all the work'. Bibabe then asks me,
ok, teach me then. 

I then go into ASF/AFC basic training (ie. like what you see in my nMP/lay
reports on pickupguide.com) with her, and tell her what to do/not do. She
is very fascinated by it all.

Another month goes by, I meet her some times to fuck her, and joke about
getting her a nice girl, and she goes along with the joking. 

Then last week, another pubnight and dance at a nightclub in down, and I
run into Bibabe by chance in the place with her friends. We dance for a bit,
and I decide that I want to fuck Bibabe, so I extract her from there (no 
problem, since I already fucked her before).

We are then walking down the street to get a bite, and she runs into a
chick (HBExciteme) on the sidewalk that she sort of knew from the nightclub,
one of her friend's friends or something. She is very cute and sexy.

First I thought...shit.. now we are stuck with her fucking friend all night,
and I can't get bibabe home...   that thought lasted about.... 10 seconds..
then I thought.... THREESOME!!!!

From my chats with Bibabe, I knew that she would be willing to try something,
but probably AFC out, so I would need to direct everything so it wouldn't
fuck up. Thats ok though, I am a PUA, have experience, and had been working
on a threesome/3p PU plan (still very experimental), so no problem.

Also, this situation was better than the last time with the other target, 
because there were no other friends around to distract us, just me, Bibabe, and 
HBExciteme as the target we would gang up on to try to take home and fuck
together.

The basic plan was:
-get the 3 of us together in an Izakaya/beer pub, sitting down, in a way
 that the 2 chicks can pay attention to each other, and I am close enough to
 direct it.
-get HBExciteme to feel comfortable around Bibabe
-get them both to my place
-fuck them both

The place where we were was Roppongi (part of Tokyo), which these days,
has been totally infested by these illegal migrant Nigerian guys that 
always 'attack' single guys walking down the sidewalk, and try to drag 
them into expensive hostess clubs. So I first kid about this, and ask
each girl to 'protect me from them', and hold each of my hands out to
each girl.. each girl (Bibabe did first, and then social proof kicked in,
and HBExciteme took the other one) takes one of my hands. So now Kino has
already started, only 1 minute into the PU..cool. 

This is a trend the whole night actually, using one girl you already laid 
(Bibabe) as social proof/trendsetting to make the other girl (HBExciteme) 
do what I want, since now psychologically, it is 2 against 1, so social
pressure forces come much more into play against the target (especially
when one of us doing the PU is also a chick ('good cop' effect), than if it is
just you alone, against a target chick.

So the next thing I did was take them to a quiet beerpub (it is now 1am
now) in Roppongi, where I was. Usually, when I am one on one, I choose places
with counters, but this time, since there are 3, I wanted a table, so that
the 2 chicks could see each other, and I could direct it/be in earshot of both
at the same time. So a counter wouldn't work in this case.

Once we got in there, I sat down next to Bibabe (so I could hold her, feel
her up/get her excited, and also tell her what to do/say to the target, 
HBExciteme), and had HBExciteme sit directly facing Bibabe the other side
of the small table. 

From here, some regular nMP stuff on HBExciteme (job, tired, like beer?).

Then I ask into the ear of Bibabe (sitting next to me), "so do you like her?".
She whispers back "yes". I reply to her, "OK, just do what I tell you", and 
I start the PU.

Now what I do, is pay most of my facial/verbal attention to HBExcite me,
across the table, while visibly kino'ing Bibabe (holding her leg.., being
very physically close, tonguedowns to bibabe in front HBExciteme) 
The goal is to make HBExciteme a bit physically aroused and jealous
by the show in front of her, and then letting her release that, by allowing
her to give/express attention (to Bibabe) at a moment I decide later on when
I want to close the PU.

Now I begin... After a few 'cheers' of beer, and kino'ing/KC'ing Bibabe
I get things deeper with HBExciteme by asking her (see nMP for this and
other routines, on my www.pickupguide.com homepage) "So tell me HBExciteme,
are you the type who likes romance, or the type who likes excitement?"
(the goal here, is to ask a double bind question, with the answer I want/expect
to be the last choice).

As expected, HBExciteme replies "excitment, definately excitement". Ok,
so far so good (I turn and KC Bibabe in front of her). Now I play the
strawberry game with HBexciteme (see webpage for it). Her answers are
fence: 1 meter
# of berries: don't care at all/not so much
feeling to farmer: nothing special/don't care

This was interesting, as it wasn't really any response at all to the game.
In retrospect, this is what HBExciteme was like though overall. Not very
reactive/proactive to anything, but on the other hand, anything that might
happen (ie. getting fucked later that night), is ok, and whatever happens
just happens and that is OK with her.

Now I take the hand of HBExciteme (it was on the table in front of me),
and remark on how small and gentle it is, and the nailcolor (red), and
how it matched those of Bibabe (was also red). Then I put both their hands
together, to compare each other's color and size. HBExciteme didn't retract
at this point, which was a good sign.

Now I decide to let them get to know each other a bit without me, and get
comfortable in that girls only way. So I say "I am going to the bathroom,
but will be back, you two wait here for me", and then I take each of their
hands, and put Bibabes hand on top of HBExciteme's hand on the table, and
leave them that way when I get up to go to the bathroom.

I get back, and Bibabe is still holding HBExciteme's hand while talking to
her... very very good sign!

I sit down, and then seperate their hands, and take each girls hand in each
of my hands, so I am holding both of them.. still no bad reaction from
HBExciteme (now she is happy to not be getting left out of all the kino
I figure, and probably is happy that Bibabe is sharing me with her so she
doesn't feel like the '3rd wheel' anymore)... so far so good.

I ask Bibabe again (confirm), "you like her"? Bibabe: "yes". ... good too.

I now ask HBExciteme "so what is your type of guy"? She tells me a guy
who leads, and otherwise OK. Sounds good. At that point, HBExciteme takes
her leg, and puts it on top of mine under the table (while I am still
holding the hands of both girls).

This my friends, is the closing sign! HBExciteme, accepts Bibabe, and wants
to fuck me, and Bibabe is also in on it. Cool!

I say "lets go" (I *do not* say where we are going, and neither girl asks me).

We get down to the street (I take hand of each girl again, in the street, 
like before), and I flag a taxi. I still don't say where we are going, and
neither girl asks (well, Bibabe knows what will happen, and HBExciteme
seems to have figured it out without anyone telling her explicitly ;-)  ).

We get in the taxi, and I sit in the front seat, and put the 2 girls in the
back. I expect.. (and am not disappointed from how I saw Bibabe with HBExciteme
in the pub) Bibabe to start to kino and feelup HBExciteme in the back of the
cab. Needless to say I am not disappointed, I trained Bibabe well for this
mission in the past month.. that taxi driver must have been surprised by
what he saw in the mirror though!

It was a nice sight to watch that all the way home, and the taxi driver,
like a good mannered Japanese staff to his clients, feigned ignorance of the
whole thing ;-), courteous and restrained right to the end of the trip.

We get to my house and I worry that if a freakout will happen, it will be
here, and that HBExciteme will insist to stay in the living room, or something.

So what I did, is take HBExciteme's hand (and not Bibabe), so she gets the
special attention (for now), and take her up to my room. Bibabe is behind
(and in on the scam), and says nothing/looks calm to HBExciteme. I leave
HBExciteme in the room by herself, and I go down to Bibabe downstairs.

At this point, HBexciteme might not know if we were going to stay there,
so that way she cannot freak out, that was the intent of doing it this way.

A couple minutes later, Bibabe and I come up. We are both happy to see
that rather than sleep in all her clothes, HBExciteme has stripped down to
her Tback Thong bikini, and is lying down on the futon waiting for us;
just relaxed.  Wow! That was very cool..

Bibabe and I strip down, and get in the futon next to her (arent tatami
rooms great! room for all!).

I start touching/feeling up HBExciteme a bit, and she doesnt react bad at all,
just she lets me do it, and makes erotic sounds as I reach into her
private places, and she starts shrieking and wriggling all around.

Now here though, is where things got a little edgy.. because this made
Bibabe a bit jealous. Bibabe is cute, but HBExciteme is definately a
babe, very sexy, and attractive, especially wearing only that Tback Thong.
Bibabe somehow, was uncomfortable about this, and was getting a bit irritated
when I gave attention to HBExciteme.

So I stopped playing with HBExciteme, and fucked Bibabe silly instead, with 
HBExciteme next to me (she didn't mind this at all, it turns out).

After that was done, I hugged them both, and played with them both a bit.
Bibabe still got a bit irritated when I would give attention to HBExciteme,
and then decided she wasn't interested in HBExciteme as much anymore.
I told Bibabe that I wanted to fuck HBExciteme, and that she was really
sexy looking (Bibabe agreed, and that I think also irritated her a bit
it turns out). 

I suggested to Bibabe that I got her this nice woman for the evening, and
she is game on, so why doesn't she try her out. But she didn't want to
anymore, besides what she did to her in the cab, and when we first got in
the house.

HBExciteme, heard all this whispering, but was just relaxed about it, lying 
on the bed with her thong.

Bibabe finally said that I should fuck HBExciteme, so I did in the morning.
She was a good fuck, very sexy..babe. (I didn't know her name though,
still, as it was Bibabe's friend's friend, and I had forgot the name she
said in the bar). SHe works out or something, very firm body, no fat, sexy
and curvy in all the right places.... babe.

I could touch HBExciteme/do her anywhere, no resistance, just
shaking and erotic sounds as I did her. The only thing is HBExciteme didn't 
want me to kiss her on the lips, but anything else licking/feeling up/fucking 
related was totally OK and uninhibited... odd..

In the morning, Bibabe left as she had an appointment someplace, gave me a 
tonguedown in front of HBExciteme in the tatami bedroom, and went home.

I then played with and fucked HBExciteme some more, just the two of us, 
and then took her to the train station after.

n
I debriefed and asked what HBExciteme felt about the evening, and she said that 
she liked it, had never done that, but felt bad that Bibabe was a bit
jealous, that it seem I am her boyfriend. But it was OK. Somehow she was very
calm about it all, very surreal, but it was cool though..

I took her to the trainstation, and then never saw her again. I didn't ask
her email/phone, and she didn't ask mine (adds to the mystery of it I
suppose ;-) )!.

--

The next day I talked to Bibabe, and she was a bit nervous, about what the
reaction of HBExciteme was, and more, if she might tell her common friends
what happened with the 3 of us. I told her that it was very unlikely, and that
it was just the secret of the 3 of us. That calmed her down alot. Then I 
asked Bibabe what she thought of it all, and said she liked it, though it was 
the first time, and she was nervous about it all, and who might find out, which 
was why she wasn't as liberal at playing with HBExciteme as she actually 
wanted to be the previous night.

I told her that we would go out another night, and pickup another girlfriend
off the street to playwith for another adventure. She said she is looking
very forward to that evening! Fucking awesome! . .


--

What I learned:

-It helps alot to prepare one of the chicks ahead of time with the plan,
so she can help you execute it (or at least not fuck it up). This is crucial,
and adds a large degree of control to the situation that is otherwise absent,
and in the end, greatly improves the success rate.

-Like a regular PU, it is also helpful to have a PU plan ready, with steps
 (kino, tables (not counters) and seating arrangements thought out, the 
 games to use/gimmicks (nigerians, hands and the bathroom..etc), that can
 be used to advance things. This preparation was very valuable.

-Social proof effects are very powerful in 3p situations, where one of the
 chicks is in on the scam. HBexciteme I dont think is bi (just anything is
 OK), and had it been just me, I dont think I could have laid her, but with
 the social proof/peer pressure, things like getting her home/into the bedroom
 almost naked became trivially easy. Social proof effects will work way against
 you if you didn't prepare one of the chicks, but will work way in your 
 favor if you did prepare one of the chicks... so use that to your advantage!

-Jokes as tests: ie. the bi jokes above I used to scope out Bibabe when
 I met her.. important to determinate what a chick will likely do/not do.

-Jealousy: I remember TPUA had a similar 3P experience a while back, and
 jealousy between the chicks was also a bit of an issue. I need to do the
 set up for this better with the other 'hunter' chick next time I execute the
 plan.

So there you go!

THE END!

Opinion/comments welcome!

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had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and
simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.

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just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but
don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down
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with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of
course).

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"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl. Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked
what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the
HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so
that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it
right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am
going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very
enthusiastic about the idea. "Ok, now I am going to pull my hand away, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Wait, I think
there are more in there, so let me get them all." Then I take my hand away and say " And
now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if
I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of
something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,
"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take
these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing
feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all
this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes
to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look). Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for
awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their
names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of
her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc. Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them
where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay
and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication
being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front
desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I
do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I
had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI
(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal. Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the
HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course
since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in
the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most
natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,
so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile. I
wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants
to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an
extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her
head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,
I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is
just off my scale!!.

Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the
details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):

-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name
right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too
much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I
learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that
answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.

As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3
some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c
;-)

-TokyoPUA

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Now that the group is mostly signal and low noise (with the
possible exeption of the current debate over seduction
"molecules", LOL), I will be posting a little more often. Thanks
again to Formhandle's genius in creating this moderated group, buy Iressa online cod.

This "report" was originally just an email to an inner circle of
friends (Formhandle, Dante, Little_Grasshopper, Entropi) so its
formated poorly for this page. Anyway, Buy no prescription Iressa online, here it is basically as I
wrote it to them:-----------------------------------

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

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Turns out she is my pick among the two girls Little_Grasshopper
andI PU'd at a cafe like 5 months ago. I had nevercalled her back cause I know she lives really close to me (dontwant a psycho case once I leave her) and I hadforgotten her name anyway.

So I leave and notice there are a hell of a lot ofpeople around the Prudential center. As I get closerI notice they are going to light up the christmas tree from NovaScotia, Purchase Iressa online no prescription, and more importantly, that there are HB'severywhere. Even though, Im still about to leave for workwhen I see another asian babe, only much sexier thananything I had seen in a long time, Buy Iressa No Prescription. Lookedlike she was walking into the supermarket, but even bettershe instead sat down on the benches outside. She was wearingsupertight blackish blue jeans with stilleto blackboots and a white sweater. DAMN. She had long hair to thesmall of her back, order Iressa online c.o.d, and amazing cleavage. Buy Iressa No Prescription, Naturallydark skin. I have to give her about a 9 - 9.5 on theTPUA scale. I tried to go sit down beside her, butthere was no room (some lady's bag next to her that Icouldnt see on the approach), so I had to just sit onthe concrete a few seats away. Buy generic Iressa, So much for not being noticed or
working the 3 second rule, but I often ignore that. Confidence in
ones own ability to do a PU should always be able to override any
other "mistake" you make. Anyway, she was talking on thephone, and I just pretended to be waiting forsomething, Buy Iressa No Prescription.

Then I got up and stood around waiting, which was agood move, cause finally the lady next to her left andI was able to sit down again on the bench this timeand not seem too obvious. Now it turns out she wasspeaking japanese, order Iressa no prescription, so I knew I had a great chance given my
thourough experience with Japanese women. I would have prefered
that she was Korean or Chinese, just for the variation and added
challenge, but Im working long distance on a Korean stewardess
that should give in sometime soon so that particular craving will
get satisfied soon enough.

Once she got off the phone, Iressa samples, I wasted no time, turnedto her and said "You must be Japanese". Buy Iressa No Prescription, She smiledand said yes. She had a great smile, beautiful white straightteeth (not too common for Jgirls). I did my usualfluff talk about Japan for awhile, then confided thatI had lived there, that I spoke the language, buy Iressa without a prescription. Shetested me and was impressed. I asked her age, sheasked me to guess. I said "20", she said "exactly!"She asked my age, same game, she said "30", I said"exactly!" I later spun this into the whole"coincidence" and general feeling of romance manytimes as I talked with her throughout the night, Buy Iressa No Prescription.
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saidyes. At some point during all this, I had anotherlucky break when a security guard asked if I couldmove over to make more room on the bench, purchase Iressa online, so I satright next to her and was already getting thigh kino afteronly about 5 minutes of talking.

She had mentioned that she liked Boston for itscombination of old and new, in particular places likeJohn Hancock tower and Copley chapel. Buy Iressa No Prescription, So I had theperfect segue, explaining to her how the Hancockbuilding had been purposely made to look very thin asyou stand in front of the chapel, so as to avoidovershadowing it. So I took her to see the effectfirsthand as we waited for the tree to be lit.
We get back to the tree and by this time I have morevalue elicitations: she is studying fashion merchandising, Online buy Iressa without a prescription, like baseball, did basketball in high school, likesswimming, movies, studying english, etc. We get inthe thick of the crowd and I pursue more about themovies, where can i find Iressa online. She only passingly mentions romantic movies,but I capitalize nonetheless, and say "you seem like aromantic type". (This is a mini structure that I use a lot to
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presuppose she is a romantic type emphatically, they always
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midriff.

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did a little of this as well earlier) that we have beenfortunate enough to have (launch our world talk, siezethe day type stuff after 9/11 enjoy life while youcan) and tell her that its OK to enjoy my massage (more
leading/paceing with something I started again while talking) andfeel better about being with me. She softens a bit, order Iressa, and30 minutes later we are having GREAT sex, she is really into it,
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The only problem is she lives only about 5 blocks fromme afte all, logistics could get messy since I have invitedthe Japanese stewardess here to see me again next year. Anyway,
she was so fine that Ididnt care and still dont :-)

-TPUA

PS. One last data point, I was looking fairly smoothin a brand new black suede leather jacket, blackbutton up shirt, blue jeans, my old black leather shoes, wearing
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Social Proof Report! A screambabe Sequel!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com

From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:50:12 GMT

Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
001127

This report is a sequel to the Screambabe-HBgeek chance meeting
story I posted last week. It is turning out to be a stunning
example in social proof.

Essentially, I was in a bar with HBGeek, doing the ManiacPlan
on her (see my website). I was at stage 'S' (heavy kino, the
sexual question game) when Screambabe (a chick I am already
shagging who happened to be in the bar watching me without me
knowing, came by to interrupt us and cause shit.. see the
report for the details).

First what I did was to contain the 'reaction' after this happened
so that my chance with HBGeek (or any other chick) wouldnt get
ruined by Screambabe spreading bad things about me around, or
stalking my house or something like that.

So I (rightfully so) blamed the whole incident on her, and
immediately sent her two notes, one of them below. What happened
after, was fascinating.. First here is the note I sent her:

---MANIAC WRITES:

Screambabe,

I got your calls. I am still really upset about
how you behaved last week (basically going nuts
because you saw me talking to a girl, and thinking
like you own me..)

Just I dont know what to say, but I expect(ed)
better than that. If something upset you, you should
have stayed quiet (or at least respectful about it
if you wanted to come over to me, which is fine too),
and then talk about it later on the phone or something
if you wanted to talk about it..

.. but what you did was ENTIRELY out of line and
unreasonable..

I just dont know more what to say about it than
that..

Maniac

--END MANIAC WRITES----

--
[My other note was along the same lines, but much more
severe, and in more detail, if I find a copy of it, I
will post it too]

After blaming her for everything, and drilling it in,
Screambabe then replies:

---SCREAMBABE REPLIES (sorry about her fucked up English)

Thank you very much for your sincere mail.
I have been thinking of you and what I did so far.
I read your mail and now understand your feeling very well.

Yes, it was too soon, and of course you feel it is too much.

 As I told you, I am looking a person who might be my special person
in the future as well as just nice friends.
I think I started to think of you too seriously too soon just becausewe
had some relationship.

But I thought it over and over and now I think that I  should
have noticed that men are different from women (including the way of thinking
about such relationship).I am very sorry, Maniac.

I really enjoyed being with you and I could spend wonderful time withyou
though it was only twice.

After this incident happend, I really regreted what I did to you.
If you think OK that we can be just good friends, I would be very happy.
Thank you for your warm words on the phone. ....I am sorry that Icalled
you very late.I appreciate for this.This is my feeling.

I would be happy if you accept my feeling.and many many apologies to
you.

Screambabe

--END SCREAMBABE REPLY

So, now at least she wont be attacking me out in public anymore.. Now
there is more.. I did one fuckup, which actually, turned out in my benefit.
She asked me if I worked in xxx firm. I (figuring she already somehow knew I
did through friends or something) said I did. Turns out she did have a
friend there.

Now apparently, (I find out from bichick from that 'friday experiment in
psychology" (see post on ASF 0011 period) that a lady (which I concluded
was Screambabe) called her friend at my office there to find out about
me.
Of course, since I dont fuck around in the office, but flirt alot, all
the women there love me, think I rock totally. Her friend told other co-
workers about the incident.

But because I had already neutralized Screambabe, she didn't say bad
shit about me like I was two timing her or something, but rather she said
something like...

["I really like this guy, Maniac. He is so wonderful, and can
understand me
so well. But I worry that another girl (she is referring to HB Geek
now, who is better looking than screambabe, and younger too), is trying to take
is heart from me. But Maniac really knows how to treat a lady, and I just
dont know what to do, I really want him so bad..."   etc..etc.]

Well, of course this got around the office at speeds faster than light,
and guess what. Since two days ago, EVERY chick in the office is dying to
get me out and find out what makes me so great that I can get a chick into
such a stupor over me like this. They stop by my office, make sweet
talk, and ask me when I am free.. and the babes.. the 9s, the 10s.. the ones
who wouldnt even turn their head before, without alot of effort on my
part.. Chicks wink, and smile, and get giddy asking me for lunch, for
a beer outside after the office..etc.etc.. like this for a week now...

Bichick told me the whole office now knows the story about Screambabe
calling, and dying to have me again.. and told me that this has now
turned on all the chicks around me who have heard about it as to
"what ever it is that is so special about Maniac, I want it too!"

