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Maniac’s No Nonsense Guide to Laying a Chick for beginners

Maniac High — Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000

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Le guide de séduction de base de Maniac High (French translated version)

Here it is virgins and newbies, the guide you won't find any where else! Maniac High?s one
page crib notes on how to catch, seduce and lay a chick for the guy that doesn?t know
how!

NOTICE; THIS STUFF WORKS! YOU ABSOLVE ME OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR
WHAT MAY HAPPEN IF YOU FOLLOW THIS. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! IT IS
EXPERIMENTAL! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK ONLY!

Note, this is a very condensed summary. Although this will get you started, there is far
far more to learn besides what's in this file to be successful ... To learn more
details, look at Maniac's website (http://www.pickupguide.com), its free, or read USENET
alt.seduction.fast to get really good at this shit..

So, with no further ado, here is what you gotta do to lay a chick, in a bunch of clear easy
steps!

First, the summary: Basically, the steps are:
-Do the pickup
-Get her alone
-Get her feeling secure
-Get her laughing
-Get her imagination going and horny
-Pour on the kino (physical contact)
-Kiss and then fuck her

So here we go, the step by step guide!

A)The pickup, First meeting the chick and making an impression
-Speak with good tonality, clearly, and deeply whenever you talk to a woman.
-Make good eye contact.
-Get Eye contact, maybe a smile then approach her, slowly, and compliment her
(if she?s not so pretty, and if she is DO NOT compliment her on her
appearance) / introduce yourself.
-[Another way that works, if you are with a wingman (a guy friend also with
you), is to talk about the chick (fuck, that skirt is short), a bit loudly,
to your wingman, but so the chick can hear. She will then look at you, and
then continue as if you just introduced yourself.
-Talk a little more (do you live near here/work near here..blah blah). Use
some humor and jokes...you want to get her smiling / laughing or anything
else after this step wont work (VERY IMPORTANT!)
-Ask her for going to coffee right there, to continue talking.
-If she's busy, get her phone number (if she asks for yours instead, insist
or tell her to forget it (joke that you never give your number to a girl,
because "you wont call..will you, you will just show it to all your friends,
giggle and then throw it away...won't you ;-)".. at this point she should
give you hers (or at least trade). If not, forget it, as she will not call
you anyways, so just leave.
-If you give her yours, then you've supplicated to her, you've let her take
control. (women dont like guys they can control..its boring, and its not
fun/exciting for them, even if they dont admit it openly).

