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Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Maniac talks about how/why the 'ManiacPlan' works!



From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Reply to Ash's post about Maniac Plan
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:10:07 GMT

Random thoughts and replies..

Yes, getting ADMIRATION was a key discovery. I discovered it
looking at mystery's stories, and seeing that they were all
things that universally made a chick admire you (escaping bears,
unaided rock climbing after a rope break..,etc), plus remembering
how goldigger chick got into me when I told her about my stock
investing and making money from it.

yes, admiration before sex-accels..etc, is critical..or you go
nowhere.. That was the problem with the chick I failed that other
night.. I just couldnt get her to admire me at the start for anything,
so then nothing else after worked at all..

Re; stories to get sad, then happy.. it elicicits a strong
emotional response I find, and is a good way to initiate even
more heavy kino when you are telling the story. Look at the
movie "ghost".. it is so sad, but then the end, so nice.. it
is an intense emotional reaction for chicks, and that makes them
succeptible to what you say next..

Re: Stories that work -vs dont work in seduction
All stories must have a goal in mind. When you make a story, you
must be able to say to yourself "the purpose of this story is
to make the chick feel/know/experience xxx". If you cant do that
with a given story, then change/ditch the story. This is how I
chose my stories or modified them to get the desired effect.

Just think things that you would like to tell directly to the
chick:
ie: -if you dont fuck me tonight, then you lose your chance
    -I am a good lay and you will enjoy it
    -you can trust me
    -you feel close and comfortable with me
    -you want me
    -you admire me deeply
    -I can choose from many chicks and many chicks want me, and that
     will make you want me even more, so take your chance when I make
     my move
    -me wanting you is a fulfills your selfworth..without that you
     are nothing
    -you are lonely and want someone (me) to hold you, kiss you
     touch you
    -imagine the pleasure of kissing, the excitement of touching and
     feeling each other directly

Now you cannot just say any of the above directly to a chick. She
will tell you to fuck off, hit you and then walk out of the bar..
But if you tell stories which has as their points each of those
above items, then she will internalize it and believe it. If you
look at all my stories in "Maniac Plan", you will see, that each one
has a purpose/message like the above. That is why the stories
work.

Re: did I memorize all of that in "Maniac plan". Of course not ;-)
I only memorized where some of stories in each section go. Since they
are all my stories though, of course I didn't need to memorize the
stories themselves, with exception of mysterys, they are all part of
my life already and really happened.

Each time I do a PU, I only remember to do about 1/2 the things on
the list, and skip around alot, depending what I remember as I do
the PU.


Re: "One idea in the Maniac Plan I hadn't heard before is telling lots
of different sexual stories to try to diagnose what the girl's
kink is, if she has one.  I'm a bit surprised you tell so many of
these stories during a sarge; do you rarely get a bad reaction?    "

maniac replies:
It works because I dont do it at the start. First I do 4 questions
to get her to a deeper state & the age regression. Then I start with
the nani nani story, and move on to the karatebabe PU, and the kiss
in the Sao Paolo bar story. Now the transition is done from regular
boring fluff, to the intimate stuff, so it works. Sometimes the chicks
dont react, or react kind of bad.. when that happens, I stop, and do
more regular stories, or distance them from me (ie. my friend, rather
than me), then try again later, or wait till the question game, and then
introduce the stories as part of the questions I/her ask each other,
then it works better and is more natural..

Re: Teasing (in Ash's post)
My thoughts here are that the teasing were a good excuse to start
kino, thats all. The kino is what got the lay, and not the teasing
itself (which was just a tool to start the kino). My opinion only
though..never tried this.. Though I am in my 30s, so I dont really
go around tackling chicks often ;-)

Re: purpose of "british guy getting played by the girl".. purpose
is to defend against her calling you a playboy because you brought
it up first on the context of a girl playing a guy and how sad it
was. I started to do this because chicks would sometimes ask if
I am a play boy (huh me ;-) ). basically, this story is an
innoculant.

Re: will she pass me up if she is a player if I use this story?
Maniac replies:
Oh, here is the catch.. first I judge the chick.. if she looks like the
player type, I DONT use the british guy story, because this would
disqualify me as the player she is looking for. If she doesnt look
like the player type though, and looks like the type who might question
me about being a playboy, then I will use it.