And that.. is social proof. Its power and strength has surprised even
me.. now I just need to figure out how to use it in 'safe' settings
(ie. outside the office, as I dont dare fuck anyone there, but it made
for a good experiment in social proof anyways).

Fascinating,
Constructive comments and opinions welcome,

Maniac High
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Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Taking control when things go wrong

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Using the ‘color’ game to PU!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

The New Maniac Plan 2002

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Copyright 2002, by Maniac High and the MH Group.
All rights reserved, this document, nor any portions can be
posted/reproduced without expressed written permission.

http://www.pickupguide.com

If you are in Tokyo, send me a note..
maniac_high@pickupguide.com

M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

--------------------------------------------

EVASIVE ACTION.. (ie, if it is not working out, try stuff from here)

------------------------------------------------------------

3p Lay Report! Maniac does a street PU and threesome!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

[020915]

Maniac does a street PU and threesome!  3p report!

I dont much write lay reports anymore, as they are all pretty much the same, and
formula based. Now the research is on to more interesting things.. like 
threesomes!!

Recently, I got together my first 'unplanned' threesome, with 2 chicks that
had never done one. Here is the report, and how I got it set up to happen!

The 2 chicks are Bibabe (she likes girls), and HBExciteMe (she likes anything
as long as it is on edge and exciting, be it bar fights, or inpulsive 
threesome with her acquantances she doesn't know real well).

I had known Bibabe for a few months, and already fucked her with a standard
new Maniac Plan lay routine. During a drinking pubnight I was debriefing her
and kidded her about a cute girl nearby, and that she should 'try her out',
as 'only a woman really knows how to treat a woman'. 

This is a test I used to see if she was bi/bicurious. She joked back 'maybe
I should take the chance!'. This is good (even as a joke), as non bi-curious
chicks will just react (blech! I like guys). Later that evening, the 'target'
went to the bathroom, and I suggested to Bibabe, 'here is your chance', go
see if she wants to go out with us after.    .. and Bibabe just got up, and
followed her in the bathroom! (no hesitation, anything!). Unfortunately,
when she got there, she stalled out, and didn't know what to say/how to
execute the PU.

Still, this was good, because it told me that: 
1)I got a bi-curious chick
2)She may have no experience, and is an AFC when it comes to PU.. but 
 she is not afraid, and is willing to try stuff on command... very very good,
 as I will be able to work with this.

I debriefed her some more after this later that evening, and she did say
that she was a bit curious about cute girls, but had never tried anything.
I jokingly suggested that I will help her get one, and she jokingly agreed.
(using 'jokes' in this way is a good way to 'test' people for unusual
preferences, as they can always back down and say they were 'joking' if they
feel threatened, but will play with the 'joke' otherwise. 

Ie. if you ask a Bi-curios chick directly 'Are you Bi', she will get defensive,
and say 'no', but if you kid about it the way I did above, if she goes
along with it, then it is her way of communicating (in a less risky way),
that she is possibly interested in what you are proposing. 

Then I told her my story about my ex-gf who was bi, and how she was so cool
and fun. That made it clear to her, that I accept such people, and that she
can feel more comfortable around me to talk about such things..

Same goes for talks about kink, group sex...whatever, use the same method
above if you want to get a chick into those topics/test for interest.

So, that evening, I told her, that I would do the PU for her, and to watch
me. So I go to the target, tell her that my GF and I like her, and want
her to come out with us for a pint after this party is over. The target says 
'OK'! The party ends, and we go up as a group, but the target's AFC friends
pull her away. The target was looking for reassurance from Bibabe (and not
just me, since it is more secure to have it coming from the girl, not the guy),
but Bibabe, being an AFC, failed to do this, so she left.

--
Fast forward to another pubnight a month later, different groups of friends.
We have some pints, and I joke to Bibabe, that 'I need to teach you how
to pick up a woman, because you ladies always have it just easy, and just
wait for the guys to come along, and do all the work'. Bibabe then asks me,
ok, teach me then. 

I then go into ASF/AFC basic training (ie. like what you see in my nMP/lay
reports on pickupguide.com) with her, and tell her what to do/not do. She
is very fascinated by it all.

Another month goes by, I meet her some times to fuck her, and joke about
getting her a nice girl, and she goes along with the joking. 

Then last week, another pubnight and dance at a nightclub in down, and I
run into Bibabe by chance in the place with her friends. We dance for a bit,
and I decide that I want to fuck Bibabe, so I extract her from there (no 
problem, since I already fucked her before).

We are then walking down the street to get a bite, and she runs into a
chick (HBExciteme) on the sidewalk that she sort of knew from the nightclub,
one of her friend's friends or something. She is very cute and sexy.

First I thought...shit.. now we are stuck with her fucking friend all night,
and I can't get bibabe home...   that thought lasted about.... 10 seconds..
then I thought.... THREESOME!!!!

From my chats with Bibabe, I knew that she would be willing to try something,
but probably AFC out, so I would need to direct everything so it wouldn't
fuck up. Thats ok though, I am a PUA, have experience, and had been working
on a threesome/3p PU plan (still very experimental), so no problem.

Also, this situation was better than the last time with the other target, 
because there were no other friends around to distract us, just me, Bibabe, and 
HBExciteme as the target we would gang up on to try to take home and fuck
together.

The basic plan was:
-get the 3 of us together in an Izakaya/beer pub, sitting down, in a way
 that the 2 chicks can pay attention to each other, and I am close enough to
 direct it.
-get HBExciteme to feel comfortable around Bibabe
-get them both to my place
-fuck them both

The place where we were was Roppongi (part of Tokyo), which these days,
has been totally infested by these illegal migrant Nigerian guys that 
always 'attack' single guys walking down the sidewalk, and try to drag 
them into expensive hostess clubs. So I first kid about this, and ask
each girl to 'protect me from them', and hold each of my hands out to
each girl.. each girl (Bibabe did first, and then social proof kicked in,
and HBExciteme took the other one) takes one of my hands. So now Kino has
already started, only 1 minute into the PU..cool. 

This is a trend the whole night actually, using one girl you already laid 
(Bibabe) as social proof/trendsetting to make the other girl (HBExciteme) 
do what I want, since now psychologically, it is 2 against 1, so social
pressure forces come much more into play against the target (especially
when one of us doing the PU is also a chick ('good cop' effect), than if it is
just you alone, against a target chick.

So the next thing I did was take them to a quiet beerpub (it is now 1am
now) in Roppongi, where I was. Usually, when I am one on one, I choose places
with counters, but this time, since there are 3, I wanted a table, so that
the 2 chicks could see each other, and I could direct it/be in earshot of both
at the same time. So a counter wouldn't work in this case.

Once we got in there, I sat down next to Bibabe (so I could hold her, feel
her up/get her excited, and also tell her what to do/say to the target, 
HBExciteme), and had HBExciteme sit directly facing Bibabe the other side
of the small table. 

From here, some regular nMP stuff on HBExciteme (job, tired, like beer?).

Then I ask into the ear of Bibabe (sitting next to me), "so do you like her?".
She whispers back "yes". I reply to her, "OK, just do what I tell you", and 
I start the PU.

Now what I do, is pay most of my facial/verbal attention to HBExcite me,
across the table, while visibly kino'ing Bibabe (holding her leg.., being
very physically close, tonguedowns to bibabe in front HBExciteme) 
The goal is to make HBExciteme a bit physically aroused and jealous
by the show in front of her, and then letting her release that, by allowing
her to give/express attention (to Bibabe) at a moment I decide later on when
I want to close the PU.

Now I begin... After a few 'cheers' of beer, and kino'ing/KC'ing Bibabe
I get things deeper with HBExciteme by asking her (see nMP for this and
other routines, on my www.pickupguide.com homepage) "So tell me HBExciteme,
are you the type who likes romance, or the type who likes excitement?"
(the goal here, is to ask a double bind question, with the answer I want/expect
to be the last choice).

As expected, HBExciteme replies "excitment, definately excitement". Ok,
so far so good (I turn and KC Bibabe in front of her). Now I play the
strawberry game with HBexciteme (see webpage for it). Her answers are
fence: 1 meter
# of berries: don't care at all/not so much
feeling to farmer: nothing special/don't care

This was interesting, as it wasn't really any response at all to the game.
In retrospect, this is what HBExciteme was like though overall. Not very
reactive/proactive to anything, but on the other hand, anything that might
happen (ie. getting fucked later that night), is ok, and whatever happens
just happens and that is OK with her.

Now I take the hand of HBExciteme (it was on the table in front of me),
and remark on how small and gentle it is, and the nailcolor (red), and
how it matched those of Bibabe (was also red). Then I put both their hands
together, to compare each other's color and size. HBExciteme didn't retract
at this point, which was a good sign.

Now I decide to let them get to know each other a bit without me, and get
comfortable in that girls only way. So I say "I am going to the bathroom,
but will be back, you two wait here for me", and then I take each of their
hands, and put Bibabes hand on top of HBExciteme's hand on the table, and
leave them that way when I get up to go to the bathroom.

I get back, and Bibabe is still holding HBExciteme's hand while talking to
her... very very good sign!

I sit down, and then seperate their hands, and take each girls hand in each
of my hands, so I am holding both of them.. still no bad reaction from
HBExciteme (now she is happy to not be getting left out of all the kino
I figure, and probably is happy that Bibabe is sharing me with her so she
doesn't feel like the '3rd wheel' anymore)... so far so good.

I ask Bibabe again (confirm), "you like her"? Bibabe: "yes". ... good too.

I now ask HBExciteme "so what is your type of guy"? She tells me a guy
who leads, and otherwise OK. Sounds good. At that point, HBExciteme takes
her leg, and puts it on top of mine under the table (while I am still
holding the hands of both girls).

This my friends, is the closing sign! HBExciteme, accepts Bibabe, and wants
to fuck me, and Bibabe is also in on it. Cool!

I say "lets go" (I *do not* say where we are going, and neither girl asks me).

We get down to the street (I take hand of each girl again, in the street, 
like before), and I flag a taxi. I still don't say where we are going, and
neither girl asks (well, Bibabe knows what will happen, and HBExciteme
seems to have figured it out without anyone telling her explicitly ;-)  ).

We get in the taxi, and I sit in the front seat, and put the 2 girls in the
back. I expect.. (and am not disappointed from how I saw Bibabe with HBExciteme
in the pub) Bibabe to start to kino and feelup HBExciteme in the back of the
cab. Needless to say I am not disappointed, I trained Bibabe well for this
mission in the past month.. that taxi driver must have been surprised by
what he saw in the mirror though!

It was a nice sight to watch that all the way home, and the taxi driver,
like a good mannered Japanese staff to his clients, feigned ignorance of the
whole thing ;-), courteous and restrained right to the end of the trip.

We get to my house and I worry that if a freakout will happen, it will be
here, and that HBExciteme will insist to stay in the living room, or something.

So what I did, is take HBExciteme's hand (and not Bibabe), so she gets the
special attention (for now), and take her up to my room. Bibabe is behind
(and in on the scam), and says nothing/looks calm to HBExciteme. I leave
HBExciteme in the room by herself, and I go down to Bibabe downstairs.

At this point, HBexciteme might not know if we were going to stay there,
so that way she cannot freak out, that was the intent of doing it this way.

A couple minutes later, Bibabe and I come up. We are both happy to see
that rather than sleep in all her clothes, HBExciteme has stripped down to
her Tback Thong bikini, and is lying down on the futon waiting for us;
just relaxed.  Wow! That was very cool..

Bibabe and I strip down, and get in the futon next to her (arent tatami
rooms great! room for all!).

I start touching/feeling up HBExciteme a bit, and she doesnt react bad at all,
just she lets me do it, and makes erotic sounds as I reach into her
private places, and she starts shrieking and wriggling all around.

Now here though, is where things got a little edgy.. because this made
Bibabe a bit jealous. Bibabe is cute, but HBExciteme is definately a
babe, very sexy, and attractive, especially wearing only that Tback Thong.
Bibabe somehow, was uncomfortable about this, and was getting a bit irritated
when I gave attention to HBExciteme.

So I stopped playing with HBExciteme, and fucked Bibabe silly instead, with 
HBExciteme next to me (she didn't mind this at all, it turns out).

After that was done, I hugged them both, and played with them both a bit.
Bibabe still got a bit irritated when I would give attention to HBExciteme,
and then decided she wasn't interested in HBExciteme as much anymore.
I told Bibabe that I wanted to fuck HBExciteme, and that she was really
sexy looking (Bibabe agreed, and that I think also irritated her a bit
it turns out). 

I suggested to Bibabe that I got her this nice woman for the evening, and
she is game on, so why doesn't she try her out. But she didn't want to
anymore, besides what she did to her in the cab, and when we first got in
the house.

HBExciteme, heard all this whispering, but was just relaxed about it, lying 
on the bed with her thong.

Bibabe finally said that I should fuck HBExciteme, so I did in the morning.
She was a good fuck, very sexy..babe. (I didn't know her name though,
still, as it was Bibabe's friend's friend, and I had forgot the name she
said in the bar). SHe works out or something, very firm body, no fat, sexy
and curvy in all the right places.... babe.

I could touch HBExciteme/do her anywhere, no resistance, just
shaking and erotic sounds as I did her. The only thing is HBExciteme didn't 
want me to kiss her on the lips, but anything else licking/feeling up/fucking 
related was totally OK and uninhibited... odd..

In the morning, Bibabe left as she had an appointment someplace, gave me a 
tonguedown in front of HBExciteme in the tatami bedroom, and went home.

I then played with and fucked HBExciteme some more, just the two of us, 
and then took her to the train station after.

n
I debriefed and asked what HBExciteme felt about the evening, and she said that 
she liked it, had never done that, but felt bad that Bibabe was a bit
jealous, that it seem I am her boyfriend. But it was OK. Somehow she was very
calm about it all, very surreal, but it was cool though..

I took her to the trainstation, and then never saw her again. I didn't ask
her email/phone, and she didn't ask mine (adds to the mystery of it I
suppose ;-) )!.

--

The next day I talked to Bibabe, and she was a bit nervous, about what the
reaction of HBExciteme was, and more, if she might tell her common friends
what happened with the 3 of us. I told her that it was very unlikely, and that
it was just the secret of the 3 of us. That calmed her down alot. Then I 
asked Bibabe what she thought of it all, and said she liked it, though it was 
the first time, and she was nervous about it all, and who might find out, which 
was why she wasn't as liberal at playing with HBExciteme as she actually 
wanted to be the previous night.

I told her that we would go out another night, and pickup another girlfriend
off the street to playwith for another adventure. She said she is looking
very forward to that evening! Fucking awesome! . .


--

What I learned:

-It helps alot to prepare one of the chicks ahead of time with the plan,
so she can help you execute it (or at least not fuck it up). This is crucial,
and adds a large degree of control to the situation that is otherwise absent,
and in the end, greatly improves the success rate.

-Like a regular PU, it is also helpful to have a PU plan ready, with steps
 (kino, tables (not counters) and seating arrangements thought out, the 
 games to use/gimmicks (nigerians, hands and the bathroom..etc), that can
 be used to advance things. This preparation was very valuable.

-Social proof effects are very powerful in 3p situations, where one of the
 chicks is in on the scam. HBexciteme I dont think is bi (just anything is
 OK), and had it been just me, I dont think I could have laid her, but with
 the social proof/peer pressure, things like getting her home/into the bedroom
 almost naked became trivially easy. Social proof effects will work way against
 you if you didn't prepare one of the chicks, but will work way in your 
 favor if you did prepare one of the chicks... so use that to your advantage!

-Jokes as tests: ie. the bi jokes above I used to scope out Bibabe when
 I met her.. important to determinate what a chick will likely do/not do.

-Jealousy: I remember TPUA had a similar 3P experience a while back, and
 jealousy between the chicks was also a bit of an issue. I need to do the
 set up for this better with the other 'hunter' chick next time I execute the
 plan.

So there you go!

THE END!

Opinion/comments welcome!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

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Social Proof Report! A screambabe Sequel!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com

From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:50:12 GMT

Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
001127

This report is a sequel to the Screambabe-HBgeek chance meeting
story I posted last week. It is turning out to be a stunning
example in social proof.

Essentially, I was in a bar with HBGeek, doing the ManiacPlan
on her (see my website). I was at stage 'S' (heavy kino, the
sexual question game) when Screambabe (a chick I am already
shagging who happened to be in the bar watching me without me
knowing, came by to interrupt us and cause shit.. see the
report for the details).

First what I did was to contain the 'reaction' after this happened
so that my chance with HBGeek (or any other chick) wouldnt get
ruined by Screambabe spreading bad things about me around, or
stalking my house or something like that.

So I (rightfully so) blamed the whole incident on her, and
immediately sent her two notes, one of them below. What happened
after, was fascinating.. First here is the note I sent her:

---MANIAC WRITES:

Screambabe,

I got your calls. I am still really upset about
how you behaved last week (basically going nuts
because you saw me talking to a girl, and thinking
like you own me..)

Just I dont know what to say, but I expect(ed)
better than that. If something upset you, you should
have stayed quiet (or at least respectful about it
if you wanted to come over to me, which is fine too),
and then talk about it later on the phone or something
if you wanted to talk about it..

.. but what you did was ENTIRELY out of line and
unreasonable..

I just dont know more what to say about it than
that..

Maniac

--END MANIAC WRITES----

--
[My other note was along the same lines, but much more
severe, and in more detail, if I find a copy of it, I
will post it too]

After blaming her for everything, and drilling it in,
Screambabe then replies:

---SCREAMBABE REPLIES (sorry about her fucked up English)

Thank you very much for your sincere mail.
I have been thinking of you and what I did so far.
I read your mail and now understand your feeling very well.

Yes, it was too soon, and of course you feel it is too much.

 As I told you, I am looking a person who might be my special person
in the future as well as just nice friends.
I think I started to think of you too seriously too soon just becausewe
had some relationship.

But I thought it over and over and now I think that I  should
have noticed that men are different from women (including the way of thinking
about such relationship).I am very sorry, Maniac.

I really enjoyed being with you and I could spend wonderful time withyou
though it was only twice.

After this incident happend, I really regreted what I did to you.
If you think OK that we can be just good friends, I would be very happy.
Thank you for your warm words on the phone. ....I am sorry that Icalled
you very late.I appreciate for this.This is my feeling.

I would be happy if you accept my feeling.and many many apologies to
you.

Screambabe

--END SCREAMBABE REPLY

So, now at least she wont be attacking me out in public anymore.. Now
there is more.. I did one fuckup, which actually, turned out in my benefit.
She asked me if I worked in xxx firm. I (figuring she already somehow knew I
did through friends or something) said I did. Turns out she did have a
friend there.

Now apparently, (I find out from bichick from that 'friday experiment in
psychology" (see post on ASF 0011 period) that a lady (which I concluded
was Screambabe) called her friend at my office there to find out about
me.
Of course, since I dont fuck around in the office, but flirt alot, all
the women there love me, think I rock totally. Her friend told other co-
workers about the incident.

But because I had already neutralized Screambabe, she didn't say bad
shit about me like I was two timing her or something, but rather she said
something like...

["I really like this guy, Maniac. He is so wonderful, and can
understand me
so well. But I worry that another girl (she is referring to HB Geek
now, who is better looking than screambabe, and younger too), is trying to take
is heart from me. But Maniac really knows how to treat a lady, and I just
dont know what to do, I really want him so bad..."   etc..etc.]

Well, of course this got around the office at speeds faster than light,
and guess what. Since two days ago, EVERY chick in the office is dying to
get me out and find out what makes me so great that I can get a chick into
such a stupor over me like this. They stop by my office, make sweet
talk, and ask me when I am free.. and the babes.. the 9s, the 10s.. the ones
who wouldnt even turn their head before, without alot of effort on my
part.. Chicks wink, and smile, and get giddy asking me for lunch, for
a beer outside after the office..etc.etc.. like this for a week now...

Bichick told me the whole office now knows the story about Screambabe
calling, and dying to have me again.. and told me that this has now
turned on all the chicks around me who have heard about it as to
"what ever it is that is so special about Maniac, I want it too!"

And that.. is social proof. Its power and strength has surprised even
me.. now I just need to figure out how to use it in 'safe' settings
(ie. outside the office, as I dont dare fuck anyone there, but it made
for a good experiment in social proof anyways).

Fascinating,
Constructive comments and opinions welcome,

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

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This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Taking control when things go wrong

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » feeling

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Using the ‘color’ game to PU!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

The New Maniac Plan 2002

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Copyright 2002, by Maniac High and the MH Group.
All rights reserved, this document, nor any portions can be
posted/reproduced without expressed written permission.

http://www.pickupguide.com

If you are in Tokyo, send me a note..
maniac_high@pickupguide.com

M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

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EVASIVE ACTION.. (ie, if it is not working out, try stuff from here)

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3p Lay Report! Maniac does a street PU and threesome!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

[020915]

Maniac does a street PU and threesome!  3p report!

I dont much write lay reports anymore, as they are all pretty much the same, and
formula based. Now the research is on to more interesting things.. like 
threesomes!!

Recently, I got together my first 'unplanned' threesome, with 2 chicks that
had never done one. Here is the report, and how I got it set up to happen!

The 2 chicks are Bibabe (she likes girls), and HBExciteMe (she likes anything
as long as it is on edge and exciting, be it bar fights, or inpulsive 
threesome with her acquantances she doesn't know real well).

I had known Bibabe for a few months, and already fucked her with a standard
new Maniac Plan lay routine. During a drinking pubnight I was debriefing her
and kidded her about a cute girl nearby, and that she should 'try her out',
as 'only a woman really knows how to treat a woman'. 

