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 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
 That would be stupid.  But when she expresses her interest in a particular
photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

Chris

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OK, every now and then I get around to posting a lay report, but without some
prodding from Formhandle I wouldn't have posted this, so thank him if you get
some good info out of it. This particular one happened on a recent business trip
to Japan. Strattera price, Im calling this a Lay Report/Tutorial. This is a new format I think that we
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So to start with, even before you read the report, here is a breakdown of the
things/techniques that made this successful: (This is the format I am talking
about that makes it a tutorial, as well as the way I break everything down in
report itself):

Keys to the Lay:

Tactics-lost foreigner routine (approach appears innocent)-set her at ease-romance frame-lack of "leaning", I was always in control and qualifying her-kino and anchoring her positive responses with kino-"kino anchored motion inducement" or KAMI, see report for explanation-suspense building (not telling her what kind of book I had for her to read)-built in sexual imagery from book-coincidence frame (same day off, buy Strattera online cod, her station is near mine, she lives close to
the hotel, I had been wanting to talk Japanese again, etc.)-pre suppositions (that we have already decided to go to the hotel, etc.)-gradual buildup of requests (leading). Building on consistency principle, once
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is at the hotel its not so hard to just stay there. Once she has decided to stay
with me at the hotel, its not so hard to rationalize that she really is there
cause she likes me and wouldn't really be adverse to sex, etc.

Physical:-I was wearing a business suit. This gives a kind of Cialdini authority and in
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-She knew I was staying at a nice hotel.

Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day

Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers

This is one of the fastest lays I have ever pulled off in Japan. And it all
happened over the course of only one hour, and when I was least expecting it, in
fact I wasn't out on the prowl, I was just returning from a long day of work. I
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think).

Anyway, it was about 11 PM and I was transferring between one subway to another
for the last leg of my trip back to my hotel. I knew where I was going, but the
guys in our rep company in Japan had been so kind as to write a little map for
me with station names on a napkin while we had been at dinner. Little did they
know that I was going to use it to get myself laid that night.

As I was walking I saw a Japanese girl (she was 25 years old, 8.5 on my scale)
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the napkin as an opener about being lost. I knew at this time of night I needed
something initially innocent, and this was perfect.

So I just walked faster to catch up to her, pulled along side her, smiled, and
said in English "Can you tell me where this is?" pointing to the subway name
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but pointing me in the right direction.

Here I remembered something from the recent Double Your Dating seminar in LA
with David DeAngelo (which was excellent BTW, recommended regardless of your
level. Jay and I will be writing up a review of this soon on the site. In the
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about leaning and pulling away. So instead of continuing the PU, I said thanks,
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I waited until she came to a stop and fortunately it was on the side I had to go
anyway, so I knew I would have a little more time to work it in the train, if I
could get "the first 30 seconds" as Formhandle always calls it. I asked which
side of the tracks I needed to wait on in order to get to my hotel. This told
her that I was in a nice hotel nearby just in case she might be open to a little
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etc. Buy Strattera in canada, She answered with a little more English than before and seemed to warm up a
little, smiling more often. At some point I also found out that she lives alone,
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are at it, why don't you put your cell number in there too?" Of course she
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The train comes, buy cheapest Strattera, we get on together. At this point I know I don't have much
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as the doors open I touch her where I have been anchoring her elbow, but I also
apply a light pressure to get her moving out the door. This kind of thing is so
powerful I will give it an acronym: KAMI (Kino Anchor Motion Inducment). It is a
real killer, I use it all the time in situations where I need to get the woman
to act against her hesitation instincts. Buy Strattera No Prescription, It's a sort of break state that causes
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So once we are out on the subway platform, I say "Look, here is what I think we
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simple English book to read, its really interesting!"

At this point she is standing on the platform, and she is hearing in essense:
"I plan to take you back to my hotel but Im going to have to work, then we will
leave" This probably hit at her vanity a little, "Why would he take me back
and just work. I wonder if he finds me attractive. Will he make a move?" So I
further the suspense a bit by then saying, Order Strattera, "Hmmm, actually the book is a little
bit embarrassing though now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't show it to
you. Do you have an open mind?" This also had the dual effect of presupposing
that she has already said yes to coming, now its just a question of whether she
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content. Buy Strattera No Prescription, Im smiling all the while and looking at her a little skeptically. (This
part was something I was unconsciously incorporating form some excellent
material I had just heard at the Double Your Dating Seminar. David had talking
about asking women if they are single while looking at them with a sort of
skeptical look. Its all about a frame he talks about a lot where you are
qualifying them, not the other way around.) Anyway, Strattera from canadian pharmacy, she says yes, she does have
an open mind, and I start us walking in the direction of the hotel while saying
"OK, but I wont tell you the name of the book until we get there". Again, this
is working on her curiousity, etc. while simultaneously getting her moving where
I want to go, Buy Strattera No Prescription. Online buying Strattera, Since she is presently more interested in figuring out what I am
talking about, her resistance is lessened and she just goes along with the whole
presupposed idea that we have already mutually to go to the hotel together.
Since Im smiling and the whole mood is light, no warning bells go off in her
head. She has a "mental escape hatch" too in that she can excuse her own
actions later because I gave her all kinds of good and juicy reasons to go to
the hotel that weren't sex related.