Re: ourworld
This is a section on my webpage (www.pickupguide.com), all details
are already there..

Re: 'best friend in the world'
This is good, I will use this too!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Example Problem – by ’someone’, a newsgroup poster

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

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Maniac talks about how/why the 'ManiacPlan' works!



From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Reply to Ash's post about Maniac Plan
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:10:07 GMT

Random thoughts and replies..

Yes, getting ADMIRATION was a key discovery. I discovered it
looking at mystery's stories, and seeing that they were all
things that universally made a chick admire you (escaping bears,
unaided rock climbing after a rope break..,etc), plus remembering
how goldigger chick got into me when I told her about my stock
investing and making money from it.

yes, admiration before sex-accels..etc, is critical..or you go
nowhere.. That was the problem with the chick I failed that other
night.. I just couldnt get her to admire me at the start for anything,
so then nothing else after worked at all..

Re; stories to get sad, then happy.. it elicicits a strong
emotional response I find, and is a good way to initiate even
more heavy kino when you are telling the story. Look at the
movie "ghost".. it is so sad, but then the end, so nice.. it
is an intense emotional reaction for chicks, and that makes them
succeptible to what you say next..

Re: Stories that work -vs dont work in seduction
All stories must have a goal in mind. When you make a story, you
must be able to say to yourself "the purpose of this story is
to make the chick feel/know/experience xxx". If you cant do that
with a given story, then change/ditch the story. This is how I
chose my stories or modified them to get the desired effect.

Just think things that you would like to tell directly to the
chick:
ie: -if you dont fuck me tonight, then you lose your chance
    -I am a good lay and you will enjoy it
    -you can trust me
    -you feel close and comfortable with me
    -you want me
    -you admire me deeply
    -I can choose from many chicks and many chicks want me, and that
     will make you want me even more, so take your chance when I make
     my move
    -me wanting you is a fulfills your selfworth..without that you
     are nothing
    -you are lonely and want someone (me) to hold you, kiss you
     touch you
    -imagine the pleasure of kissing, the excitement of touching and
     feeling each other directly

Now you cannot just say any of the above directly to a chick. She
will tell you to fuck off, hit you and then walk out of the bar..
But if you tell stories which has as their points each of those
above items, then she will internalize it and believe it. If you
look at all my stories in "Maniac Plan", you will see, that each one
has a purpose/message like the above. That is why the stories
work.

Re: did I memorize all of that in "Maniac plan". Of course not ;-)
I only memorized where some of stories in each section go. Since they
are all my stories though, of course I didn't need to memorize the
stories themselves, with exception of mysterys, they are all part of
my life already and really happened.

Each time I do a PU, I only remember to do about 1/2 the things on
the list, and skip around alot, depending what I remember as I do
the PU.


Re: "One idea in the Maniac Plan I hadn't heard before is telling lots
of different sexual stories to try to diagnose what the girl's
kink is, if she has one.  I'm a bit surprised you tell so many of
these stories during a sarge; do you rarely get a bad reaction?    "

maniac replies:
It works because I dont do it at the start. First I do 4 questions
to get her to a deeper state & the age regression. Then I start with
the nani nani story, and move on to the karatebabe PU, and the kiss
in the Sao Paolo bar story. Now the transition is done from regular
boring fluff, to the intimate stuff, so it works. Sometimes the chicks
dont react, or react kind of bad.. when that happens, I stop, and do
more regular stories, or distance them from me (ie. my friend, rather
than me), then try again later, or wait till the question game, and then
introduce the stories as part of the questions I/her ask each other,
then it works better and is more natural..

Re: Teasing (in Ash's post)
My thoughts here are that the teasing were a good excuse to start
kino, thats all. The kino is what got the lay, and not the teasing
itself (which was just a tool to start the kino). My opinion only
though..never tried this.. Though I am in my 30s, so I dont really
go around tackling chicks often ;-)

Re: purpose of "british guy getting played by the girl".. purpose
is to defend against her calling you a playboy because you brought
it up first on the context of a girl playing a guy and how sad it
was. I started to do this because chicks would sometimes ask if
I am a play boy (huh me ;-) ). basically, this story is an
innoculant.