This is a test I used to see if she was bi/bicurious. She joked back 'maybe
I should take the chance!'. This is good (even as a joke), as non bi-curious
chicks will just react (blech! I like guys). Later that evening, the 'target'
went to the bathroom, and I suggested to Bibabe, 'here is your chance', go
see if she wants to go out with us after.    .. and Bibabe just got up, and
followed her in the bathroom! (no hesitation, anything!). Unfortunately,
when she got there, she stalled out, and didn't know what to say/how to
execute the PU.

Still, this was good, because it told me that: 
1)I got a bi-curious chick
2)She may have no experience, and is an AFC when it comes to PU.. but 
 she is not afraid, and is willing to try stuff on command... very very good,
 as I will be able to work with this.

I debriefed her some more after this later that evening, and she did say
that she was a bit curious about cute girls, but had never tried anything.
I jokingly suggested that I will help her get one, and she jokingly agreed.
(using 'jokes' in this way is a good way to 'test' people for unusual
preferences, as they can always back down and say they were 'joking' if they
feel threatened, but will play with the 'joke' otherwise. 

Ie. if you ask a Bi-curios chick directly 'Are you Bi', she will get defensive,
and say 'no', but if you kid about it the way I did above, if she goes
along with it, then it is her way of communicating (in a less risky way),
that she is possibly interested in what you are proposing. 

Then I told her my story about my ex-gf who was bi, and how she was so cool
and fun. That made it clear to her, that I accept such people, and that she
can feel more comfortable around me to talk about such things..

Same goes for talks about kink, group sex...whatever, use the same method
above if you want to get a chick into those topics/test for interest.

So, that evening, I told her, that I would do the PU for her, and to watch
me. So I go to the target, tell her that my GF and I like her, and want
her to come out with us for a pint after this party is over. The target says 
'OK'! The party ends, and we go up as a group, but the target's AFC friends
pull her away. The target was looking for reassurance from Bibabe (and not
just me, since it is more secure to have it coming from the girl, not the guy),
but Bibabe, being an AFC, failed to do this, so she left.

--
Fast forward to another pubnight a month later, different groups of friends.
We have some pints, and I joke to Bibabe, that 'I need to teach you how
to pick up a woman, because you ladies always have it just easy, and just
wait for the guys to come along, and do all the work'. Bibabe then asks me,
ok, teach me then. 

I then go into ASF/AFC basic training (ie. like what you see in my nMP/lay
reports on pickupguide.com) with her, and tell her what to do/not do. She
is very fascinated by it all.

Another month goes by, I meet her some times to fuck her, and joke about
getting her a nice girl, and she goes along with the joking. 

Then last week, another pubnight and dance at a nightclub in down, and I
run into Bibabe by chance in the place with her friends. We dance for a bit,
and I decide that I want to fuck Bibabe, so I extract her from there (no 
problem, since I already fucked her before).

We are then walking down the street to get a bite, and she runs into a
chick (HBExciteme) on the sidewalk that she sort of knew from the nightclub,
one of her friend's friends or something. She is very cute and sexy.

First I thought...shit.. now we are stuck with her fucking friend all night,
and I can't get bibabe home...   that thought lasted about.... 10 seconds..
then I thought.... THREESOME!!!!

From my chats with Bibabe, I knew that she would be willing to try something,
but probably AFC out, so I would need to direct everything so it wouldn't
fuck up. Thats ok though, I am a PUA, have experience, and had been working
on a threesome/3p PU plan (still very experimental), so no problem.

Also, this situation was better than the last time with the other target, 
because there were no other friends around to distract us, just me, Bibabe, and 
HBExciteme as the target we would gang up on to try to take home and fuck
together.

The basic plan was:
-get the 3 of us together in an Izakaya/beer pub, sitting down, in a way
 that the 2 chicks can pay attention to each other, and I am close enough to
 direct it.
-get HBExciteme to feel comfortable around Bibabe
-get them both to my place
-fuck them both

The place where we were was Roppongi (part of Tokyo), which these days,
has been totally infested by these illegal migrant Nigerian guys that 
always 'attack' single guys walking down the sidewalk, and try to drag 
them into expensive hostess clubs. So I first kid about this, and ask
each girl to 'protect me from them', and hold each of my hands out to
each girl.. each girl (Bibabe did first, and then social proof kicked in,
and HBExciteme took the other one) takes one of my hands. So now Kino has
already started, only 1 minute into the PU..cool. 

This is a trend the whole night actually, using one girl you already laid 
(Bibabe) as social proof/trendsetting to make the other girl (HBExciteme) 
do what I want, since now psychologically, it is 2 against 1, so social
pressure forces come much more into play against the target (especially
when one of us doing the PU is also a chick ('good cop' effect), than if it is
just you alone, against a target chick.

So the next thing I did was take them to a quiet beerpub (it is now 1am
now) in Roppongi, where I was. Usually, when I am one on one, I choose places
with counters, but this time, since there are 3, I wanted a table, so that
the 2 chicks could see each other, and I could direct it/be in earshot of both
at the same time. So a counter wouldn't work in this case.

Once we got in there, I sat down next to Bibabe (so I could hold her, feel
her up/get her excited, and also tell her what to do/say to the target, 
HBExciteme), and had HBExciteme sit directly facing Bibabe the other side
of the small table. 

From here, some regular nMP stuff on HBExciteme (job, tired, like beer?).

Then I ask into the ear of Bibabe (sitting next to me), "so do you like her?".
She whispers back "yes". I reply to her, "OK, just do what I tell you", and 
I start the PU.

Now what I do, is pay most of my facial/verbal attention to HBExcite me,
across the table, while visibly kino'ing Bibabe (holding her leg.., being
very physically close, tonguedowns to bibabe in front HBExciteme) 
The goal is to make HBExciteme a bit physically aroused and jealous
by the show in front of her, and then letting her release that, by allowing
her to give/express attention (to Bibabe) at a moment I decide later on when
I want to close the PU.

Now I begin... After a few 'cheers' of beer, and kino'ing/KC'ing Bibabe
I get things deeper with HBExciteme by asking her (see nMP for this and
other routines, on my www.pickupguide.com homepage) "So tell me HBExciteme,
are you the type who likes romance, or the type who likes excitement?"
(the goal here, is to ask a double bind question, with the answer I want/expect
to be the last choice).

As expected, HBExciteme replies "excitment, definately excitement". Ok,
so far so good (I turn and KC Bibabe in front of her). Now I play the
strawberry game with HBexciteme (see webpage for it). Her answers are
fence: 1 meter
# of berries: don't care at all/not so much
feeling to farmer: nothing special/don't care

This was interesting, as it wasn't really any response at all to the game.
In retrospect, this is what HBExciteme was like though overall. Not very
reactive/proactive to anything, but on the other hand, anything that might
happen (ie. getting fucked later that night), is ok, and whatever happens
just happens and that is OK with her.

Now I take the hand of HBExciteme (it was on the table in front of me),
and remark on how small and gentle it is, and the nailcolor (red), and
how it matched those of Bibabe (was also red). Then I put both their hands
together, to compare each other's color and size. HBExciteme didn't retract
at this point, which was a good sign.

Now I decide to let them get to know each other a bit without me, and get
comfortable in that girls only way. So I say "I am going to the bathroom,
but will be back, you two wait here for me", and then I take each of their
hands, and put Bibabes hand on top of HBExciteme's hand on the table, and
leave them that way when I get up to go to the bathroom.

I get back, and Bibabe is still holding HBExciteme's hand while talking to
her... very very good sign!

I sit down, and then seperate their hands, and take each girls hand in each
of my hands, so I am holding both of them.. still no bad reaction from
HBExciteme (now she is happy to not be getting left out of all the kino
I figure, and probably is happy that Bibabe is sharing me with her so she
doesn't feel like the '3rd wheel' anymore)... so far so good.

I ask Bibabe again (confirm), "you like her"? Bibabe: "yes". ... good too.

I now ask HBExciteme "so what is your type of guy"? She tells me a guy
who leads, and otherwise OK. Sounds good. At that point, HBExciteme takes
her leg, and puts it on top of mine under the table (while I am still
holding the hands of both girls).

This my friends, is the closing sign! HBExciteme, accepts Bibabe, and wants
to fuck me, and Bibabe is also in on it. Cool!

I say "lets go" (I *do not* say where we are going, and neither girl asks me).

We get down to the street (I take hand of each girl again, in the street, 
like before), and I flag a taxi. I still don't say where we are going, and
neither girl asks (well, Bibabe knows what will happen, and HBExciteme
seems to have figured it out without anyone telling her explicitly ;-)  ).

We get in the taxi, and I sit in the front seat, and put the 2 girls in the
back. I expect.. (and am not disappointed from how I saw Bibabe with HBExciteme
in the pub) Bibabe to start to kino and feelup HBExciteme in the back of the
cab. Needless to say I am not disappointed, I trained Bibabe well for this
mission in the past month.. that taxi driver must have been surprised by
what he saw in the mirror though!

It was a nice sight to watch that all the way home, and the taxi driver,
like a good mannered Japanese staff to his clients, feigned ignorance of the
whole thing ;-), courteous and restrained right to the end of the trip.

We get to my house and I worry that if a freakout will happen, it will be
here, and that HBExciteme will insist to stay in the living room, or something.

So what I did, is take HBExciteme's hand (and not Bibabe), so she gets the
special attention (for now), and take her up to my room. Bibabe is behind
(and in on the scam), and says nothing/looks calm to HBExciteme. I leave
HBExciteme in the room by herself, and I go down to Bibabe downstairs.

At this point, HBexciteme might not know if we were going to stay there,
so that way she cannot freak out, that was the intent of doing it this way.

A couple minutes later, Bibabe and I come up. We are both happy to see
that rather than sleep in all her clothes, HBExciteme has stripped down to
her Tback Thong bikini, and is lying down on the futon waiting for us;
just relaxed.  Wow! That was very cool..

Bibabe and I strip down, and get in the futon next to her (arent tatami
rooms great! room for all!).

I start touching/feeling up HBExciteme a bit, and she doesnt react bad at all,
just she lets me do it, and makes erotic sounds as I reach into her
private places, and she starts shrieking and wriggling all around.

Now here though, is where things got a little edgy.. because this made
Bibabe a bit jealous. Bibabe is cute, but HBExciteme is definately a
babe, very sexy, and attractive, especially wearing only that Tback Thong.
Bibabe somehow, was uncomfortable about this, and was getting a bit irritated
when I gave attention to HBExciteme.

So I stopped playing with HBExciteme, and fucked Bibabe silly instead, with 
HBExciteme next to me (she didn't mind this at all, it turns out).

After that was done, I hugged them both, and played with them both a bit.
Bibabe still got a bit irritated when I would give attention to HBExciteme,
and then decided she wasn't interested in HBExciteme as much anymore.
I told Bibabe that I wanted to fuck HBExciteme, and that she was really
sexy looking (Bibabe agreed, and that I think also irritated her a bit
it turns out). 

I suggested to Bibabe that I got her this nice woman for the evening, and
she is game on, so why doesn't she try her out. But she didn't want to
anymore, besides what she did to her in the cab, and when we first got in
the house.

HBExciteme, heard all this whispering, but was just relaxed about it, lying 
on the bed with her thong.

Bibabe finally said that I should fuck HBExciteme, so I did in the morning.
She was a good fuck, very sexy..babe. (I didn't know her name though,
still, as it was Bibabe's friend's friend, and I had forgot the name she
said in the bar). SHe works out or something, very firm body, no fat, sexy
and curvy in all the right places.... babe.

I could touch HBExciteme/do her anywhere, no resistance, just
shaking and erotic sounds as I did her. The only thing is HBExciteme didn't 
want me to kiss her on the lips, but anything else licking/feeling up/fucking 
related was totally OK and uninhibited... odd..

In the morning, Bibabe left as she had an appointment someplace, gave me a 
tonguedown in front of HBExciteme in the tatami bedroom, and went home.

I then played with and fucked HBExciteme some more, just the two of us, 
and then took her to the train station after.

n
I debriefed and asked what HBExciteme felt about the evening, and she said that 
she liked it, had never done that, but felt bad that Bibabe was a bit
jealous, that it seem I am her boyfriend. But it was OK. Somehow she was very
calm about it all, very surreal, but it was cool though..

I took her to the trainstation, and then never saw her again. I didn't ask
her email/phone, and she didn't ask mine (adds to the mystery of it I
suppose ;-) )!.

--

The next day I talked to Bibabe, and she was a bit nervous, about what the
reaction of HBExciteme was, and more, if she might tell her common friends
what happened with the 3 of us. I told her that it was very unlikely, and that
it was just the secret of the 3 of us. That calmed her down alot. Then I 
asked Bibabe what she thought of it all, and said she liked it, though it was 
the first time, and she was nervous about it all, and who might find out, which 
was why she wasn't as liberal at playing with HBExciteme as she actually 
wanted to be the previous night.

I told her that we would go out another night, and pickup another girlfriend
off the street to playwith for another adventure. She said she is looking
very forward to that evening! Fucking awesome! . .


--

What I learned:

-It helps alot to prepare one of the chicks ahead of time with the plan,
so she can help you execute it (or at least not fuck it up). This is crucial,
and adds a large degree of control to the situation that is otherwise absent,
and in the end, greatly improves the success rate.

-Like a regular PU, it is also helpful to have a PU plan ready, with steps
 (kino, tables (not counters) and seating arrangements thought out, the 
 games to use/gimmicks (nigerians, hands and the bathroom..etc), that can
 be used to advance things. This preparation was very valuable.

-Social proof effects are very powerful in 3p situations, where one of the
 chicks is in on the scam. HBexciteme I dont think is bi (just anything is
 OK), and had it been just me, I dont think I could have laid her, but with
 the social proof/peer pressure, things like getting her home/into the bedroom
 almost naked became trivially easy. Social proof effects will work way against
 you if you didn't prepare one of the chicks, but will work way in your 
 favor if you did prepare one of the chicks... so use that to your advantage!

-Jokes as tests: ie. the bi jokes above I used to scope out Bibabe when
 I met her.. important to determinate what a chick will likely do/not do.

-Jealousy: I remember TPUA had a similar 3P experience a while back, and
 jealousy between the chicks was also a bit of an issue. I need to do the
 set up for this better with the other 'hunter' chick next time I execute the
 plan.

So there you go!

THE END!

Opinion/comments welcome!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

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Social Proof Report! A screambabe Sequel!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com

From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:50:12 GMT

Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
001127

This report is a sequel to the Screambabe-HBgeek chance meeting
story I posted last week. It is turning out to be a stunning
example in social proof.

Essentially, I was in a bar with HBGeek, doing the ManiacPlan
on her (see my website). I was at stage 'S' (heavy kino, the
sexual question game) when Screambabe (a chick I am already
shagging who happened to be in the bar watching me without me
knowing, came by to interrupt us and cause shit.. see the
report for the details).

First what I did was to contain the 'reaction' after this happened
so that my chance with HBGeek (or any other chick) wouldnt get
ruined by Screambabe spreading bad things about me around, or
stalking my house or something like that.

So I (rightfully so) blamed the whole incident on her, and
immediately sent her two notes, one of them below. What happened
after, was fascinating.. First here is the note I sent her:

---MANIAC WRITES:

Screambabe,

I got your calls. I am still really upset about
how you behaved last week (basically going nuts
because you saw me talking to a girl, and thinking
like you own me..)

Just I dont know what to say, but I expect(ed)
better than that. If something upset you, you should
have stayed quiet (or at least respectful about it
if you wanted to come over to me, which is fine too),
and then talk about it later on the phone or something
if you wanted to talk about it..

.. but what you did was ENTIRELY out of line and
unreasonable..

I just dont know more what to say about it than
that..

Maniac

--END MANIAC WRITES----

--
[My other note was along the same lines, but much more
severe, and in more detail, if I find a copy of it, I
will post it too]

After blaming her for everything, and drilling it in,
Screambabe then replies:

---SCREAMBABE REPLIES (sorry about her fucked up English)

Thank you very much for your sincere mail.
I have been thinking of you and what I did so far.
I read your mail and now understand your feeling very well.

Yes, it was too soon, and of course you feel it is too much.

 As I told you, I am looking a person who might be my special person
in the future as well as just nice friends.
I think I started to think of you too seriously too soon just becausewe
had some relationship.

But I thought it over and over and now I think that I  should
have noticed that men are different from women (including the way of thinking
about such relationship).I am very sorry, Maniac.

I really enjoyed being with you and I could spend wonderful time withyou
though it was only twice.

After this incident happend, I really regreted what I did to you.
If you think OK that we can be just good friends, I would be very happy.
Thank you for your warm words on the phone. ....I am sorry that Icalled
you very late.I appreciate for this.This is my feeling.

I would be happy if you accept my feeling.and many many apologies to
you.

Screambabe

--END SCREAMBABE REPLY

So, now at least she wont be attacking me out in public anymore.. Now
there is more.. I did one fuckup, which actually, turned out in my benefit.
She asked me if I worked in xxx firm. I (figuring she already somehow knew I
did through friends or something) said I did. Turns out she did have a
friend there.

Now apparently, (I find out from bichick from that 'friday experiment in
psychology" (see post on ASF 0011 period) that a lady (which I concluded
was Screambabe) called her friend at my office there to find out about
me.
Of course, since I dont fuck around in the office, but flirt alot, all
the women there love me, think I rock totally. Her friend told other co-
workers about the incident.

But because I had already neutralized Screambabe, she didn't say bad
shit about me like I was two timing her or something, but rather she said
something like...

["I really like this guy, Maniac. He is so wonderful, and can
understand me
so well. But I worry that another girl (she is referring to HB Geek
now, who is better looking than screambabe, and younger too), is trying to take
is heart from me. But Maniac really knows how to treat a lady, and I just
dont know what to do, I really want him so bad..."   etc..etc.]

Well, of course this got around the office at speeds faster than light,
and guess what. Since two days ago, EVERY chick in the office is dying to
get me out and find out what makes me so great that I can get a chick into
such a stupor over me like this. They stop by my office, make sweet
talk, and ask me when I am free.. and the babes.. the 9s, the 10s.. the ones
who wouldnt even turn their head before, without alot of effort on my
part.. Chicks wink, and smile, and get giddy asking me for lunch, for
a beer outside after the office..etc.etc.. like this for a week now...

Bichick told me the whole office now knows the story about Screambabe
calling, and dying to have me again.. and told me that this has now
turned on all the chicks around me who have heard about it as to
"what ever it is that is so special about Maniac, I want it too!"

And that.. is social proof. Its power and strength has surprised even
me.. now I just need to figure out how to use it in 'safe' settings
(ie. outside the office, as I dont dare fuck anyone there, but it made
for a good experiment in social proof anyways).

Fascinating,
Constructive comments and opinions welcome,

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com



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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

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This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Taking control when things go wrong

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » feeling

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




-------

From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Using the ‘color’ game to PU!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

The New Maniac Plan 2002

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Copyright 2002, by Maniac High and the MH Group.
All rights reserved, this document, nor any portions can be
posted/reproduced without expressed written permission.

http://www.pickupguide.com

If you are in Tokyo, send me a note..
maniac_high@pickupguide.com

M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

--------------------------------------------

EVASIVE ACTION.. (ie, if it is not working out, try stuff from here)

------------------------------------------------------------

3p Lay Report! Maniac does a street PU and threesome!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

[020915]

Maniac does a street PU and threesome!  3p report!

I dont much write lay reports anymore, as they are all pretty much the same, and
formula based. Now the research is on to more interesting things.. like 
threesomes!!

Recently, I got together my first 'unplanned' threesome, with 2 chicks that
had never done one. Here is the report, and how I got it set up to happen!

The 2 chicks are Bibabe (she likes girls), and HBExciteMe (she likes anything
as long as it is on edge and exciting, be it bar fights, or inpulsive 
threesome with her acquantances she doesn't know real well).

I had known Bibabe for a few months, and already fucked her with a standard
new Maniac Plan lay routine. During a drinking pubnight I was debriefing her
and kidded her about a cute girl nearby, and that she should 'try her out',
as 'only a woman really knows how to treat a woman'. 

This is a test I used to see if she was bi/bicurious. She joked back 'maybe
I should take the chance!'. This is good (even as a joke), as non bi-curious
chicks will just react (blech! I like guys). Later that evening, the 'target'
went to the bathroom, and I suggested to Bibabe, 'here is your chance', go
see if she wants to go out with us after.    .. and Bibabe just got up, and
followed her in the bathroom! (no hesitation, anything!). Unfortunately,
when she got there, she stalled out, and didn't know what to say/how to
execute the PU.

Still, this was good, because it told me that: 
1)I got a bi-curious chick
2)She may have no experience, and is an AFC when it comes to PU.. but 
 she is not afraid, and is willing to try stuff on command... very very good,
 as I will be able to work with this.

I debriefed her some more after this later that evening, and she did say
that she was a bit curious about cute girls, but had never tried anything.
I jokingly suggested that I will help her get one, and she jokingly agreed.
(using 'jokes' in this way is a good way to 'test' people for unusual
preferences, as they can always back down and say they were 'joking' if they
feel threatened, but will play with the 'joke' otherwise. 

Ie. if you ask a Bi-curios chick directly 'Are you Bi', she will get defensive,
and say 'no', but if you kid about it the way I did above, if she goes
along with it, then it is her way of communicating (in a less risky way),
that she is possibly interested in what you are proposing. 

Then I told her my story about my ex-gf who was bi, and how she was so cool
and fun. That made it clear to her, that I accept such people, and that she
can feel more comfortable around me to talk about such things..

Same goes for talks about kink, group sex...whatever, use the same method
above if you want to get a chick into those topics/test for interest.