So at this point, it's a 5 minute walk to the hotel. Buy Strattera No Prescription, The hardest part of the PU
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hotel, and how there are so many foreigners there to see the world cup, but how
its too bad all I do is work so I couldn't see the world cup, but that I
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comments from women about what they like or don't like sexually. Its easy to
understand and she laughs a little, Strattera pharmacy, but goes ahead and reads while I set up my
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HER: "What?"ME: "Well, the length of this line means?c" more laughing.
HER: "What, tell me?"ME: "Well, it means that you really enjoy sex. That is true, right?" I am
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ME: "Did you find one yet?"HER: "A few"ME: "Wait, you can tell me later. But I also can tell that you are a romantic
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her. I touch her arm at the anchor, then nudge her closer to the window and
stand behind her and have her look at the city lights. I talk about movie scenes
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ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"

I go in for the kiss, no resistance, she kisses back damn passionately for a
Japanese girl. The rest is simple, I lead her to the bed, get her on top of me
grinding and lift up her dress so I can finally get my hands on that G-string
and everything else I want for the rest of the sleepless night. She thanked me
later for giving her what translates into English as "the ultimate night" J

So there you have it, start to lay a one hour seduction, with 20 minutes of real
work in between. While most of you probably wont ever be in Japan, you can
picture yourself in my shoes, saying the same types of things to any woman,
imagining similar success. Go back over the "Keys to the Lay" part and review
the pieces that made it successful. There is some underlying structure there
that can help anyone be more successful with women, I hope it helps all of you
who read it.

-TokyoPUA

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


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            Warning: Reading Contents May
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         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
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         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
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     right prior to discovering that we can experience
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         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
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     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

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Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From: Maniac High's Seduction Website

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Mr. Happy writes about... Pickup Attitudes and Desireability!

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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
> don't have a phone# where I can call you, so I hope you don't come all
> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
are true even if your emotions mislead you:
1) I make no excuses for my desires as a man.
2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

o===3

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Good attitudes for being a better pickup artist!

From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

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From: JonJuan 
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
--
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my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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Status: O

When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
--
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my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

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you know how when you meet someone you haven't seen in a while, order Stromectol, you justwant to spend more time with that person... anyways, he showed me a neattrick, the four magic questions, ..." and I do the 4 magic questions on her.
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Using photo's as a gimmick to get chicks in the proper state!




From az88hiker@aol.com Mon Feb  7 08:47:09 2000
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 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
 That would be stupid.  But when she expresses her interest in a particular
photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

Chris

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Lay Report; Seducing Miss Saigon; dodging the KGB

My South East Asian trip is over now and I am back home in Tokyo
once again. Here's the highlights. Comments welcome, as usual
guys...

As for Hanoi..too poor, so same problem as Thailand, everyone will
lay you, but they will want money, yelch..

Maniac High

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Topic: LR and Tutorial: TokyoPUA 1 hour subway seduction Conf: Field
ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM

Keys to the Lay:

Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day

Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers

ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"

-TokyoPUA

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

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This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
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         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Attitude and Desireability

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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
> don't have a phone# where I can call you, so I hope you don't come all
> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
are true even if your emotions mislead you:
1) I make no excuses for my desires as a man.
2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

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From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

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From: JonJuan 
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
--
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my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

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From az88hiker@aol.com Mon Feb  7 08:47:09 2000
From: az88hiker@aol.com (Az88hiker)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Seduction Photo Album
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 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
 That would be stupid.  But when she expresses her interest in a particular
photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

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From az88hiker@aol.com Mon Feb  7 08:47:09 2000
From: az88hiker@aol.com (Az88hiker)
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Subject: Seduction Photo Album
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 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
 That would be stupid.  But when she expresses her interest in a particular
photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

Chris

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This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
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cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
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     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

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         I am willing and able to learn from you just
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     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
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     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
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     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
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     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
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     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
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     people can be possible. But behind all
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     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
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     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
> don't have a phone# where I can call you, so I hope you don't come all
> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
are true even if your emotions mislead you:
1) I make no excuses for my desires as a man.
2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

o===3

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From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

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From: JonJuan 
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
--
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my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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Status: O

When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

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From az88hiker@aol.com Mon Feb  7 08:47:09 2000
From: az88hiker@aol.com (Az88hiker)
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 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
 That would be stupid.  But when she expresses her interest in a particular
photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

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As for Hanoi..too poor, so same problem as Thailand, everyone will
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The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
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                  Just Words On A Page? 

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     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Attitude and Desireability

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From: Maniac High's Seduction Website

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Mr. Happy writes about... Pickup Attitudes and Desireability!

From: "Mr. Happy" 
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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
> don't have a phone# where I can call you, so I hope you don't come all
> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
are true even if your emotions mislead you:
1) I make no excuses for my desires as a man.
2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

o===3

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From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

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From: JonJuan 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Well I gave the HB a ride home last night.
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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Status: O

When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

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From az88hiker@aol.com Mon Feb  7 08:47:09 2000
From: az88hiker@aol.com (Az88hiker)
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 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
 That would be stupid.  But when she expresses her interest in a particular
photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

Chris

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Lay Report; Seducing Miss Saigon; dodging the KGB

My South East Asian trip is over now and I am back home in Tokyo
once again. Here's the highlights. Comments welcome, as usual
guys...

As for Hanoi..too poor, so same problem as Thailand, everyone will
lay you, but they will want money, yelch..

Maniac High

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Topic: LR and Tutorial: TokyoPUA 1 hour subway seduction Conf: Field
ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM

Keys to the Lay:

Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day

Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers

ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"

-TokyoPUA

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Attitude and Desireability

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From: Maniac High's Seduction Website

Http://www.pickupguide.com

Mr. Happy writes about... Pickup Attitudes and Desireability!

From: "Mr. Happy" 
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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
> don't have a phone# where I can call you, so I hope you don't come all
> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
are true even if your emotions mislead you:
1) I make no excuses for my desires as a man.
2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

o===3

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com

Good attitudes for being a better pickup artist!

From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

Hurricane
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From: JonJuan 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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Status: O

When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

----

From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

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Analysis/Comments on the above example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

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Using photo's as a gimmick to get chicks in the proper state!




From az88hiker@aol.com Mon Feb  7 08:47:09 2000
From: az88hiker@aol.com (Az88hiker)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Seduction Photo Album
Lines: 48
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com

 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
 That would be stupid.  But when she expresses her interest in a particular
photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

Chris

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Lay Report; Seducing Miss Saigon; dodging the KGB

My South East Asian trip is over now and I am back home in Tokyo
once again. Here's the highlights. Comments welcome, as usual
guys...

As for Hanoi..too poor, so same problem as Thailand, everyone will
lay you, but they will want money, yelch..

