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Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 Seeing if she has BF, and how tight! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. 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Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. 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None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. 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If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? 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Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. 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Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you." Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about "see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and that we needed to go to las vegas together. It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 What is this site? and who is Maniac High? http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. Maniac lives in Tokyo, Japan and likes to pick up chicks. This site is devoted to that endeavor. It you are a "nice guy", and have not been successful with women up to now, then prepare to be awakened, as the solutions await you in these pages! This site, and others like it, listed in the linkspage is mens' answer to "The Rules", and other guy jerk around guides that have been the rage with chicks of the 90s. www.pickupguide.com contains some of Maniac's experiences, as well as the very very best of posts, commentary and guides from Internet USENET's "alt.seduction.fast" newsgroup, which is one of the leaders at the forefront of the seduction and pick up girls technology scene worldwide today. However be warned, this site is not for the faint of heart. Information here nuclear weapons strength.. ruthlessly direct and to the point, because here is where the rubber hits the road, and where the results (ie. lays) count. 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Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

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the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

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Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


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fine ladies.


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my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

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was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

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Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

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hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

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reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

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the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


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just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

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suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


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with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

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names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

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being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

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had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

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HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

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head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


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But it didn't matter cause I was verbally lubed and confident at thispoint, and 1 minute later talked to a hot, very tall, stylish woman, buy soma no prescription,aboutan 8 or 8.5, lets call her HB Physics, who had already seen me passingby already 30 searlier.  I had to backtrack and follow her, which always freaks outJchicks.  I asked if she spoke English, Buy soma no prescription, she gave the immediateignore/freakoutand tried to run into a store, but I lauged and said, "hell, Im justtrying to talk to you, is that so crazy?"  She laughed a little so Ifollowedand asked what she was doing.  She laughed and said "looking at books"and that she wanted to get something to drink.  (She spoke excellentEnglish) I teased her that she couldn't drink the books, she counteredthat maybe you could, buy soma no prescription. Asked her what she does for a living, she saidshe was a consultant but that she had majored in Physics, buy soma no prescription.

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So I wind up sitting across from her, immediately know this is bad,have to get KINO.  So we talk about general stuff, I find out she has amasters in Physics from Waseda.  I really complement her about howsmart she must be and must have studied hard, buy soma no prescription, she says no, I say areyou being modest, she says no, if she was modest she would say she hadto study hard.  We laugh, but now I sort of neg hit her in a way byasking her the quadradic equation, which everyone in physics orengineering knew by heart at one time, but always forgets, buy soma no prescription.  She didtoo.  So I tell her I don't necessarily remember, Buy soma no prescription, but Im sure I canderive it.  I get a paper and pen from the waiter, and start hertrying.  Then I realize I can get closer to her this way as shestruggles a bit, and I say "Im not sure what your doing, let me lookat it from your perspective."  So I move my chair to a 90 degree anglefrom her and look things over and start the NLP hardcore.  Buy soma no prescription, I rest myhand near her and eventually mirror her, then rest my hand on her bareleg (she had the longest legs Ive seen on a Japanese woman) and noresistance, as I have framed this as a "team endeavor", "Its you andme HBPhysics, we are doing this together!"  so she is so into it thatshe finally has the bitch shield down.  I encourage her when she getsthe right terms etc.  I hold her hand I say that Im sending her thethoughts, buy soma no prescription.  Then I relax things after she gets it and sit back and lether bask in some glory.  "Its like when there is something you want toknow or do, you just have to put everything else aside and just do it?cwith me, that's the way it is, and it feels really good when youfinally do it!"Then comes the killer subliminals or overts, depending on how you lookat it.  I showed her shrodingers equation, and she recognized Planck'sconstant but forgot Planks name, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I played the game again.  "Imgoing to send the answer to you through our connection, Im going tohold your hand, and I want you to open yourself up to me as I put it inyou (gesturing to dick, then towards her.)"  You can feel it cumming,cumming into you from me, now its already inside you, you just have tofeel it and when you realize it its going to be really great, buy soma no prescription.  You needa hint.  OK, it's a 5 LETTER WORD STARTING WITH P (DP), and IM PUTTINGIT (DP) IN YOU NOW"  (Found DP is a very easy thing to do naturallywhile seated and having your elbows rested on your legs.  Buy soma no prescription, Granted, thismay have been all too obvious to a native speaker and maybe even toher, but what is she going to say to a guy holding her hand helping herto remember and maybe making her exited with double entendres.

"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

I got into some sex talk, talking about the Japanese habit of declaringopenly ones status as S or M, she said a little of both, buy soma no prescription.  Here I NLP'dwith a double bind and said, "So you could imagine yourself gettingtied up and having a man do whatever he wants to you, or on the otherhand you could see yourself in leather and high heeled boots whipping aman?"  She laughed but said something non-commital.  I said, "yeah,that is a bit crazy, Buy soma no prescription, but what is the craziest thing you have everdone?" Im not sure when I asked this or even the answer right now.  Igot kino with her for a brief moment as I suggested we walk Frenchstyle arm in arm and she asked "oh really, do they do this inFrance?" sure I said, but then tried to hold her hand and she stoppedthat saying that it was too hot and she didn't want to sweat.


We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

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Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! 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[Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. 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First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... 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But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. 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None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? 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Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. I'd tell them to hold a quarter behind their back, mix it around in their hands, bring both out in front of them (you know the drill, the old "pick a hand" deal). The bet was if I could guess the right hand with the money, they'd give me the quarter. If I guessed wrong, I'd give them 3 quarters. I won about 95% of the "bets" I made like this. Trick to winning the bet was when they'd bring the hands back out straight in front of them, their nose would point just "slightly" to the hand with the quarter. You might be able to try it in front of a mirror and see it in yourself, but knowing the trick will probably screw it up for you. Try it on someone else though, almost always works. Anyway, I had thought about using this in a pu a few days ago (came up with a routine for it) and decided what the hell, cant hurt. So here, without further adu, is the amazing instinctive mind reading trick! I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter (when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a little monologue something like this: "You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you." Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about "see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and that we needed to go to las vegas together. It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 What is this site? and who is Maniac High? http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. 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the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

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leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


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had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

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it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

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terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

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what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

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going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

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now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

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names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

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and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

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do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


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This is a report on a fully successful (3 hour) street PU that tookplace in Roppongi near the station exit.  I had just made my firstapproachof the night on HB Gay, at 27 year old tall HB who had a ponytail, zipper black tight pants, Buy soma no prescription, I think I asked her if she spokeEngilsh, "Yeah", "where are you from?" "NY" and "where are you goingnow?"  Got her to stop at the main intersection despite her saying shewas going home.  Somehow she volunteered that she was gay and had neverbeen with a man in 27 years.  I negged her saying that I thought thatwas odd, I would think that men would have hit on her more often and soshe wouldn't be a lesbian, buy soma no prescription.  This worked to keep up the conversation.

I asked all about what her reasons were, saying things like, "so what, buy soma no prescription,has a man never approached you before in the street like this and said,hey lets get together?"  She said "well of course" but that she wasn'tgoing to go with me and I say "who said anything about that.  Im justtalking to you seeing what its like to be a gay girl around a town ofmen" Then she mentions that she had thought of trying a man before"marrying" her gf.  I said she should go to Vermont, blah blah, andsaid things like, Buy soma no prescription, "of course you will want a really good man", blahblah,then the talk turned to her trying me as her first, tried to workit to go with her home but she changed venue and said that if I reallywanted to "know her" I would have to come to her Gas Panic B-day thenext day.  Buy soma no prescription, I told her no way I was busy, she insisted, I again said no,we got into deadlock, she left in a taxi and will never see me again.


But it didn't matter cause I was verbally lubed and confident at thispoint, and 1 minute later talked to a hot, very tall, stylish woman, buy soma no prescription,aboutan 8 or 8.5, lets call her HB Physics, who had already seen me passingby already 30 searlier.  I had to backtrack and follow her, which always freaks outJchicks.  I asked if she spoke English, Buy soma no prescription, she gave the immediateignore/freakoutand tried to run into a store, but I lauged and said, "hell, Im justtrying to talk to you, is that so crazy?"  She laughed a little so Ifollowedand asked what she was doing.  She laughed and said "looking at books"and that she wanted to get something to drink.  (She spoke excellentEnglish) I teased her that she couldn't drink the books, she counteredthat maybe you could, buy soma no prescription. Asked her what she does for a living, she saidshe was a consultant but that she had majored in Physics, buy soma no prescription.

This playedperfectly into my hands.  I said, "Oh, so you know Maxwells equationsthen?"  I think she was surprised at my response, caught off guard andshe said "yes, and the wave function?c etc."  So I said, Buy soma no prescription, "But canyou write down Maxwells equations?"  I think she replied withsomething like, "probably not anymore, but can YOU?"  to which I saidyes, and that we should go get that drink and I would show her.  So weleave, walk for about 5 minutes away from the crowds to a restaurantfor a drink, I think she means coffee, so we pass Gusto and I say

here's a restaurant she says no, buy soma no prescription, lets go further, we come to the place shehad in mind, an outdoor caf&eacute; like place (met a cool dude namedBobbythere, could maybe meet him in Tachikawa and do PU's on HB's whilethey sell clothes.) On the way there I had her laughing a lot, takingabout how that made me feel good, but does she laugh with everyone?cyes.  Buy soma no prescription, OK, not phased, try anchoring but too aggressive, put my handaround her waist, big time rejection there "Please don't touch melike that".  Buy soma no prescription, I don't apologize, simply say "OK" and keep talkingwalking.

So I wind up sitting across from her, immediately know this is bad,have to get KINO.  So we talk about general stuff, I find out she has amasters in Physics from Waseda.  I really complement her about howsmart she must be and must have studied hard, buy soma no prescription, she says no, I say areyou being modest, she says no, if she was modest she would say she hadto study hard.  We laugh, but now I sort of neg hit her in a way byasking her the quadradic equation, which everyone in physics orengineering knew by heart at one time, but always forgets, buy soma no prescription.  She didtoo.  So I tell her I don't necessarily remember, Buy soma no prescription, but Im sure I canderive it.  I get a paper and pen from the waiter, and start hertrying.  Then I realize I can get closer to her this way as shestruggles a bit, and I say "Im not sure what your doing, let me lookat it from your perspective."  So I move my chair to a 90 degree anglefrom her and look things over and start the NLP hardcore.  Buy soma no prescription, I rest myhand near her and eventually mirror her, then rest my hand on her bareleg (she had the longest legs Ive seen on a Japanese woman) and noresistance, as I have framed this as a "team endeavor", "Its you andme HBPhysics, we are doing this together!"  so she is so into it thatshe finally has the bitch shield down.  I encourage her when she getsthe right terms etc.  I hold her hand I say that Im sending her thethoughts, buy soma no prescription.  Then I relax things after she gets it and sit back and lether bask in some glory.  "Its like when there is something you want toknow or do, you just have to put everything else aside and just do it?cwith me, that's the way it is, and it feels really good when youfinally do it!"Then comes the killer subliminals or overts, depending on how you lookat it.  I showed her shrodingers equation, and she recognized Planck'sconstant but forgot Planks name, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I played the game again.  "Imgoing to send the answer to you through our connection, Im going tohold your hand, and I want you to open yourself up to me as I put it inyou (gesturing to dick, then towards her.)"  You can feel it cumming,cumming into you from me, now its already inside you, you just have tofeel it and when you realize it its going to be really great, buy soma no prescription.  You needa hint.  OK, it's a 5 LETTER WORD STARTING WITH P (DP), and IM PUTTINGIT (DP) IN YOU NOW"  (Found DP is a very easy thing to do naturallywhile seated and having your elbows rested on your legs.  Buy soma no prescription, Granted, thismay have been all too obvious to a native speaker and maybe even toher, but what is she going to say to a guy holding her hand helping herto remember and maybe making her exited with double entendres.

"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

I got into some sex talk, talking about the Japanese habit of declaringopenly ones status as S or M, she said a little of both, buy soma no prescription.  Here I NLP'dwith a double bind and said, "So you could imagine yourself gettingtied up and having a man do whatever he wants to you, or on the otherhand you could see yourself in leather and high heeled boots whipping aman?"  She laughed but said something non-commital.  I said, "yeah,that is a bit crazy, Buy soma no prescription, but what is the craziest thing you have everdone?" Im not sure when I asked this or even the answer right now.  Igot kino with her for a brief moment as I suggested we walk Frenchstyle arm in arm and she asked "oh really, do they do this inFrance?" sure I said, but then tried to hold her hand and she stoppedthat saying that it was too hot and she didn't want to sweat.