B)
-You meet her someplace (near your house so you can get her over later
that night) later when she is not with her friends, either right away,
or you called her and invited her "to coffee (or a drink) around 8pm after
your supper business meeting/class" (why spend money on supper for her
now? What has she done for YOU? so far..NOTHING!), and also, supper is boring
for most chicks, skip it till AFTER you have fucked her). Also, if its going
bad, you can blow her out after 15/20 minutes (and make her pay her drink).
For supper, this is harder to do, and you are stuck with her for 1 hr while
you wait for all the food and bullshit..
-As soon as you meet her, hug her (and try to) kiss her ASAP if you
can (like in the first 5 seconds). If she doesn't look like she will go
for a kiss, give a big smile, hug her, and gesture her to kiss your cheek
with your finger. This gets you started, and will set the tone for the
rest of the evening.
-Choose a place you can sit next to the chick (not facing, with a table
between you). If you are next to her, you can get close to her, and start
kino (touching), but with a table between, you cant.
-The goal of this date (at minimum), is to get her laughing/smiling/start
massive amounts of kino, get her to accept holding her hand, and a tongue
down at the end of the evening. If its going really well, get her over right
then, or save that for the next time when you invite her to make supper with
you at your place.
-So, now, at the first evening at the coffee shop/beer place. Talk about her
work, her dreams, find out her core values, what is important to her, and try
to link to that.
-Learn to tell stories, this gets her imagination going, talk about things
like adventure, her ideal relationship (see if she wants a relationship,
or just sex...you can tell by her reaction), the feelings that brings out
inside her when she meets someone new, suddenly, and how magical that
is..blah blah blah.. If she is not the "relationship" kind of chick, then
talk about "friendship", and how it is so wonderful to be friends (see
my Mr. Smooth post, on my page).
-Keep good eye contact, watch for her lean words, and use those in your
conversation..
-Use jokes, be funny, to get her thinking in an intimate mood ("Ie; I bet
when you dress like that, you get attention of all the guys...blah blah).
-Ask her about her previous BFs.
-While you are doing all this, often (when you laugh..etc), touch her side
waist, or shoulder, or back with your hand, firmly.. (dont do the hands or
hips yet, unless she starts to initiate/get in closer, or starts touching
your shoulder/waist sometimes). This is authoritarian, and she will respect
this, and your authority. Do this OFTEN.
-Talk some more, tell more stories (I tell a story about "My friend, who
is a playgirl, and tries to sleep with married men.. Can you believe that..
I mean, did you ever do like her.. ie Have you ever had a 1 night stand...
blah blah".
-Then I move on to the story of my drunk chick co-workers, who at a dinner
party, we asked if they ever did a 3p (3 person) sex, and one raised her
hand. Then I asked how many wanted to, and ALL raised their hands! And then
got each to tell us all the stuff they did with their BFs (costume play,
SM..etc).. Did you ever have any BF's like this?".
-Judge her reactions to the above story, this will tell you what she might/
might not be interested in.
-She may ask you about old GFs, so tell her some good stories (if you
dont have any, use the ones from lay reports on my web page)..
-Every time you laugh, or say something, put your hand on her shoulder, or
waist, or thigh, gently, but authoritively..get the kino going.
-Talk about "do you know that more romance novels are sold in the US than
porno mags for men? One of my friends said that romance novels is basically
woman's pornography.. you know, like when the woman meets the ideal guy..."
t..and suddenly they 'clicked right there' blah blah blah and she couldn't
believe how close she was getting to him..blah blah..)
-Find out about old BF's, what she liked/didn't like. And when she mentions
a feeling, elaborate on it (the good feelings and how you like them, and the
bad ones; how you hate it when that happens, and how to feel YYY (good
feeling) is much better..
-Ask, "how do you know you are getting into a special relationship, or
someone has become your boyfriend" (and then do /talk about
those steps), get her visualizing that ideal relationship/time with a guy..
-finish drinking.
-As you are doing this talking, touch her shoulder when she is saying her
answers, or her leg (she is sitting next to you, so should be easy), start
even more kino.
-Do a 'hand reading', or comment how her skin is soft, and kid how she never
does the dishes or something like that.
-Also, ask her what kinds of dishes she likes to cook (this is the setup for
the next date, at your place, in case she doesn't come over to fuck you
tonight right after the drinks).
-After that, remark, how another time, we can make that dish together
(kiddingly).
-Dont be too gentleman during this evening..treat her as a 'friend' with your
tonality, but be kino. Ie. you are the prize, and she is NOT.
-Wrap up the drinks. Make her pay her own if you can (ie. if she offers her
part..let her..fuck this gentleman shit, it is supplication, you just went
casually for drinks, friend to friend not on a real date..).
-If it is going really well, ask her over to appreciate your potted
plants/record collection/gourmet coffee/wine..etc.
-If its not ready yet, go to step "C"

C)Ground work...get her ready to fuck.
-Maniac has found that GROUNDWORK is real important (ie. kissing/feeling up
the chick before getting her to your place). If you don't do this, she often
freezes up and freaks out when she gets to your place. Getting to your place
is a REWARD for her letting you kiss her and feel her up.
-After, go for a short walk. When you get outside, offer her your arm a-la
french style, to escort the lady ( more physical action..she gets to feel
your touch more!).
If you did the above talking right in the restaurant, she will be comfortable
with this and take your arm. If she doesn't, then you got a wierdo, or a
paranoid, and you wont get far with her..make it an early night and get rid
of her.
-Try to take her hand (maybe stop at a window of a shop or something and
look at something with her, then when you continue, take her hand). Rub her
hand a bit as you walk too. See if she reciprocates (if she does, it is kiss
time)..
-Go to a safe, but not crowded area, (park/bench on the street), and look at
her eyes, still holding her hand(s), and just say "do you want to kiss me".
Anything but a clear direct NO you say, and move in and kiss her..
-If that doesn't look like it will work, say "okay, lets see", and then
kiss her. Make it short, and end the kiss first, then say "wow, that was
very good, one more..", and go in for more. First soft on the lips, then
later, tongue action, if she starts to open her mouth as you kiss.
-If this is going well, and you can touch her here and there as kissing is
happening, then you want to get her back ASAP [Step "E"].
-If not, goto Step "D" below.