So, that evening, I told her, that I would do the PU for her, and to watch
me. So I go to the target, tell her that my GF and I like her, and want
her to come out with us for a pint after this party is over. The target says 
'OK'! The party ends, and we go up as a group, but the target's AFC friends
pull her away. The target was looking for reassurance from Bibabe (and not
just me, since it is more secure to have it coming from the girl, not the guy),
but Bibabe, being an AFC, failed to do this, so she left.

--
Fast forward to another pubnight a month later, different groups of friends.
We have some pints, and I joke to Bibabe, that 'I need to teach you how
to pick up a woman, because you ladies always have it just easy, and just
wait for the guys to come along, and do all the work'. Bibabe then asks me,
ok, teach me then. 

I then go into ASF/AFC basic training (ie. like what you see in my nMP/lay
reports on pickupguide.com) with her, and tell her what to do/not do. She
is very fascinated by it all.

Another month goes by, I meet her some times to fuck her, and joke about
getting her a nice girl, and she goes along with the joking. 

Then last week, another pubnight and dance at a nightclub in down, and I
run into Bibabe by chance in the place with her friends. We dance for a bit,
and I decide that I want to fuck Bibabe, so I extract her from there (no 
problem, since I already fucked her before).

We are then walking down the street to get a bite, and she runs into a
chick (HBExciteme) on the sidewalk that she sort of knew from the nightclub,
one of her friend's friends or something. She is very cute and sexy.

First I thought...shit.. now we are stuck with her fucking friend all night,
and I can't get bibabe home...   that thought lasted about.... 10 seconds..
then I thought.... THREESOME!!!!

From my chats with Bibabe, I knew that she would be willing to try something,
but probably AFC out, so I would need to direct everything so it wouldn't
fuck up. Thats ok though, I am a PUA, have experience, and had been working
on a threesome/3p PU plan (still very experimental), so no problem.

Also, this situation was better than the last time with the other target, 
because there were no other friends around to distract us, just me, Bibabe, and 
HBExciteme as the target we would gang up on to try to take home and fuck
together.

The basic plan was:
-get the 3 of us together in an Izakaya/beer pub, sitting down, in a way
 that the 2 chicks can pay attention to each other, and I am close enough to
 direct it.
-get HBExciteme to feel comfortable around Bibabe
-get them both to my place
-fuck them both

The place where we were was Roppongi (part of Tokyo), which these days,
has been totally infested by these illegal migrant Nigerian guys that 
always 'attack' single guys walking down the sidewalk, and try to drag 
them into expensive hostess clubs. So I first kid about this, and ask
each girl to 'protect me from them', and hold each of my hands out to
each girl.. each girl (Bibabe did first, and then social proof kicked in,
and HBExciteme took the other one) takes one of my hands. So now Kino has
already started, only 1 minute into the PU..cool. 

This is a trend the whole night actually, using one girl you already laid 
(Bibabe) as social proof/trendsetting to make the other girl (HBExciteme) 
do what I want, since now psychologically, it is 2 against 1, so social
pressure forces come much more into play against the target (especially
when one of us doing the PU is also a chick ('good cop' effect), than if it is
just you alone, against a target chick.

So the next thing I did was take them to a quiet beerpub (it is now 1am
now) in Roppongi, where I was. Usually, when I am one on one, I choose places
with counters, but this time, since there are 3, I wanted a table, so that
the 2 chicks could see each other, and I could direct it/be in earshot of both
at the same time. So a counter wouldn't work in this case.

Once we got in there, I sat down next to Bibabe (so I could hold her, feel
her up/get her excited, and also tell her what to do/say to the target, 
HBExciteme), and had HBExciteme sit directly facing Bibabe the other side
of the small table. 

From here, some regular nMP stuff on HBExciteme (job, tired, like beer?).

Then I ask into the ear of Bibabe (sitting next to me), "so do you like her?".
She whispers back "yes". I reply to her, "OK, just do what I tell you", and 
I start the PU.

Now what I do, is pay most of my facial/verbal attention to HBExcite me,
across the table, while visibly kino'ing Bibabe (holding her leg.., being
very physically close, tonguedowns to bibabe in front HBExciteme) 
The goal is to make HBExciteme a bit physically aroused and jealous
by the show in front of her, and then letting her release that, by allowing
her to give/express attention (to Bibabe) at a moment I decide later on when
I want to close the PU.

Now I begin... After a few 'cheers' of beer, and kino'ing/KC'ing Bibabe
I get things deeper with HBExciteme by asking her (see nMP for this and
other routines, on my www.pickupguide.com homepage) "So tell me HBExciteme,
are you the type who likes romance, or the type who likes excitement?"
(the goal here, is to ask a double bind question, with the answer I want/expect
to be the last choice).

As expected, HBExciteme replies "excitment, definately excitement". Ok,
so far so good (I turn and KC Bibabe in front of her). Now I play the
strawberry game with HBexciteme (see webpage for it). Her answers are
fence: 1 meter
# of berries: don't care at all/not so much
feeling to farmer: nothing special/don't care

This was interesting, as it wasn't really any response at all to the game.
In retrospect, this is what HBExciteme was like though overall. Not very
reactive/proactive to anything, but on the other hand, anything that might
happen (ie. getting fucked later that night), is ok, and whatever happens
just happens and that is OK with her.

Now I take the hand of HBExciteme (it was on the table in front of me),
and remark on how small and gentle it is, and the nailcolor (red), and
how it matched those of Bibabe (was also red). Then I put both their hands
together, to compare each other's color and size. HBExciteme didn't retract
at this point, which was a good sign.

Now I decide to let them get to know each other a bit without me, and get
comfortable in that girls only way. So I say "I am going to the bathroom,
but will be back, you two wait here for me", and then I take each of their
hands, and put Bibabes hand on top of HBExciteme's hand on the table, and
leave them that way when I get up to go to the bathroom.

I get back, and Bibabe is still holding HBExciteme's hand while talking to
her... very very good sign!

I sit down, and then seperate their hands, and take each girls hand in each
of my hands, so I am holding both of them.. still no bad reaction from
HBExciteme (now she is happy to not be getting left out of all the kino
I figure, and probably is happy that Bibabe is sharing me with her so she
doesn't feel like the '3rd wheel' anymore)... so far so good.

I ask Bibabe again (confirm), "you like her"? Bibabe: "yes". ... good too.

I now ask HBExciteme "so what is your type of guy"? She tells me a guy
who leads, and otherwise OK. Sounds good. At that point, HBExciteme takes
her leg, and puts it on top of mine under the table (while I am still
holding the hands of both girls).

This my friends, is the closing sign! HBExciteme, accepts Bibabe, and wants
to fuck me, and Bibabe is also in on it. Cool!

I say "lets go" (I *do not* say where we are going, and neither girl asks me).

We get down to the street (I take hand of each girl again, in the street, 
like before), and I flag a taxi. I still don't say where we are going, and
neither girl asks (well, Bibabe knows what will happen, and HBExciteme
seems to have figured it out without anyone telling her explicitly ;-)  ).

We get in the taxi, and I sit in the front seat, and put the 2 girls in the
back. I expect.. (and am not disappointed from how I saw Bibabe with HBExciteme
in the pub) Bibabe to start to kino and feelup HBExciteme in the back of the
cab. Needless to say I am not disappointed, I trained Bibabe well for this
mission in the past month.. that taxi driver must have been surprised by
what he saw in the mirror though!

It was a nice sight to watch that all the way home, and the taxi driver,
like a good mannered Japanese staff to his clients, feigned ignorance of the
whole thing ;-), courteous and restrained right to the end of the trip.

We get to my house and I worry that if a freakout will happen, it will be
here, and that HBExciteme will insist to stay in the living room, or something.

So what I did, is take HBExciteme's hand (and not Bibabe), so she gets the
special attention (for now), and take her up to my room. Bibabe is behind
(and in on the scam), and says nothing/looks calm to HBExciteme. I leave
HBExciteme in the room by herself, and I go down to Bibabe downstairs.

At this point, HBexciteme might not know if we were going to stay there,
so that way she cannot freak out, that was the intent of doing it this way.

A couple minutes later, Bibabe and I come up. We are both happy to see
that rather than sleep in all her clothes, HBExciteme has stripped down to
her Tback Thong bikini, and is lying down on the futon waiting for us;
just relaxed.  Wow! That was very cool..

Bibabe and I strip down, and get in the futon next to her (arent tatami
rooms great! room for all!).

I start touching/feeling up HBExciteme a bit, and she doesnt react bad at all,
just she lets me do it, and makes erotic sounds as I reach into her
private places, and she starts shrieking and wriggling all around.

Now here though, is where things got a little edgy.. because this made
Bibabe a bit jealous. Bibabe is cute, but HBExciteme is definately a
babe, very sexy, and attractive, especially wearing only that Tback Thong.
Bibabe somehow, was uncomfortable about this, and was getting a bit irritated
when I gave attention to HBExciteme.

So I stopped playing with HBExciteme, and fucked Bibabe silly instead, with 
HBExciteme next to me (she didn't mind this at all, it turns out).

After that was done, I hugged them both, and played with them both a bit.
Bibabe still got a bit irritated when I would give attention to HBExciteme,
and then decided she wasn't interested in HBExciteme as much anymore.
I told Bibabe that I wanted to fuck HBExciteme, and that she was really
sexy looking (Bibabe agreed, and that I think also irritated her a bit
it turns out). 

I suggested to Bibabe that I got her this nice woman for the evening, and
she is game on, so why doesn't she try her out. But she didn't want to
anymore, besides what she did to her in the cab, and when we first got in
the house.

HBExciteme, heard all this whispering, but was just relaxed about it, lying 
on the bed with her thong.

Bibabe finally said that I should fuck HBExciteme, so I did in the morning.
She was a good fuck, very sexy..babe. (I didn't know her name though,
still, as it was Bibabe's friend's friend, and I had forgot the name she
said in the bar). SHe works out or something, very firm body, no fat, sexy
and curvy in all the right places.... babe.

I could touch HBExciteme/do her anywhere, no resistance, just
shaking and erotic sounds as I did her. The only thing is HBExciteme didn't 
want me to kiss her on the lips, but anything else licking/feeling up/fucking 
related was totally OK and uninhibited... odd..

In the morning, Bibabe left as she had an appointment someplace, gave me a 
tonguedown in front of HBExciteme in the tatami bedroom, and went home.

I then played with and fucked HBExciteme some more, just the two of us, 
and then took her to the train station after.

n
I debriefed and asked what HBExciteme felt about the evening, and she said that 
she liked it, had never done that, but felt bad that Bibabe was a bit
jealous, that it seem I am her boyfriend. But it was OK. Somehow she was very
calm about it all, very surreal, but it was cool though..

I took her to the trainstation, and then never saw her again. I didn't ask
her email/phone, and she didn't ask mine (adds to the mystery of it I
suppose ;-) )!.

--

The next day I talked to Bibabe, and she was a bit nervous, about what the
reaction of HBExciteme was, and more, if she might tell her common friends
what happened with the 3 of us. I told her that it was very unlikely, and that
it was just the secret of the 3 of us. That calmed her down alot. Then I 
asked Bibabe what she thought of it all, and said she liked it, though it was 
the first time, and she was nervous about it all, and who might find out, which 
was why she wasn't as liberal at playing with HBExciteme as she actually 
wanted to be the previous night.

I told her that we would go out another night, and pickup another girlfriend
off the street to playwith for another adventure. She said she is looking
very forward to that evening! Fucking awesome! . .


--

What I learned:

-It helps alot to prepare one of the chicks ahead of time with the plan,
so she can help you execute it (or at least not fuck it up). This is crucial,
and adds a large degree of control to the situation that is otherwise absent,
and in the end, greatly improves the success rate.

-Like a regular PU, it is also helpful to have a PU plan ready, with steps
 (kino, tables (not counters) and seating arrangements thought out, the 
 games to use/gimmicks (nigerians, hands and the bathroom..etc), that can
 be used to advance things. This preparation was very valuable.

-Social proof effects are very powerful in 3p situations, where one of the
 chicks is in on the scam. HBexciteme I dont think is bi (just anything is
 OK), and had it been just me, I dont think I could have laid her, but with
 the social proof/peer pressure, things like getting her home/into the bedroom
 almost naked became trivially easy. Social proof effects will work way against
 you if you didn't prepare one of the chicks, but will work way in your 
 favor if you did prepare one of the chicks... so use that to your advantage!

-Jokes as tests: ie. the bi jokes above I used to scope out Bibabe when
 I met her.. important to determinate what a chick will likely do/not do.

-Jealousy: I remember TPUA had a similar 3P experience a while back, and
 jealousy between the chicks was also a bit of an issue. I need to do the
 set up for this better with the other 'hunter' chick next time I execute the
 plan.

So there you go!

THE END!

Opinion/comments welcome!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

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Social Proof Report! A screambabe Sequel!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

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From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:50:12 GMT

Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
001127

This report is a sequel to the Screambabe-HBgeek chance meeting
story I posted last week. It is turning out to be a stunning
example in social proof.

Essentially, I was in a bar with HBGeek, doing the ManiacPlan
on her (see my website). I was at stage 'S' (heavy kino, the
sexual question game) when Screambabe (a chick I am already
shagging who happened to be in the bar watching me without me
knowing, came by to interrupt us and cause shit.. see the
report for the details).

First what I did was to contain the 'reaction' after this happened
so that my chance with HBGeek (or any other chick) wouldnt get
ruined by Screambabe spreading bad things about me around, or
stalking my house or something like that.

So I (rightfully so) blamed the whole incident on her, and
immediately sent her two notes, one of them below. What happened
after, was fascinating.. First here is the note I sent her:

---MANIAC WRITES:

Screambabe,

I got your calls. I am still really upset about
how you behaved last week (basically going nuts
because you saw me talking to a girl, and thinking
like you own me..)

Just I dont know what to say, but I expect(ed)
better than that. If something upset you, you should
have stayed quiet (or at least respectful about it
if you wanted to come over to me, which is fine too),
and then talk about it later on the phone or something
if you wanted to talk about it..

.. but what you did was ENTIRELY out of line and
unreasonable..

I just dont know more what to say about it than
that..

Maniac

--END MANIAC WRITES----

--
[My other note was along the same lines, but much more
severe, and in more detail, if I find a copy of it, I
will post it too]

After blaming her for everything, and drilling it in,
Screambabe then replies:

---SCREAMBABE REPLIES (sorry about her fucked up English)

Thank you very much for your sincere mail.
I have been thinking of you and what I did so far.
I read your mail and now understand your feeling very well.

Yes, it was too soon, and of course you feel it is too much.

 As I told you, I am looking a person who might be my special person
in the future as well as just nice friends.
I think I started to think of you too seriously too soon just becausewe
had some relationship.

But I thought it over and over and now I think that I  should
have noticed that men are different from women (including the way of thinking
about such relationship).I am very sorry, Maniac.

I really enjoyed being with you and I could spend wonderful time withyou
though it was only twice.

After this incident happend, I really regreted what I did to you.
If you think OK that we can be just good friends, I would be very happy.
Thank you for your warm words on the phone. ....I am sorry that Icalled
you very late.I appreciate for this.This is my feeling.

I would be happy if you accept my feeling.and many many apologies to
you.

Screambabe

--END SCREAMBABE REPLY

So, now at least she wont be attacking me out in public anymore.. Now
there is more.. I did one fuckup, which actually, turned out in my benefit.
She asked me if I worked in xxx firm. I (figuring she already somehow knew I
did through friends or something) said I did. Turns out she did have a
friend there.

Now apparently, (I find out from bichick from that 'friday experiment in
psychology" (see post on ASF 0011 period) that a lady (which I concluded
was Screambabe) called her friend at my office there to find out about
me.
Of course, since I dont fuck around in the office, but flirt alot, all
the women there love me, think I rock totally. Her friend told other co-
workers about the incident.

But because I had already neutralized Screambabe, she didn't say bad
shit about me like I was two timing her or something, but rather she said
something like...

["I really like this guy, Maniac. He is so wonderful, and can
understand me
so well. But I worry that another girl (she is referring to HB Geek
now, who is better looking than screambabe, and younger too), is trying to take
is heart from me. But Maniac really knows how to treat a lady, and I just
dont know what to do, I really want him so bad..."   etc..etc.]

Well, of course this got around the office at speeds faster than light,
and guess what. Since two days ago, EVERY chick in the office is dying to
get me out and find out what makes me so great that I can get a chick into
such a stupor over me like this. They stop by my office, make sweet
talk, and ask me when I am free.. and the babes.. the 9s, the 10s.. the ones
who wouldnt even turn their head before, without alot of effort on my
part.. Chicks wink, and smile, and get giddy asking me for lunch, for
a beer outside after the office..etc.etc.. like this for a week now...

Bichick told me the whole office now knows the story about Screambabe
calling, and dying to have me again.. and told me that this has now
turned on all the chicks around me who have heard about it as to
"what ever it is that is so special about Maniac, I want it too!"

And that.. is social proof. Its power and strength has surprised even
me.. now I just need to figure out how to use it in 'safe' settings
(ie. outside the office, as I dont dare fuck anyone there, but it made
for a good experiment in social proof anyways).

Fascinating,
Constructive comments and opinions welcome,

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Taking control when things go wrong

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Copyright 2002, by Maniac High and the MH Group.
All rights reserved, this document, nor any portions can be
posted/reproduced without expressed written permission.

http://www.pickupguide.com

If you are in Tokyo, send me a note..
maniac_high@pickupguide.com

M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

--------------------------------------------

EVASIVE ACTION.. (ie, if it is not working out, try stuff from here)

------------------------------------------------------------

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » feeling

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Using the ‘color’ game to PU!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

The New Maniac Plan 2002

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Copyright 2002, by Maniac High and the MH Group.
All rights reserved, this document, nor any portions can be
posted/reproduced without expressed written permission.

http://www.pickupguide.com

If you are in Tokyo, send me a note..
maniac_high@pickupguide.com

M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

--------------------------------------------

EVASIVE ACTION.. (ie, if it is not working out, try stuff from here)

------------------------------------------------------------

3p Lay Report! Maniac does a street PU and threesome!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

[020915]

Maniac does a street PU and threesome!  3p report!

I dont much write lay reports anymore, as they are all pretty much the same, and
formula based. Now the research is on to more interesting things.. like 
threesomes!!

Recently, I got together my first 'unplanned' threesome, with 2 chicks that
had never done one. Here is the report, and how I got it set up to happen!

The 2 chicks are Bibabe (she likes girls), and HBExciteMe (she likes anything
as long as it is on edge and exciting, be it bar fights, or inpulsive 
threesome with her acquantances she doesn't know real well).

I had known Bibabe for a few months, and already fucked her with a standard
new Maniac Plan lay routine. During a drinking pubnight I was debriefing her
and kidded her about a cute girl nearby, and that she should 'try her out',
as 'only a woman really knows how to treat a woman'. 

This is a test I used to see if she was bi/bicurious. She joked back 'maybe
I should take the chance!'. This is good (even as a joke), as non bi-curious
chicks will just react (blech! I like guys). Later that evening, the 'target'
went to the bathroom, and I suggested to Bibabe, 'here is your chance', go
see if she wants to go out with us after.    .. and Bibabe just got up, and
followed her in the bathroom! (no hesitation, anything!). Unfortunately,
when she got there, she stalled out, and didn't know what to say/how to
execute the PU.

Still, this was good, because it told me that: 
1)I got a bi-curious chick
2)She may have no experience, and is an AFC when it comes to PU.. but 
 she is not afraid, and is willing to try stuff on command... very very good,
 as I will be able to work with this.

I debriefed her some more after this later that evening, and she did say
that she was a bit curious about cute girls, but had never tried anything.
I jokingly suggested that I will help her get one, and she jokingly agreed.
(using 'jokes' in this way is a good way to 'test' people for unusual
preferences, as they can always back down and say they were 'joking' if they
feel threatened, but will play with the 'joke' otherwise. 

Ie. if you ask a Bi-curios chick directly 'Are you Bi', she will get defensive,
and say 'no', but if you kid about it the way I did above, if she goes
along with it, then it is her way of communicating (in a less risky way),
that she is possibly interested in what you are proposing. 

Then I told her my story about my ex-gf who was bi, and how she was so cool
and fun. That made it clear to her, that I accept such people, and that she
can feel more comfortable around me to talk about such things..

Same goes for talks about kink, group sex...whatever, use the same method
above if you want to get a chick into those topics/test for interest.

So, that evening, I told her, that I would do the PU for her, and to watch
me. So I go to the target, tell her that my GF and I like her, and want
her to come out with us for a pint after this party is over. The target says 
'OK'! The party ends, and we go up as a group, but the target's AFC friends
pull her away. The target was looking for reassurance from Bibabe (and not
just me, since it is more secure to have it coming from the girl, not the guy),
but Bibabe, being an AFC, failed to do this, so she left.

--
Fast forward to another pubnight a month later, different groups of friends.
We have some pints, and I joke to Bibabe, that 'I need to teach you how
to pick up a woman, because you ladies always have it just easy, and just
wait for the guys to come along, and do all the work'. Bibabe then asks me,
ok, teach me then. 

I then go into ASF/AFC basic training (ie. like what you see in my nMP/lay
reports on pickupguide.com) with her, and tell her what to do/not do. She
is very fascinated by it all.

Another month goes by, I meet her some times to fuck her, and joke about
getting her a nice girl, and she goes along with the joking. 

Then last week, another pubnight and dance at a nightclub in down, and I
run into Bibabe by chance in the place with her friends. We dance for a bit,
and I decide that I want to fuck Bibabe, so I extract her from there (no 
problem, since I already fucked her before).