Re: will she pass me up if she is a player if I use this story?
Maniac replies:
Oh, here is the catch.. first I judge the chick.. if she looks like the
player type, I DONT use the british guy story, because this would
disqualify me as the player she is looking for. If she doesnt look
like the player type though, and looks like the type who might question
me about being a playboy, then I will use it.

Re: ourworld
This is a section on my webpage (www.pickupguide.com), all details
are already there..

Re: 'best friend in the world'
This is good, I will use this too!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Example Problem – by ’someone’, a newsgroup poster

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac talks about how/why the 'ManiacPlan' works!



From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Reply to Ash's post about Maniac Plan
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:10:07 GMT

Random thoughts and replies..

Yes, getting ADMIRATION was a key discovery. I discovered it
looking at mystery's stories, and seeing that they were all
things that universally made a chick admire you (escaping bears,
unaided rock climbing after a rope break..,etc), plus remembering
how goldigger chick got into me when I told her about my stock
investing and making money from it.

yes, admiration before sex-accels..etc, is critical..or you go
nowhere.. That was the problem with the chick I failed that other
night.. I just couldnt get her to admire me at the start for anything,
so then nothing else after worked at all..

Re; stories to get sad, then happy.. it elicicits a strong
emotional response I find, and is a good way to initiate even
more heavy kino when you are telling the story. Look at the
movie "ghost".. it is so sad, but then the end, so nice.. it
is an intense emotional reaction for chicks, and that makes them
succeptible to what you say next..

Re: Stories that work -vs dont work in seduction
All stories must have a goal in mind. When you make a story, you
must be able to say to yourself "the purpose of this story is
to make the chick feel/know/experience xxx". If you cant do that
with a given story, then change/ditch the story. This is how I
chose my stories or modified them to get the desired effect.

Just think things that you would like to tell directly to the
chick:
ie: -if you dont fuck me tonight, then you lose your chance
    -I am a good lay and you will enjoy it
    -you can trust me
    -you feel close and comfortable with me
    -you want me
    -you admire me deeply
    -I can choose from many chicks and many chicks want me, and that
     will make you want me even more, so take your chance when I make
     my move
    -me wanting you is a fulfills your selfworth..without that you
     are nothing
    -you are lonely and want someone (me) to hold you, kiss you
     touch you
    -imagine the pleasure of kissing, the excitement of touching and
     feeling each other directly

Now you cannot just say any of the above directly to a chick. She
will tell you to fuck off, hit you and then walk out of the bar..
But if you tell stories which has as their points each of those
above items, then she will internalize it and believe it. If you
look at all my stories in "Maniac Plan", you will see, that each one
has a purpose/message like the above. That is why the stories
work.

Re: did I memorize all of that in "Maniac plan". Of course not ;-)
I only memorized where some of stories in each section go. Since they
are all my stories though, of course I didn't need to memorize the
stories themselves, with exception of mysterys, they are all part of
my life already and really happened.

Each time I do a PU, I only remember to do about 1/2 the things on
the list, and skip around alot, depending what I remember as I do
the PU.


Re: "One idea in the Maniac Plan I hadn't heard before is telling lots
of different sexual stories to try to diagnose what the girl's
kink is, if she has one.  I'm a bit surprised you tell so many of
these stories during a sarge; do you rarely get a bad reaction?    "

maniac replies:
It works because I dont do it at the start. First I do 4 questions
to get her to a deeper state & the age regression. Then I start with
the nani nani story, and move on to the karatebabe PU, and the kiss
in the Sao Paolo bar story. Now the transition is done from regular
boring fluff, to the intimate stuff, so it works. Sometimes the chicks
dont react, or react kind of bad.. when that happens, I stop, and do
more regular stories, or distance them from me (ie. my friend, rather
than me), then try again later, or wait till the question game, and then
introduce the stories as part of the questions I/her ask each other,
then it works better and is more natural..