We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

results.


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Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! 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[Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. 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Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060Interesting story on social proof!n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... 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From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. 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Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. 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But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. 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None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? [wall = pride, and also how you get past obstacles] -you continue walking, and you see a house [kind of house you dream to have later in life] -you see a key on the ground, you go to the house, does the key open the door? [if yes, means you can get married] -you go in the house (if you were able to open with the key), and on the first floor you see a table and chairs, how many chairs are there? [means how many people in your future family] -now you go outside, and see to one direction a dense dark forest, and the other way, a less dense/brighter wooded area. Which way do you go? (dark forest=expect something, but unknown, take a chance) (bright wooded area=easygoing style/way) -as you walk you then see a lake nearby. How big is it, and how deep is it? (big=size of your heart, depth=depth of your heart) THE END This game could be lethal for chicks who want to get married or something like that. Make sure you answer the right answers when you tell her "what your answers were" after you finish her turn! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/feed/ 0 Game: The ‘quarter’ game http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Cainshome introduces a PU game: the 'quarter' game! From cainshome@hotmail.com Fri Dec 1 23:22:06 2000 Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Fun little mindreading trick/PU game.... Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 06:42:13 GMT I was picking up a petite 8.5-9 (HB-Pixie) tonight (might post the lay report some other time). Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. I'd tell them to hold a quarter behind their back, mix it around in their hands, bring both out in front of them (you know the drill, the old "pick a hand" deal). The bet was if I could guess the right hand with the money, they'd give me the quarter. If I guessed wrong, I'd give them 3 quarters. I won about 95% of the "bets" I made like this. Trick to winning the bet was when they'd bring the hands back out straight in front of them, their nose would point just "slightly" to the hand with the quarter. You might be able to try it in front of a mirror and see it in yourself, but knowing the trick will probably screw it up for you. Try it on someone else though, almost always works. Anyway, I had thought about using this in a pu a few days ago (came up with a routine for it) and decided what the hell, cant hurt. So here, without further adu, is the amazing instinctive mind reading trick! I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter (when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a little monologue something like this: "You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you." Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about "see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and that we needed to go to las vegas together. It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 What is this site? and who is Maniac High? http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. 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night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

suit guy talking to them, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Buy cheap Flagyl no rx, Picture Lucy Liu in a light blue tight fitting sequined cocktail

dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

wearing a g-string. Damn, I can barely keep writing just remembering how hot she was.


Needless to say I wanted her immediately, but didn't break in right away, buy Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I wanted her to

take in my confident manner first, and I also needed to contain my desire and composure a

bit. I instead walked directly past them onto the dance floor. After only 10 seconds of

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from the HBLucyLiu.  Where can i find Flagyl online, The suit guy was gone by this time (I also just knew he was going to

crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

quick decision), I just went in to talk to her cold, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She answered whatever I said in

English, buy Flagyl in canada, and I said ?eOh, good, you speak English" in a tone that suggested that was a

good thing for her, and then immediately gave her kino on her bare arm.  Buy Flagyl from mexico, She then looked at

my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

opportunity).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, So we have got good mutual kino and rapport at this point, all is going

well.


She asked me what I do for a living and I replied, order Flagyl no prescription, she asked if I make good money, I said

"good enough". She asked if I had been to Korea before, etc.  Where can i buy Flagyl online, I got her teaching me some

Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

liked it buy joked that I was a pervert.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I responded with the David X line "Well, yes,

but I'm not sure what kind of pervert. You will just have to find out later." I said

this with a bit of a devilish smile for effect, and she liked it.  Online buying Flagyl, By this point Jay had already led his chick out of the place and I was looking at doing

the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

pattern about favorite actor and ideal man. Her favorite actor was Tom Cruise so I asked

what it was about him that she liked, buy Flagyl without a prescription. She couldn't really answer to my satisfaction so I

asked her then what are the qualities of her ideal man, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She said "I have to be able to

talk with him naturally, we have to click. And I notice his style first." Well, I was

dressed pretty stylish and we were talking really well, Order Flagyl from mexican pharmacy, so I figured I would pace and

lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

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will go up there in awhile." But she declined, saying "No, Flagyl price, me and my friend have to go

after this.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, We just came to drink tonight and have fun." I just smiled and said something

like, "well, that's OK by me" in a tone that sort of hinted she was the one missing out

and that I wouldn't care. I just took it as a speed bump, I knew I still had time to turn

it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so

that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

enthusiastic about the idea. "Ok, now I am going to pull my hand away, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Wait, I think

there are more in there, so let me get them all." Then I take my hand away and say " And

now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I

do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


-TokyoPUA
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Hey Maniac,


Im glad to hear you are working on a street PU framework.  Im anxiousto see the final result.  Id like to help out with this but am a bittoo busy right now to come up with anything good.  Still, I know youare good at distilling the essentials from lay reports, Buy soma no prescription, etc.  So Ilooked back on some of my street PU journals, buy soma no prescription.  Unfortunately I donthave time to journal all of them, but as you know, when I do, they allhave the kind of detail you always say is missing from most posts.

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This is a report on a fully successful (3 hour) street PU that tookplace in Roppongi near the station exit.  I had just made my firstapproachof the night on HB Gay, at 27 year old tall HB who had a ponytail, zipper black tight pants, Buy soma no prescription, I think I asked her if she spokeEngilsh, "Yeah", "where are you from?" "NY" and "where are you goingnow?"  Got her to stop at the main intersection despite her saying shewas going home.  Somehow she volunteered that she was gay and had neverbeen with a man in 27 years.  I negged her saying that I thought thatwas odd, I would think that men would have hit on her more often and soshe wouldn't be a lesbian, buy soma no prescription.  This worked to keep up the conversation.

I asked all about what her reasons were, saying things like, "so what, buy soma no prescription,has a man never approached you before in the street like this and said,hey lets get together?"  She said "well of course" but that she wasn'tgoing to go with me and I say "who said anything about that.  Im justtalking to you seeing what its like to be a gay girl around a town ofmen" Then she mentions that she had thought of trying a man before"marrying" her gf.  I said she should go to Vermont, blah blah, andsaid things like, Buy soma no prescription, "of course you will want a really good man", blahblah,then the talk turned to her trying me as her first, tried to workit to go with her home but she changed venue and said that if I reallywanted to "know her" I would have to come to her Gas Panic B-day thenext day.  Buy soma no prescription, I told her no way I was busy, she insisted, I again said no,we got into deadlock, she left in a taxi and will never see me again.


But it didn't matter cause I was verbally lubed and confident at thispoint, and 1 minute later talked to a hot, very tall, stylish woman, buy soma no prescription,aboutan 8 or 8.5, lets call her HB Physics, who had already seen me passingby already 30 searlier.  I had to backtrack and follow her, which always freaks outJchicks.  I asked if she spoke English, Buy soma no prescription, she gave the immediateignore/freakoutand tried to run into a store, but I lauged and said, "hell, Im justtrying to talk to you, is that so crazy?"  She laughed a little so Ifollowedand asked what she was doing.  She laughed and said "looking at books"and that she wanted to get something to drink.  (She spoke excellentEnglish) I teased her that she couldn't drink the books, she counteredthat maybe you could, buy soma no prescription. Asked her what she does for a living, she saidshe was a consultant but that she had majored in Physics, buy soma no prescription.

This playedperfectly into my hands.  I said, "Oh, so you know Maxwells equationsthen?"  I think she was surprised at my response, caught off guard andshe said "yes, and the wave function?c etc."  So I said, Buy soma no prescription, "But canyou write down Maxwells equations?"  I think she replied withsomething like, "probably not anymore, but can YOU?"  to which I saidyes, and that we should go get that drink and I would show her.  So weleave, walk for about 5 minutes away from the crowds to a restaurantfor a drink, I think she means coffee, so we pass Gusto and I say

here's a restaurant she says no, buy soma no prescription, lets go further, we come to the place shehad in mind, an outdoor caf&eacute; like place (met a cool dude namedBobbythere, could maybe meet him in Tachikawa and do PU's on HB's whilethey sell clothes.) On the way there I had her laughing a lot, takingabout how that made me feel good, but does she laugh with everyone?cyes.  Buy soma no prescription, OK, not phased, try anchoring but too aggressive, put my handaround her waist, big time rejection there "Please don't touch melike that".  Buy soma no prescription, I don't apologize, simply say "OK" and keep talkingwalking.

So I wind up sitting across from her, immediately know this is bad,have to get KINO.  So we talk about general stuff, I find out she has amasters in Physics from Waseda.  I really complement her about howsmart she must be and must have studied hard, buy soma no prescription, she says no, I say areyou being modest, she says no, if she was modest she would say she hadto study hard.  We laugh, but now I sort of neg hit her in a way byasking her the quadradic equation, which everyone in physics orengineering knew by heart at one time, but always forgets, buy soma no prescription.  She didtoo.  So I tell her I don't necessarily remember, Buy soma no prescription, but Im sure I canderive it.  I get a paper and pen from the waiter, and start hertrying.  Then I realize I can get closer to her this way as shestruggles a bit, and I say "Im not sure what your doing, let me lookat it from your perspective."  So I move my chair to a 90 degree anglefrom her and look things over and start the NLP hardcore.  Buy soma no prescription, I rest myhand near her and eventually mirror her, then rest my hand on her bareleg (she had the longest legs Ive seen on a Japanese woman) and noresistance, as I have framed this as a "team endeavor", "Its you andme HBPhysics, we are doing this together!"  so she is so into it thatshe finally has the bitch shield down.  I encourage her when she getsthe right terms etc.  I hold her hand I say that Im sending her thethoughts, buy soma no prescription.  Then I relax things after she gets it and sit back and lether bask in some glory.  "Its like when there is something you want toknow or do, you just have to put everything else aside and just do it?cwith me, that's the way it is, and it feels really good when youfinally do it!"Then comes the killer subliminals or overts, depending on how you lookat it.  I showed her shrodingers equation, and she recognized Planck'sconstant but forgot Planks name, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I played the game again.  "Imgoing to send the answer to you through our connection, Im going tohold your hand, and I want you to open yourself up to me as I put it inyou (gesturing to dick, then towards her.)"  You can feel it cumming,cumming into you from me, now its already inside you, you just have tofeel it and when you realize it its going to be really great, buy soma no prescription.  You needa hint.  OK, it's a 5 LETTER WORD STARTING WITH P (DP), and IM PUTTINGIT (DP) IN YOU NOW"  (Found DP is a very easy thing to do naturallywhile seated and having your elbows rested on your legs.  Buy soma no prescription, Granted, thismay have been all too obvious to a native speaker and maybe even toher, but what is she going to say to a guy holding her hand helping herto remember and maybe making her exited with double entendres.

"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

I got into some sex talk, talking about the Japanese habit of declaringopenly ones status as S or M, she said a little of both, buy soma no prescription.  Here I NLP'dwith a double bind and said, "So you could imagine yourself gettingtied up and having a man do whatever he wants to you, or on the otherhand you could see yourself in leather and high heeled boots whipping aman?"  She laughed but said something non-commital.  I said, "yeah,that is a bit crazy, Buy soma no prescription, but what is the craziest thing you have everdone?" Im not sure when I asked this or even the answer right now.  Igot kino with her for a brief moment as I suggested we walk Frenchstyle arm in arm and she asked "oh really, do they do this inFrance?" sure I said, but then tried to hold her hand and she stoppedthat saying that it was too hot and she didn't want to sweat.


We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

results.