We are then walking down the street to get a bite, and she runs into a
chick (HBExciteme) on the sidewalk that she sort of knew from the nightclub,
one of her friend's friends or something. She is very cute and sexy.

First I thought...shit.. now we are stuck with her fucking friend all night,
and I can't get bibabe home...   that thought lasted about.... 10 seconds..
then I thought.... THREESOME!!!!

From my chats with Bibabe, I knew that she would be willing to try something,
but probably AFC out, so I would need to direct everything so it wouldn't
fuck up. Thats ok though, I am a PUA, have experience, and had been working
on a threesome/3p PU plan (still very experimental), so no problem.

Also, this situation was better than the last time with the other target, 
because there were no other friends around to distract us, just me, Bibabe, and 
HBExciteme as the target we would gang up on to try to take home and fuck
together.

The basic plan was:
-get the 3 of us together in an Izakaya/beer pub, sitting down, in a way
 that the 2 chicks can pay attention to each other, and I am close enough to
 direct it.
-get HBExciteme to feel comfortable around Bibabe
-get them both to my place
-fuck them both

The place where we were was Roppongi (part of Tokyo), which these days,
has been totally infested by these illegal migrant Nigerian guys that 
always 'attack' single guys walking down the sidewalk, and try to drag 
them into expensive hostess clubs. So I first kid about this, and ask
each girl to 'protect me from them', and hold each of my hands out to
each girl.. each girl (Bibabe did first, and then social proof kicked in,
and HBExciteme took the other one) takes one of my hands. So now Kino has
already started, only 1 minute into the PU..cool. 

This is a trend the whole night actually, using one girl you already laid 
(Bibabe) as social proof/trendsetting to make the other girl (HBExciteme) 
do what I want, since now psychologically, it is 2 against 1, so social
pressure forces come much more into play against the target (especially
when one of us doing the PU is also a chick ('good cop' effect), than if it is
just you alone, against a target chick.

So the next thing I did was take them to a quiet beerpub (it is now 1am
now) in Roppongi, where I was. Usually, when I am one on one, I choose places
with counters, but this time, since there are 3, I wanted a table, so that
the 2 chicks could see each other, and I could direct it/be in earshot of both
at the same time. So a counter wouldn't work in this case.

Once we got in there, I sat down next to Bibabe (so I could hold her, feel
her up/get her excited, and also tell her what to do/say to the target, 
HBExciteme), and had HBExciteme sit directly facing Bibabe the other side
of the small table. 

From here, some regular nMP stuff on HBExciteme (job, tired, like beer?).

Then I ask into the ear of Bibabe (sitting next to me), "so do you like her?".
She whispers back "yes". I reply to her, "OK, just do what I tell you", and 
I start the PU.

Now what I do, is pay most of my facial/verbal attention to HBExcite me,
across the table, while visibly kino'ing Bibabe (holding her leg.., being
very physically close, tonguedowns to bibabe in front HBExciteme) 
The goal is to make HBExciteme a bit physically aroused and jealous
by the show in front of her, and then letting her release that, by allowing
her to give/express attention (to Bibabe) at a moment I decide later on when
I want to close the PU.

Now I begin... After a few 'cheers' of beer, and kino'ing/KC'ing Bibabe
I get things deeper with HBExciteme by asking her (see nMP for this and
other routines, on my www.pickupguide.com homepage) "So tell me HBExciteme,
are you the type who likes romance, or the type who likes excitement?"
(the goal here, is to ask a double bind question, with the answer I want/expect
to be the last choice).

As expected, HBExciteme replies "excitment, definately excitement". Ok,
so far so good (I turn and KC Bibabe in front of her). Now I play the
strawberry game with HBexciteme (see webpage for it). Her answers are
fence: 1 meter
# of berries: don't care at all/not so much
feeling to farmer: nothing special/don't care

This was interesting, as it wasn't really any response at all to the game.
In retrospect, this is what HBExciteme was like though overall. Not very
reactive/proactive to anything, but on the other hand, anything that might
happen (ie. getting fucked later that night), is ok, and whatever happens
just happens and that is OK with her.

Now I take the hand of HBExciteme (it was on the table in front of me),
and remark on how small and gentle it is, and the nailcolor (red), and
how it matched those of Bibabe (was also red). Then I put both their hands
together, to compare each other's color and size. HBExciteme didn't retract
at this point, which was a good sign.

Now I decide to let them get to know each other a bit without me, and get
comfortable in that girls only way. So I say "I am going to the bathroom,
but will be back, you two wait here for me", and then I take each of their
hands, and put Bibabes hand on top of HBExciteme's hand on the table, and
leave them that way when I get up to go to the bathroom.

I get back, and Bibabe is still holding HBExciteme's hand while talking to
her... very very good sign!

I sit down, and then seperate their hands, and take each girls hand in each
of my hands, so I am holding both of them.. still no bad reaction from
HBExciteme (now she is happy to not be getting left out of all the kino
I figure, and probably is happy that Bibabe is sharing me with her so she
doesn't feel like the '3rd wheel' anymore)... so far so good.

I ask Bibabe again (confirm), "you like her"? Bibabe: "yes". ... good too.

I now ask HBExciteme "so what is your type of guy"? She tells me a guy
who leads, and otherwise OK. Sounds good. At that point, HBExciteme takes
her leg, and puts it on top of mine under the table (while I am still
holding the hands of both girls).

This my friends, is the closing sign! HBExciteme, accepts Bibabe, and wants
to fuck me, and Bibabe is also in on it. Cool!

I say "lets go" (I *do not* say where we are going, and neither girl asks me).

We get down to the street (I take hand of each girl again, in the street, 
like before), and I flag a taxi. I still don't say where we are going, and
neither girl asks (well, Bibabe knows what will happen, and HBExciteme
seems to have figured it out without anyone telling her explicitly ;-)  ).

We get in the taxi, and I sit in the front seat, and put the 2 girls in the
back. I expect.. (and am not disappointed from how I saw Bibabe with HBExciteme
in the pub) Bibabe to start to kino and feelup HBExciteme in the back of the
cab. Needless to say I am not disappointed, I trained Bibabe well for this
mission in the past month.. that taxi driver must have been surprised by
what he saw in the mirror though!

It was a nice sight to watch that all the way home, and the taxi driver,
like a good mannered Japanese staff to his clients, feigned ignorance of the
whole thing ;-), courteous and restrained right to the end of the trip.

We get to my house and I worry that if a freakout will happen, it will be
here, and that HBExciteme will insist to stay in the living room, or something.

So what I did, is take HBExciteme's hand (and not Bibabe), so she gets the
special attention (for now), and take her up to my room. Bibabe is behind
(and in on the scam), and says nothing/looks calm to HBExciteme. I leave
HBExciteme in the room by herself, and I go down to Bibabe downstairs.

At this point, HBexciteme might not know if we were going to stay there,
so that way she cannot freak out, that was the intent of doing it this way.

A couple minutes later, Bibabe and I come up. We are both happy to see
that rather than sleep in all her clothes, HBExciteme has stripped down to
her Tback Thong bikini, and is lying down on the futon waiting for us;
just relaxed.  Wow! That was very cool..

Bibabe and I strip down, and get in the futon next to her (arent tatami
rooms great! room for all!).

I start touching/feeling up HBExciteme a bit, and she doesnt react bad at all,
just she lets me do it, and makes erotic sounds as I reach into her
private places, and she starts shrieking and wriggling all around.

Now here though, is where things got a little edgy.. because this made
Bibabe a bit jealous. Bibabe is cute, but HBExciteme is definately a
babe, very sexy, and attractive, especially wearing only that Tback Thong.
Bibabe somehow, was uncomfortable about this, and was getting a bit irritated
when I gave attention to HBExciteme.

So I stopped playing with HBExciteme, and fucked Bibabe silly instead, with 
HBExciteme next to me (she didn't mind this at all, it turns out).

After that was done, I hugged them both, and played with them both a bit.
Bibabe still got a bit irritated when I would give attention to HBExciteme,
and then decided she wasn't interested in HBExciteme as much anymore.
I told Bibabe that I wanted to fuck HBExciteme, and that she was really
sexy looking (Bibabe agreed, and that I think also irritated her a bit
it turns out). 

I suggested to Bibabe that I got her this nice woman for the evening, and
she is game on, so why doesn't she try her out. But she didn't want to
anymore, besides what she did to her in the cab, and when we first got in
the house.

HBExciteme, heard all this whispering, but was just relaxed about it, lying 
on the bed with her thong.

Bibabe finally said that I should fuck HBExciteme, so I did in the morning.
She was a good fuck, very sexy..babe. (I didn't know her name though,
still, as it was Bibabe's friend's friend, and I had forgot the name she
said in the bar). SHe works out or something, very firm body, no fat, sexy
and curvy in all the right places.... babe.

I could touch HBExciteme/do her anywhere, no resistance, just
shaking and erotic sounds as I did her. The only thing is HBExciteme didn't 
want me to kiss her on the lips, but anything else licking/feeling up/fucking 
related was totally OK and uninhibited... odd..

In the morning, Bibabe left as she had an appointment someplace, gave me a 
tonguedown in front of HBExciteme in the tatami bedroom, and went home.

I then played with and fucked HBExciteme some more, just the two of us, 
and then took her to the train station after.

n
I debriefed and asked what HBExciteme felt about the evening, and she said that 
she liked it, had never done that, but felt bad that Bibabe was a bit
jealous, that it seem I am her boyfriend. But it was OK. Somehow she was very
calm about it all, very surreal, but it was cool though..

I took her to the trainstation, and then never saw her again. I didn't ask
her email/phone, and she didn't ask mine (adds to the mystery of it I
suppose ;-) )!.

--

The next day I talked to Bibabe, and she was a bit nervous, about what the
reaction of HBExciteme was, and more, if she might tell her common friends
what happened with the 3 of us. I told her that it was very unlikely, and that
it was just the secret of the 3 of us. That calmed her down alot. Then I 
asked Bibabe what she thought of it all, and said she liked it, though it was 
the first time, and she was nervous about it all, and who might find out, which 
was why she wasn't as liberal at playing with HBExciteme as she actually 
wanted to be the previous night.

I told her that we would go out another night, and pickup another girlfriend
off the street to playwith for another adventure. She said she is looking
very forward to that evening! Fucking awesome! . .


--

What I learned:

-It helps alot to prepare one of the chicks ahead of time with the plan,
so she can help you execute it (or at least not fuck it up). This is crucial,
and adds a large degree of control to the situation that is otherwise absent,
and in the end, greatly improves the success rate.

-Like a regular PU, it is also helpful to have a PU plan ready, with steps
 (kino, tables (not counters) and seating arrangements thought out, the 
 games to use/gimmicks (nigerians, hands and the bathroom..etc), that can
 be used to advance things. This preparation was very valuable.

-Social proof effects are very powerful in 3p situations, where one of the
 chicks is in on the scam. HBexciteme I dont think is bi (just anything is
 OK), and had it been just me, I dont think I could have laid her, but with
 the social proof/peer pressure, things like getting her home/into the bedroom
 almost naked became trivially easy. Social proof effects will work way against
 you if you didn't prepare one of the chicks, but will work way in your 
 favor if you did prepare one of the chicks... so use that to your advantage!

-Jokes as tests: ie. the bi jokes above I used to scope out Bibabe when
 I met her.. important to determinate what a chick will likely do/not do.

-Jealousy: I remember TPUA had a similar 3P experience a while back, and
 jealousy between the chicks was also a bit of an issue. I need to do the
 set up for this better with the other 'hunter' chick next time I execute the
 plan.

So there you go!

THE END!

Opinion/comments welcome!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

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Social Proof Report! A screambabe Sequel!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:50:12 GMT

Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
001127

This report is a sequel to the Screambabe-HBgeek chance meeting
story I posted last week. It is turning out to be a stunning
example in social proof.

Essentially, I was in a bar with HBGeek, doing the ManiacPlan
on her (see my website). I was at stage 'S' (heavy kino, the
sexual question game) when Screambabe (a chick I am already
shagging who happened to be in the bar watching me without me
knowing, came by to interrupt us and cause shit.. see the
report for the details).

First what I did was to contain the 'reaction' after this happened
so that my chance with HBGeek (or any other chick) wouldnt get
ruined by Screambabe spreading bad things about me around, or
stalking my house or something like that.

So I (rightfully so) blamed the whole incident on her, and
immediately sent her two notes, one of them below. What happened
after, was fascinating.. First here is the note I sent her:

---MANIAC WRITES:

Screambabe,

I got your calls. I am still really upset about
how you behaved last week (basically going nuts
because you saw me talking to a girl, and thinking
like you own me..)

Just I dont know what to say, but I expect(ed)
better than that. If something upset you, you should
have stayed quiet (or at least respectful about it
if you wanted to come over to me, which is fine too),
and then talk about it later on the phone or something
if you wanted to talk about it..

.. but what you did was ENTIRELY out of line and
unreasonable..

I just dont know more what to say about it than
that..

Maniac

--END MANIAC WRITES----

--
[My other note was along the same lines, but much more
severe, and in more detail, if I find a copy of it, I
will post it too]

After blaming her for everything, and drilling it in,
Screambabe then replies:

---SCREAMBABE REPLIES (sorry about her fucked up English)

Thank you very much for your sincere mail.
I have been thinking of you and what I did so far.
I read your mail and now understand your feeling very well.

Yes, it was too soon, and of course you feel it is too much.

 As I told you, I am looking a person who might be my special person
in the future as well as just nice friends.
I think I started to think of you too seriously too soon just becausewe
had some relationship.

But I thought it over and over and now I think that I  should
have noticed that men are different from women (including the way of thinking
about such relationship).I am very sorry, Maniac.

I really enjoyed being with you and I could spend wonderful time withyou
though it was only twice.

After this incident happend, I really regreted what I did to you.
If you think OK that we can be just good friends, I would be very happy.
Thank you for your warm words on the phone. ....I am sorry that Icalled
you very late.I appreciate for this.This is my feeling.

I would be happy if you accept my feeling.and many many apologies to
you.

Screambabe

--END SCREAMBABE REPLY

So, now at least she wont be attacking me out in public anymore.. Now
there is more.. I did one fuckup, which actually, turned out in my benefit.
She asked me if I worked in xxx firm. I (figuring she already somehow knew I
did through friends or something) said I did. Turns out she did have a
friend there.

Now apparently, (I find out from bichick from that 'friday experiment in
psychology" (see post on ASF 0011 period) that a lady (which I concluded
was Screambabe) called her friend at my office there to find out about
me.
Of course, since I dont fuck around in the office, but flirt alot, all
the women there love me, think I rock totally. Her friend told other co-
workers about the incident.

But because I had already neutralized Screambabe, she didn't say bad
shit about me like I was two timing her or something, but rather she said
something like...

["I really like this guy, Maniac. He is so wonderful, and can
understand me
so well. But I worry that another girl (she is referring to HB Geek
now, who is better looking than screambabe, and younger too), is trying to take
is heart from me. But Maniac really knows how to treat a lady, and I just
dont know what to do, I really want him so bad..."   etc..etc.]

Well, of course this got around the office at speeds faster than light,
and guess what. Since two days ago, EVERY chick in the office is dying to
get me out and find out what makes me so great that I can get a chick into
such a stupor over me like this. They stop by my office, make sweet
talk, and ask me when I am free.. and the babes.. the 9s, the 10s.. the ones
who wouldnt even turn their head before, without alot of effort on my
part.. Chicks wink, and smile, and get giddy asking me for lunch, for
a beer outside after the office..etc.etc.. like this for a week now...

Bichick told me the whole office now knows the story about Screambabe
calling, and dying to have me again.. and told me that this has now
turned on all the chicks around me who have heard about it as to
"what ever it is that is so special about Maniac, I want it too!"

And that.. is social proof. Its power and strength has surprised even
me.. now I just need to figure out how to use it in 'safe' settings
(ie. outside the office, as I dont dare fuck anyone there, but it made
for a good experiment in social proof anyways).

Fascinating,
Constructive comments and opinions welcome,

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Taking control when things go wrong

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

[020915]

Maniac does a street PU and threesome!  3p report!

I dont much write lay reports anymore, as they are all pretty much the same, and
formula based. Now the research is on to more interesting things.. like 
threesomes!!

Recently, I got together my first 'unplanned' threesome, with 2 chicks that
had never done one. Here is the report, and how I got it set up to happen!

The 2 chicks are Bibabe (she likes girls), and HBExciteMe (she likes anything
as long as it is on edge and exciting, be it bar fights, or inpulsive 
threesome with her acquantances she doesn't know real well).

I had known Bibabe for a few months, and already fucked her with a standard
new Maniac Plan lay routine. During a drinking pubnight I was debriefing her
and kidded her about a cute girl nearby, and that she should 'try her out',
as 'only a woman really knows how to treat a woman'. 

This is a test I used to see if she was bi/bicurious. She joked back 'maybe
I should take the chance!'. This is good (even as a joke), as non bi-curious
chicks will just react (blech! I like guys). Later that evening, the 'target'
went to the bathroom, and I suggested to Bibabe, 'here is your chance', go
see if she wants to go out with us after.    .. and Bibabe just got up, and
followed her in the bathroom! (no hesitation, anything!). Unfortunately,
when she got there, she stalled out, and didn't know what to say/how to
execute the PU.

Still, this was good, because it told me that: 
1)I got a bi-curious chick
2)She may have no experience, and is an AFC when it comes to PU.. but 
 she is not afraid, and is willing to try stuff on command... very very good,
 as I will be able to work with this.

I debriefed her some more after this later that evening, and she did say
that she was a bit curious about cute girls, but had never tried anything.
I jokingly suggested that I will help her get one, and she jokingly agreed.
(using 'jokes' in this way is a good way to 'test' people for unusual
preferences, as they can always back down and say they were 'joking' if they
feel threatened, but will play with the 'joke' otherwise. 

Ie. if you ask a Bi-curios chick directly 'Are you Bi', she will get defensive,
and say 'no', but if you kid about it the way I did above, if she goes
along with it, then it is her way of communicating (in a less risky way),
that she is possibly interested in what you are proposing. 

Then I told her my story about my ex-gf who was bi, and how she was so cool
and fun. That made it clear to her, that I accept such people, and that she
can feel more comfortable around me to talk about such things..

Same goes for talks about kink, group sex...whatever, use the same method
above if you want to get a chick into those topics/test for interest.

So, that evening, I told her, that I would do the PU for her, and to watch
me. So I go to the target, tell her that my GF and I like her, and want
her to come out with us for a pint after this party is over. The target says 
'OK'! The party ends, and we go up as a group, but the target's AFC friends
pull her away. The target was looking for reassurance from Bibabe (and not
just me, since it is more secure to have it coming from the girl, not the guy),
but Bibabe, being an AFC, failed to do this, so she left.

--
Fast forward to another pubnight a month later, different groups of friends.
We have some pints, and I joke to Bibabe, that 'I need to teach you how
to pick up a woman, because you ladies always have it just easy, and just
wait for the guys to come along, and do all the work'. Bibabe then asks me,
ok, teach me then. 

I then go into ASF/AFC basic training (ie. like what you see in my nMP/lay
reports on pickupguide.com) with her, and tell her what to do/not do. She
is very fascinated by it all.

Another month goes by, I meet her some times to fuck her, and joke about
getting her a nice girl, and she goes along with the joking. 

Then last week, another pubnight and dance at a nightclub in down, and I
run into Bibabe by chance in the place with her friends. We dance for a bit,
and I decide that I want to fuck Bibabe, so I extract her from there (no 
problem, since I already fucked her before).

We are then walking down the street to get a bite, and she runs into a
chick (HBExciteme) on the sidewalk that she sort of knew from the nightclub,
one of her friend's friends or something. She is very cute and sexy.

First I thought...shit.. now we are stuck with her fucking friend all night,
and I can't get bibabe home...   that thought lasted about.... 10 seconds..
then I thought.... THREESOME!!!!

From my chats with Bibabe, I knew that she would be willing to try something,
but probably AFC out, so I would need to direct everything so it wouldn't
fuck up. Thats ok though, I am a PUA, have experience, and had been working
on a threesome/3p PU plan (still very experimental), so no problem.

Also, this situation was better than the last time with the other target, 
because there were no other friends around to distract us, just me, Bibabe, and 
HBExciteme as the target we would gang up on to try to take home and fuck
together.

The basic plan was:
-get the 3 of us together in an Izakaya/beer pub, sitting down, in a way
 that the 2 chicks can pay attention to each other, and I am close enough to
 direct it.
-get HBExciteme to feel comfortable around Bibabe
-get them both to my place
-fuck them both

The place where we were was Roppongi (part of Tokyo), which these days,
has been totally infested by these illegal migrant Nigerian guys that 
always 'attack' single guys walking down the sidewalk, and try to drag 
them into expensive hostess clubs. So I first kid about this, and ask
each girl to 'protect me from them', and hold each of my hands out to
each girl.. each girl (Bibabe did first, and then social proof kicked in,
and HBExciteme took the other one) takes one of my hands. So now Kino has
already started, only 1 minute into the PU..cool. 

This is a trend the whole night actually, using one girl you already laid 
(Bibabe) as social proof/trendsetting to make the other girl (HBExciteme) 
do what I want, since now psychologically, it is 2 against 1, so social
pressure forces come much more into play against the target (especially
when one of us doing the PU is also a chick ('good cop' effect), than if it is
just you alone, against a target chick.

So the next thing I did was take them to a quiet beerpub (it is now 1am
now) in Roppongi, where I was. Usually, when I am one on one, I choose places
with counters, but this time, since there are 3, I wanted a table, so that
the 2 chicks could see each other, and I could direct it/be in earshot of both
at the same time. So a counter wouldn't work in this case.