Re: Teasing (in Ash's post)
My thoughts here are that the teasing were a good excuse to start
kino, thats all. The kino is what got the lay, and not the teasing
itself (which was just a tool to start the kino). My opinion only
though..never tried this.. Though I am in my 30s, so I dont really
go around tackling chicks often ;-)

Re: purpose of "british guy getting played by the girl".. purpose
is to defend against her calling you a playboy because you brought
it up first on the context of a girl playing a guy and how sad it
was. I started to do this because chicks would sometimes ask if
I am a play boy (huh me ;-) ). basically, this story is an
innoculant.

Re: will she pass me up if she is a player if I use this story?
Maniac replies:
Oh, here is the catch.. first I judge the chick.. if she looks like the
player type, I DONT use the british guy story, because this would
disqualify me as the player she is looking for. If she doesnt look
like the player type though, and looks like the type who might question
me about being a playboy, then I will use it.

Re: ourworld
This is a section on my webpage (www.pickupguide.com), all details
are already there..

Re: 'best friend in the world'
This is good, I will use this too!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » directly

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website:

http://www.pickupguide.com



Maniac talks about how/why the 'ManiacPlan' works!



From: maniac_high@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Reply to Ash's post about Maniac Plan
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:10:07 GMT

Random thoughts and replies..

Yes, getting ADMIRATION was a key discovery. I discovered it
looking at mystery's stories, and seeing that they were all
things that universally made a chick admire you (escaping bears,
unaided rock climbing after a rope break..,etc), plus remembering
how goldigger chick got into me when I told her about my stock
investing and making money from it.

yes, admiration before sex-accels..etc, is critical..or you go
nowhere.. That was the problem with the chick I failed that other
night.. I just couldnt get her to admire me at the start for anything,
so then nothing else after worked at all..

Re; stories to get sad, then happy.. it elicicits a strong
emotional response I find, and is a good way to initiate even
more heavy kino when you are telling the story. Look at the
movie "ghost".. it is so sad, but then the end, so nice.. it
is an intense emotional reaction for chicks, and that makes them
succeptible to what you say next..

Re: Stories that work -vs dont work in seduction
All stories must have a goal in mind. When you make a story, you
must be able to say to yourself "the purpose of this story is
to make the chick feel/know/experience xxx". If you cant do that
with a given story, then change/ditch the story. This is how I
chose my stories or modified them to get the desired effect.

Just think things that you would like to tell directly to the
chick:
ie: -if you dont fuck me tonight, then you lose your chance
    -I am a good lay and you will enjoy it
    -you can trust me
    -you feel close and comfortable with me
    -you want me
    -you admire me deeply
    -I can choose from many chicks and many chicks want me, and that
     will make you want me even more, so take your chance when I make
     my move
    -me wanting you is a fulfills your selfworth..without that you
     are nothing
    -you are lonely and want someone (me) to hold you, kiss you
     touch you
    -imagine the pleasure of kissing, the excitement of touching and
     feeling each other directly

Now you cannot just say any of the above directly to a chick. She
will tell you to fuck off, hit you and then walk out of the bar..
But if you tell stories which has as their points each of those
above items, then she will internalize it and believe it. If you
look at all my stories in "Maniac Plan", you will see, that each one
has a purpose/message like the above. That is why the stories
work.

Re: did I memorize all of that in "Maniac plan". Of course not ;-)
I only memorized where some of stories in each section go. Since they
are all my stories though, of course I didn't need to memorize the
stories themselves, with exception of mysterys, they are all part of
my life already and really happened.

Each time I do a PU, I only remember to do about 1/2 the things on
the list, and skip around alot, depending what I remember as I do
the PU.


Re: "One idea in the Maniac Plan I hadn't heard before is telling lots
of different sexual stories to try to diagnose what the girl's
kink is, if she has one.  I'm a bit surprised you tell so many of
these stories during a sarge; do you rarely get a bad reaction?    "

maniac replies:
It works because I dont do it at the start. First I do 4 questions
to get her to a deeper state & the age regression. Then I start with
the nani nani story, and move on to the karatebabe PU, and the kiss
in the Sao Paolo bar story. Now the transition is done from regular
boring fluff, to the intimate stuff, so it works. Sometimes the chicks
dont react, or react kind of bad.. when that happens, I stop, and do
more regular stories, or distance them from me (ie. my friend, rather
than me), then try again later, or wait till the question game, and then
introduce the stories as part of the questions I/her ask each other,
then it works better and is more natural..