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Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited relationship right now. I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody when I want. [Maniac lays down the line.... again...] It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand that fact, and accept it. [Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. [Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...] When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all ways). That is what I want to focus on.. Maniac =-=-=-=-= That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh yeah, right, sure she will.. And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend.. The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a- vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, (heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060Seeing if she has BF, and how tight!n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... I just don't operate like that anymore :) for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her that you CAN NOT get from another chick. that doesn't happen to me because girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me. she can HEAR them asking me to call them back. she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone like me. as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport... however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH". I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. Old Dog > Maniac High > http://www.pickupguide.com > >]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » answer http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Interesting story on social proof! http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 Seeing if she has BF, and how tight! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. Old Dog > Maniac High > http://www.pickupguide.com > >]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/feed/ 0 Setting up the Kiss Close http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/ http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A way to set up the kiss close From: erosla77@aol.com (ErosLA77) Ross Jeffries Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Date: 26 Dec 2000 19:23:44 GMT Subject: Re: What if... >Subject: Re: What if... >From: eclipse19@my-deja.com >Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2000 12:04 AM >Message-id: <929jdt$u6t@nnrp1.deja.com> > >In article <9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com>, > charnel1278@my-deja.com wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say >that >> when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless >> you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? [wall = pride, and also how you get past obstacles] -you continue walking, and you see a house [kind of house you dream to have later in life] -you see a key on the ground, you go to the house, does the key open the door? [if yes, means you can get married] -you go in the house (if you were able to open with the key), and on the first floor you see a table and chairs, how many chairs are there? [means how many people in your future family] -now you go outside, and see to one direction a dense dark forest, and the other way, a less dense/brighter wooded area. Which way do you go? (dark forest=expect something, but unknown, take a chance) (bright wooded area=easygoing style/way) -as you walk you then see a lake nearby. How big is it, and how deep is it? (big=size of your heart, depth=depth of your heart) THE END This game could be lethal for chicks who want to get married or something like that. Make sure you answer the right answers when you tell her "what your answers were" after you finish her turn! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/feed/ 0 Game: The ‘quarter’ game http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Cainshome introduces a PU game: the 'quarter' game! From cainshome@hotmail.com Fri Dec 1 23:22:06 2000 Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Fun little mindreading trick/PU game.... Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 06:42:13 GMT I was picking up a petite 8.5-9 (HB-Pixie) tonight (might post the lay report some other time). Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. I'd tell them to hold a quarter behind their back, mix it around in their hands, bring both out in front of them (you know the drill, the old "pick a hand" deal). The bet was if I could guess the right hand with the money, they'd give me the quarter. If I guessed wrong, I'd give them 3 quarters. I won about 95% of the "bets" I made like this. Trick to winning the bet was when they'd bring the hands back out straight in front of them, their nose would point just "slightly" to the hand with the quarter. You might be able to try it in front of a mirror and see it in yourself, but knowing the trick will probably screw it up for you. Try it on someone else though, almost always works. Anyway, I had thought about using this in a pu a few days ago (came up with a routine for it) and decided what the hell, cant hurt. So here, without further adu, is the amazing instinctive mind reading trick! I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter (when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a little monologue something like this: "You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you." Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about "see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and that we needed to go to las vegas together. It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 What is this site? and who is Maniac High? http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. 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Topic:      Korean double LR/Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)From: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 02:50 AM


Formhandle/TokyoPUA Asian Lay Reports & Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)


So this is part II to the Korea Lay Report that Formhandle wrote. Its my perspective

on the seduction that I did in Korea at the same bar where Jay seduced his chick.  Flagyl over the counter, Most of the time we were entirely focused only on our own women (which divided their

attention very well), so there isn't much comment on what Formhandle's stuff. Besides,

he already wrote the most detailed lay report known to PUA's on that, so no more

information is necessary from me on that.


As usual, the format is in the "Lay Tutorial" format that I first created with my HB

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Keys to the lay:


Physical:-I was well dressed, in black pants and a short sleeve tan collared shirt, thin material,

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from women when dressed well.

-She knew I was staying at the same hotel (it is a nice hotel, and this signals that I am

available).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, -I had done pushups to pump up immediately before going down to the bar. This gave 3

advantages: 1.) I looked more muscular than I am and she happened to be an aerobics

instructor who likes men who exercise 2.) it got my blood pumping so that I thought faster

3.) it released endorphins that made me feel more confident and thus act more confident.

This is like the physical part of "state control", Flagyl from canadian pharmacy.


Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

attracted to a man and chooses to have sex with a him to an interview, and then progressed

the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male


Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

suit guy talking to them, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Buy cheap Flagyl no rx, Picture Lucy Liu in a light blue tight fitting sequined cocktail

dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

wearing a g-string. Damn, I can barely keep writing just remembering how hot she was.


Needless to say I wanted her immediately, but didn't break in right away, buy Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I wanted her to

take in my confident manner first, and I also needed to contain my desire and composure a

bit. I instead walked directly past them onto the dance floor. After only 10 seconds of

waiting and checking out the scene I led us back to the bar, got my beer, then got good EC

from the HBLucyLiu.  Where can i find Flagyl online, The suit guy was gone by this time (I also just knew he was going to

crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

quick decision), I just went in to talk to her cold, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She answered whatever I said in

English, buy Flagyl in canada, and I said ?eOh, good, you speak English" in a tone that suggested that was a

good thing for her, and then immediately gave her kino on her bare arm.  Buy Flagyl from mexico, She then looked at

my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

opportunity).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, So we have got good mutual kino and rapport at this point, all is going

well.


She asked me what I do for a living and I replied, order Flagyl no prescription, she asked if I make good money, I said

"good enough". She asked if I had been to Korea before, etc.  Where can i buy Flagyl online, I got her teaching me some

Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

liked it buy joked that I was a pervert.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I responded with the David X line "Well, yes,

but I'm not sure what kind of pervert. You will just have to find out later." I said

this with a bit of a devilish smile for effect, and she liked it.  Online buying Flagyl, By this point Jay had already led his chick out of the place and I was looking at doing

the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

pattern about favorite actor and ideal man. Her favorite actor was Tom Cruise so I asked

what it was about him that she liked, buy Flagyl without a prescription. She couldn't really answer to my satisfaction so I

asked her then what are the qualities of her ideal man, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She said "I have to be able to

talk with him naturally, we have to click. And I notice his style first." Well, I was

dressed pretty stylish and we were talking really well, Order Flagyl from mexican pharmacy, so I figured I would pace and

lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

turn to leave, so I tried a trial close. "There is a great view of Seoul from my room. We

will go up there in awhile." But she declined, saying "No, Flagyl price, me and my friend have to go

after this.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, We just came to drink tonight and have fun." I just smiled and said something

like, "well, that's OK by me" in a tone that sort of hinted she was the one missing out

and that I wouldn't care. I just took it as a speed bump, I knew I still had time to turn

it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so

that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

enthusiastic about the idea. "Ok, now I am going to pull my hand away, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Wait, I think

there are more in there, so let me get them all." Then I take my hand away and say " And

now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I

do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


-TokyoPUA
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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-follows-hb-physics-and-converts-to-a-same-night-lay/feed/ 0 Handling Chick Bullshit – Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC) From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000 From: "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Subject: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited relationship right now. I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody when I want. [Maniac lays down the line.... again...] It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand that fact, and accept it. [Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. [Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...] When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all ways). That is what I want to focus on.. Maniac =-=-=-=-= That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh yeah, right, sure she will.. And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend.. The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a- vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, (heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060Setting up the Kiss Closen5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... I just don't operate like that anymore :) for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her that you CAN NOT get from another chick. that doesn't happen to me because girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me. she can HEAR them asking me to call them back. she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone like me. as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport... however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH". I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare! http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/ http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A way to set up the kiss close From: erosla77@aol.com (ErosLA77) Ross Jeffries Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Date: 26 Dec 2000 19:23:44 GMT Subject: Re: What if... >Subject: Re: What if... >From: eclipse19@my-deja.com >Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2000 12:04 AM >Message-id: <929jdt$u6t$1@nnrp1.deja.com> > >In article <9299s4$o03$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > charnel1278@my-deja.com wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say >that >> when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless >> you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » answer http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Interesting story on social proof! http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 Seeing if she has BF, and how tight! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. Old Dog > Maniac High > http://www.pickupguide.com > >]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/feed/ 0 Setting up the Kiss Close http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/ http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A way to set up the kiss close From: erosla77@aol.com (ErosLA77) Ross Jeffries Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Date: 26 Dec 2000 19:23:44 GMT Subject: Re: What if... >Subject: Re: What if... >From: eclipse19@my-deja.com >Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2000 12:04 AM >Message-id: <929jdt$u6t@nnrp1.deja.com> > >In article <9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com>, > charnel1278@my-deja.com wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say >that >> when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless >> you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? 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Topic:      Korean double LR/Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)From: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 02:50 AM


Formhandle/TokyoPUA Asian Lay Reports & Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)


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attention very well), so there isn't much comment on what Formhandle's stuff. Besides,

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information is necessary from me on that.


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Keys to the lay:


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-She knew I was staying at the same hotel (it is a nice hotel, and this signals that I am

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3.) it released endorphins that made me feel more confident and thus act more confident.

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Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

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the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male


Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

suit guy talking to them, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Buy cheap Flagyl no rx, Picture Lucy Liu in a light blue tight fitting sequined cocktail

dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

wearing a g-string. Damn, I can barely keep writing just remembering how hot she was.


Needless to say I wanted her immediately, but didn't break in right away, buy Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I wanted her to

take in my confident manner first, and I also needed to contain my desire and composure a

bit. I instead walked directly past them onto the dance floor. After only 10 seconds of

waiting and checking out the scene I led us back to the bar, got my beer, then got good EC

from the HBLucyLiu.  Where can i find Flagyl online, The suit guy was gone by this time (I also just knew he was going to

crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

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English, buy Flagyl in canada, and I said ?eOh, good, you speak English" in a tone that suggested that was a

good thing for her, and then immediately gave her kino on her bare arm.  Buy Flagyl from mexico, She then looked at

my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

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well.


She asked me what I do for a living and I replied, order Flagyl no prescription, she asked if I make good money, I said

"good enough". She asked if I had been to Korea before, etc.  Where can i buy Flagyl online, I got her teaching me some

Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

liked it buy joked that I was a pervert.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I responded with the David X line "Well, yes,

but I'm not sure what kind of pervert. You will just have to find out later." I said

this with a bit of a devilish smile for effect, and she liked it.  Online buying Flagyl, By this point Jay had already led his chick out of the place and I was looking at doing

the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

pattern about favorite actor and ideal man. Her favorite actor was Tom Cruise so I asked

what it was about him that she liked, buy Flagyl without a prescription. She couldn't really answer to my satisfaction so I

asked her then what are the qualities of her ideal man, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She said "I have to be able to

talk with him naturally, we have to click. And I notice his style first." Well, I was

dressed pretty stylish and we were talking really well, Order Flagyl from mexican pharmacy, so I figured I would pace and

lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

turn to leave, so I tried a trial close. "There is a great view of Seoul from my room. We

will go up there in awhile." But she declined, saying "No, Flagyl price, me and my friend have to go

after this.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, We just came to drink tonight and have fun." I just smiled and said something

like, "well, that's OK by me" in a tone that sort of hinted she was the one missing out

and that I wouldn't care. I just took it as a speed bump, I knew I still had time to turn

it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so

that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

enthusiastic about the idea. "Ok, now I am going to pull my hand away, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Wait, I think

there are more in there, so let me get them all." Then I take my hand away and say " And

now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I

do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


-TokyoPUA
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"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

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We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-follows-hb-physics-and-converts-to-a-same-night-lay/feed/ 0 Handling Chick Bullshit – Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC) From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000 From: "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Subject: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited relationship right now. I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody when I want. [Maniac lays down the line.... again...] It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand that fact, and accept it. [Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. [Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...] When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all ways). That is what I want to focus on.. Maniac =-=-=-=-= That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh yeah, right, sure she will.. And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend.. The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a- vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, (heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060Game: The Wall and the Forestn5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... I just don't operate like that anymore :) for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her that you CAN NOT get from another chick. that doesn't happen to me because girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me. she can HEAR them asking me to call them back. she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone like me. as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport... however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH". I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare! http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. 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(dark forest=expect something, but unknown, take a chance) (bright wooded area=easygoing style/way) -as you walk you then see a lake nearby. How big is it, and how deep is it? (big=size of your heart, depth=depth of your heart) THE END This game could be lethal for chicks who want to get married or something like that. Make sure you answer the right answers when you tell her "what your answers were" after you finish her turn! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » answer http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Interesting story on social proof! http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 Seeing if she has BF, and how tight! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. 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None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? 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Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. 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I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter (when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a little monologue something like this: "You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you." Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about "see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and that we needed to go to las vegas together. It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 What is this site? and who is Maniac High? http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. 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Topic:      Korean double LR/Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)From: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 02:50 AM


Formhandle/TokyoPUA Asian Lay Reports & Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)


So this is part II to the Korea Lay Report that Formhandle wrote. Its my perspective

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attention very well), so there isn't much comment on what Formhandle's stuff. Besides,

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information is necessary from me on that.


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-She knew I was staying at the same hotel (it is a nice hotel, and this signals that I am

available).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, -I had done pushups to pump up immediately before going down to the bar. This gave 3

advantages: 1.) I looked more muscular than I am and she happened to be an aerobics

instructor who likes men who exercise 2.) it got my blood pumping so that I thought faster

3.) it released endorphins that made me feel more confident and thus act more confident.