Maniac High

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ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM

Keys to the Lay:

Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day

Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers

ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"

-TokyoPUA

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Attitude and Desireability

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Mr. Happy writes about... Pickup Attitudes and Desireability!

From: "Mr. Happy" 
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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
> don't have a phone# where I can call you, so I hope you don't come all
> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
are true even if your emotions mislead you:
1) I make no excuses for my desires as a man.
2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

o===3

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com

Good attitudes for being a better pickup artist!

From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

Hurricane
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
--
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When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
--
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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

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http://www.pickupguide.com

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From danb@ccs.neu.edu Thu Nov 2 10:00:05 2000From: "Dante" Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Field Report: Dante Loses VirginityDate: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:17:51 -0400

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Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Mr. Happy writes about... Pickup Attitudes and Desireability!

From: "Mr. Happy" 
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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
> don't have a phone# where I can call you, so I hope you don't come all
> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
are true even if your emotions mislead you:
1) I make no excuses for my desires as a man.
2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

o===3

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com

Good attitudes for being a better pickup artist!

From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

Hurricane
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From: JonJuan 
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

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Using photo's as a gimmick to get chicks in the proper state!




From az88hiker@aol.com Mon Feb  7 08:47:09 2000
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 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
 That would be stupid.  But when she expresses her interest in a particular
photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

Chris

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Lay Report; Seducing Miss Saigon; dodging the KGB

My South East Asian trip is over now and I am back home in Tokyo
once again. Here's the highlights. Comments welcome, as usual
guys...

As for Hanoi..too poor, so same problem as Thailand, everyone will
lay you, but they will want money, yelch..

Maniac High

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Topic: LR and Tutorial: TokyoPUA 1 hour subway seduction Conf: Field
ReportsFrom: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 01:20 AM

Keys to the Lay:

Luck:-She lived nearby and had the day off the next day

Gimmicks:-Lost foreigner routine-Use of Sony Clie PDA to get initial email address and phone numbers

ME: "But Im sure you haven't yet kissed a foreign man in that way, right?"HER: "No"

-TokyoPUA

Using NLP – A good pickup website example

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

http://www.pickupguide.com



This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

Attitude and Desireability

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Mr. Happy writes about... Pickup Attitudes and Desireability!

From: "Mr. Happy" 
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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
> don't have a phone# where I can call you, so I hope you don't come all
> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
are true even if your emotions mislead you:
1) I make no excuses for my desires as a man.
2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

o===3

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Good attitudes for being a better pickup artist!

From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

Hurricane
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From bswmgr99@my-deja.com Sun Sep 26 20:45:10 1999
From: JonJuan 
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Well I gave the HB a ride home last night.
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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Status: O

When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
--
Hello, below are my net details...
my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

----

From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

-- 
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From az88hiker@aol.com Mon Feb  7 08:47:09 2000
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 Someone posted here a while back about how he likes to look at pictures on his
computer/in a photo album when he has a chick over to his house.  Since you
have to sit close together to look at the pics, you can get good kino.  I've
taken this idea and ran with it, and I think it turning into another good
seduction tool.  What I did was this:

I've assembled a photo album specifically to look at with girls when I have
them over to my apartment.  I chose the photos carefully.  They show me in a
variety of different contexts, which shows the girls my diverse interests.  But
more importantly, for every photo or group of photos, I have a pattern or story
to go with them.  Some examples:

4 photos from my senior class trip to Magic Mountain--->Roller
coasters--->discovery channel pattern

3 photo from my parents 14-year renewal of their wedding vows--->looking back
on 14 years of being in love--->good love/time distortion pattern

Photos of various friends-launching pad for various quoting patterns

A photo of my friend and his girlfriend-"Thats my friend Joe,  He once asked me
to write a poem for her, for their 6 month anniversary.  Hey, you know what? 
I've got a copy of that poem somewhere.  Would you like to hear it?"

4 photos of me at a rave-a good dancing sexual accelerator pattern I wrote "And
that beat just penetrates deep inside your body, and you just have to move your
body to the music.  You feel that rythym building, and the beat just moves your
body," etc.  (dickpoint every time you say beat or music)

3 photos taken at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show-launch into the Diamond
pattern recently posted to the mindlist

and so on.  You don't have to launch into a pattern for every photo, of course.
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photograph, you've got a ready made pattern handy. :)  I like this because you
don't have to even try to work a pattern into what you're talkikng about-the
album will do introduce the patterns for you :).  This is nice for those of us
who struggle with introducing patterns into a discussion (Although I've been
working on this.  The pattern spins on ASF and the mindlist are very useful. 
I'd like to see more pattern spins being posted-they are one of the best tools
for all of us to improve our patterning skills).

BTW, my photo album is currently only 2/3 full. If you have any ideas for other
pictures that would work for our purposes, please POST THEM TO THIS THREAD!

So, whaddya think-does this idea rate a seduction gold star?

Chris

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This is a real website put up by Ross Jeffries
to try to pickup chicks. The text below is the
cover page, and is full of NLP (see glossary on
this site), a way to use psychology to pick up
chicks.. This (and Ross's commentary in the next
link) is an excellent example of the use of NLP
in seduction.

The original site is/was at: http://www.introme.com


-Maniac


------------------------------------------------------



            Warning: Reading Contents May
             Arouse Intense Curiosity And
                     Fascination.



                  Just Words On A Page? 

         Did you ever instantly know you were going to
     like and trust someone for a long, long time?

         Maybe you only knew them for a short while but
     it seemed that you had known them your whole life,
     as if there were a timeless connection between
     you. As you read these words and remember those
     amazing feelings, it's good to know that sometimes
     life has a way of making us remember those things,
     right prior to discovering that we can experience
     those feelings again...