Once we got in there, I sat down next to Bibabe (so I could hold her, feel
her up/get her excited, and also tell her what to do/say to the target, 
HBExciteme), and had HBExciteme sit directly facing Bibabe the other side
of the small table. 

From here, some regular nMP stuff on HBExciteme (job, tired, like beer?).

Then I ask into the ear of Bibabe (sitting next to me), "so do you like her?".
She whispers back "yes". I reply to her, "OK, just do what I tell you", and 
I start the PU.

Now what I do, is pay most of my facial/verbal attention to HBExcite me,
across the table, while visibly kino'ing Bibabe (holding her leg.., being
very physically close, tonguedowns to bibabe in front HBExciteme) 
The goal is to make HBExciteme a bit physically aroused and jealous
by the show in front of her, and then letting her release that, by allowing
her to give/express attention (to Bibabe) at a moment I decide later on when
I want to close the PU.

Now I begin... After a few 'cheers' of beer, and kino'ing/KC'ing Bibabe
I get things deeper with HBExciteme by asking her (see nMP for this and
other routines, on my www.pickupguide.com homepage) "So tell me HBExciteme,
are you the type who likes romance, or the type who likes excitement?"
(the goal here, is to ask a double bind question, with the answer I want/expect
to be the last choice).

As expected, HBExciteme replies "excitment, definately excitement". Ok,
so far so good (I turn and KC Bibabe in front of her). Now I play the
strawberry game with HBexciteme (see webpage for it). Her answers are
fence: 1 meter
# of berries: don't care at all/not so much
feeling to farmer: nothing special/don't care

This was interesting, as it wasn't really any response at all to the game.
In retrospect, this is what HBExciteme was like though overall. Not very
reactive/proactive to anything, but on the other hand, anything that might
happen (ie. getting fucked later that night), is ok, and whatever happens
just happens and that is OK with her.

Now I take the hand of HBExciteme (it was on the table in front of me),
and remark on how small and gentle it is, and the nailcolor (red), and
how it matched those of Bibabe (was also red). Then I put both their hands
together, to compare each other's color and size. HBExciteme didn't retract
at this point, which was a good sign.

Now I decide to let them get to know each other a bit without me, and get
comfortable in that girls only way. So I say "I am going to the bathroom,
but will be back, you two wait here for me", and then I take each of their
hands, and put Bibabes hand on top of HBExciteme's hand on the table, and
leave them that way when I get up to go to the bathroom.

I get back, and Bibabe is still holding HBExciteme's hand while talking to
her... very very good sign!

I sit down, and then seperate their hands, and take each girls hand in each
of my hands, so I am holding both of them.. still no bad reaction from
HBExciteme (now she is happy to not be getting left out of all the kino
I figure, and probably is happy that Bibabe is sharing me with her so she
doesn't feel like the '3rd wheel' anymore)... so far so good.

I ask Bibabe again (confirm), "you like her"? Bibabe: "yes". ... good too.

I now ask HBExciteme "so what is your type of guy"? She tells me a guy
who leads, and otherwise OK. Sounds good. At that point, HBExciteme takes
her leg, and puts it on top of mine under the table (while I am still
holding the hands of both girls).

This my friends, is the closing sign! HBExciteme, accepts Bibabe, and wants
to fuck me, and Bibabe is also in on it. Cool!

I say "lets go" (I *do not* say where we are going, and neither girl asks me).

We get down to the street (I take hand of each girl again, in the street, 
like before), and I flag a taxi. I still don't say where we are going, and
neither girl asks (well, Bibabe knows what will happen, and HBExciteme
seems to have figured it out without anyone telling her explicitly ;-)  ).

We get in the taxi, and I sit in the front seat, and put the 2 girls in the
back. I expect.. (and am not disappointed from how I saw Bibabe with HBExciteme
in the pub) Bibabe to start to kino and feelup HBExciteme in the back of the
cab. Needless to say I am not disappointed, I trained Bibabe well for this
mission in the past month.. that taxi driver must have been surprised by
what he saw in the mirror though!

It was a nice sight to watch that all the way home, and the taxi driver,
like a good mannered Japanese staff to his clients, feigned ignorance of the
whole thing ;-), courteous and restrained right to the end of the trip.

We get to my house and I worry that if a freakout will happen, it will be
here, and that HBExciteme will insist to stay in the living room, or something.

So what I did, is take HBExciteme's hand (and not Bibabe), so she gets the
special attention (for now), and take her up to my room. Bibabe is behind
(and in on the scam), and says nothing/looks calm to HBExciteme. I leave
HBExciteme in the room by herself, and I go down to Bibabe downstairs.

At this point, HBexciteme might not know if we were going to stay there,
so that way she cannot freak out, that was the intent of doing it this way.

A couple minutes later, Bibabe and I come up. We are both happy to see
that rather than sleep in all her clothes, HBExciteme has stripped down to
her Tback Thong bikini, and is lying down on the futon waiting for us;
just relaxed.  Wow! That was very cool..

Bibabe and I strip down, and get in the futon next to her (arent tatami
rooms great! room for all!).

I start touching/feeling up HBExciteme a bit, and she doesnt react bad at all,
just she lets me do it, and makes erotic sounds as I reach into her
private places, and she starts shrieking and wriggling all around.

Now here though, is where things got a little edgy.. because this made
Bibabe a bit jealous. Bibabe is cute, but HBExciteme is definately a
babe, very sexy, and attractive, especially wearing only that Tback Thong.
Bibabe somehow, was uncomfortable about this, and was getting a bit irritated
when I gave attention to HBExciteme.

So I stopped playing with HBExciteme, and fucked Bibabe silly instead, with 
HBExciteme next to me (she didn't mind this at all, it turns out).

After that was done, I hugged them both, and played with them both a bit.
Bibabe still got a bit irritated when I would give attention to HBExciteme,
and then decided she wasn't interested in HBExciteme as much anymore.
I told Bibabe that I wanted to fuck HBExciteme, and that she was really
sexy looking (Bibabe agreed, and that I think also irritated her a bit
it turns out). 

I suggested to Bibabe that I got her this nice woman for the evening, and
she is game on, so why doesn't she try her out. But she didn't want to
anymore, besides what she did to her in the cab, and when we first got in
the house.

HBExciteme, heard all this whispering, but was just relaxed about it, lying 
on the bed with her thong.

Bibabe finally said that I should fuck HBExciteme, so I did in the morning.
She was a good fuck, very sexy..babe. (I didn't know her name though,
still, as it was Bibabe's friend's friend, and I had forgot the name she
said in the bar). SHe works out or something, very firm body, no fat, sexy
and curvy in all the right places.... babe.

I could touch HBExciteme/do her anywhere, no resistance, just
shaking and erotic sounds as I did her. The only thing is HBExciteme didn't 
want me to kiss her on the lips, but anything else licking/feeling up/fucking 
related was totally OK and uninhibited... odd..

In the morning, Bibabe left as she had an appointment someplace, gave me a 
tonguedown in front of HBExciteme in the tatami bedroom, and went home.

I then played with and fucked HBExciteme some more, just the two of us, 
and then took her to the train station after.

n
I debriefed and asked what HBExciteme felt about the evening, and she said that 
she liked it, had never done that, but felt bad that Bibabe was a bit
jealous, that it seem I am her boyfriend. But it was OK. Somehow she was very
calm about it all, very surreal, but it was cool though..

I took her to the trainstation, and then never saw her again. I didn't ask
her email/phone, and she didn't ask mine (adds to the mystery of it I
suppose ;-) )!.

--

The next day I talked to Bibabe, and she was a bit nervous, about what the
reaction of HBExciteme was, and more, if she might tell her common friends
what happened with the 3 of us. I told her that it was very unlikely, and that
it was just the secret of the 3 of us. That calmed her down alot. Then I 
asked Bibabe what she thought of it all, and said she liked it, though it was 
the first time, and she was nervous about it all, and who might find out, which 
was why she wasn't as liberal at playing with HBExciteme as she actually 
wanted to be the previous night.

I told her that we would go out another night, and pickup another girlfriend
off the street to playwith for another adventure. She said she is looking
very forward to that evening! Fucking awesome! . .


--

What I learned:

-It helps alot to prepare one of the chicks ahead of time with the plan,
so she can help you execute it (or at least not fuck it up). This is crucial,
and adds a large degree of control to the situation that is otherwise absent,
and in the end, greatly improves the success rate.

-Like a regular PU, it is also helpful to have a PU plan ready, with steps
 (kino, tables (not counters) and seating arrangements thought out, the 
 games to use/gimmicks (nigerians, hands and the bathroom..etc), that can
 be used to advance things. This preparation was very valuable.

-Social proof effects are very powerful in 3p situations, where one of the
 chicks is in on the scam. HBexciteme I dont think is bi (just anything is
 OK), and had it been just me, I dont think I could have laid her, but with
 the social proof/peer pressure, things like getting her home/into the bedroom
 almost naked became trivially easy. Social proof effects will work way against
 you if you didn't prepare one of the chicks, but will work way in your 
 favor if you did prepare one of the chicks... so use that to your advantage!

-Jokes as tests: ie. the bi jokes above I used to scope out Bibabe when
 I met her.. important to determinate what a chick will likely do/not do.

-Jealousy: I remember TPUA had a similar 3P experience a while back, and
 jealousy between the chicks was also a bit of an issue. I need to do the
 set up for this better with the other 'hunter' chick next time I execute the
 plan.

So there you go!

THE END!

Opinion/comments welcome!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » feeling

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Using the ‘color’ game to PU!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

The New Maniac Plan 2002

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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If you are in Tokyo, send me a note..
maniac_high@pickupguide.com

M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

--------------------------------------------

EVASIVE ACTION.. (ie, if it is not working out, try stuff from here)

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3p Lay Report! Maniac does a street PU and threesome!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

[020915]

Maniac does a street PU and threesome!  3p report!

I dont much write lay reports anymore, as they are all pretty much the same, and
formula based. Now the research is on to more interesting things.. like 
threesomes!!

Recently, I got together my first 'unplanned' threesome, with 2 chicks that
had never done one. Here is the report, and how I got it set up to happen!

The 2 chicks are Bibabe (she likes girls), and HBExciteMe (she likes anything
as long as it is on edge and exciting, be it bar fights, or inpulsive 
threesome with her acquantances she doesn't know real well).

I had known Bibabe for a few months, and already fucked her with a standard
new Maniac Plan lay routine. During a drinking pubnight I was debriefing her
and kidded her about a cute girl nearby, and that she should 'try her out',
as 'only a woman really knows how to treat a woman'. 

This is a test I used to see if she was bi/bicurious. She joked back 'maybe
I should take the chance!'. This is good (even as a joke), as non bi-curious
chicks will just react (blech! I like guys). Later that evening, the 'target'
went to the bathroom, and I suggested to Bibabe, 'here is your chance', go
see if she wants to go out with us after.    .. and Bibabe just got up, and
followed her in the bathroom! (no hesitation, anything!). Unfortunately,
when she got there, she stalled out, and didn't know what to say/how to
execute the PU.

Still, this was good, because it told me that: 
1)I got a bi-curious chick
2)She may have no experience, and is an AFC when it comes to PU.. but 
 she is not afraid, and is willing to try stuff on command... very very good,
 as I will be able to work with this.

I debriefed her some more after this later that evening, and she did say
that she was a bit curious about cute girls, but had never tried anything.
I jokingly suggested that I will help her get one, and she jokingly agreed.
(using 'jokes' in this way is a good way to 'test' people for unusual
preferences, as they can always back down and say they were 'joking' if they
feel threatened, but will play with the 'joke' otherwise. 

Ie. if you ask a Bi-curios chick directly 'Are you Bi', she will get defensive,
and say 'no', but if you kid about it the way I did above, if she goes
along with it, then it is her way of communicating (in a less risky way),
that she is possibly interested in what you are proposing. 

Then I told her my story about my ex-gf who was bi, and how she was so cool
and fun. That made it clear to her, that I accept such people, and that she
can feel more comfortable around me to talk about such things..

Same goes for talks about kink, group sex...whatever, use the same method
above if you want to get a chick into those topics/test for interest.

So, that evening, I told her, that I would do the PU for her, and to watch
me. So I go to the target, tell her that my GF and I like her, and want
her to come out with us for a pint after this party is over. The target says 
'OK'! The party ends, and we go up as a group, but the target's AFC friends
pull her away. The target was looking for reassurance from Bibabe (and not
just me, since it is more secure to have it coming from the girl, not the guy),
but Bibabe, being an AFC, failed to do this, so she left.

--
Fast forward to another pubnight a month later, different groups of friends.
We have some pints, and I joke to Bibabe, that 'I need to teach you how
to pick up a woman, because you ladies always have it just easy, and just
wait for the guys to come along, and do all the work'. Bibabe then asks me,
ok, teach me then. 

I then go into ASF/AFC basic training (ie. like what you see in my nMP/lay
reports on pickupguide.com) with her, and tell her what to do/not do. She
is very fascinated by it all.

Another month goes by, I meet her some times to fuck her, and joke about
getting her a nice girl, and she goes along with the joking. 

Then last week, another pubnight and dance at a nightclub in down, and I
run into Bibabe by chance in the place with her friends. We dance for a bit,
and I decide that I want to fuck Bibabe, so I extract her from there (no 
problem, since I already fucked her before).

We are then walking down the street to get a bite, and she runs into a
chick (HBExciteme) on the sidewalk that she sort of knew from the nightclub,
one of her friend's friends or something. She is very cute and sexy.

First I thought...shit.. now we are stuck with her fucking friend all night,
and I can't get bibabe home...   that thought lasted about.... 10 seconds..
then I thought.... THREESOME!!!!

From my chats with Bibabe, I knew that she would be willing to try something,
but probably AFC out, so I would need to direct everything so it wouldn't
fuck up. Thats ok though, I am a PUA, have experience, and had been working
on a threesome/3p PU plan (still very experimental), so no problem.

Also, this situation was better than the last time with the other target, 
because there were no other friends around to distract us, just me, Bibabe, and 
HBExciteme as the target we would gang up on to try to take home and fuck
together.

The basic plan was:
-get the 3 of us together in an Izakaya/beer pub, sitting down, in a way
 that the 2 chicks can pay attention to each other, and I am close enough to
 direct it.
-get HBExciteme to feel comfortable around Bibabe
-get them both to my place
-fuck them both

The place where we were was Roppongi (part of Tokyo), which these days,
has been totally infested by these illegal migrant Nigerian guys that 
always 'attack' single guys walking down the sidewalk, and try to drag 
them into expensive hostess clubs. So I first kid about this, and ask
each girl to 'protect me from them', and hold each of my hands out to
each girl.. each girl (Bibabe did first, and then social proof kicked in,
and HBExciteme took the other one) takes one of my hands. So now Kino has
already started, only 1 minute into the PU..cool. 

This is a trend the whole night actually, using one girl you already laid 
(Bibabe) as social proof/trendsetting to make the other girl (HBExciteme) 
do what I want, since now psychologically, it is 2 against 1, so social
pressure forces come much more into play against the target (especially
when one of us doing the PU is also a chick ('good cop' effect), than if it is
just you alone, against a target chick.

So the next thing I did was take them to a quiet beerpub (it is now 1am
now) in Roppongi, where I was. Usually, when I am one on one, I choose places
with counters, but this time, since there are 3, I wanted a table, so that
the 2 chicks could see each other, and I could direct it/be in earshot of both
at the same time. So a counter wouldn't work in this case.

Once we got in there, I sat down next to Bibabe (so I could hold her, feel
her up/get her excited, and also tell her what to do/say to the target, 
HBExciteme), and had HBExciteme sit directly facing Bibabe the other side
of the small table. 

From here, some regular nMP stuff on HBExciteme (job, tired, like beer?).

Then I ask into the ear of Bibabe (sitting next to me), "so do you like her?".
She whispers back "yes". I reply to her, "OK, just do what I tell you", and 
I start the PU.

Now what I do, is pay most of my facial/verbal attention to HBExcite me,
across the table, while visibly kino'ing Bibabe (holding her leg.., being
very physically close, tonguedowns to bibabe in front HBExciteme) 
The goal is to make HBExciteme a bit physically aroused and jealous
by the show in front of her, and then letting her release that, by allowing
her to give/express attention (to Bibabe) at a moment I decide later on when
I want to close the PU.

Now I begin... After a few 'cheers' of beer, and kino'ing/KC'ing Bibabe
I get things deeper with HBExciteme by asking her (see nMP for this and
other routines, on my www.pickupguide.com homepage) "So tell me HBExciteme,
are you the type who likes romance, or the type who likes excitement?"
(the goal here, is to ask a double bind question, with the answer I want/expect
to be the last choice).

As expected, HBExciteme replies "excitment, definately excitement". Ok,
so far so good (I turn and KC Bibabe in front of her). Now I play the
strawberry game with HBexciteme (see webpage for it). Her answers are
fence: 1 meter
# of berries: don't care at all/not so much
feeling to farmer: nothing special/don't care

This was interesting, as it wasn't really any response at all to the game.
In retrospect, this is what HBExciteme was like though overall. Not very
reactive/proactive to anything, but on the other hand, anything that might
happen (ie. getting fucked later that night), is ok, and whatever happens
just happens and that is OK with her.

Now I take the hand of HBExciteme (it was on the table in front of me),
and remark on how small and gentle it is, and the nailcolor (red), and
how it matched those of Bibabe (was also red). Then I put both their hands
together, to compare each other's color and size. HBExciteme didn't retract
at this point, which was a good sign.

Now I decide to let them get to know each other a bit without me, and get
comfortable in that girls only way. So I say "I am going to the bathroom,
but will be back, you two wait here for me", and then I take each of their
hands, and put Bibabes hand on top of HBExciteme's hand on the table, and
leave them that way when I get up to go to the bathroom.

I get back, and Bibabe is still holding HBExciteme's hand while talking to
her... very very good sign!

I sit down, and then seperate their hands, and take each girls hand in each
of my hands, so I am holding both of them.. still no bad reaction from
HBExciteme (now she is happy to not be getting left out of all the kino
I figure, and probably is happy that Bibabe is sharing me with her so she
doesn't feel like the '3rd wheel' anymore)... so far so good.

I ask Bibabe again (confirm), "you like her"? Bibabe: "yes". ... good too.

I now ask HBExciteme "so what is your type of guy"? She tells me a guy
who leads, and otherwise OK. Sounds good. At that point, HBExciteme takes
her leg, and puts it on top of mine under the table (while I am still
holding the hands of both girls).

This my friends, is the closing sign! HBExciteme, accepts Bibabe, and wants
to fuck me, and Bibabe is also in on it. Cool!

I say "lets go" (I *do not* say where we are going, and neither girl asks me).

We get down to the street (I take hand of each girl again, in the street, 
like before), and I flag a taxi. I still don't say where we are going, and
neither girl asks (well, Bibabe knows what will happen, and HBExciteme
seems to have figured it out without anyone telling her explicitly ;-)  ).

We get in the taxi, and I sit in the front seat, and put the 2 girls in the
back. I expect.. (and am not disappointed from how I saw Bibabe with HBExciteme
in the pub) Bibabe to start to kino and feelup HBExciteme in the back of the
cab. Needless to say I am not disappointed, I trained Bibabe well for this
mission in the past month.. that taxi driver must have been surprised by
what he saw in the mirror though!

It was a nice sight to watch that all the way home, and the taxi driver,
like a good mannered Japanese staff to his clients, feigned ignorance of the
whole thing ;-), courteous and restrained right to the end of the trip.

We get to my house and I worry that if a freakout will happen, it will be
here, and that HBExciteme will insist to stay in the living room, or something.

So what I did, is take HBExciteme's hand (and not Bibabe), so she gets the
special attention (for now), and take her up to my room. Bibabe is behind
(and in on the scam), and says nothing/looks calm to HBExciteme. I leave
HBExciteme in the room by herself, and I go down to Bibabe downstairs.

At this point, HBexciteme might not know if we were going to stay there,
so that way she cannot freak out, that was the intent of doing it this way.

A couple minutes later, Bibabe and I come up. We are both happy to see
that rather than sleep in all her clothes, HBExciteme has stripped down to
her Tback Thong bikini, and is lying down on the futon waiting for us;
just relaxed.  Wow! That was very cool..

Bibabe and I strip down, and get in the futon next to her (arent tatami
rooms great! room for all!).

I start touching/feeling up HBExciteme a bit, and she doesnt react bad at all,
just she lets me do it, and makes erotic sounds as I reach into her
private places, and she starts shrieking and wriggling all around.

Now here though, is where things got a little edgy.. because this made
Bibabe a bit jealous. Bibabe is cute, but HBExciteme is definately a
babe, very sexy, and attractive, especially wearing only that Tback Thong.
Bibabe somehow, was uncomfortable about this, and was getting a bit irritated
when I gave attention to HBExciteme.

So I stopped playing with HBExciteme, and fucked Bibabe silly instead, with 
HBExciteme next to me (she didn't mind this at all, it turns out).

After that was done, I hugged them both, and played with them both a bit.
Bibabe still got a bit irritated when I would give attention to HBExciteme,
and then decided she wasn't interested in HBExciteme as much anymore.
I told Bibabe that I wanted to fuck HBExciteme, and that she was really
sexy looking (Bibabe agreed, and that I think also irritated her a bit
it turns out). 

I suggested to Bibabe that I got her this nice woman for the evening, and
she is game on, so why doesn't she try her out. But she didn't want to
anymore, besides what she did to her in the cab, and when we first got in
the house.

HBExciteme, heard all this whispering, but was just relaxed about it, lying 
on the bed with her thong.