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Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

attracted to a man and chooses to have sex with a him to an interview, and then progressed

the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male


Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

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dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

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crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

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my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

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well.


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Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

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the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

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lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

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will go up there in awhile." But she declined, saying "No, Flagyl price, me and my friend have to go

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"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

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suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

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that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

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now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

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do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


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Hey Maniac,


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"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

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We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-follows-hb-physics-and-converts-to-a-same-night-lay/feed/ 0 Handling Chick Bullshit – Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC) From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000 From: "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Subject: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited relationship right now. I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody when I want. [Maniac lays down the line.... again...] It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand that fact, and accept it. [Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. [Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...] When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all ways). That is what I want to focus on.. Maniac =-=-=-=-= That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh yeah, right, sure she will.. And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend.. The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a- vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, (heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060Game: The ‘quarter’ gamen5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... 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I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare! http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Cainshome introduces a PU game: the 'quarter' game! 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At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. I'd tell them to hold a quarter behind their back, mix it around in their hands, bring both out in front of them (you know the drill, the old "pick a hand" deal). The bet was if I could guess the right hand with the money, they'd give me the quarter. If I guessed wrong, I'd give them 3 quarters. I won about 95% of the "bets" I made like this. Trick to winning the bet was when they'd bring the hands back out straight in front of them, their nose would point just "slightly" to the hand with the quarter. You might be able to try it in front of a mirror and see it in yourself, but knowing the trick will probably screw it up for you. Try it on someone else though, almost always works. 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If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you." Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about "see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and that we needed to go to las vegas together. It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » answer http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Interesting story on social proof! http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. 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"But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. 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Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 Seeing if she has BF, and how tight! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. 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None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? 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Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. I'd tell them to hold a quarter behind their back, mix it around in their hands, bring both out in front of them (you know the drill, the old "pick a hand" deal). The bet was if I could guess the right hand with the money, they'd give me the quarter. If I guessed wrong, I'd give them 3 quarters. I won about 95% of the "bets" I made like this. Trick to winning the bet was when they'd bring the hands back out straight in front of them, their nose would point just "slightly" to the hand with the quarter. You might be able to try it in front of a mirror and see it in yourself, but knowing the trick will probably screw it up for you. Try it on someone else though, almost always works. Anyway, I had thought about using this in a pu a few days ago (came up with a routine for it) and decided what the hell, cant hurt. So here, without further adu, is the amazing instinctive mind reading trick! I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter (when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a little monologue something like this: "You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you." Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about "see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and that we needed to go to las vegas together. It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 What is this site? and who is Maniac High? http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. Maniac lives in Tokyo, Japan and likes to pick up chicks. This site is devoted to that endeavor. It you are a "nice guy", and have not been successful with women up to now, then prepare to be awakened, as the solutions await you in these pages! This site, and others like it, listed in the linkspage is mens' answer to "The Rules", and other guy jerk around guides that have been the rage with chicks of the 90s. www.pickupguide.com contains some of Maniac's experiences, as well as the very very best of posts, commentary and guides from Internet USENET's "alt.seduction.fast" newsgroup, which is one of the leaders at the forefront of the seduction and pick up girls technology scene worldwide today. However be warned, this site is not for the faint of heart. Information here nuclear weapons strength.. ruthlessly direct and to the point, because here is where the rubber hits the road, and where the results (ie. lays) count. 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the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

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simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


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watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

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lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

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values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

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and that I wouldn't care. I just took it as a speed bump, I knew I still had time to turn

it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so

that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

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now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I

do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


-TokyoPUA
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Hey Maniac,


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This is a report on a fully successful (3 hour) street PU that tookplace in Roppongi near the station exit.  I had just made my firstapproachof the night on HB Gay, at 27 year old tall HB who had a ponytail, zipper black tight pants, Buy soma no prescription, I think I asked her if she spokeEngilsh, "Yeah", "where are you from?" "NY" and "where are you goingnow?"  Got her to stop at the main intersection despite her saying shewas going home.  Somehow she volunteered that she was gay and had neverbeen with a man in 27 years.  I negged her saying that I thought thatwas odd, I would think that men would have hit on her more often and soshe wouldn't be a lesbian, buy soma no prescription.  This worked to keep up the conversation.

I asked all about what her reasons were, saying things like, "so what, buy soma no prescription,has a man never approached you before in the street like this and said,hey lets get together?"  She said "well of course" but that she wasn'tgoing to go with me and I say "who said anything about that.  Im justtalking to you seeing what its like to be a gay girl around a town ofmen" Then she mentions that she had thought of trying a man before"marrying" her gf.  I said she should go to Vermont, blah blah, andsaid things like, Buy soma no prescription, "of course you will want a really good man", blahblah,then the talk turned to her trying me as her first, tried to workit to go with her home but she changed venue and said that if I reallywanted to "know her" I would have to come to her Gas Panic B-day thenext day.  Buy soma no prescription, I told her no way I was busy, she insisted, I again said no,we got into deadlock, she left in a taxi and will never see me again.


But it didn't matter cause I was verbally lubed and confident at thispoint, and 1 minute later talked to a hot, very tall, stylish woman, buy soma no prescription,aboutan 8 or 8.5, lets call her HB Physics, who had already seen me passingby already 30 searlier.  I had to backtrack and follow her, which always freaks outJchicks.  I asked if she spoke English, Buy soma no prescription, she gave the immediateignore/freakoutand tried to run into a store, but I lauged and said, "hell, Im justtrying to talk to you, is that so crazy?"  She laughed a little so Ifollowedand asked what she was doing.  She laughed and said "looking at books"and that she wanted to get something to drink.  (She spoke excellentEnglish) I teased her that she couldn't drink the books, she counteredthat maybe you could, buy soma no prescription. Asked her what she does for a living, she saidshe was a consultant but that she had majored in Physics, buy soma no prescription.

This playedperfectly into my hands.  I said, "Oh, so you know Maxwells equationsthen?"  I think she was surprised at my response, caught off guard andshe said "yes, and the wave function?c etc."  So I said, Buy soma no prescription, "But canyou write down Maxwells equations?"  I think she replied withsomething like, "probably not anymore, but can YOU?"  to which I saidyes, and that we should go get that drink and I would show her.  So weleave, walk for about 5 minutes away from the crowds to a restaurantfor a drink, I think she means coffee, so we pass Gusto and I say

here's a restaurant she says no, buy soma no prescription, lets go further, we come to the place shehad in mind, an outdoor caf&eacute; like place (met a cool dude namedBobbythere, could maybe meet him in Tachikawa and do PU's on HB's whilethey sell clothes.) On the way there I had her laughing a lot, takingabout how that made me feel good, but does she laugh with everyone?cyes.  Buy soma no prescription, OK, not phased, try anchoring but too aggressive, put my handaround her waist, big time rejection there "Please don't touch melike that".  Buy soma no prescription, I don't apologize, simply say "OK" and keep talkingwalking.

So I wind up sitting across from her, immediately know this is bad,have to get KINO.  So we talk about general stuff, I find out she has amasters in Physics from Waseda.  I really complement her about howsmart she must be and must have studied hard, buy soma no prescription, she says no, I say areyou being modest, she says no, if she was modest she would say she hadto study hard.  We laugh, but now I sort of neg hit her in a way byasking her the quadradic equation, which everyone in physics orengineering knew by heart at one time, but always forgets, buy soma no prescription.  She didtoo.  So I tell her I don't necessarily remember, Buy soma no prescription, but Im sure I canderive it.  I get a paper and pen from the waiter, and start hertrying.  Then I realize I can get closer to her this way as shestruggles a bit, and I say "Im not sure what your doing, let me lookat it from your perspective."  So I move my chair to a 90 degree anglefrom her and look things over and start the NLP hardcore.  Buy soma no prescription, I rest myhand near her and eventually mirror her, then rest my hand on her bareleg (she had the longest legs Ive seen on a Japanese woman) and noresistance, as I have framed this as a "team endeavor", "Its you andme HBPhysics, we are doing this together!"  so she is so into it thatshe finally has the bitch shield down.  I encourage her when she getsthe right terms etc.  I hold her hand I say that Im sending her thethoughts, buy soma no prescription.  Then I relax things after she gets it and sit back and lether bask in some glory.  "Its like when there is something you want toknow or do, you just have to put everything else aside and just do it?cwith me, that's the way it is, and it feels really good when youfinally do it!"Then comes the killer subliminals or overts, depending on how you lookat it.  I showed her shrodingers equation, and she recognized Planck'sconstant but forgot Planks name, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I played the game again.  "Imgoing to send the answer to you through our connection, Im going tohold your hand, and I want you to open yourself up to me as I put it inyou (gesturing to dick, then towards her.)"  You can feel it cumming,cumming into you from me, now its already inside you, you just have tofeel it and when you realize it its going to be really great, buy soma no prescription.  You needa hint.  OK, it's a 5 LETTER WORD STARTING WITH P (DP), and IM PUTTINGIT (DP) IN YOU NOW"  (Found DP is a very easy thing to do naturallywhile seated and having your elbows rested on your legs.  Buy soma no prescription, Granted, thismay have been all too obvious to a native speaker and maybe even toher, but what is she going to say to a guy holding her hand helping herto remember and maybe making her exited with double entendres.

"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

I got into some sex talk, talking about the Japanese habit of declaringopenly ones status as S or M, she said a little of both, buy soma no prescription.  Here I NLP'dwith a double bind and said, "So you could imagine yourself gettingtied up and having a man do whatever he wants to you, or on the otherhand you could see yourself in leather and high heeled boots whipping aman?"  She laughed but said something non-commital.  I said, "yeah,that is a bit crazy, Buy soma no prescription, but what is the craziest thing you have everdone?" Im not sure when I asked this or even the answer right now.  Igot kino with her for a brief moment as I suggested we walk Frenchstyle arm in arm and she asked "oh really, do they do this inFrance?" sure I said, but then tried to hold her hand and she stoppedthat saying that it was too hot and she didn't want to sweat.


We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

results.