         With me...in my experience, it's the kind of
     thing that can't be forced and no essay or words
     can create it. Words and appearances are only
     expressions, the vehicles that contain the essence
     that moves us. It can only happen naturally as the
     expression of an energy between two people, but
     when it does...it's just like that feeling of
     incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and
     drop way, and two people come together, fused into
     one spiritual essence, the mingling of energies
     feeding one to the other, building and increasing
     and intensifying, mingling into an expression of
     aliveness that words can initiate but never
     capture fully. It has instead to be indulged
     inside your own imagination...dwelled on,
     contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

         I do not know if you are the kind of person
     that can imagine enjoying that that kind
     connection, with someone wonderful who deeply
     moves you. But if you could envision the
     possibility and feel it opening now before you,
     drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully
     could you feel that urge to read on and learn
     more?

              If these words have moved you...

         Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative,
     fun-loving woman for me and perhaps we are already
     on the way to being able to meet and feel a
     special connection; a connection based not just on
     getting what you want, but moving beyond what you
     want into what could deeply fulfill you.

         Me...I am open to that special, adventurous,
     athletic , in-shape woman who can show me she has
     a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
     humor and play to her soul. A woman, not a girl,
     who is open to new learning, indeed even thirsts
     for it, but also has her own mind. A woman who
     longs to share with someone special; someone who
     will be her friend and lover, partner and
     adventurer, who will make each day together seem
     like the first and each moment together filled
     with that sense of a timeless and indescribable
     connection.

                      Do You Remember??

         Do you remember when you were a little child
     and you went to bed expecting tomorrow to be a
     rainy stormy day? But you woke up the next morning
     and to your delight and surprise, you looked out
     to see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
     the sky? And you realized, "Hey...this day is MINE
     to make happen?" Imagine sharing those feelings
     everyday with someone who truly understands, along
     with the passions only adults can create and
     share.

                      More About Me...

         I'm 6 foot 2, athletic/slender, dark hair,
     dark eyes and I am very pre-occupied with
     stimulating and intelligent conversation; while I
     love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to
     explore one's passions. I define true passion as
     not just lust in the moment...it's not even when
     you are touched so deeply that you find you give
     all that you have. It's when you are touched so
     deeply you find things coming forth from you that
     you never even knew or imagined could be there.
     Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to
     experience with someone?

         ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite
     successful self-made entrepreneur involved in the
     human potential movement, so you'll learn lots
     from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I
     must be with someone adventurous who LOVES to
     learn new things and is longing for an amazing new
     direction. Someone who can decide on her own what
     SHE uniquely finds desirable, magnetizing and
     attractive based on her own deep feelings and
     needs. Not because society would approve. Not
     because her friends would validate it. Not even
     because it is what she is used to or expecting or
     based on seeing her "type" or what is "typical",
     because maybe what is typical hasn't really made
     you very happy in the past. But because she is
     ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
     really even thought could be possible. Because
     maybe feeling that amazing opening is the link
     between the girl inside the woman, and the woman
     inside the girl.

                       What I Like...

         I'm strongly into touching, and intense
     kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of
     the lips so soft you're not even sure you're
     kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all
     the fire that will be experienced in the
     relationship is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
     special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made
     real. It's that moment where time stands still and
     yet in that one moment, there is an eternity of
     experience to be explored. It makes your knees
     weak and your heart soar and every part of you
     comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will
     come next. 

                      It's That Moment

         It's that moment when you just stop...and look
     deep inside yourself and you are able to push
     aside all the rules and restrictions that hold you
     back...you find that you are free to look at your
     own desires with eyes unclouded by the fears of
     others. You can look deep inside and see that
     special place where you keep all your secrets.
     Inside is what you desire. You can see your
     desires and when you see your desires, you know
     that what you want is right there waiting for you
     to act on your desire. Now, with me...that's quite
     a powerful thing. When you see your desires
     clearly, maybe for the first time, the excitement
     and longing you feel is very strong. The
     excitement of knowing you can fulfill these
     desires and the longing of wanting to share that
     experience with someone who so understands how you
     feel.

                       More For You...

         I am willing and able to learn from you just
     as I am willing and able to teach you many new
     things. Moving forward together in life, longing
     for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally
     excited with permission to not only be who you
     are, but to totally explore and accept the person
     who is even NOW emerging.

         So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with
     a touch of poetry in her soul (and a bit of a
     naughty mind), then maybe you can feel surprised
     at how much you'd like to meet and learn more.
     Please understand that looks are not enough; I
     truly seek a person with a good, strong philosophy
     of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
     adventure, a love of life and learning and a great
     imagination(so very important!). Please also have
     a good sense of humor and play, and a love of all
     things sensual(if your skill with your lips
     matches your luck with your looks then maybe we
     already have something amazing in common!)

            Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

         Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
     disappointments or past experiences block us from
     holding out hope...hope that real love with real
     people can be possible. But behind all
     that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the
     let-downs and the "not quites" is the part and the
     person who believes. The one who believes in love
     and being loved for who you are. As you listen to
     the message that one is telling you right here,
     right now...NOW what do you feel just might be
     possible, if you reach out and make this yours?

              Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

         Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show
     you mine". No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind
     younger women(21+) and have dated/enjoyed a few,
     but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
     sustain the excitement; thrilled to be your
     teacher but not looking to be a babysitter! So my
     preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and
     flowing with life, a few years older won't matter
     either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How strong
     can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND
     EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

         Of course, you don't have to email me right
     away; you might want to take a few minutes to feel
     the excitement and anticipation or even read this
     page over a few times before you email me. Then
     you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction
     you feel as you look forward to receiving my
     reply!

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> Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
>
> -----
>
> Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking me
> to look for a car and I REALLY need one. I hope you get this message. I
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> the way out here.

> C you in class tomorrow,
> Camilla
>
> -----
>
> Bitch.  You know, if she REALLY wanted to be with me, like if she had a
> crush on me, then she would have gone out of her way to study with me
> tonight.  So what do I say to her in class tomorrow?  And should I email
> her back saying anything? Is she playing hard to get??