D)Continue the nice walk at night in town, she should be used to just
grabbing your arm by now for walking if you did this right. If she does
it spontaneously, then you just gently, but intentionally take her hand.
-Walk/talk/ tell more stories to get her visualizing..
-At some point, go to the bathroom or something, so you break her hand
contact.
-When you come back, she should reach back for your hand now if you did all
this right so far. If not, then you need to tell more stories and make her
visualize some more about love/attraction/relationships/excitement blah blah.
-If its going really well, you can try to kiss her in the park, while telling
her some story about sudden romance, and asking her what kind of person she
is. The answer will tell you if you can kiss her or not.
-If you cant kiss her now, then there is another chance later you should
take when you say goodbye that evening, if you don't get to fuck her that
night.
-Walk some more, and escort her back (to the trainstation/car..whatever).
-Give her a slow kiss if she kissed you before, and if not, give her a quick
one on the lips and say thank you, it was a pleasure to meet you and spend
time tonight (if it really was).
-If she looks ready to come over to your place to fuck, tell her that you
have some pictures/art/music/gourmet coffee/spaghetti you'd like to share
with her, and if she'd like to come. She will likely say "no" the first time,
so be persistant and insist (spend 5 minutes at this before giving up).

-Note though, that lots of girls don't want to fuck the first day, and may
give you trouble with this. So if it doesn't look like she is willing to
come over TONIGHT, just end the evening for now.
-ANother power move is to just say "lets go", and dont tell her where you
are going. Then when (if) she asks, tell her you are taking her over so you
can spend more time together, hugging and being closer.
-Then, Dont talk about the next date. Its better to make her think she did
something wrong, or wonder.
-If things are going really well though, either ask her over RIGHT THEN, to
see your drawings, or to play piano, or whatever, or make a date for
TOMORROW, at your place.
-If things went just okay, dont worry, just you need more work. Call her in a
day or two, and tell her how it would be great if we met again. Make the
meeting..which is as follows..
-If you could kiss her in the park, then invite her over for lunch/supper.
If not, then do another drink date, 8pm and pour on the initial hug, kino..
etc.. and try again to kiss her some point in the night, more than a quickie
kiss and get her over ASAP (she should, since she DID agree to see you again)..

E)She is coming over:
-When you meet her, give her a hug right away, and take her hand, try to kiss
her if you can (settle for the cheek if you have to).
-This is important, and will set the tone for the entire rest of the evening.
You MUST do this as soon as you meet her.
-After that take her hand/arm, and all that over again from the beginning,
because chicks often lose that romantic state from the last time they saw you,
till then. You can get through it all pretty fast, tell more stories, move to
holding hands..blah blah, and try to kiss her more (before you get to the
house if you can, so she doesn't feel threatened, but somehow she is reminded
whats coming). It may seem strange, but you have to start over at the
beginning, and run through this all over again (usually) to get all the
feelings going to where you left off the last time you saw her if it has been
a few days..
-When you get her over, try to kiss her (just say "do you want to kiss me,
or say "I want to kiss you"..if resistance, then just a "short one") and
get physical (gently) as soon as she gets in the place. If she is resisting,
or is not in the "right mood", then do the supper/order pizza first, and
save the fuck till after..
-Have a nice supper, (possibly with romantic candles and soft music...or
order that pizza, and watch a movie in the living room (again, you'll be next
to her, so you can do kino). If you make supper, eat it in the living room
with the movie too, so you can do kino. The dinner table sucks, you cant
touch her there, so forget that..
-After/during supper, kiss more, and do gentle kino.. a long kiss ..
-To start the kiss, just look in her eyes, and ask her if she is a romantic
person, or "do you want to kiss me" (thanks Mystery for that tip!). After
she says yes (if she doesn?t, you have a problem, go back up a few steps on
the list/tell more stories), say nothing, and give her a light kiss on the
lips, and then more longer/deeper kisses.
-Ok, now you are at first base, now, lets get to the fuck..