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Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. 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[Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. 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Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060What is this site? and who is Maniac High?n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... 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I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare! http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. Maniac lives in Tokyo, Japan and likes to pick up chicks. This site is devoted to that endeavor. It you are a "nice guy", and have not been successful with women up to now, then prepare to be awakened, as the solutions await you in these pages! This site, and others like it, listed in the linkspage is mens' answer to "The Rules", and other guy jerk around guides that have been the rage with chicks of the 90s. www.pickupguide.com contains some of Maniac's experiences, as well as the very very best of posts, commentary and guides from Internet USENET's "alt.seduction.fast" newsgroup, which is one of the leaders at the forefront of the seduction and pick up girls technology scene worldwide today. However be warned, this site is not for the faint of heart. Information here nuclear weapons strength.. ruthlessly direct and to the point, because here is where the rubber hits the road, and where the results (ie. lays) count. You will likely be shocked by some of the techniques you learn about here, but they DO work and they WILL get results. You will learn how to find out what chicks REALLY want (rather than what they say they want), how to be that man they want, and how to make them dying for you to fuck them. Sound incredible? Well it is, but it is a fact, as you will soon see, so read on.. and learn how to APPLY in REAL LIFE the tools that successful pickup artists use to seduce chicks and lay them. As for the operation of this site.. Everything here is free. I am not selling anything, so don't go looking for that here and don't go writing to me asking to put phone sex ad banners on my webpage..I'm not interested.. This site has only real information that is USEFUL, and WORKS. So don't expect flashy graphics, Java, and all that stuff... its not here...just information! Updates are always at this website: http://www.pickupguide.com For more information, read USENET alt.seduction.fast, Maniac hangs out there. To read the newsgroup, if you dont have USENET, go visit www.remarq.com and go to newsgroup 'alt.seduction.fast' there.. Re: Why I made this site.. Its because there are lots of purported "professionals" and "experts" out there trying to provide/sell "advice" that is often useless, and many times even damaging. Well, fuck that! The good stuff is here, and its free! And then there are also the chicks out there, that like to take advantage of guys, their money, and give nothing in return! Well, now they have met their match! Gentlemen read on, and arm yourselves appropriately! And finally, there are the wonderful women who want to be seduced, but can't find a man who is able to show them that pleasure! This site is especially for them. Because now YOU can be that man! Tons of useful stuff is gathered here So put it to use! Learn, enjoy, and give happiness to a lady out there! Maniac [This archive contains postings which have been gathered from public Usenet. The contents of this archive or any search result are the opinions of the poster. We do not endorse the content of any posting - all posts appearing here were collected from PUBLIC forums.? 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Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 Seeing if she has BF, and how tight! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. 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None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? [wall = pride, and also how you get past obstacles] -you continue walking, and you see a house [kind of house you dream to have later in life] -you see a key on the ground, you go to the house, does the key open the door? [if yes, means you can get married] -you go in the house (if you were able to open with the key), and on the first floor you see a table and chairs, how many chairs are there? [means how many people in your future family] -now you go outside, and see to one direction a dense dark forest, and the other way, a less dense/brighter wooded area. Which way do you go? (dark forest=expect something, but unknown, take a chance) (bright wooded area=easygoing style/way) -as you walk you then see a lake nearby. How big is it, and how deep is it? (big=size of your heart, depth=depth of your heart) THE END This game could be lethal for chicks who want to get married or something like that. Make sure you answer the right answers when you tell her "what your answers were" after you finish her turn! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/feed/ 0 Game: The ‘quarter’ game http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Cainshome introduces a PU game: the 'quarter' game! From cainshome@hotmail.com Fri Dec 1 23:22:06 2000 Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Fun little mindreading trick/PU game.... Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 06:42:13 GMT I was picking up a petite 8.5-9 (HB-Pixie) tonight (might post the lay report some other time). Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. I'd tell them to hold a quarter behind their back, mix it around in their hands, bring both out in front of them (you know the drill, the old "pick a hand" deal). The bet was if I could guess the right hand with the money, they'd give me the quarter. If I guessed wrong, I'd give them 3 quarters. I won about 95% of the "bets" I made like this. Trick to winning the bet was when they'd bring the hands back out straight in front of them, their nose would point just "slightly" to the hand with the quarter. You might be able to try it in front of a mirror and see it in yourself, but knowing the trick will probably screw it up for you. Try it on someone else though, almost always works. Anyway, I had thought about using this in a pu a few days ago (came up with a routine for it) and decided what the hell, cant hurt. So here, without further adu, is the amazing instinctive mind reading trick! I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter (when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a little monologue something like this: "You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". Hands behind my back, pretended to mix, brought both hands out. Now I said something like "ok, now relax, see the problem but consider it deeply, let your mind blank with the only focus being your answer, let your spontaneous side drive you." Course, you have a quarter in both hands, so it's not too hard for her to pick the "right hand". Once she's done that say something about "see, it's easy to get what you really want, if you act on your instincts". While saying this, take the quarter in your open hand (that she chose), put it in your other hand, and put both quarters back in whatever pant pocket your closest to. I also made a joke about how she was a quick learner, and that we needed to go to las vegas together. It worked out pretty well, set the stage for some more stories and the questions game, plus I think improved rapport alot (kino got considerably better after this point). Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 What is this site? and who is Maniac High? http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. Maniac lives in Tokyo, Japan and likes to pick up chicks. This site is devoted to that endeavor. It you are a "nice guy", and have not been successful with women up to now, then prepare to be awakened, as the solutions await you in these pages! This site, and others like it, listed in the linkspage is mens' answer to "The Rules", and other guy jerk around guides that have been the rage with chicks of the 90s. www.pickupguide.com contains some of Maniac's experiences, as well as the very very best of posts, commentary and guides from Internet USENET's "alt.seduction.fast" newsgroup, which is one of the leaders at the forefront of the seduction and pick up girls technology scene worldwide today. However be warned, this site is not for the faint of heart. Information here nuclear weapons strength.. ruthlessly direct and to the point, because here is where the rubber hits the road, and where the results (ie. lays) count. You will likely be shocked by some of the techniques you learn about here, but they DO work and they WILL get results. You will learn how to find out what chicks REALLY want (rather than what they say they want), how to be that man they want, and how to make them dying for you to fuck them. Sound incredible? Well it is, but it is a fact, as you will soon see, so read on.. and learn how to APPLY in REAL LIFE the tools that successful pickup artists use to seduce chicks and lay them. As for the operation of this site.. Everything here is free. I am not selling anything, so don't go looking for that here and don't go writing to me asking to put phone sex ad banners on my webpage..I'm not interested.. This site has only real information that is USEFUL, and WORKS. So don't expect flashy graphics, Java, and all that stuff... its not here...just information! 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Learn, enjoy, and give happiness to a lady out there! Maniac [This archive contains postings which have been gathered from public Usenet. The contents of this archive or any search result are the opinions of the poster. We do not endorse the content of any posting - all posts appearing here were collected from PUBLIC forums.? The posts from any particular person is the responsibility of that person ONLY and IS NOT endorsed or sanctioned by the operators of this site.]]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/feed/ 0 Buy Flagyl No Prescription http://www.pickupguide.com/and-tpua-bags-her-babe-friend-too/ http://www.pickupguide.com/and-tpua-bags-her-babe-friend-too/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/and-tpua-bags-her-babe-friend-too/ 
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Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

attracted to a man and chooses to have sex with a him to an interview, and then progressed

the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male


Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

suit guy talking to them, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Buy cheap Flagyl no rx, Picture Lucy Liu in a light blue tight fitting sequined cocktail

dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

wearing a g-string. Damn, I can barely keep writing just remembering how hot she was.


Needless to say I wanted her immediately, but didn't break in right away, buy Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I wanted her to

take in my confident manner first, and I also needed to contain my desire and composure a

bit. I instead walked directly past them onto the dance floor. After only 10 seconds of

waiting and checking out the scene I led us back to the bar, got my beer, then got good EC

from the HBLucyLiu.  Where can i find Flagyl online, The suit guy was gone by this time (I also just knew he was going to

crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

quick decision), I just went in to talk to her cold, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She answered whatever I said in

English, buy Flagyl in canada, and I said ?eOh, good, you speak English" in a tone that suggested that was a

good thing for her, and then immediately gave her kino on her bare arm.  Buy Flagyl from mexico, She then looked at

my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

opportunity).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, So we have got good mutual kino and rapport at this point, all is going

well.


She asked me what I do for a living and I replied, order Flagyl no prescription, she asked if I make good money, I said

"good enough". She asked if I had been to Korea before, etc.  Where can i buy Flagyl online, I got her teaching me some

Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

liked it buy joked that I was a pervert.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I responded with the David X line "Well, yes,

but I'm not sure what kind of pervert. You will just have to find out later." I said

this with a bit of a devilish smile for effect, and she liked it.  Online buying Flagyl, By this point Jay had already led his chick out of the place and I was looking at doing

the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

pattern about favorite actor and ideal man. Her favorite actor was Tom Cruise so I asked

what it was about him that she liked, buy Flagyl without a prescription. She couldn't really answer to my satisfaction so I

asked her then what are the qualities of her ideal man, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She said "I have to be able to

talk with him naturally, we have to click. And I notice his style first." Well, I was

dressed pretty stylish and we were talking really well, Order Flagyl from mexican pharmacy, so I figured I would pace and

lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

turn to leave, so I tried a trial close. "There is a great view of Seoul from my room. We

will go up there in awhile." But she declined, saying "No, Flagyl price, me and my friend have to go

after this.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, We just came to drink tonight and have fun." I just smiled and said something

like, "well, that's OK by me" in a tone that sort of hinted she was the one missing out

and that I wouldn't care. I just took it as a speed bump, I knew I still had time to turn

it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so

that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

enthusiastic about the idea. "Ok, now I am going to pull my hand away, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Wait, I think

there are more in there, so let me get them all." Then I take my hand away and say " And

now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I

do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


-TokyoPUA
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Hey Maniac,


Im glad to hear you are working on a street PU framework.  Im anxiousto see the final result.  Id like to help out with this but am a bittoo busy right now to come up with anything good.  Still, I know youare good at distilling the essentials from lay reports, Buy soma no prescription, etc.  So Ilooked back on some of my street PU journals, buy soma no prescription.  Unfortunately I donthave time to journal all of them, but as you know, when I do, they allhave the kind of detail you always say is missing from most posts.

Most of the onesIve journaled Ive already posted.  While you have already heard thefollowing PU in person, I never posted it before, buy soma no prescription. So Im posting it nowto ASF with full details.  Buy soma no prescription, Its damn long though.  Hope it helps.


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This is a report on a fully successful (3 hour) street PU that tookplace in Roppongi near the station exit.  I had just made my firstapproachof the night on HB Gay, at 27 year old tall HB who had a ponytail, zipper black tight pants, Buy soma no prescription, I think I asked her if she spokeEngilsh, "Yeah", "where are you from?" "NY" and "where are you goingnow?"  Got her to stop at the main intersection despite her saying shewas going home.  Somehow she volunteered that she was gay and had neverbeen with a man in 27 years.  I negged her saying that I thought thatwas odd, I would think that men would have hit on her more often and soshe wouldn't be a lesbian, buy soma no prescription.  This worked to keep up the conversation.

I asked all about what her reasons were, saying things like, "so what, buy soma no prescription,has a man never approached you before in the street like this and said,hey lets get together?"  She said "well of course" but that she wasn'tgoing to go with me and I say "who said anything about that.  Im justtalking to you seeing what its like to be a gay girl around a town ofmen" Then she mentions that she had thought of trying a man before"marrying" her gf.  I said she should go to Vermont, blah blah, andsaid things like, Buy soma no prescription, "of course you will want a really good man", blahblah,then the talk turned to her trying me as her first, tried to workit to go with her home but she changed venue and said that if I reallywanted to "know her" I would have to come to her Gas Panic B-day thenext day.  Buy soma no prescription, I told her no way I was busy, she insisted, I again said no,we got into deadlock, she left in a taxi and will never see me again.


But it didn't matter cause I was verbally lubed and confident at thispoint, and 1 minute later talked to a hot, very tall, stylish woman, buy soma no prescription,aboutan 8 or 8.5, lets call her HB Physics, who had already seen me passingby already 30 searlier.  I had to backtrack and follow her, which always freaks outJchicks.  I asked if she spoke English, Buy soma no prescription, she gave the immediateignore/freakoutand tried to run into a store, but I lauged and said, "hell, Im justtrying to talk to you, is that so crazy?"  She laughed a little so Ifollowedand asked what she was doing.  She laughed and said "looking at books"and that she wanted to get something to drink.  (She spoke excellentEnglish) I teased her that she couldn't drink the books, she counteredthat maybe you could, buy soma no prescription. Asked her what she does for a living, she saidshe was a consultant but that she had majored in Physics, buy soma no prescription.

This playedperfectly into my hands.  I said, "Oh, so you know Maxwells equationsthen?"  I think she was surprised at my response, caught off guard andshe said "yes, and the wave function?c etc."  So I said, Buy soma no prescription, "But canyou write down Maxwells equations?"  I think she replied withsomething like, "probably not anymore, but can YOU?"  to which I saidyes, and that we should go get that drink and I would show her.  So weleave, walk for about 5 minutes away from the crowds to a restaurantfor a drink, I think she means coffee, so we pass Gusto and I say

here's a restaurant she says no, buy soma no prescription, lets go further, we come to the place shehad in mind, an outdoor caf&eacute; like place (met a cool dude namedBobbythere, could maybe meet him in Tachikawa and do PU's on HB's whilethey sell clothes.) On the way there I had her laughing a lot, takingabout how that made me feel good, but does she laugh with everyone?cyes.  Buy soma no prescription, OK, not phased, try anchoring but too aggressive, put my handaround her waist, big time rejection there "Please don't touch melike that".  Buy soma no prescription, I don't apologize, simply say "OK" and keep talkingwalking.