1) There was a point in time, in the past, when she found you attractive
sexually.
2) She no longer finds you attractive sexually.
3) She either thinks that you are a pussy, or that you are not interested in
her.  Those are the signs you have been sending her.
4) She is NOT playing hard to get.  She uses you where she can and she blows
you off otherwise.  She derives feminine satisfaction from manipulating you.

This is one of the BASICS:  Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can
manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you
as a pawn.
Read the above sentence 10 times.

One piece of advice that is given here often (when a guy is pining over a
specific woman) is for you to go out and fuck 10 other women first and then
come back to her.  If your skills are not yet up to the level where you can
do that, then THAT is the true problem that needs fixing.  Asking our advice
is useless if you don't follow it.

Here are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, behave as if they
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2) I move through this world without apology.
3) I like to fuck women.
4) I don't need any particular woman, I am not needy.  Women are a dime a
dozen.
5) I DO NOT SUPPLICATE TO WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FIND IT UNATTRACTIVE.
6) Rejection is a good thing, not a bad thing.  The more I get rejected, the
more I will get laid.  I learn something every time.  If a woman rejects me
it just shows how stupid she is.  My gain, her loss.

You need to go out and approach 12 women a day, 4 days/nights a week.
That's 48 women a week.  Your skills will undergo massive improvement with
such practice.  You should always be able to blow off any woman to go pick
up another one.

It is only after you do these things that the original swedish girl will
start to find you attractive again.  And if she doesn't, oh well, at least
you are getting laid.

Look I respect the fact that you are posting this shit and trying to improve
your situation.  But if you don't listen to us and put in the effort, you
will not get the results.  As Mystery said, if you won't even put in the
effort, then you are a pussy and evolution is weeding you out.  If you DO
put in the effort, you WILL improve and get great results.  Do not ever
fixate on any one woman, it turns her off.  To lay her, she must believe
that you like to fuck women, that you would like to fuck her, but that you
don't NEED her because you have all kinds of women all over you.

Got it?

As far as your current situation, she is disrespecting you.  It IS a form of
test, although she is already assuming that you have failed the test.  In
order to pass, you must:
1) Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2) Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3) Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4) Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.

(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that
(1,2,3) are true.

o===3

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Good attitudes for being a better pickup artist!

From Cane_69@hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 01:31:38 2000
From: "Cane_69" 
Subject: 10 rules of PU
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast

These are collected from the group or my experience (it's basically how
to be the alpha male and a few other rules) :

1.  PUing follows the FMAC model (Find Meet Attract Close)
2.  Have the attitude that every girl wants to sleep with you, it's
just a matter of you wanting to sleep with her, having the spare time
to do it and giving her the oportunity. Always prepare yourself and
assume sucess.
3.  Desperation is not something you experience.  It's something other
guys who aren't PU artists experience.
4.  No woman is more important than your pride and your happiness. 
Another one is hoping to take her place in your life and is waiting
right around the corner. 
5.  PU is a win/win for both you and the woman.  But do unto others...
6.  Humor is the most import single technique to sucess.
7.  Confidence in a relaxed way is the most important factor to sucess.
8.  Never get stressed out, discombobulated or worried that things
aren't going right or perfect.  Always remain calm, relaxed and
reactive in possitive way to any challenges.  Always act in a slow calm
powerful manner.
9.  Never appologize or try to think ahead to make life easier for the
woman.  Never dote.  Don't "supplicate".  Make her work for it (whether
"it" means the realationship, the conversation or the first date)
10. Look, smell and sound your best.  Never make it harder than it has
to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.

Hurricane
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You say the words "player" like it is a BAD thing ;-)

It depends how you "play".  If you play a couple
girls while you are getting NOTHING from them..
then it is OK.  Once you get SOMETHING or SOMEWHERE
with one, then the ethical questions come into play.

Before then, it is all about SURVIVAL.  Just ask
yourself, do you only apply to ONE job if you are
unsure if you will GET the job.  Do you only ask
for ONE opinion, when you are not sure of the
validity or truth of that first opinion?

Of course not!  Why be any different with women
or the friends you choose.

Girls play this game all the time, and have whipped
guys into submission over the years.

It's really that simple.

The sad thing is a LOT of girls don't even realize
this themselves..and so if you think they are not
playing this game with you on PURPOSE.. then you
could very well be right.  It's all conditioning
for THEIR survival.

This has become their INSTINCT in helping them
find their best possible match.

Start worrying about your own.  Get in touch
with your natural instincts.  You're not being
an animal.. you're just tapping into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your
choices.

You will be happier in the end, and will be
sure that YOU have made the right decision.

Just do it with class, style.. and most of all
have fun and learn!

ONE MORE THING:

Once you think you've won her over.  Don't start
gushing over her, getting caught up (too much)
in the moment.  She may try to TEST you and see
if you can take it.  She may try to make YOU
jealous, by pulling the same game on her.

Pretend you don't care.  No matter how much it
eats away at you.. pretend you don't care.

You have to keep yourself in shape to stay
on top.  The longer you are together, and the
more you know her, the more you can start
letting your guard down.

Do it at your pace.

But find a balance.  You're new to this and
may find your self over compensating.. this could
also lead to potentially spoiling the moment
with paranoia.. be sure to post here often and
listen to what different people have to say.

Good luck man!!

>From danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999
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I used this a couple of times. IT works. You may add values inside those
"patterns", that you have elicited.

Fluff talk - 3-10  minutes.. During fluff use humour / tease sequences
(when she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hips and tummy and neck),
use NEGS if needed (depends on rating). Make sure rapport has been
established and the girl has given u signs of interest. BTW KINO on the
arm/hand as soon as you say hi (to show her u r a sexual being).

Connection(reverse type):

You know.. sometimes .. when i meet someone i get this feeling inside
(PTS) .. i dont know what it is.. but i know it feels good (PTS).. and i
cant help but want to get close to that person and get to know
her..(point to her).. do you ever get that feeling when you meet a guy
(PTS)?

Let her say shit.. if its positive move on if negative do some more
rapport building....