F)How to get the physical stuff going so you can fuck her..
- DO NOT TALK AT ALL FROM NOW ON, TILL AFTER YOU FUCK HER!
-Kiss her french for a short bit (like 30 seconds).
-Then move your lips to kiss her on the neck, ears, let your hands wander, to
her breasts..etc, over her clothes. as you kiss her.
-If that goes okay, keep going, kiss her neck, and front of neck, and then
back to the ear.
-If it doesn't go okay, try more gentle kissing, and teasing, be funny, not
nervous., ie. back up a couple steps and then continue. It make take you 4 or
5 "backup and retries to get past this.."
-Chicks ears are really sensitive, as you are kissing the ear and licking it,
raise her shirt/bra, kiss her on her shoulders, around her breasts, just a
tap, and move somewhere else with your lips, and then move back now and then,
kissing more and more her breasts.. she should start to get very excited..
-[sometimes, right around here, she will freeze up and say "do you really
like me..are you playing me..blah blah... ". This is the last of the
barriers to come down. Tell her how your life changed since you met her, and
how strangely, you just felt so at ease, comfortable and close since you
met her and how it was so special in some strange way, which is why you
felt you had to see her again"... then continue kissing..]
-finally reach to her nipples, a quick kiss/maybe a small bite, then move
elsewhere, keeping your rhythm and mood to the music/situation. Do not talk..
-Move your lips back to her neck, and carress her breasts and chest gently
with your hands, then move back there to kiss it again, putting your hand
elsewhere on her body.
-Keep kissing her on her neck/lips/breasts/nipples, and your hands wander all
over her body, let one pass over her crotch and see how see reacts (a little
resistance is fine/normal...just ignore it).
-Start to stimulate her crotch with your hand over her pants/skirt.
-Go again with your hand, get inside her pants, and start to stimulate her,
gently/softly
-She should get very very excited at this point if up to now you did it right.
-At that point, pull off her pants (dont ask her, just do it, from the time
you kissed her neck, you should not talk at all, just do, let her mind only
listen to the music, and see you on her, and the candle light).
-Don?t ask to touch her/fuck her, just do, or at most just tell her you want
her.. or "lets feel each other closer more directly"..etc.
-watch her reaction..some resistance is okay, but if she has an angry look on
her face, and is really putting up a fuss, then back up one or two steps on
this list, and then resume going down the list after a couple minutes. Repeat
as necessary. If she really doesn?t like it, she will get away from you (and
if that happens, THROW HER OUT!, you got a FREAK!).
-Also, absolutely ignore anything she says. She will probably say she doesnt
want to fuck you now, and other blah blah. Ignore it absolutely. Watch her
body language only. It won?t lie, but her words probably will. In spite of
what all the femenazi?s say, girls really like to be "taken", and want to
feel they "didn?t have a choice".
-Kiss her crotch, as well as everywhere else, be gentle, learn what she
likes/doesn't like in the way you touch/kiss her...every girl is different
and unique so find out right away what that is.
-Once you know what that is, keep working on her with your hands and lips
until she gets really crazy
-Stimulate her crotch with your fingers, and work her there till she goes
totally nuts, move your lips up to her neck/ear, kiss her, your hands on her
breasts, and put your condom on (which you already had ready nearby).
-Keep going with the kissing on the neck and hands on the breasts/crotch.
-Put your dick in, and drill her till you/she comes. It is easy at this point.