So I wind up sitting across from her, immediately know this is bad,have to get KINO.  So we talk about general stuff, I find out she has amasters in Physics from Waseda.  I really complement her about howsmart she must be and must have studied hard, buy soma no prescription, she says no, I say areyou being modest, she says no, if she was modest she would say she hadto study hard.  We laugh, but now I sort of neg hit her in a way byasking her the quadradic equation, which everyone in physics orengineering knew by heart at one time, but always forgets, buy soma no prescription.  She didtoo.  So I tell her I don't necessarily remember, Buy soma no prescription, but Im sure I canderive it.  I get a paper and pen from the waiter, and start hertrying.  Then I realize I can get closer to her this way as shestruggles a bit, and I say "Im not sure what your doing, let me lookat it from your perspective."  So I move my chair to a 90 degree anglefrom her and look things over and start the NLP hardcore.  Buy soma no prescription, I rest myhand near her and eventually mirror her, then rest my hand on her bareleg (she had the longest legs Ive seen on a Japanese woman) and noresistance, as I have framed this as a "team endeavor", "Its you andme HBPhysics, we are doing this together!"  so she is so into it thatshe finally has the bitch shield down.  I encourage her when she getsthe right terms etc.  I hold her hand I say that Im sending her thethoughts, buy soma no prescription.  Then I relax things after she gets it and sit back and lether bask in some glory.  "Its like when there is something you want toknow or do, you just have to put everything else aside and just do it?cwith me, that's the way it is, and it feels really good when youfinally do it!"Then comes the killer subliminals or overts, depending on how you lookat it.  I showed her shrodingers equation, and she recognized Planck'sconstant but forgot Planks name, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I played the game again.  "Imgoing to send the answer to you through our connection, Im going tohold your hand, and I want you to open yourself up to me as I put it inyou (gesturing to dick, then towards her.)"  You can feel it cumming,cumming into you from me, now its already inside you, you just have tofeel it and when you realize it its going to be really great, buy soma no prescription.  You needa hint.  OK, it's a 5 LETTER WORD STARTING WITH P (DP), and IM PUTTINGIT (DP) IN YOU NOW"  (Found DP is a very easy thing to do naturallywhile seated and having your elbows rested on your legs.  Buy soma no prescription, Granted, thismay have been all too obvious to a native speaker and maybe even toher, but what is she going to say to a guy holding her hand helping herto remember and maybe making her exited with double entendres.

"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

I got into some sex talk, talking about the Japanese habit of declaringopenly ones status as S or M, she said a little of both, buy soma no prescription.  Here I NLP'dwith a double bind and said, "So you could imagine yourself gettingtied up and having a man do whatever he wants to you, or on the otherhand you could see yourself in leather and high heeled boots whipping aman?"  She laughed but said something non-commital.  I said, "yeah,that is a bit crazy, Buy soma no prescription, but what is the craziest thing you have everdone?" Im not sure when I asked this or even the answer right now.  Igot kino with her for a brief moment as I suggested we walk Frenchstyle arm in arm and she asked "oh really, do they do this inFrance?" sure I said, but then tried to hold her hand and she stoppedthat saying that it was too hot and she didn't want to sweat.


We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

results.


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Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited relationship right now. I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody when I want. [Maniac lays down the line.... again...] It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand that fact, and accept it. [Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. [Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...] When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all ways). That is what I want to focus on.. Maniac =-=-=-=-= That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh yeah, right, sure she will.. And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend.. The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a- vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, (heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060Buy Flagyl No Prescriptionn5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... I just don't operate like that anymore :) for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her that you CAN NOT get from another chick. that doesn't happen to me because girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me. she can HEAR them asking me to call them back. she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone like me. as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport... however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH". I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare! http://www.pickupguide.com/and-tpua-bags-her-babe-friend-too/ http://www.pickupguide.com/and-tpua-bags-her-babe-friend-too/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/and-tpua-bags-her-babe-friend-too/ 
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Topic:      Korean double LR/Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)From: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 02:50 AM


Formhandle/TokyoPUA Asian Lay Reports & Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)


So this is part II to the Korea Lay Report that Formhandle wrote. Its my perspective

on the seduction that I did in Korea at the same bar where Jay seduced his chick.  Flagyl over the counter, Most of the time we were entirely focused only on our own women (which divided their

attention very well), so there isn't much comment on what Formhandle's stuff. Besides,

he already wrote the most detailed lay report known to PUA's on that, so no more

information is necessary from me on that.


As usual, the format is in the "Lay Tutorial" format that I first created with my HB

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Keys to the lay:


Physical:-I was well dressed, in black pants and a short sleeve tan collared shirt, thin material,

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from women when dressed well.

-She knew I was staying at the same hotel (it is a nice hotel, and this signals that I am

available).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, -I had done pushups to pump up immediately before going down to the bar. This gave 3

advantages: 1.) I looked more muscular than I am and she happened to be an aerobics

instructor who likes men who exercise 2.) it got my blood pumping so that I thought faster

3.) it released endorphins that made me feel more confident and thus act more confident.

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Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

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the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male


Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

suit guy talking to them, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Buy cheap Flagyl no rx, Picture Lucy Liu in a light blue tight fitting sequined cocktail

dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

wearing a g-string. Damn, I can barely keep writing just remembering how hot she was.


Needless to say I wanted her immediately, but didn't break in right away, buy Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I wanted her to

take in my confident manner first, and I also needed to contain my desire and composure a

bit. I instead walked directly past them onto the dance floor. After only 10 seconds of

waiting and checking out the scene I led us back to the bar, got my beer, then got good EC

from the HBLucyLiu.  Where can i find Flagyl online, The suit guy was gone by this time (I also just knew he was going to

crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

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English, buy Flagyl in canada, and I said ?eOh, good, you speak English" in a tone that suggested that was a

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my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

opportunity).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, So we have got good mutual kino and rapport at this point, all is going

well.


She asked me what I do for a living and I replied, order Flagyl no prescription, she asked if I make good money, I said

"good enough". She asked if I had been to Korea before, etc.  Where can i buy Flagyl online, I got her teaching me some

Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

liked it buy joked that I was a pervert.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I responded with the David X line "Well, yes,

but I'm not sure what kind of pervert. You will just have to find out later." I said

this with a bit of a devilish smile for effect, and she liked it.  Online buying Flagyl, By this point Jay had already led his chick out of the place and I was looking at doing

the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

pattern about favorite actor and ideal man. Her favorite actor was Tom Cruise so I asked

what it was about him that she liked, buy Flagyl without a prescription. She couldn't really answer to my satisfaction so I

asked her then what are the qualities of her ideal man, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She said "I have to be able to

talk with him naturally, we have to click. And I notice his style first." Well, I was

dressed pretty stylish and we were talking really well, Order Flagyl from mexican pharmacy, so I figured I would pace and

lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

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will go up there in awhile." But she declined, saying "No, Flagyl price, me and my friend have to go

after this.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, We just came to drink tonight and have fun." I just smiled and said something

like, "well, that's OK by me" in a tone that sort of hinted she was the one missing out

and that I wouldn't care. I just took it as a speed bump, I knew I still had time to turn

it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so

that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

enthusiastic about the idea. "Ok, now I am going to pull my hand away, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Wait, I think

there are more in there, so let me get them all." Then I take my hand away and say " And

now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I

do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


-TokyoPUA
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Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. 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Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. 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None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? 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Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. 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I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter (when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a little monologue something like this: "You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". 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Not really the key to the whole pickup (or why I was back at her place getting the lay a bit earlier tonight), but it was a fun little game, and a great visual representation of the "Take the chance, you'll never get it again" (aka, maniac's if you dont put out, you'll lose me) mentality. And besides, it fit in pretty well with alot of the material I was using (went beautifully with the questions game too, right up to the "you want to kiss me, dont you" line, lol). Thoughts? Other little tricks/games? Live, learn, crash and burn, Treeland_AZ]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/feed/ 0 What is this site? and who is Maniac High? http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/what-is-this-site-and-who-is-maniac-high/ http://www.pickupguide.com This is Maniac High's website. 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Topic:      Korean double LR/Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)From: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 02:50 AM


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So this is part II to the Korea Lay Report that Formhandle wrote. Its my perspective

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attention very well), so there isn't much comment on what Formhandle's stuff. Besides,

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information is necessary from me on that.


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-She knew I was staying at the same hotel (it is a nice hotel, and this signals that I am

available).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, -I had done pushups to pump up immediately before going down to the bar. This gave 3

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instructor who likes men who exercise 2.) it got my blood pumping so that I thought faster

3.) it released endorphins that made me feel more confident and thus act more confident.

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Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

attracted to a man and chooses to have sex with a him to an interview, and then progressed

the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male


Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

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dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

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crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

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my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

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well.


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Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

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the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

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lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

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"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

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suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

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that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

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now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

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Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

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As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


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I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


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Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

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Tokyopua


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"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

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We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-follows-hb-physics-and-converts-to-a-same-night-lay/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » answer http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Interesting story on social proof! http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 Seeing if she has BF, and how tight! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. But, IME, you can do a lot better than just asking what her living arrangements are. I have a question that has never failed to elicit the key information re: whether she has a BF but, critically for deciding whether to continue the sarge, what her attitude toward the relationship, if any, is. It's based on the fact that all women know, on a day to day basis, how they feel about the state of a relationship that they're in. And since the presupp appeals to their vanity, I've never, in over 20 years, had a woman decline to answer. Here's the qualifying question I ask: "You seem really nice Debbie. I hope that your boyfriend appreciates you". They give four types of answers: 1) She'll beam and say "Oh yes, he's terrific and appreciates me totally". 2) She'll give a hesitating "Yes", but won't elaborate. 3) She'll say "Yeah, I do but NO, the schmuck/jerk/etc. doesn't appreciate me. 4) I don't have a boyfriend. For me, the response to 1) is a "Smart guy. Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. Old Dog > Maniac High > http://www.pickupguide.com > >]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/feed/ 0 Setting up the Kiss Close http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/ http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com A way to set up the kiss close From: erosla77@aol.com (ErosLA77) Ross Jeffries Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Date: 26 Dec 2000 19:23:44 GMT Subject: Re: What if... >Subject: Re: What if... >From: eclipse19@my-deja.com >Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2000 12:04 AM >Message-id: <929jdt$u6t@nnrp1.deja.com> > >In article <9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com>, > charnel1278@my-deja.com wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say >that >> when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless >> you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? 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Make sure you answer the right answers when you tell her "what your answers were" after you finish her turn! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/feed/ 0 Game: The ‘quarter’ game http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-quarter-game/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Cainshome introduces a PU game: the 'quarter' game! From cainshome@hotmail.com Fri Dec 1 23:22:06 2000 Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Fun little mindreading trick/PU game.... Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 06:42:13 GMT I was picking up a petite 8.5-9 (HB-Pixie) tonight (might post the lay report some other time). Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. 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Topic:      Korean double LR/Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)From: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 02:50 AM


Formhandle/TokyoPUA Asian Lay Reports & Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)


So this is part II to the Korea Lay Report that Formhandle wrote. Its my perspective

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attention very well), so there isn't much comment on what Formhandle's stuff. Besides,

he already wrote the most detailed lay report known to PUA's on that, so no more

information is necessary from me on that.


As usual, the format is in the "Lay Tutorial" format that I first created with my HB

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Keys to the lay:


Physical:-I was well dressed, in black pants and a short sleeve tan collared shirt, thin material,

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from women when dressed well.

-She knew I was staying at the same hotel (it is a nice hotel, and this signals that I am

available).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, -I had done pushups to pump up immediately before going down to the bar. This gave 3

advantages: 1.) I looked more muscular than I am and she happened to be an aerobics

instructor who likes men who exercise 2.) it got my blood pumping so that I thought faster

3.) it released endorphins that made me feel more confident and thus act more confident.

This is like the physical part of "state control", Flagyl from canadian pharmacy.


Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

attracted to a man and chooses to have sex with a him to an interview, and then progressed

the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male


Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

suit guy talking to them, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Buy cheap Flagyl no rx, Picture Lucy Liu in a light blue tight fitting sequined cocktail

dress but slightly more buff and an absolutely perfect ass and you will have a good idea

of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

wearing a g-string. Damn, I can barely keep writing just remembering how hot she was.


Needless to say I wanted her immediately, but didn't break in right away, buy Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I wanted her to

take in my confident manner first, and I also needed to contain my desire and composure a

bit. I instead walked directly past them onto the dance floor. After only 10 seconds of

waiting and checking out the scene I led us back to the bar, got my beer, then got good EC

from the HBLucyLiu.  Where can i find Flagyl online, The suit guy was gone by this time (I also just knew he was going to

crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

quick decision), I just went in to talk to her cold, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She answered whatever I said in

English, buy Flagyl in canada, and I said ?eOh, good, you speak English" in a tone that suggested that was a

good thing for her, and then immediately gave her kino on her bare arm.  Buy Flagyl from mexico, She then looked at

my arms and asked me if I exercise. I hadn't been working out much recently (though I did

my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

opportunity).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, So we have got good mutual kino and rapport at this point, all is going

well.