Passion:  (continuation)

Passion and desire (touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant hold
back...  you want to touch the person (PTS or if u feel brave take her
hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and builds (touch
her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling is so pleasurable..
(touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky (touch her hips) and your tummy
feels weird (touch her stomach)

Note: she should be fucking dripping... and if she aint u shouldnt have
launched these without establishing anchors and rapport

(smile and look in her eyes DONT say a fucking thing for 3 seconds)

Passion and desire.. (touch neck and pull her a little closer)

(KINO TIME (kiss))

Enjoy the fucking.. use the lines i supplied before to confirm and
change venue for a fuck.

BTW its more effective if u r both sitting down...
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my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation, thats
right!, i am mentally masturbating them which often follows into
physical. They cant help but have their attention on me, the good
feelings of laughter and the ego trap of the tease gets them hooked
(although there comes a time when even a tease is highly pleasurable
even if not straight away).

Love the basic human psychology, you make the girl feel good, she will
naturally reciprocate, except her instincts tell her to please the man
sexually.

I love the little gem by mystery where he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, now how devious is that?
You make her feel self conscious and then you relieve the very feelings
you caused.
hahah

Daniel's cookbook of speed seduction.....

1) NEG hits to disarm initial bitch shield (if needed)
2) Small Talk
3) Tease.. Humour Sequences ...Sprinkle several sexual innuendos
(Extreme Moderation is the key word here)
4) Wait for any sign of her sexuality building... (prolonged eye
contact, open body language towards you etc etc, Shouldnt take longer
than 10 mins tops)
5) Then go for a string of humour sequences (no teasing at this stage,
use more frequent sexual innuendos though BEING SUBTLE IS VERY IMPORTANT
SO AS NOT TO MAKE HER FEEL SELF CONSCIOUS).....
6) NEG HIT... (destabilise her, make sure its still in the right format,
in that its covered in humour)
7) Get onto her right there!  Fuck her in any convenient private or
public (hehe) place.

Done.

Whole process shouldnt take longer than 20 mins.

Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut level she
is finding your powerful method overwhelming.. Leave the girl alone.
This will work on a majority so dont worry.

NB: The last neg hit part will be unnecessary in most situations anyway.
Some HBs will require it though.
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my home page     ->  http://home.primus.com.au/danielt
my email address ->  danielt@SPAMSUXprimus.com.au
Regards, Daniel :)

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sun Feb 13 01:21:37 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: I just got tested... what to do?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:30:49 GMT, Feisal Keblawi 
 wrote:
| Thats more or less what I was saying.  But when women test us like this,
| are they CONSCIOUSLY testing us, or is it all in the subconscious?  Are
| they doing it on purpose, just to see if they can jerk us around, or did
| they really "honestly" forget for whatever reason?

I don't think they test as in "let's see in this guy is
a whimp". I think it goes more or less like this:
"Damn, I'm not sure I want to see that guy ... well
he's cool BUT ... nah I don't want to see him this
time maybe I'll see him later and I'll know how I'll
feel"

From what I've 1- read in female magazines 2- read in
psychology textbooks 3- heard from female friends
when this kind of situation arises, it's exactly where
they are positively impressed by a strong will.

In the words of Vicky (formerly featured in the "home
made porn" section of the lounge), when she's not sure
she goes for the guy who appears to desire her the most.

Does that seem to contradict what we have established 
WRT women not desiring NEEDY types?

Indeed, it might appear as contradictory ... but as
Alain Soral puts it .. it's about showing that you
WANT her, as opposed to NEEDing her.

DESIRE != NEED

Hmm ... that's interesting, as I type that, I'm starting
to understand exactly how I fucked a few times lately.

Well, bottom line is, it's been shown that women fall
for men who show persistance. Be persistant. Quite the
opposite of what Ray teaches ... One and done my ass.

Persist. And persist in showing strong will. Do not
abdicate. Accepting her BS is being weak. Backingoff
is being weak. Persisting is being strong. 

Then there is that line where stalking begins ...
obviously, "stalking" falls in the "needy" category.

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Analysis/Comments on the above example

Maniac High — Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:00:00 +0000

From the archives at: Maniac High's Seduction Website

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Here is Ross Jeffries' analysis of his own NLP in his pickup website!



>From sandworm@mediaone.net Fri Oct  1 23:06:16 1999
From: sandworm@mediaone.net (Ross Jeffries)
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Subject: A LESSON IN PATTERNS: ,I AM ROSSYMANDIAS, KING OF KINGS..GAZE UPON INTROME.COM YE BABIES AND DESPAIR!
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Greetings, Ladies!

 Now that the "cat" is out of the bag about introme.com, I have decided,
in my awesome geneROSSity to explain it, phrase by phrase, so that you
befuddled children may learn to do EVEN better!

               GAZE UPON MY WORKS YE BABIES AND DELIGHT!


Did you ever instantly know you were going to like and trust someone for a
long, long time?

  ( A simple use of languaging to get them to recall a feeling state of
trust so that everything else that follows is accepted and acceptable)




 Maybe you only knew them for a short while but it seemed that you had
known them your whole life, as if  there were a timeless connection
between you. 


  (A more detailed description to deepen the experience)




As you read these words and remember those amazing feelings, 


  (Linking ongoing behavior to feelings I wish them to have)



it's
good to know that sometimes life has a way of making us remember those
things, right prior to discovering that we
 can experience those feelings again...

  ( The fact that she IS remembering these things is PROOF that she is
about to experience it again. She isn't experiencing them because she's
reading the languaging..but because she's about to experience it again! It
isn't a production..it is an OMEN!  A PROOF!)



     With me...in my experience, it's the kind of thing that can't be
forced and no essay or words can create it.

  (Therefore her feeling it is NOT because of the fact she's reading
something LOADED with languaging! It MUST be natural..and therefore, not
to be resisted!)