Bibabe finally said that I should fuck HBExciteme, so I did in the morning.
She was a good fuck, very sexy..babe. (I didn't know her name though,
still, as it was Bibabe's friend's friend, and I had forgot the name she
said in the bar). SHe works out or something, very firm body, no fat, sexy
and curvy in all the right places.... babe.

I could touch HBExciteme/do her anywhere, no resistance, just
shaking and erotic sounds as I did her. The only thing is HBExciteme didn't 
want me to kiss her on the lips, but anything else licking/feeling up/fucking 
related was totally OK and uninhibited... odd..

In the morning, Bibabe left as she had an appointment someplace, gave me a 
tonguedown in front of HBExciteme in the tatami bedroom, and went home.

I then played with and fucked HBExciteme some more, just the two of us, 
and then took her to the train station after.

n
I debriefed and asked what HBExciteme felt about the evening, and she said that 
she liked it, had never done that, but felt bad that Bibabe was a bit
jealous, that it seem I am her boyfriend. But it was OK. Somehow she was very
calm about it all, very surreal, but it was cool though..

I took her to the trainstation, and then never saw her again. I didn't ask
her email/phone, and she didn't ask mine (adds to the mystery of it I
suppose ;-) )!.

--

The next day I talked to Bibabe, and she was a bit nervous, about what the
reaction of HBExciteme was, and more, if she might tell her common friends
what happened with the 3 of us. I told her that it was very unlikely, and that
it was just the secret of the 3 of us. That calmed her down alot. Then I 
asked Bibabe what she thought of it all, and said she liked it, though it was 
the first time, and she was nervous about it all, and who might find out, which 
was why she wasn't as liberal at playing with HBExciteme as she actually 
wanted to be the previous night.

I told her that we would go out another night, and pickup another girlfriend
off the street to playwith for another adventure. She said she is looking
very forward to that evening! Fucking awesome! . .


--

What I learned:

-It helps alot to prepare one of the chicks ahead of time with the plan,
so she can help you execute it (or at least not fuck it up). This is crucial,
and adds a large degree of control to the situation that is otherwise absent,
and in the end, greatly improves the success rate.

-Like a regular PU, it is also helpful to have a PU plan ready, with steps
 (kino, tables (not counters) and seating arrangements thought out, the 
 games to use/gimmicks (nigerians, hands and the bathroom..etc), that can
 be used to advance things. This preparation was very valuable.

-Social proof effects are very powerful in 3p situations, where one of the
 chicks is in on the scam. HBexciteme I dont think is bi (just anything is
 OK), and had it been just me, I dont think I could have laid her, but with
 the social proof/peer pressure, things like getting her home/into the bedroom
 almost naked became trivially easy. Social proof effects will work way against
 you if you didn't prepare one of the chicks, but will work way in your 
 favor if you did prepare one of the chicks... so use that to your advantage!

-Jokes as tests: ie. the bi jokes above I used to scope out Bibabe when
 I met her.. important to determinate what a chick will likely do/not do.

-Jealousy: I remember TPUA had a similar 3P experience a while back, and
 jealousy between the chicks was also a bit of an issue. I need to do the
 set up for this better with the other 'hunter' chick next time I execute the
 plan.

So there you go!

THE END!

Opinion/comments welcome!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

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Keys to the lay:

Details:

Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the
details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):

As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3
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Social Proof Report! A screambabe Sequel!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com

From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:50:12 GMT

Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
001127

This report is a sequel to the Screambabe-HBgeek chance meeting
story I posted last week. It is turning out to be a stunning
example in social proof.

Essentially, I was in a bar with HBGeek, doing the ManiacPlan
on her (see my website). I was at stage 'S' (heavy kino, the
sexual question game) when Screambabe (a chick I am already
shagging who happened to be in the bar watching me without me
knowing, came by to interrupt us and cause shit.. see the
report for the details).

First what I did was to contain the 'reaction' after this happened
so that my chance with HBGeek (or any other chick) wouldnt get
ruined by Screambabe spreading bad things about me around, or
stalking my house or something like that.

So I (rightfully so) blamed the whole incident on her, and
immediately sent her two notes, one of them below. What happened
after, was fascinating.. First here is the note I sent her:

---MANIAC WRITES:

Screambabe,

I got your calls. I am still really upset about
how you behaved last week (basically going nuts
because you saw me talking to a girl, and thinking
like you own me..)

Just I dont know what to say, but I expect(ed)
better than that. If something upset you, you should
have stayed quiet (or at least respectful about it
if you wanted to come over to me, which is fine too),
and then talk about it later on the phone or something
if you wanted to talk about it..

.. but what you did was ENTIRELY out of line and
unreasonable..

I just dont know more what to say about it than
that..

Maniac

--END MANIAC WRITES----

--
[My other note was along the same lines, but much more
severe, and in more detail, if I find a copy of it, I
will post it too]

After blaming her for everything, and drilling it in,
Screambabe then replies:

---SCREAMBABE REPLIES (sorry about her fucked up English)

Thank you very much for your sincere mail.
I have been thinking of you and what I did so far.
I read your mail and now understand your feeling very well.

Yes, it was too soon, and of course you feel it is too much.

 As I told you, I am looking a person who might be my special person
in the future as well as just nice friends.
I think I started to think of you too seriously too soon just becausewe
had some relationship.

But I thought it over and over and now I think that I  should
have noticed that men are different from women (including the way of thinking
about such relationship).I am very sorry, Maniac.

I really enjoyed being with you and I could spend wonderful time withyou
though it was only twice.

After this incident happend, I really regreted what I did to you.
If you think OK that we can be just good friends, I would be very happy.
Thank you for your warm words on the phone. ....I am sorry that Icalled
you very late.I appreciate for this.This is my feeling.

I would be happy if you accept my feeling.and many many apologies to
you.

Screambabe

--END SCREAMBABE REPLY

So, now at least she wont be attacking me out in public anymore.. Now
there is more.. I did one fuckup, which actually, turned out in my benefit.
She asked me if I worked in xxx firm. I (figuring she already somehow knew I
did through friends or something) said I did. Turns out she did have a
friend there.

Now apparently, (I find out from bichick from that 'friday experiment in
psychology" (see post on ASF 0011 period) that a lady (which I concluded
was Screambabe) called her friend at my office there to find out about
me.
Of course, since I dont fuck around in the office, but flirt alot, all
the women there love me, think I rock totally. Her friend told other co-
workers about the incident.

But because I had already neutralized Screambabe, she didn't say bad
shit about me like I was two timing her or something, but rather she said
something like...

["I really like this guy, Maniac. He is so wonderful, and can
understand me
so well. But I worry that another girl (she is referring to HB Geek
now, who is better looking than screambabe, and younger too), is trying to take
is heart from me. But Maniac really knows how to treat a lady, and I just
dont know what to do, I really want him so bad..."   etc..etc.]

Well, of course this got around the office at speeds faster than light,
and guess what. Since two days ago, EVERY chick in the office is dying to
get me out and find out what makes me so great that I can get a chick into
such a stupor over me like this. They stop by my office, make sweet
talk, and ask me when I am free.. and the babes.. the 9s, the 10s.. the ones
who wouldnt even turn their head before, without alot of effort on my
part.. Chicks wink, and smile, and get giddy asking me for lunch, for
a beer outside after the office..etc.etc.. like this for a week now...

Bichick told me the whole office now knows the story about Screambabe
calling, and dying to have me again.. and told me that this has now
turned on all the chicks around me who have heard about it as to
"what ever it is that is so special about Maniac, I want it too!"

And that.. is social proof. Its power and strength has surprised even
me.. now I just need to figure out how to use it in 'safe' settings
(ie. outside the office, as I dont dare fuck anyone there, but it made
for a good experiment in social proof anyways).

Fascinating,
Constructive comments and opinions welcome,

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

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Keys to the lay:

Details:

Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the
details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):

As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3
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;-)

-TokyoPUA

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Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Using the ‘color’ game to PU!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

The New Maniac Plan 2002

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

http://www.pickupguide.com

If you are in Tokyo, send me a note..
maniac_high@pickupguide.com

M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

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3p Lay Report! Maniac does a street PU and threesome!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

[020915]

Maniac does a street PU and threesome!  3p report!

I dont much write lay reports anymore, as they are all pretty much the same, and
formula based. Now the research is on to more interesting things.. like 
threesomes!!

Recently, I got together my first 'unplanned' threesome, with 2 chicks that
had never done one. Here is the report, and how I got it set up to happen!

The 2 chicks are Bibabe (she likes girls), and HBExciteMe (she likes anything
as long as it is on edge and exciting, be it bar fights, or inpulsive 
threesome with her acquantances she doesn't know real well).

I had known Bibabe for a few months, and already fucked her with a standard
new Maniac Plan lay routine. During a drinking pubnight I was debriefing her
and kidded her about a cute girl nearby, and that she should 'try her out',
as 'only a woman really knows how to treat a woman'. 

This is a test I used to see if she was bi/bicurious. She joked back 'maybe
I should take the chance!'. This is good (even as a joke), as non bi-curious
chicks will just react (blech! I like guys). Later that evening, the 'target'
went to the bathroom, and I suggested to Bibabe, 'here is your chance', go
see if she wants to go out with us after.    .. and Bibabe just got up, and
followed her in the bathroom! (no hesitation, anything!). Unfortunately,
when she got there, she stalled out, and didn't know what to say/how to
execute the PU.

Still, this was good, because it told me that: 
1)I got a bi-curious chick
2)She may have no experience, and is an AFC when it comes to PU.. but 
 she is not afraid, and is willing to try stuff on command... very very good,
 as I will be able to work with this.

I debriefed her some more after this later that evening, and she did say
that she was a bit curious about cute girls, but had never tried anything.
I jokingly suggested that I will help her get one, and she jokingly agreed.
(using 'jokes' in this way is a good way to 'test' people for unusual
preferences, as they can always back down and say they were 'joking' if they
feel threatened, but will play with the 'joke' otherwise. 

Ie. if you ask a Bi-curios chick directly 'Are you Bi', she will get defensive,
and say 'no', but if you kid about it the way I did above, if she goes
along with it, then it is her way of communicating (in a less risky way),
that she is possibly interested in what you are proposing. 

Then I told her my story about my ex-gf who was bi, and how she was so cool
and fun. That made it clear to her, that I accept such people, and that she
can feel more comfortable around me to talk about such things..

Same goes for talks about kink, group sex...whatever, use the same method
above if you want to get a chick into those topics/test for interest.

So, that evening, I told her, that I would do the PU for her, and to watch
me. So I go to the target, tell her that my GF and I like her, and want
her to come out with us for a pint after this party is over. The target says 
'OK'! The party ends, and we go up as a group, but the target's AFC friends
pull her away. The target was looking for reassurance from Bibabe (and not
just me, since it is more secure to have it coming from the girl, not the guy),
but Bibabe, being an AFC, failed to do this, so she left.

--
Fast forward to another pubnight a month later, different groups of friends.
We have some pints, and I joke to Bibabe, that 'I need to teach you how
to pick up a woman, because you ladies always have it just easy, and just
wait for the guys to come along, and do all the work'. Bibabe then asks me,
ok, teach me then. 

I then go into ASF/AFC basic training (ie. like what you see in my nMP/lay
reports on pickupguide.com) with her, and tell her what to do/not do. She
is very fascinated by it all.

Another month goes by, I meet her some times to fuck her, and joke about
getting her a nice girl, and she goes along with the joking. 

Then last week, another pubnight and dance at a nightclub in down, and I
run into Bibabe by chance in the place with her friends. We dance for a bit,
and I decide that I want to fuck Bibabe, so I extract her from there (no 
problem, since I already fucked her before).

We are then walking down the street to get a bite, and she runs into a
chick (HBExciteme) on the sidewalk that she sort of knew from the nightclub,
one of her friend's friends or something. She is very cute and sexy.

First I thought...shit.. now we are stuck with her fucking friend all night,
and I can't get bibabe home...   that thought lasted about.... 10 seconds..
then I thought.... THREESOME!!!!

From my chats with Bibabe, I knew that she would be willing to try something,
but probably AFC out, so I would need to direct everything so it wouldn't
fuck up. Thats ok though, I am a PUA, have experience, and had been working
on a threesome/3p PU plan (still very experimental), so no problem.

Also, this situation was better than the last time with the other target, 
because there were no other friends around to distract us, just me, Bibabe, and 
HBExciteme as the target we would gang up on to try to take home and fuck
together.

The basic plan was:
-get the 3 of us together in an Izakaya/beer pub, sitting down, in a way
 that the 2 chicks can pay attention to each other, and I am close enough to
 direct it.
-get HBExciteme to feel comfortable around Bibabe
-get them both to my place
-fuck them both

The place where we were was Roppongi (part of Tokyo), which these days,
has been totally infested by these illegal migrant Nigerian guys that 
always 'attack' single guys walking down the sidewalk, and try to drag 
them into expensive hostess clubs. So I first kid about this, and ask
each girl to 'protect me from them', and hold each of my hands out to
each girl.. each girl (Bibabe did first, and then social proof kicked in,
and HBExciteme took the other one) takes one of my hands. So now Kino has
already started, only 1 minute into the PU..cool. 

This is a trend the whole night actually, using one girl you already laid 
(Bibabe) as social proof/trendsetting to make the other girl (HBExciteme) 
do what I want, since now psychologically, it is 2 against 1, so social
pressure forces come much more into play against the target (especially
when one of us doing the PU is also a chick ('good cop' effect), than if it is
just you alone, against a target chick.

So the next thing I did was take them to a quiet beerpub (it is now 1am
now) in Roppongi, where I was. Usually, when I am one on one, I choose places
with counters, but this time, since there are 3, I wanted a table, so that
the 2 chicks could see each other, and I could direct it/be in earshot of both
at the same time. So a counter wouldn't work in this case.

Once we got in there, I sat down next to Bibabe (so I could hold her, feel
her up/get her excited, and also tell her what to do/say to the target, 
HBExciteme), and had HBExciteme sit directly facing Bibabe the other side
of the small table. 

From here, some regular nMP stuff on HBExciteme (job, tired, like beer?).

Then I ask into the ear of Bibabe (sitting next to me), "so do you like her?".
She whispers back "yes". I reply to her, "OK, just do what I tell you", and 
I start the PU.

Now what I do, is pay most of my facial/verbal attention to HBExcite me,
across the table, while visibly kino'ing Bibabe (holding her leg.., being
very physically close, tonguedowns to bibabe in front HBExciteme) 
The goal is to make HBExciteme a bit physically aroused and jealous
by the show in front of her, and then letting her release that, by allowing
her to give/express attention (to Bibabe) at a moment I decide later on when
I want to close the PU.

Now I begin... After a few 'cheers' of beer, and kino'ing/KC'ing Bibabe
I get things deeper with HBExciteme by asking her (see nMP for this and
other routines, on my www.pickupguide.com homepage) "So tell me HBExciteme,
are you the type who likes romance, or the type who likes excitement?"
(the goal here, is to ask a double bind question, with the answer I want/expect
to be the last choice).

As expected, HBExciteme replies "excitment, definately excitement". Ok,
so far so good (I turn and KC Bibabe in front of her). Now I play the
strawberry game with HBexciteme (see webpage for it). Her answers are
fence: 1 meter
# of berries: don't care at all/not so much
feeling to farmer: nothing special/don't care

This was interesting, as it wasn't really any response at all to the game.
In retrospect, this is what HBExciteme was like though overall. Not very
reactive/proactive to anything, but on the other hand, anything that might
happen (ie. getting fucked later that night), is ok, and whatever happens
just happens and that is OK with her.

Now I take the hand of HBExciteme (it was on the table in front of me),
and remark on how small and gentle it is, and the nailcolor (red), and
how it matched those of Bibabe (was also red). Then I put both their hands
together, to compare each other's color and size. HBExciteme didn't retract
at this point, which was a good sign.

Now I decide to let them get to know each other a bit without me, and get
comfortable in that girls only way. So I say "I am going to the bathroom,
but will be back, you two wait here for me", and then I take each of their
hands, and put Bibabes hand on top of HBExciteme's hand on the table, and
leave them that way when I get up to go to the bathroom.

I get back, and Bibabe is still holding HBExciteme's hand while talking to
her... very very good sign!

I sit down, and then seperate their hands, and take each girls hand in each
of my hands, so I am holding both of them.. still no bad reaction from
HBExciteme (now she is happy to not be getting left out of all the kino
I figure, and probably is happy that Bibabe is sharing me with her so she
doesn't feel like the '3rd wheel' anymore)... so far so good.

I ask Bibabe again (confirm), "you like her"? Bibabe: "yes". ... good too.

I now ask HBExciteme "so what is your type of guy"? She tells me a guy
who leads, and otherwise OK. Sounds good. At that point, HBExciteme takes
her leg, and puts it on top of mine under the table (while I am still
holding the hands of both girls).

This my friends, is the closing sign! HBExciteme, accepts Bibabe, and wants
to fuck me, and Bibabe is also in on it. Cool!

I say "lets go" (I *do not* say where we are going, and neither girl asks me).

We get down to the street (I take hand of each girl again, in the street, 
like before), and I flag a taxi. I still don't say where we are going, and
neither girl asks (well, Bibabe knows what will happen, and HBExciteme
seems to have figured it out without anyone telling her explicitly ;-)  ).

We get in the taxi, and I sit in the front seat, and put the 2 girls in the
back. I expect.. (and am not disappointed from how I saw Bibabe with HBExciteme
in the pub) Bibabe to start to kino and feelup HBExciteme in the back of the
cab. Needless to say I am not disappointed, I trained Bibabe well for this
mission in the past month.. that taxi driver must have been surprised by
what he saw in the mirror though!

It was a nice sight to watch that all the way home, and the taxi driver,
like a good mannered Japanese staff to his clients, feigned ignorance of the
whole thing ;-), courteous and restrained right to the end of the trip.

We get to my house and I worry that if a freakout will happen, it will be
here, and that HBExciteme will insist to stay in the living room, or something.

So what I did, is take HBExciteme's hand (and not Bibabe), so she gets the
special attention (for now), and take her up to my room. Bibabe is behind
(and in on the scam), and says nothing/looks calm to HBExciteme. I leave
HBExciteme in the room by herself, and I go down to Bibabe downstairs.

At this point, HBexciteme might not know if we were going to stay there,
so that way she cannot freak out, that was the intent of doing it this way.

A couple minutes later, Bibabe and I come up. We are both happy to see
that rather than sleep in all her clothes, HBExciteme has stripped down to
her Tback Thong bikini, and is lying down on the futon waiting for us;
just relaxed.  Wow! That was very cool..

Bibabe and I strip down, and get in the futon next to her (arent tatami
rooms great! room for all!).

I start touching/feeling up HBExciteme a bit, and she doesnt react bad at all,
just she lets me do it, and makes erotic sounds as I reach into her
private places, and she starts shrieking and wriggling all around.

Now here though, is where things got a little edgy.. because this made
Bibabe a bit jealous. Bibabe is cute, but HBExciteme is definately a
babe, very sexy, and attractive, especially wearing only that Tback Thong.
Bibabe somehow, was uncomfortable about this, and was getting a bit irritated
when I gave attention to HBExciteme.

So I stopped playing with HBExciteme, and fucked Bibabe silly instead, with 
HBExciteme next to me (she didn't mind this at all, it turns out).

After that was done, I hugged them both, and played with them both a bit.
Bibabe still got a bit irritated when I would give attention to HBExciteme,
and then decided she wasn't interested in HBExciteme as much anymore.
I told Bibabe that I wanted to fuck HBExciteme, and that she was really
sexy looking (Bibabe agreed, and that I think also irritated her a bit
it turns out). 

I suggested to Bibabe that I got her this nice woman for the evening, and
she is game on, so why doesn't she try her out. But she didn't want to
anymore, besides what she did to her in the cab, and when we first got in
the house.

HBExciteme, heard all this whispering, but was just relaxed about it, lying 
on the bed with her thong.

Bibabe finally said that I should fuck HBExciteme, so I did in the morning.
She was a good fuck, very sexy..babe. (I didn't know her name though,
still, as it was Bibabe's friend's friend, and I had forgot the name she
said in the bar). SHe works out or something, very firm body, no fat, sexy
and curvy in all the right places.... babe.

I could touch HBExciteme/do her anywhere, no resistance, just
shaking and erotic sounds as I did her. The only thing is HBExciteme didn't 
want me to kiss her on the lips, but anything else licking/feeling up/fucking 
related was totally OK and uninhibited... odd..

In the morning, Bibabe left as she had an appointment someplace, gave me a 
tonguedown in front of HBExciteme in the tatami bedroom, and went home.

I then played with and fucked HBExciteme some more, just the two of us, 
and then took her to the train station after.

n
I debriefed and asked what HBExciteme felt about the evening, and she said that 
she liked it, had never done that, but felt bad that Bibabe was a bit
jealous, that it seem I am her boyfriend. But it was OK. Somehow she was very
calm about it all, very surreal, but it was cool though..

I took her to the trainstation, and then never saw her again. I didn't ask
her email/phone, and she didn't ask mine (adds to the mystery of it I
suppose ;-) )!.

--

The next day I talked to Bibabe, and she was a bit nervous, about what the
reaction of HBExciteme was, and more, if she might tell her common friends
what happened with the 3 of us. I told her that it was very unlikely, and that
it was just the secret of the 3 of us. That calmed her down alot. Then I 
asked Bibabe what she thought of it all, and said she liked it, though it was 
the first time, and she was nervous about it all, and who might find out, which 
was why she wasn't as liberal at playing with HBExciteme as she actually 
wanted to be the previous night.