G)Various notes..
-See how good she is at that (though some girls are better the 2nd/3rd time),
so sleep with her a couple more times.
-At that point, you are now ready to decide what kind of relationship who
want with her, if any, and you can develop that too
-Warning, DO NOT try and develop a relationship with a girl before you
sleep with her. Because, then your head gets all messed up, when they decide
they like that relationship they already got, and don't want to risk ruining
it by having sex.
-SO you get the sex first, so there is no risk of that problem, and THEN (AND
ONLY THEN), do you think about a relationship or not, with that woman.

Anyways, if you are very good in bed (which you will be if you always pay
attention to the girl real carefully and what she really wants (and not what
she says she wants, which is almost always the opposite), the girl will
always want the relationship, so then you get to choose whether you want a
relationship with her, or not, or if you just want to see her a few more
times for sex and then get rid of her if she is not your type;or you dont
get along with her personally...

-You see girls want a dream. You give her that dream, and let her live
it...and she is yours...

---and that, is how its done..

Some important rules:

THE GUY HAS TO DO EVERYTHING!! HE HAS TO MAKE ALL THE MOVES!!!
THE WOMAN (unless she is ugly, or desperate) RARELY WILL!! SO EVEN IF SHE
LIKES YOU, AND YOU DONT MAKE MOVES, SHE WILL THINK YOU ARE NOT
INTERESTED..AND GET RID OF YOU!!!!, OR WORSE, JUST WANT TO BE YOUR
FRIEND!!! AND YOU BECOME HER DOORMAT!!!
THEN SHE WILL THEN NEVER BECOME YOUR GIRLFRIEND...EVER!!!!
CHICKS WANT TO BE MADE TO FEEL THAT THEY "DIDNT HAVE A CHOICE"..
(ie. so they dont have to worry about the "slut" factor...)

AND THE OTHER IS:
FIRST SEX, AND THEN (MAYBE) A RELATIONSHIP...and never NEVER NEVER
EVER THE OTHER WAY AROUND!! IF YOU EVER GIVE A GIRL A
RELATIONSHIP/FRIENDSHIP BEFORE YOU MAKE HER GIVE YOU SEX, YOU
WILL NEVER GET ANY!!! SHE WILL JUST WALK ALL OVER YOU!! TELLING
YOU ABOUT ALL HER PROBLEMS, NOT WANTING TO RUIN HER
"RELATIONSHIP" WITH YOU BY HAVING SEX!!! .. WHILE SHE MAKES
SOMEONE ELSE HER REAL BOYFRIEND!!! WELL...SCREW THAT...!!

If you are too concerned about girl's feelings, and never think about your own you won?t
be successful with women, and they will always just want to be your friend. Rather, you
have to worry about what you want, and if they can live with that, they can go out with
you.

Learn, enjoy, and give happiness to a lady out there!

Peace;

Maniac High (email address is at my website below)

http://www.pickupguide.com
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> Wow!  Good thing I did those sit-ups this morning.... so, let's test
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> fuzzy feelings.

It's important that your in the right mood for this, so if you aren't
ready to  think about the pleasures of another, you might not want read
this carefully and really try to  feel what I'm talking about.