   Words and appearances are only expressions, the vehicles that contain
the essence that moves us. It can only happen  naturally as the expression
of an energy between two people,


     (Again, it isn't a MANIPULATION but a DISCOVERY!)






 but when it does...it's just like that feeling of
 incredible bonding, when all the barriers melt and drop way, and two
people come together, fused into one spiritual  essence, 


  (more detailed description to deepen the state and the ambiguity of
"come together" begins the process of sexualizing it)





the mingling of energies feeding one to the other, building and increasing
and intensifying, mingling into  an expression of aliveness that words can
initiate but never capture fully.


  (Hmmm..if WORDS can't fully capture it, then the only way for her to get
ALL the goodies..the ENTIRE cookie..is to MAKE IT REAL WITH ACTIONS!)








 It has instead to be indulged inside your
 own imagination...dwelled on, contemplated, experienced, deep, deep inside you.

  ( I want her looping on it....not just reading once and forgetting it...)



  I do not know if you are the kind of person 
                                           

  ( A challenge..is SHE sharp enough...DEEP enough...GOOD enough?)


that can imagine enjoying that that kind connection, with
someone wonderful who deeply moves you. 

(commanding her to imagine it)(and note the ambiguity of "someone
wonderful"..WHICH someone?)





But if you could envision the possibility and feel it opening now before
you, drawing you irresistibly forward, how powerfully could you feel that
urge to read on and learn more?

  (linking the feelings to the behavior I want, which is KEEP READING)

                                            If these words have moved you...

  Then perhaps you are the special, imaginative, fun-loving woman for me
and perhaps we are already on the way

 (PERHAPS...in other words,   I    am not sure about
  YOU   ...  YOU    must prove yourself to   ME   )




 to being able to meet and feel a special connection; a connection based
not just on getting what you want, but moving beyond what you want into
what could deeply fulfill you.

  (AHH...this is good: the CONTRAST principle. Introducing the idea that
what she WANTS isn't really what has deeply fulfilled her and
INSTEAD...she must seek something else! Appeals to the unmet need in
virtually EVERY woman! And it is vague enough that SHE will fill in the
blanks and ascribe the answer to that need or needs as being...ME...and
therefore guess who gets to DEFINE THAT FOR HER?  ME!)

 Me...I am open to that special, adventurous, athletic , in-shape woman
who can show me she has a sense of purpose to her life and a sense of
humor and play to her soul. 


(Who can show me....again, SHE must meet MY challenge!)




            A woman, not a girl,

(Hmmm..ANOTHER challenge: are you a girl or are you a WOMAN who can decide
for herself what is attractive? Or must you pick someone the other "girls"
would approve of?)

 who is open to new learning,indeed even thirsts for it, but also has her
own mind. A woman who longs to share with someone special; someone
who will be her friend and lover, partner and adventurer, who will make
each day together seem like the first and each moment together filled with
that sense of a timeless and indescribable connection.


   (deepening and returning to what she will experience with me by further
description)




                                                 Do You Remember??

     Do you remember when you were a little child and you went to bed
expecting tomorrow to be a rainy stormy day? 

(I'm aiming at doing a few things here with this and the next few lines of
languaging: I want to by-pass the cynical adult who may be reading this
and age-regress her to the little girl who can believe in "true love". And
I'm going to use a universal experience to do so.....)







But you woke up the next morning and to your delight and surprise, you
looked out to see a brightly
            shining sun, and not a cloud in the sky? And you realized,
"Hey...this day is MINE to make happen?"


 (Here I help her to recapture that feeling that anything can be hers..to
give back the sense of possibility...                                      
  (Another challenge: do you have a brain with the body and face, honey,
or are you just a dumb bimbo!)






while I love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to explore one's
passions. 

  (Ah..contrasting exterior travel with the INWARD journey!)






I define true  passion as not just lust in the moment

 (She's certainly ALREADY had that before with OTHER guys..so she's
following along..)





...it's not even when you are touched so deeply that you find you give all that
    you have. 

(Wow..really? It's rare for her to even have THAT, but what this guy is
offering is even MORE? I GOTTA KEEP READING!)






It's when you are touched so deeply you find things coming forth from you
that you never even knew or imagined could be there.

(Whoa! You mean love with this guy will TRANSFORM me into someone new and
different? Let me feel things I NEVER could with anyone else? WOW! He's
rare and special!)





 Can you feel that.....would be an amazing thing to experience with someone?

 (Telling her to feel it)



                  ME: I'm not a doctor or attorney but quite successful
self-made entrepreneur involved in the human  potential movement, so
you'll learn lots from me about spirit and mind as well as body! I must be
with someone
adventurous who LOVES to learn new things and is longing for an amazing
new direction.



(Some fluff and descriptions of me....then I put in the demand that she be
willing to learn new things, which is TRUE and also yet another challenge.
And then the ambiguity about AN AMAZING NEW DIRECTION (NUDE ERECTION)







 Someone who can decide on her own what SHE uniquely finds desirable,
magnetizing and attractive based on her own deep feelings  and needs. 

(Translation: if she DOESN'T find me attractive, it is because she can't
think for herself! ANOTHER CHALLENGE! COUNT'EM, LADIES!)





Not because society would approve. Not because her friends would validate
it. Not even because it is  what she is used to or expecting or based on
seeing her "type" or what is "typical", because maybe what is typical
hasn't really made you very happy in the past.         
                                      
                         



(A truism AND a play on words between "type" and "typical" that will
UTTERLY destroy the "not my type" objection!)




    But because she is ready...truly ready..for something beyond what she
really even thought could be possible. Because maybe feeling that amazing
opening is the link between the girl  inside the woman, and the woman
inside the girl.


 (A way of making her even more open to suggestion: if it is beyond what
she really  even    thought    could be possible, SHE cannot define it,
and must accept things as   I   structure and define them. Accepting
this creates a "blank slate" of suggestibility.  Then the ambiguity about
an "amazing opening"..do I mean "opening" as in Vagina or the act of
opening inwardly.....plus the languaging of linking the girl and the woman
recaptiulates the freedom of the child with the power of the
adult..reinforcing the previous state I evoked!)

                             What I Like...