I told her that we would go out another night, and pickup another girlfriend
off the street to playwith for another adventure. She said she is looking
very forward to that evening! Fucking awesome! . .


--

What I learned:

-It helps alot to prepare one of the chicks ahead of time with the plan,
so she can help you execute it (or at least not fuck it up). This is crucial,
and adds a large degree of control to the situation that is otherwise absent,
and in the end, greatly improves the success rate.

-Like a regular PU, it is also helpful to have a PU plan ready, with steps
 (kino, tables (not counters) and seating arrangements thought out, the 
 games to use/gimmicks (nigerians, hands and the bathroom..etc), that can
 be used to advance things. This preparation was very valuable.

-Social proof effects are very powerful in 3p situations, where one of the
 chicks is in on the scam. HBexciteme I dont think is bi (just anything is
 OK), and had it been just me, I dont think I could have laid her, but with
 the social proof/peer pressure, things like getting her home/into the bedroom
 almost naked became trivially easy. Social proof effects will work way against
 you if you didn't prepare one of the chicks, but will work way in your 
 favor if you did prepare one of the chicks... so use that to your advantage!

-Jokes as tests: ie. the bi jokes above I used to scope out Bibabe when
 I met her.. important to determinate what a chick will likely do/not do.

-Jealousy: I remember TPUA had a similar 3P experience a while back, and
 jealousy between the chicks was also a bit of an issue. I need to do the
 set up for this better with the other 'hunter' chick next time I execute the
 plan.

So there you go!

THE END!

Opinion/comments welcome!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

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Social Proof Report! A screambabe Sequel!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com

From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:50:12 GMT

Social Proof Report! A screambabe sequel!
001127

This report is a sequel to the Screambabe-HBgeek chance meeting
story I posted last week. It is turning out to be a stunning
example in social proof.

Essentially, I was in a bar with HBGeek, doing the ManiacPlan
on her (see my website). I was at stage 'S' (heavy kino, the
sexual question game) when Screambabe (a chick I am already
shagging who happened to be in the bar watching me without me
knowing, came by to interrupt us and cause shit.. see the
report for the details).

First what I did was to contain the 'reaction' after this happened
so that my chance with HBGeek (or any other chick) wouldnt get
ruined by Screambabe spreading bad things about me around, or
stalking my house or something like that.

So I (rightfully so) blamed the whole incident on her, and
immediately sent her two notes, one of them below. What happened
after, was fascinating.. First here is the note I sent her:

---MANIAC WRITES:

Screambabe,

I got your calls. I am still really upset about
how you behaved last week (basically going nuts
because you saw me talking to a girl, and thinking
like you own me..)

Just I dont know what to say, but I expect(ed)
better than that. If something upset you, you should
have stayed quiet (or at least respectful about it
if you wanted to come over to me, which is fine too),
and then talk about it later on the phone or something
if you wanted to talk about it..

.. but what you did was ENTIRELY out of line and
unreasonable..

I just dont know more what to say about it than
that..

Maniac

--END MANIAC WRITES----

--
[My other note was along the same lines, but much more
severe, and in more detail, if I find a copy of it, I
will post it too]

After blaming her for everything, and drilling it in,
Screambabe then replies:

---SCREAMBABE REPLIES (sorry about her fucked up English)

Thank you very much for your sincere mail.
I have been thinking of you and what I did so far.
I read your mail and now understand your feeling very well.

Yes, it was too soon, and of course you feel it is too much.

 As I told you, I am looking a person who might be my special person
in the future as well as just nice friends.
I think I started to think of you too seriously too soon just becausewe
had some relationship.

But I thought it over and over and now I think that I  should
have noticed that men are different from women (including the way of thinking
about such relationship).I am very sorry, Maniac.

I really enjoyed being with you and I could spend wonderful time withyou
though it was only twice.

After this incident happend, I really regreted what I did to you.
If you think OK that we can be just good friends, I would be very happy.
Thank you for your warm words on the phone. ....I am sorry that Icalled
you very late.I appreciate for this.This is my feeling.

I would be happy if you accept my feeling.and many many apologies to
you.

Screambabe

--END SCREAMBABE REPLY

So, now at least she wont be attacking me out in public anymore.. Now
there is more.. I did one fuckup, which actually, turned out in my benefit.
She asked me if I worked in xxx firm. I (figuring she already somehow knew I
did through friends or something) said I did. Turns out she did have a
friend there.

Now apparently, (I find out from bichick from that 'friday experiment in
psychology" (see post on ASF 0011 period) that a lady (which I concluded
was Screambabe) called her friend at my office there to find out about
me.
Of course, since I dont fuck around in the office, but flirt alot, all
the women there love me, think I rock totally. Her friend told other co-
workers about the incident.

But because I had already neutralized Screambabe, she didn't say bad
shit about me like I was two timing her or something, but rather she said
something like...

["I really like this guy, Maniac. He is so wonderful, and can
understand me
so well. But I worry that another girl (she is referring to HB Geek
now, who is better looking than screambabe, and younger too), is trying to take
is heart from me. But Maniac really knows how to treat a lady, and I just
dont know what to do, I really want him so bad..."   etc..etc.]

Well, of course this got around the office at speeds faster than light,
and guess what. Since two days ago, EVERY chick in the office is dying to
get me out and find out what makes me so great that I can get a chick into
such a stupor over me like this. They stop by my office, make sweet
talk, and ask me when I am free.. and the babes.. the 9s, the 10s.. the ones
who wouldnt even turn their head before, without alot of effort on my
part.. Chicks wink, and smile, and get giddy asking me for lunch, for
a beer outside after the office..etc.etc.. like this for a week now...

Bichick told me the whole office now knows the story about Screambabe
calling, and dying to have me again.. and told me that this has now
turned on all the chicks around me who have heard about it as to
"what ever it is that is so special about Maniac, I want it too!"

And that.. is social proof. Its power and strength has surprised even
me.. now I just need to figure out how to use it in 'safe' settings
(ie. outside the office, as I dont dare fuck anyone there, but it made
for a good experiment in social proof anyways).

Fascinating,
Constructive comments and opinions welcome,

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

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Meet, Talk, Lay! Maniac lays screambabe!



Date Posted: 2000/11/06 10:35:04 AM EST
Author: maniac_high@yahoo.com 
Subject: Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!

Lay Report! Screambabe gets a french kiss, and then shouts all night!
001106

Screambabe (she was a yeller during sex), was a chick (around 7 or so)
I met tonight for the first time, performed the 'new strategy' routine
I posted on ASF a couple days ago, and could lay her in about 2 hours
after meeting her (without any alcohol effect).

I took her to a quiet bar where I can sit next to her (she drank tea)
followed my routine exactly, with lots of kino (easy since I am next
to her), and good eye contact.

The one thing I did different is I performed "the cube" as one of the
questions in Craigs question game. She then showed me another game which
is also really good ("The Wall and the Forest"), I will put it in the
next
post, but also will be adding it to my routine as well. I realized the
games really put chicks into trance. You could almost go straight into
a hypnotic induction right there if you wanted as the mood was exactly
right (too bad Maniac doesn't know how to do hypnosis).

Another thing that was different, is I decided to talk less about
relationships
(not necc. for fucking her I figure), and more about fullfillment (ie.
get
it into the here and now.. ie. within the next 2 hours)

After the whole routine was finished, I made sure to plant the following
questions during the question game as the setup to the lay:, also I
touch
her chin lightly as I smile and asked these questions (among others
already
in the list I posted)

-did you ever 1st kiss a guy on the first date (her: yes..once)
-are you ashamed of it (her: no, I can kiss in most places)
-are you adventurous (her: yes)
-do you follow your passions, or do you let them slip by through your
 fingers? (her: follow them)
-how soon after meeting someone did you start a relationship/fuck them
 (her: 1 month)
-I told her story about how guy must pay attention to the girl at all
 levels, both emotionally and physically. I also performed the rocks-
gold
 story and how rocks were important for girls, and gold for guys.
-she asked me about my ex gfs, and I told her that my first gf dumped
me right away because I was aweful at sex, so I studied alot after that,
and made sure to pay attention to the woman during sex. Then I said that
you can tell when you dance with a woman (even if she is not
experienced),
how she will be during sex, by seeing how well she follows you during
dance.
This was good and got the conversation very sexual at the end.
-I asked her if good physical interaction was important like emotional
 interaction, and she said yes.

It is 9pm and I want to get her to fuck now. We are in Shibuya at the
Kirin City "Beer Communication Space" Bar (love jap-lish names!), near
the
love hotels, so the goal is to get her into a nearby fuck/love hotel and
nail her.

I ask as the closing questions,
-you like me? [this is a leader, I knew she'd say yes] (her: yes)
-you adventurous? [also a leader, since I asked her at the start of the
 chat before things got sexual talking] (her: yes)
-then show me and kiss me now (her: resistance "here! too many people!")
Maniac: that's not adventurous, you are lying to me (said with a smile,
I remove all kino, turn my back and look the other way in my chair &
wait).
Maniac: then I turn back to her and say "that was terrible and not
adventurous
at all, now try again, start with my cheek (I get a cheek kiss)
Maniac: well that is a start, but I hope you can do better than that..
 (now I go for a lips one, and get a short one)
Maniac: well, that is better, it looks like you are capable.. now lets
try
 it again and do it correctly (also said with a smile).. now I get a
real
 french kiss
Maniac: well that is much better, now I can see you are the adventurous
type
Maniac & Screambabe (we kiss some more).
Maniac: We should go..
Maniac & screambabe head for the door

At the door:
maniac: got a few minutes? lets walk a little bit as I want to find a
more dark place to kiss you more (her: laughs, slight resistance, but I
got her hand and pull her along).

We get 1 block to love hotel area, she exclaims "I am not going to hotel
tonight!"
Maniac: ok,we are just going the other way (to houses nearby).. I take
her
the other way 40M, find a builing entrance, and kiss/feel her up. no
resistance

After 5 minutes of kissing and tit feeling and Screambabe going nuts:
Maniac: you like me?
Screambabe: yes (said like a chick dying to cum)
Maniac: lets go somewhere private we can kiss more..
Screambabe: Not tonight
Maniac: 5 more minutes of kissing, neck sucking and tit feeling
Maniac: lets go, just kissing, in private
Screambabe: 'not tonight' but softer this time
Maniac: [I take her hand and walk towards the hotels]
Screambabe: 'next time'
Maniac: [start kissing her right at the intersection, she is
embarrased: "lets
         go to a darker place"]
Maniac: [takes her up the street of hotels]
Screambabe: not tonight
Maniac [5 more minutes of deep kissing, neck sucking, leg in her
crotch, chick
        going nuts and about to cum on the street]
Maniac: move her to outside wall of hotel, right near the entrance
Maniac: That feels good doesn't it.. [more sucking and kissing], you can
        imagine what it would be like to feel me more directly [more
sucking
        and kissing & leg crotch, chick panting and shaking]]
Maniac: you want me, you want to feel good dont you [more sucking and
kissing
        & leg crotch], you can feel that, and it just makes you want
more [her:
        yes...yes...yes, more panting]
Maniac: I do not respect a woman who has a chance, and lets it slip by,
nor
        do I respect a woman who is to weak to follow her desires, her
        emotions and her passion.. but I do respect a woman who siezes
a
       chance when it is in front of her.. now you want me..dont you?
Screambabe: yes (and panting)
Maniac: then you must take that chance
Screambabe: not tonight (struggling with the panting)
Maniac: more kissing and sucking
Maniac: we are going [take her hand, she follows with only a little
        resistance]

now in hotel lobby:
[some other couple is paying, holding us up so I cant get the room right
away...I almost lose it because of  this, she loses state and says lets
leave (I cant kiss her more, because the other people right next to us,
she is so embarrased to kiss).. I hold her hand and stare her down with
an eyefuck, then the other couple leaves and I ignore her and tell the
guy I want the room.

We get the key and go up. The room is fucking hot, but that is ok, I
passion kiss her more, and put her on the bed, raise her top, and
suck her titties, no response (not from tits anyways), go for more neck
and leg in crotch and she goes nuts. I do this for 10 minutes, while
unbuttoning
the top.

I unbutton the jeans, she stop me (just kissing today, no sex..but only
light resistance). I suck her neck more, reach my hand in her crotch and
finger her till she goes nuts and starts screaming..

I pull off her pants (no resistance now). Finger her more, suck her neck
and make her shout and go fucking crazy.

I pull off the panties(no resistance), put on the condom, (supplied with
the hotel) and fuck her (no resistance).

She screams and shakes and goes nuts..

I give her a massage, then I fuck her again.

She says I am awesome and the best fuck she ever had (I know! ;-)

I remark how we feel so comfortable, and how it is strange that although
we only met tonight, it is like we knew each other for years, isnt it..
She agrees..

She gives me a massage, then I finger her again till she begs for mercy,
then we rest, get dressed and go back to the station and say goodnight.

THE END

Thoughts on this..

I de-stressed the long term relationship stuff this time, and could get
to the question game and mindfuck games quicker, and to the sexy stuff.
I didn't let resistance stop me, I was very persistant (but on the other
hand, her resistance wasnt strong with an angry look, but more medium
with
an embarrased look, which is OK).. I didn't take no for an answer,
figured
if she didnt like it, she can always leave, or show an angry look, then
I
would stop.

Being persistant got me the lay. She must have said no to me like 20
fucking times before I finally did fuck her. But they were the 'yes but
go slow' kind of no's, not real kind (still smiling/giggling, while
saying
no, not an angry or scared look at all).

This is the 2nd lay in 9 days that I got within 4 hours of starting my
script and running it to the end.. With the exceptions of the failures
in that other post yesterday, it seems to work..


Comments, opinions welcome.!

Maniac High
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Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


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            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Taking control when things go wrong

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

Buy Iressa No Prescription, [TPUA Does a same day Boston PU and LAY.

Maniac Highhttp://www.pickupguide.comhttp://www.fastseduction.com]

Topic: Lay Report: TPUA 2 hour street PU Conf: Field ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:04 PM

Im going to write this to you now as a way of making ajournal about this lay since far too many lays Ive hadrecently have gone by without me documenting themthoroughly.

-TPUA

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » feeling

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:
http://www.pickupguide.com


Earlobe Kino!




From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:43:25 2000
From: "Scott Phillips" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino

A private party. 2 HBs in the mix. The first, a 9, is 25 but looks in her
late teens: big clear eyes, like liquid moonlight :)  We have common
interests regarding diet and stuff and are genuinely interested in each
other it seems, but she gets bailed up by some other guy for the rest of the
evening preventing even a number close.

The second I'd met before. Easily 8.5 or better. Very cute South Aussie
accent. Bottle blonde. Smart. She and her friend come with me and my mates
to the pub to see a band, which finishes as we arrive and the next one is
really hardcore death metal. It is very loud. Her lips touch my ear as we
talk occasionally which quite turns me on. We end up sitting in a booth next
to each other. Perfect. She mentions the fact that we have to talk so close
and I tell her it is fine because her touching my ear with her mouth really
turns me on, then say:
"Can you just bite my ear a bit?"
"Do you mean like stick my tongue in your ear?"
"No, just my ear lobe. I really like it."
So, she does. My insides invert and curl with the feeling and I can feel a
woody in the making. Then I say "okay" and do the same to her. She is
obviously melting. I stop, look her in the eyes, then slowly kiss her on the
mouth. She responds hungrily. From there on out it is bulk hand kino and
lots of kissing. We both have to cool it down. I mention that it would be
good to be somewhere where we do not have to exercise so much self control.

I end up driving her and her friend home (friend first of course) and
spending some more time at her place kissing and hugging her before going
home. She has a few present issues that I could not work around, but we plan
to. I said she could give me a ring and eventually she asked if I'd given
her my number already.  I hadn't.  So I did.  She knows where my house is
because she recognised my car and I'd already explained exactly.

The point of this post is really the kino.  ASF, I take my hat off to you.
This is rocking my world at present.

Pilate.




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From scott@glebesystems.com.au Tue Mar 28 06:44:37 2000
From: "Pilate" 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
References:  <015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>
Subject: Re: Pilate Reports - Ear lobe kino


Craig  wrote in message
news:015c8f92.fbfe4e4d@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com...
> You just gave me a fuckin sweet idea...Everyone knows girls get
> turned on by guys kissing their ears, so I think a great way to
> initiate kino would be to do to her what she did to you!
> "Accidently" brush your lips up against her ear while your
> talking to her.  I love it...your a fuckin genius!

Really?  And I didn't even know it.

The point is that it really only works well in loud environments.  I guess
you could be telling her a secret, but you'd have to make it convincing.

The other thing to note is that it seemed to work well because I made it a
topic of conversation, so that I could tease her with the idea a little.  As
you are turning the idea around, if she pulls away you could ask her "What
is it?  Am I turning you on?"  Yes = great, go for the lobes.  No = "okay,
does this turn you on?" and go for the lobes.

Some chicks actually don't get off by their ear lobes as such, but will
become apoplectic when having their neck kissed just below the ear.  So ask
her.  "Are you more of a neck girl?"

Pilate.

Using the ‘color’ game to PU!

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com


Using the 'color game' to do a PU!


From: tonymcneill@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Colours Game - opinions?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:43:35 GMT

 Hi Guys,

I've just field tested this pattern / game for creating an erotic and
horny state - worked a dream:) I'd be interested to know what you think
of this and how it might be improved.....

I suppose it might work best with the more visually thinking babes.

This is not a 'word for word' pattern by any means, by the way - I just
kind of found myself going into it on the fly.....  here we go..

The PUA "notices" the colour (UK spelling by the way for those who might
feel the urge to correct me) of an object, item of clothing etc.

PUA - "I find these yellow walls (or whatever) quite uplifting;
especially in the winter. Isn't it nice to have some bright colours
around when it's so grey and dark outside?" "Do you think that colours
have an big effect on peoples' moods?".

HB - "Oh, yes, definitely."

PUA - "Hmmm. I was just wondering......I mean....... I was in one of
those New Age shops recently and they were selling lots of different
coloured sunglasses.... with the idea that, if you wanted to feel more
of a certain mood, or to look at the world in a certain way, you would
slip on a pair of sunglasses which would colour everything you looked at
in the desired tone" "Do you think that could work in any way?"

HB - "Well, maybe. I don't know really"

PUA - "Well, for example, my bedroom is a very pale blue colour and I
find this particular blue very restful" "I mean, can you imagine
sleeping very well in a pale blue room?" "Imagine you are really tired,
you know when your eyelids are heavy and you curl up with that fantastic
feeling of at last ... just letting go.... and .....giving
yourself...to....(sp perhaps?).. sleep'" "Do you have a sense of a
particular colour when you imagine that feeling?" (Make sure she's
imagining being sleepy).

HB - "Oh, maybe blue, or green" (or whatever). (If she doesn't come up
with one then maybe she could be asked to imagine the perfect colour for
a bedroom, but both of the HB subjects I tried got right into it.)

PUA "How about when you feel....really full of great ideas...... like
you have all sorts of inspiration flowing through you.?"

PUA then procedes to get HB to imagine a few other states (feeling very
inspired and spiritual (commenting on her choice of colour in a playful
way)...... bursting with energy ...... feeling very sensual,
relaxed and open (we're getting closer, gentlemen)......and eventually,
 being full of passion and horny), and slowly visualising a colour with
each one.

You get the picture - guiding her into these states,
comparing colours etc etc. I have tried this on two chicks, both of whom
LOVED the game and got right into imagining the states. One of them was
an ex who is of great value as a pivot / social proof (and a friend) so
I was testing the game with her rather than going for the lay and the
other HB, in spite of being pretty shy, blushed madly and was VISIBLY
remembering the joy of being fucked until she screamed with pleasure ;)
(At this point Tony is feeling a bit fucking pleased with himself).
I think this would have definitely resulted in a fuck had I not been
meeting her at lunchtime before going off to work :( (at this point Tony
is disgusted as well as pleased!!)

What do you 'real' PUAs think of this little game? As I said I somehow
went into it on the fly after having the idea while practicing
improvising patterns while driving, using things I saw on the road as
starting points for pattern-talk. So it's pretty new and I, as yet,
claim only to be a humble RAFC. Going to test it some more and post the
results....



Any suggestions or comments?

Tony

--
'Action' is the magic word

The New Maniac Plan 2002

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

http://www.pickupguide.com

If you are in Tokyo, send me a note..
maniac_high@pickupguide.com

M A N I A C H I G H ' S

G E T L A I D G U I D E

N E W M A N I A C P L A N

V 2 0 0 2

It is still a work in progress, and could use some better formatting.
I will do it someday. Content is what counts though.

I designed this plan based on field work, and this plan is tested in
the field, and WORKS.

-For young/dumb chicks, focus on fun/excitment, for older or more mentally
mature chicks, focus on relax/comfortable/understanding.

ie:
-[chick with belly exposed shirt] That is a nice belly (very aggressive)
-Do you exercise/go to the gym../how long?

-That is a very sexy outfit
-Where do you usually buy your clothes/what stores do you usually shop?

Ok, here we go:

ONS:

:::LOOP(go through each section below, 1 line of each section at a time,
and items get deeper as you go..).. ie. rinse, wash repeat!

[Preparation]
-PU locations and way home known
-Home ready, music, massage oil, towels, candles/insense, cleaned up

-My friend likes you [Mr. smooth stuff]
-you are a nice couple
-douzo (put hands together)
-give him kiss, try
-just short one, a little bit!

[transitions - move state from fact talk to feelings/emotion/sex, once succeed this
part, continue with sections of plan below]
-(kino starts)

[Exit]
-go home/fuck

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EVASIVE ACTION.. (ie, if it is not working out, try stuff from here)

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