She asked me what I do for a living and I replied, order Flagyl no prescription, she asked if I make good money, I said

"good enough". She asked if I had been to Korea before, etc.  Where can i buy Flagyl online, I got her teaching me some

Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

liked it buy joked that I was a pervert.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, I responded with the David X line "Well, yes,

but I'm not sure what kind of pervert. You will just have to find out later." I said

this with a bit of a devilish smile for effect, and she liked it.  Online buying Flagyl, By this point Jay had already led his chick out of the place and I was looking at doing

the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

pattern about favorite actor and ideal man. Her favorite actor was Tom Cruise so I asked

what it was about him that she liked, buy Flagyl without a prescription. She couldn't really answer to my satisfaction so I

asked her then what are the qualities of her ideal man, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. She said "I have to be able to

talk with him naturally, we have to click. And I notice his style first." Well, I was

dressed pretty stylish and we were talking really well, Order Flagyl from mexican pharmacy, so I figured I would pace and

lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

turn to leave, so I tried a trial close. "There is a great view of Seoul from my room. We

will go up there in awhile." But she declined, saying "No, Flagyl price, me and my friend have to go

after this.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, We just came to drink tonight and have fun." I just smiled and said something

like, "well, that's OK by me" in a tone that sort of hinted she was the one missing out

and that I wouldn't care. I just took it as a speed bump, I knew I still had time to turn

it around, and that she might just be saying that out of social convention.  Where can i order Flagyl without prescription, I said,

"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

helps dull her "rejection" of my invitation, buy cheapest Flagyl. I want her to be used to following my

suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


So we go out on the terrace, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Its nice out and I comment on the romantic view.  Online buy Flagyl without a prescription, Jay comes by

with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

HB giving input and "ratifying" the process, in order to make it more real for them, Flagyl for sale, so

that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

enthusiastic about the idea. "Ok, now I am going to pull my hand away, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. Wait, I think

there are more in there, so let me get them all." Then I take my hand away and say " And

now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

feeling here in your chest where those needles were." She was definitely intrigued by all

this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

to call DDB (the Doggy Dinner Bowl look).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, Jay and his chick appeared at some point soon after this, and we all talked together for

awhile, Jay's chick drew some stuff, I figured out the meaning of character's in their

names, etc. I was again getting good kino on HBLucyLiu, running my hand up the inside of

her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

where we are going, it just seems like we are heading to the taxi area. But of course Jay

and I have different plans. Jay mentioned he forgot his room key (the obvious implication

being that he and his chick will go back to his room, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I just walk HBLucyLiu past the front

desk where Jay is trying to get his room key, Flagyl samples, and I take her straight to the elevator. I

do this while touching her on the back of her arm just above the elbow. This is where I

had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

(Kino Anchored Motion Induction) and is absolutely lethal.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, For a full explanation see the

HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

extra rating point for being able to stand on one leg while holding the other leg over her

head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


-TokyoPUA
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Im glad to hear you are working on a street PU framework.  Im anxiousto see the final result.  Id like to help out with this but am a bittoo busy right now to come up with anything good.  Still, I know youare good at distilling the essentials from lay reports, Buy soma no prescription, etc.  So Ilooked back on some of my street PU journals, buy soma no prescription.  Unfortunately I donthave time to journal all of them, but as you know, when I do, they allhave the kind of detail you always say is missing from most posts.

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here's a restaurant she says no, buy soma no prescription, lets go further, we come to the place shehad in mind, an outdoor caf&eacute; like place (met a cool dude namedBobbythere, could maybe meet him in Tachikawa and do PU's on HB's whilethey sell clothes.) On the way there I had her laughing a lot, takingabout how that made me feel good, but does she laugh with everyone?cyes.  Buy soma no prescription, OK, not phased, try anchoring but too aggressive, put my handaround her waist, big time rejection there "Please don't touch melike that".  Buy soma no prescription, I don't apologize, simply say "OK" and keep talkingwalking.

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In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

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]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/tpua-follows-hb-physics-and-converts-to-a-same-night-lay/feed/ 0 Handling Chick Bullshit – Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC) From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000 From: "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Subject: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited relationship right now. I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody when I want. [Maniac lays down the line.... again...] It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand that fact, and accept it. [Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. [Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...] When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all ways). That is what I want to focus on.. Maniac =-=-=-=-= That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh yeah, right, sure she will.. And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend.. The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a- vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, (heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060Handling Chick Bullshit – Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous!n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... I just don't operate like that anymore :) for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her that you CAN NOT get from another chick. that doesn't happen to me because girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me. she can HEAR them asking me to call them back. she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone like me. as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport... however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH". I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare! http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Handling Chick Bullshit, Ms. Kinky wants me to be monogamous! (commentary by Maniac and MrSex4uNYC) From maniac_high@yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 08:57:10 2000 From: "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> Subject: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited relationship right now. I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody when I want. [Maniac lays down the line.... again...] It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand that fact, and accept it. [Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. [Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...] When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all ways). That is what I want to focus on.. Maniac =-=-=-=-= That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh yeah, right, sure she will.. And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend.. The moral is, never NEVER underestimate your power vis-a- vis a chick, ESPECIALLY when you are fucking her already,...they are slaves to their emotions about you far more than you are a slave to their cunt. (and if you are seeing many chicks, you are not even a slave to that either). Know where you stand, and what power you HAVE. They will respect you for not taking their bullshit, holding the line on your rules, (heck, HB Ass still sees me even though I threw her out of the house that time at 2am for dropping in on me and another chick unannounced). Holding the line on bullshit will make them respect you, want you even more, in spite of what they may say, they usually will NOT go through on their "threats". Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060$0n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... I just don't operate like that anymore :) for this chick to tell you that SHE is going to walk away from YOU, she had to believe that she had some leverage... SOMETHING that you are getting from her that you CAN NOT get from another chick. that doesn't happen to me because girls call my answering machine WHILE my MLTR is with me. she can HEAR them asking me to call them back. she KNOWS that "the game" is how I live, and she has CHOSEN to get involved mentally, emotionally and PHYSICALLY with someone like me. as of right now, she KNOWS I will choose her over ANY other chick as far as spending quality time because the other girls are just for sport... however, we will see how her tune changes when I find another girl I deem WORTHY of being with me as "MY BITCH". I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Maniac High's Pick Up Girls Guide and Seduction Website! » answer http://www.pickupguide.com Sat, 29 May 2010 07:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 en hourly 1 Interesting story on social proof! http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Interesting story on social proof! From: maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Article on social-proof!] Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:11:04 GMT Got this in my inbox.. was quite interesting so reposting here. Maniac -- Ugly Urges - Why women flock to mediocre men December 13, 2000 By Adam Pasik The Billy Joel Syndrome is one of the great social science mysteries: Why do beautiful women sometimes fall for not-so-good-looking guys? For the answer, says Dr. Lee Alan Dugatkin, look to guppies. Guppies are the first species in which scientists have observed the phenomenon of "mate copying": A female guppy is much more likely to have the hots for a male guppy if other female guppies like him, too. And it seems humans behave in much the same way. Dugatkin conducted a study of 60 men and 74 women who were shown pictures of strangers and asked if they'd like to date them. They were also given information about whether other men and women, respectively, found the strangers attractive. "Unsurprisingly, the male and female subjects both liked attractive people," says Dugatkin, a professor at the University of Louisville. "But females weighed the opinions of other females much more highly than the men did." Women also described the guys they preferred in the pictures as more wealthy, funny and personable - even though they had never met them. "When humans see their peers flock around someone, they may wonder what the fuss is all about," the study says. In other words, Dugatkin says, mate copying "could lead a female to go out with a physically unattractive male because other females said they'd go out with him." After all, he must have something going for him. Right? Crudely put, Dugatkin's research suggests if you go out even once with an exceptionally attractive babe - say, Christie Brinkley, Joel's ex-wife - you may be set for life in the romance department. It's not that women are lemmings when it comes to getting a date. Rather, their behavior is strongly rooted in evolutionary decision-making. "Using other females' information is an expression of women being choosy," Dugatkin says. "From an evolutionary perspective, females should be the choosier sex; they have more to lose. If a female makes a mistake and chooses the wrong mate, she'll be out of commission for nine months. And if one parent leaves, it's almost always the male." So if a woman doesn't have much information to go on when sizing up potential mates, she'll probably prefer the guys that other women want to get busy with. Back to Billy for a minute. Since he and the Uptown Girl divorced, how has he done in the romance department? Pretty well. His current relationship is with local television news anchor Trish Bergin, who would rate pretty high on most men's attractiveness scales. Oh, and by the way: Joel was introduced to Bergin by Bergin's very good friend, Christie Brinkley. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/interesting-story-on-social-proof/feed/ 0 Seeing if she has BF, and how tight! http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/seeing-if-she-has-bf-and-how-tight/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Good way to see if she has a BF, and how she feels about him! From: "Old Dog" <olddog@pontimax.com> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re Maniacs Post on: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:15:42 GMT Subject: Re: Don't ask "Do you have a boyfriend" ? > <See Maniac's original post >. > > > Opinions? > Maniac, In my-pre SS days when my PU was based solely on the sales call model, I almost always qualified the chyck regarding this. 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Enjoy your evening" For 2), and 3) the borefriend destroyer pattern is the next step. For 4), it's usually the "What's important to you in a man?" question. Nowadays, I may not ask the question early on. After establishing rapport, I'll just do some patterning and see how she responds and go with that. I need the pattern language practice anyhow and it's fun. But, in some instances, I'll still put the above question to her (like if her response to the SS tech is weak) since it's proven itself to be so reliable for so long. It's saved me a lot of what would otherwise have been wasted time (not to mention $) over the years. BTW the rate of "false positives" i.e. she answers that she has a BF and a great relationship with him but aint so) seems to be very low. 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None, from what I saw, said what to do when >you >> get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing >> happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the >> evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? >> Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... >> >> Laters. > > the standard (canned) reply to a "no" answer is "YOU really know how >to ruin a moment....your old boyfriends must have hated that about you" >I think i got this off tony or maniac's site, forget which one. I >havent ran into a direct "no" answer myself so i havent field tested >this, but im sure others have. From what i read(or remember anyhow) >this will leave them stunned and they will show less resistance against >another kiss. > > Hmmm......well, I like this "you really know how to ruin a moment" response WITHOUT asking for the kiss first. "Asking" for anything, outside of the presence of fun(as in, on the spur of the moment saying, "Hey...wouldn't it be fun to go to a strip club? Let's go!)) seems pretty pathetic to me. A good one is to notice her giving you that look and then say(and I got this from a student, it is NOT mine). "If ? were to ask you on a scale of one to ten, how good a kisser are you, what would you say?" Listen for her answer, then say, "If you were to kiss me right now, how do you think I'd rate you?" You do this ONLY when you see "the look"....... "let's find out" you say and kiss her. IF she backs away from that, then the "you really know how to ruin a moment" comment works great. Come to think of it, this could really work for a cancellation as well. --- From: "General Snafu" <GeneralSnafu@TheWhitehouse.gov> Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: What if... Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:57:08 GMT If she says no to a kiss, ask for a BJ. If she says no to the BJ, you are SOL for the night. <charnel1278@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:9299s4$o03@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hey all, > > I've checked out a Maniac's, and some others websites and most say that > when you ask "Do you wanna kiss me?", you're guaranteed a kiss, unless > you get a flat out NO. None, from what I saw, said what to do when you > get that NO. Do you continue on the conversation like nothing > happened? Do you come back with a similar question later in the > evening? If so, won't she kinda feel that you're badgering her? > Granted, this won't happen often, but what if?.... > > Laters. > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/setting-up-the-kiss-close/feed/ 0 Game: The Wall and the Forest http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/game-the-wall-and-the-forest/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Maniac introduces "The Wall and the Forest", a PU game. From maniac_high@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Game: The wall and the forest Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:18:24 GMT Another one of those mindfuck games like 4 questions or the cube: "The Wall and the Forest" -You are walking in a field, you see a wall, how high is it, and how do you get by it? 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Note this post is a little haphazard, I haven't had much time to categorize the whole routine (as I said, this whole pickup/lay happened tonight, and I was testing alot of things, just thought I'd get this one nifty point jotted down for everyone). Anyway, at one point a bit into the PU I was performing a maniac- esque "paying attention to a woman and what she wants/knowing what she wants" and how sometimes it's almost like I can almost read their minds. I was doing ok so far on my maniac style plan I wrote up a recently to test his ideas, and I've been trying alot of variation/stories/lines/games mixed in to improve on my own version ;). At this point I decided to use a little "mind reading game/magic routine" I had come up with for my PU's. It was based on a stupid simple trick I learned in my youth. On the lunch playground in about 3'rd grade, I'd make small bets to get quarters off other students. 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I told her I'd give her a simple example and pulled out a quarter (when pulling out the quarter with my left hand, I grabbed two, one between my fingers, the other in the fist of the same hand). I took the quarter from between my fingers into my right hand and gave it to her. Had her do the "pick any hand", told her which hand it was in, and she asked me how I knew. I pointed at my cheek and said "give me a kiss and I'll teach you". She did her little gigle and kissed my cheek. This launched me into a little monologue something like this: "You have to think about the problem on an emotional level, blank out the disruptive thoughts trying to confuse you, and rely on a gut feeling, deep down inside you, that lets you know what to do. If you dont act on your instincts, you will choose wrong and your one chance will be gone." (not worded exactly like this, but similar) At this point I took back the the quarter (in my other hand, no quarter), and said "here, you try". 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Topic:      Korean double LR/Tutorial (Part 2: TokyoPUA)From: Tokyopua tokyopua@yahoo.comDate: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 02:50 AM


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So this is part II to the Korea Lay Report that Formhandle wrote. Its my perspective

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attention very well), so there isn't much comment on what Formhandle's stuff. Besides,

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Physical:-I was well dressed, in black pants and a short sleeve tan collared shirt, thin material,

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-She knew I was staying at the same hotel (it is a nice hotel, and this signals that I am

available).  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, -I had done pushups to pump up immediately before going down to the bar. This gave 3

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instructor who likes men who exercise 2.) it got my blood pumping so that I thought faster

3.) it released endorphins that made me feel more confident and thus act more confident.