                  I'm strongly into touching, and intense
kissing(electricity)...that first, soft brush of the lips so soft you're
 not even sure you're kissing yet, and it's as if all the passion..all the
fire that will be experienced in the relationship is enfolded in that one,
first, soft, special kiss, just waiting to be explored and made real



(Here I am eroticizing things but in an acceptable, poetic way by dwelling
on that first, amazing kiss...getting them to have some nice body feelings
too! Somaticizing it to make it more, even MORE vivid and REAL!)






     It's that moment where time stands still and yet in that one moment,
there is an eternity of experience to be explored. It makes your knees
 weak and your heart soar and every part of you
comes...alive...awakened...ready for whatever will come next. 

  (Deepening the state by more describing!)





                                It's That Moment

                  It's that moment when you just stop...and look deep
inside yourself and you are able to push aside all the
            rules and restrictions that hold you back...you find that you
are free to look at your own desires with eyes
            unclouded by the fears of others. You can look deep inside and
see that special place where you keep all your
            secrets. Inside is what you desire. You can see your desires
and when you see your desires, you know that what
            you want is right there waiting for you to act on your desire.
Now, with me...that's quite a powerful thing. When
            you see your desires clearly, maybe for the first time, the
excitement and longing you feel is very strong. The
            excitement of knowing you can fulfill these desires and the
longing of wanting to share that experience with
            someone who so understands how you feel.


(This I confess I took from Odious who used it in a AOL profile.  The idea
is to get her to look at her deepest needs WITHOUT shame or fear and to
feel permission to explore this with that one, SPECIAL man...me! Credit
where credit is due, to Odie!)








                          More For You...

                  I am willing and able to learn from you just as I am
willing and able to teach you many new things. Moving forward together in
life, longing for this amazing new direction. Feeling totally excited with
permission to not only be who you are, but to totally explore and accept
the person who is even NOW emerging.       
                                                        
           

(AHHHH...there's the rub....creating TWO of her..the OLD her with her
"fixed" ideas of what is attractive, acceptable, desirable..tasty..and the
NEW her...who she will discover through accepting MY suggestions, feeling
totally alive with the PERMISSIONS   I   GRANT HER!)




                  So if perhaps you are this woman, 21-39, with a touch of
poetry in her soul (and a bit of a naughty mind), then maybe you can feel
surprised at how much you'd like to meet and learn more. 

(Then again, she may not be surprised at ALL at how much she wants to meet
and learn more!)




 Please understand that looks are not enough; I truly seek a person with a
good, strong philosophy of life, a high-self esteem, a sense of fun and
 adventure, a love of life and learning and a great imagination(so very
important!). 


(All 100% totally true requirements of mine and also MORE tests for HER to
pass! If she responds at all, SHE'S ACCEPTED  MY  FRAME THAT I HAVE SET
THAT   I   am the prize and SHE must work for ME!)






    Please also have a good sense ofhumor and play, and a love of all
things sensual(if your skill with your lips matches your luck with your
looks then
 maybe we already have something amazing in common!)

  (A bit of boasting here by asking if SHE can give as good oral as I can...)



                     Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?

                  Sometimes in life, we get hurt and let our
disappointments or past experiences block us from holding out  hope...hope
that real love with real people can be possible.

(Ok...right about now, I want to destroy/innoculate against the "This is
too good to be true objection"...so I VERBALLY PACE IT FIRST.....this is
usually a great match for what she is thinking and so it ADDS to the power
of what I have been doing! Wow! HE UNDERSTANDS! Ladies: VERBALLY PACE HER
ONGOING REALITY, BOTH EXTERNAL AN INTERNAL AND YOU CAN POWERFULLY
INNOCULATE AGAINST ANY POSSIBLE OBJECTIONS AND INSTEAD USE THEM TO
OVERWHELMINGLY INCREASE RAPPORT!!!! THIS PRINCIPLE WILL MAKE YOU A REAL
"PUA" INSTEAD OF YOU WANNA-BE GINZA BABIES!)








 But behind all that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the let-downs
and the "not quites" is the part and the person who believes.

(Ahhh...the fact that part of her may not believe is only PROOF that there
IS a deeper and MUCH more willing part! The doubt you WERE feeling is the
VERY reason AND signal to go inside and BELIEVE TOTALLY!)




 The one who believes in love and   being loved for who you are. As you
listen to the message that one is telling you right here, right now...NOW
what
 do you feel just might be possible, if you reach out and make this yours?


  (Create or re-energize that part and she will, from this alone, feel so
wonderful, alive and NEW that she'll want to jump ya out of sheer
gratitude and how great she feels...note also the command into
ACTION..dont' just feel it, but "reach out and make this yours..by
following the instructions in the next paragraph! So I give the command
and then the specifics of WHAT TO DO!)

                   Here Is Your Next Step To Take...

                  Got pics? Well...you show me yours, I'll show you mine".
No pics? Then don't ask! I don't mind younger women(21+) and have
dated/enjoyed a few, but you younger gals, don't write me if you can't
sustain the  excitement; thrilled to be your teacher but not looking to be
a babysitter! 


  (I'm DESTROYING the age objection by telling the youngsters, "HEY..DON'T
WASTE  MY   time "girls" unless you can be a WOMAN with me!)



So my preference is 27-39, please! (If you're hot and flowing with life, a
few years older won't matter either!) Piqued your interest? Good! How
strong
 can you feel that building before you RESPOND AND EMAIL ME at paul@introme.com

  (Link the feeling TO THE ACTION! THEY MUST TAKE!)

                  Of course, you don't have to email me right away; you
might want to take a few minutes to feel the excitement and anticipation
or even read this page over a few times before you email me.

 ( A false choice...do what I want now or wait a few minutes and DO WHAT I
WANT!)




 Then you can look back on it and enjoy the satisfaction you feel as you
look forward to receiving my reply! 

  (Future pace them feeling great ALREADY HAVING ACTED!)


   

    Got it, ladies? Not a word wasted and all fine-crafted. And ALL of
this language can be used in other contexts and formats.  


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