As you read this, hopefully you  feel warm and comfortable.  You're
wearing a soft sweater that shows your curves but leaves just enough to
the imagination.
I like to start by getting really close, maybe sitting on a sofa.  I
would look at your face, your eyes, the curve of you jaw and the line
of your neck, the fullness of your lips.  I want to pull myself close
to your face so you can feel my breath on your cheak and then on your
neck.  I can faintly smell your perfume.  I wrap my hand gently but
firmly around the nape of your neck.  Your skin is so beautiful and I
wisper into your ear how much it turns me on to look at it and feel it.
Then I begin to kiss your neck very gently.  You let me know you like
it by tilting your head and letting out a long breath.  The excitement
of touching eachother and learning each other for the first time is
making me so turned on.
I can feel you arm under my shoulders, exploring my back muscles and it
makes me feel like  you want me.  We both feel very warm and close, and
you find yourselve almost nervous about how right it feels and how
comfortable you are.  Yet there is still the excitement of the unknown.
Slowly I move your hair out of the way as I kiss the nape of your
neck.  It feels good.  We are both breathing heavier now.  I stop, and
pull my head away to look at how pretty you are again.  I have a big
smile on my face, and it's clear that I am very happy.  I tell you
about how much your eyes make me want you, want to hold you, want to
feel you.  I pull your head to my chest and you tell me  I smell good.
You notice how firmly I pull you torwards me as Kiss you on the lips.
We fit together perfectly and as we share each others lips, our mouths
open more and more.  After a few minutes of sweet surender, playfully
our tongues touch.  Lightly and gingerly.  We are getting to know each
other.
We are pressed closely together and I can feel your breasts firmly
against my body.  In my mind I imagine them naked against my skin.  My
grip on you tighens as I think more and more about it and you can feel
my hand moving and squeezing all over your back and your side.  It's
firm, hard and passionate.  I notice your hands have become more
adventurous as well.  One is still grabing my arm and the is around by
lower back, but your grip and movements are much more powerful.  You
are pulling me on top of you.
As you lean to side we kiss, and I gently lower you to lie down on the
sofa.  You are suprised at how easily I support you as your back comes
to a rest on the cushion.
My right leg crosses over your thigh as our lips press together.  My
kissing has become firmer and I'm kissing you all over, but I always
return to your lips.  Our tongue intertwine and we know exactly what
the other likes and what the other wants.  I am amazed how perfectly we
mesh and I can tell you feel perfectly relaxed with me, as if we were
made specifically for this particular moment.  I kiss your neck and
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along your jaw.  As you notice how wonderful that feels you become more
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get which makes you even hotter.
I slide down you body and I expose your stomache.  The skin is so soft
and perfect.  I can't help myself from kissing you all over.  I'm
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arms underyou as you lift youself further away the sofa with every deep
breath.  I am forfully pulling your body to my mouth.  As I kiss your
stomache more and more I know what you are thinking about.  Your face
is turned to one side.  You cheak is flushed red.
As I look at you, yOur breasts tower between us.  I now have my hands
under your sweater against the skin. My right hand slides up and down
your side while the left one is still wraped around you, pulling you
close to me.  My fingers massage you knowingly.
I have to feel your breasts.  I slide my hand around an hold you
through your bra.  I gently but firmly squeeze and explore.  I gently
touch the exposed skin above your bra.  Then I return to the full of
your breast.  I can feel your hard nipple through the fabric of your
bra.   I run my fingers over the area of breast that is exposed again
and I slide up to kiss you some more.
Together we sit up straight and you pull your sweater over your head.
I unsnap your bra, gently remove it and expose your breasts.  I pull
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and then you back and you feel the release.  The closeness and
gentleness helps you feel completely relaxed and confident with me.
It's unusual for you to have the man to have so much control, and you
are suprised to find how much you like it.
I kiss all over you naked chest.  Under and around, slowly and gently,
I completly explore your breasts.  Then I circle your right nipple.
The pace pics up as we get more and more turned on.  I have your other
breast in my hand and it's firmness is making me want suck it so much
that I can't decide which one I want to hold more.  I suckle your
nipple and cirle it with my tounge.  My hand is firmly grabing you arm,
and your shoulder.  I wonder what it feels like to have me hold you so
tightly.  Then I suckle harder.  You must be enjoying it but at this
point I'm going so crazy with passion I can barely pay attention to
your heaving and the noises you are making.  I think my passion might
be turning you on as much as anthing else.
I sit up and paractically rip my shirt off.  You smile  at this and
almost giggle.  We stare for split instance at each others bodys.  Me
at your beautiful skin, full breasts and wonderful eyes, you at my
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lines in it as I lower myself onto you so I can feel your breasts
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your skin all over me, wrapped around me.  We are pressed hard.  I kiss
you, I kiss your shoulders I kiss your neck and you ears.
I have slid between your legs and We are grinding firmly and smoothly.
I can feel you pelvis come up to meet me.  It started slowly but now
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