Re: Teasing (in Ash's post)
My thoughts here are that the teasing were a good excuse to start
kino, thats all. The kino is what got the lay, and not the teasing
itself (which was just a tool to start the kino). My opinion only
though..never tried this.. Though I am in my 30s, so I dont really
go around tackling chicks often ;-)

Re: purpose of "british guy getting played by the girl".. purpose
is to defend against her calling you a playboy because you brought
it up first on the context of a girl playing a guy and how sad it
was. I started to do this because chicks would sometimes ask if
I am a play boy (huh me ;-) ). basically, this story is an
innoculant.

Re: will she pass me up if she is a player if I use this story?
Maniac replies:
Oh, here is the catch.. first I judge the chick.. if she looks like the
player type, I DONT use the british guy story, because this would
disqualify me as the player she is looking for. If she doesnt look
like the player type though, and looks like the type who might question
me about being a playboy, then I will use it.

Re: ourworld
This is a section on my webpage (www.pickupguide.com), all details
are already there..

Re: 'best friend in the world'
This is good, I will use this too!

Maniac High
http://www.pickupguide.com

Example Problem – by ’someone’, a newsgroup poster

Maniac High — Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:00:00 +0000

From: Maniac High's Seduction Website

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"Someone" writes on his Basic Pickup Attempt with common mistakes

Newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast 
Subject: Got any ideas on this??? 
Date: 1999/06/23 
Author: "Someone"

Hey
Here's the my problem (I don't know if it can be called a problem :P) 
I've met this girl a few months ago in a gothic bar, and she had and 
still has a boyfriend.. Well I do not live in the same city as her, 
we live about 150 miles away from each other.. 

Well, we quickly started 
a great conversation while her boyfriend was somewhere, and we both 
were really ok talking to each other immediatly.. So we really liked 
each other.. 3 days later I got a letter from her, I replied, and so 
we did started writing each other. I told her almost immediatly I 
considered her VERY VERY beautiful (and she really is).. 

Well about 
1 month later she told me she wanted to see me again, so I got myself 
on a train and went to meet her, and we really had a great day together, 
just like we were the best friends, that is: no intimacy.. Later that 
day when I was back home we talked on the phone and she told me she was 
missing me a lot.. 

The next week she came here, and so we did had a
 damn beautiful day together, but things got a little different, we 
walked holding hands together all day, but nothing more.. After all, 
she has a boyfriend.. We kept talking on the phone everyday, she always 
told me she missed me.. And finally she told me that she thought she was 
in love with me... 

Well I went back there a week later, went to her 
place, met her family, when I was alone with her in her bedroom she 
simply gives me this huge hug, and we stayed that way for quite some 
time.. We did hug each other again and again during the day, but we 
never really kissed, not on the lips at least.. Even though we were 
together in a place where many of her friends (and boyfriend's friends) 
could eventually see us together, we did hold hands all day.. She told 
me she didn't want me to go back home.. But I really had to.. 

So she is 
coming back this week.. And everything is set to happen.. Anyway, I am 
really confused.. I've got a lot of unanswered questions in my mind 
like: "Why doesn't she leave her boyfriend?", "Why doesn't she kiss 
me?", "Why doesn't she really tell me what she wants from me?"... I 
am so damn confused... She always knew what I feel for her, with every 
little detail.. I didn't.. 

I just can't kiss her because she has a 
boyfriend, and because I don't want to risk that she gets mad at me 
for any reason, I just din't want to force anything.. And I can't ask 
her directly because almost in the beggining of this relationship 
between the two of us started I asked her if she liked me (She told me 
back then she simply didn't know, but that I attracted her a lot in a 
way she couldn't explain, and she also said that all this could get 
very big), but she told me she was sad because I asked her that.. So 
now I don't want to risk her being sad with me again... 

I would appreciate any advice, tip, or ideas by anyone, if possible 
reply to my email directly, because I am having some problems with 
my news server...

Thank you in advance

Someone