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Tactics:-kino and KAMI (see my HB subway LR for details and definition)-favorite movie/ideal man elicitation and link to self-lack of leaning, I was always in control-elicit values and reflect them, anticipated further values, then lead-quick action (entered bar and immediately talked to her after I ordered my drink, Order Flagyl online c.o.d, within

3 minutes or so) shows me to be confident and a man of action-interview analogy (came up with this on the fly, basically compared how she gets

attracted to a man and chooses to have sex with a him to an interview, and then progressed

the places where we were in the imaginary "interview")-hand size comparison routine for kino and sexual innuendo-language exchange (provides ops for humor and kino)-submodality/NLP SS exercise to get her feeling better (she had a bad day that day)-display value (can read Japanese/Chinese characters, fluent in Japanese)-David DeAngelo (DyD) neck smell technique-David X (Montreal PUA of Cliff's list fame) line "Yes, I am a pervert, but you will

have to just find out what kind ;-)"-generally portraying that I am an alpha male


Misc:-dealt with trial close rejection well, Flagyl pharmacy, and double binded her to still have to accept my

leading her-I pumped up my mental state before going out, visualizing and talking about how great the

night was going to be, etc.


Details:


Walked into the hotel bar in Korea with Jay looking fairly stylish in black pants and tan

DK thin shirt. I immediately scoped a 9.5 Korean HB at the bar with a friend and another

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of what I was looking at. Did I mention she had jet black hair down to her waist and was

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crash). I told Jay, "I am going in, if you like the friend you can come in too." Jay was

up for the challenge, so within about 3 minutes of walking in we were talking to these

fine ladies.


I forget the first thing that I said because I had nothing prepared (due to the relatively

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my ritual 50 pushups before heading out of the hotel room to get my blood pumping, so this

probably helped) but answered in the affirmative anyway, and added that one of my hobbies

was Judo. I asked if she worked out and she said she is an aerobics instructor (schwing)

so I had her make a bicep and it was actually damn hard (this was also a great kino

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well.


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Korean which got her writing down things on a pad with the hotel logo (that I conveniently

had in my pocket for such purposes), so that I could get some more good kino and

simultaneously signal my availability since I was staying in the same hotel.


I touched her hands and told her how I liked her soft skin. This also let me do my

standard hand size comparison routine, getting more kino and of course hinting to her (at

least on a subconscious level) that I am "larger" than the average Asian guy, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. I ran my

hand up her bare arm and she smiled and asked if I wanted her to come closer. I pulled her

into me from the waist and when her body was pressing up against mine, I said "Yes" and

smiled, purchase Flagyl online. I could tell she was enjoying the alpha responses I was giving her. Now she was

reciprocating kino very nicely and I tried the David DeAngelo smell her neck/hair thing

(see our reviews of the DyD seminar where I learned this on this site) and she clearly

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the same but I noticed that his chicks stuff was still around, so it was clear we had to

watch it. I kept looking at her friend's cell phone thinking, "Damn CB cell phone!"


At this point I started asking about her favorite movie, which leads to my standard

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lead. "Well, we are talking well together, so that's a good sign. And I can imagine that

you see this stylish guy in front of you and then you talk well and connect, but that is

just like the first part of the interview, purchase Flagyl online no prescription.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, What is it that makes you feel sexually

attracted to a man, I mean the second part of the interview?" She said that she likes a

man with a good body, and specifically a nice ass. I laughed and just repeated all the

values with some self points. At some point during this I am kinoing her softly and she

just spontaneously goes in and gives me a slight kiss on the cheek. I just accept it but

don't reciprocate immediately. Later I go in for the full kiss and we are tongueing down

in the bar. This usually isn't my style, but she was damn super fine and I was feeling

relaxed so I went with it anyway, Buy Flagyl No Prescription.  Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, Finally Jay reappeared after like 10 minutes with his chick. Mine joked that it was our

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"Well, mostly I just want to go somewhere else, so lets go dancing or out onto the

terrace". This puts her into a double bind that means she has to still be lead by me, and

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suggestions regardless, this is part of my concession structure, much like what I used

with HBSubway (see that LR for more details).


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with his woman in a little bit but in perfect wingman form keeps her from trying to sit

with us so that I can work HBLucyLiu alone (and so he can work his chick alone too of

course).


She mentions at some point about having had a sort of bad day so here I do some of Ross's

SS stuff (we had just attended the Montreal Seminar the week before, see our separate

reviews on the site), just patterning on the fly, with some submodality and visualization.

"So where in your body do you feel that bad feeling?" She felt it in her upper chest, order Flagyl.  Buy Flagyl No Prescription, "And as you notice what color it is, can you tell me what color that is. "Grey" I asked

what shape. "Like needles". (I had just learned from Ross that its important to get the

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that is why I keep asking her for these descriptions.)So I said "OK, here is what we are going to do. I am going to take my hand, and put it

right here up against your chest" (this was a nice intimate kino op as well), "and I am

going to just pull those needles out of you, OK?" She smiled and said yes, buy generic Flagyl, appearing very

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now you can notice that as I pull my hand farther away, Where can i buy cheapest Flagyl online, that the feeling goes away. But if

I move it closer it comes back just a little." (This stuff was a direct adaptation of

something Ross was doing in the Montreal seminar.) She nodded her head and I continued,

"So now I am going to ensure that the feeling never comes back, so I am going to take

these needles and put them far away in the dirt here. And now I think I can see a glowing

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this, and said she felt much better, buy Flagyl no prescription. She had that relaxed look on her face that Ross likes

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her thigh where there was a slit in her dress, etc.  Buy no prescription Flagyl online, At around this point the club closes, we all start walking out. Its not clear to them

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had been anchoring her positive responses all night. This technique is what I call KAMI

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HB Subway LR. She looks back to where her friend was with Jay, but no objections of course

since she is feeling good (both about being led and from the KAMI). I kept the kino on in

the elevator but just acted 100% congruent with the situation, like it was the most

natural thing in the world that we should be going to my room. She was mine at this point,

so I was just being thorough. We went to my room and then she took control for awhile.  I

wouldn't have yielded it, but who can say no to a super hot aerobics instructor who wants

to do a striptease for you in the Seoul moonlight, Buy Flagyl No Prescription. J I have to add here that she gets an

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head while I banged her (a new experience even for me), so to me she is like a 10.5. Also,

I elicited on later nights that she may have bi-tendencies, so basically this chick is

just off my scale!!.


Miscellaneous things: (I don't remember when exactly these happened in the flow of the

details above, but they were also good parts of the seduction, so I include them here):


-I displayed value by getting all the meanings of the Chinese characters in her name

right. After I did the same for her friend name she said, "Don't make me like you too

much!"-Ideal vacation routine-At one point she says something about "Women are evil" and I reply with something I

learned from the Moroccan PUA, "yes, sweet evil", she laughed and said she liked that

answer. As Rick H. Says, always have a better answer.


As a recent addendum, I hope to see her again in late October, and will try to set up a 3

some with her and another friend she introduced me to the next night. Details to follow?c

;-)


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But it didn't matter cause I was verbally lubed and confident at thispoint, and 1 minute later talked to a hot, very tall, stylish woman, buy soma no prescription,aboutan 8 or 8.5, lets call her HB Physics, who had already seen me passingby already 30 searlier.  I had to backtrack and follow her, which always freaks outJchicks.  I asked if she spoke English, Buy soma no prescription, she gave the immediateignore/freakoutand tried to run into a store, but I lauged and said, "hell, Im justtrying to talk to you, is that so crazy?"  She laughed a little so Ifollowedand asked what she was doing.  She laughed and said "looking at books"and that she wanted to get something to drink.  (She spoke excellentEnglish) I teased her that she couldn't drink the books, she counteredthat maybe you could, buy soma no prescription. Asked her what she does for a living, she saidshe was a consultant but that she had majored in Physics, buy soma no prescription.

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"it's a 5 letter word that starts with P (DP), I know you can find it(DP)) somewhere IN YOU (PP) if you just open yourself up to me NOWHBPhysics"  Hell, Buy soma no prescription, this was exiting me and I had a big wood, and I knewshe could see it.  I was pretty sure that was blowing herconcentration, but finally she did get the right answer and I gave hera big high 5.  After that I couldnt really keep up that pace so it wasback to some normal conversation and I realized things were cooling andshe even yawned, so I suggested we leave.  The psychology was to do aneg take away, but as we got out of the restaurant I restored the funpotential by suggesting we take a walk and explore the other rim ofRoppongi, buy soma no prescription.

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We walked by a catholic school or something and I hummed the MissionImpossible theme and said lets go in.  Buy soma no prescription, she considered it for a secondbut since I couldn't get the gate open, gave up and started to walkoff.  I feverishly figured out how to get the gate openand grabbed herhand and said "lets just sit down for awhile on the steps."  I thinkI tried to IC pattern her and it wasn't working too well. ( I at onepoint, maybe later in the strory, buy soma no prescription. tried poetry on her, and didn't gettoo far either).  Hmmmm?c. Here I tried some kino and did a good job ofeliciting values, buy soma no prescription.  I asked if she was romantic and she said not really,big surprise here, but this revelation definitely helped me get laid.  Buy soma no prescription, I kept on this track "so what are you looking for in a manthen?"  "Well, just someone who will be there for me when I needhim."  "So I guess that is in part because maybe you are really busy,right?"  Yes.  "I know what you mean, my job sends me all over theworld, and sometimes I just wish I had sort of a friend like that." Gotback to IC a little and said "You know, as I was saying before thereslike 6 billion people in the world, and in your life you maybe meetonly 10000 of them, buy soma no prescription.  And only even remember the names of 1000 of them.  Buy soma no prescription, And some of those are through work or whatever, theres no mystery ormeaning in that.  But what about if you met someone the way you didtonight, who had so much in common and who after only an hour you couldtrust to be sitting alone and holding hands in a place like this??@(great job of pacing the ongoing reality if I do say so myself).  Well,maybe its not a destined romance, but I could easily see us becomingthe kind of friend you seem to need right now.  Buy soma no prescription, I mean, its either thator the meaning of this was for me to make you remember the quadradicequation, and I think you know which of those makes more sense!"  Sheseemed to somewhat agree, but still noncommittal.


I offered a massage, second time, still no immediate acceptance, so Itook intitiative, buy soma no prescription, moved her purse and stradled around her and gave hera good back massage, lots of skin touching as she was wearing astrapless blouse.  I kissed her neck and ears, but she got ticklish, buy soma no prescription.  Ifound out that she said she hadn't been exited by a man in a longtime.  I thought, oh no, lesbian, Buy soma no prescription, but still pursued.  No, not lesbian,but just hadn't been turned on by men a lot recently.  I said maybeshe just needed a new and different strange experience.  Buy soma no prescription, There had beenpasserby that were interfereing with my game, and Id learned from Trainchick that I didn't want to repeat that problem, so I stood us up andtook us more into the shadows and tried to tounge her down, butresistance and we wound up walking out of there.


I walked us still further away from the core in order to get a drinkand reestablish trust, and then we shared the drink.  We walked pastthe same place and I said, buy soma no prescription, wait, I have an Idea, lets go see what wasin back of there.  She came with and I put the moves on again.  Still,she said she just wasn't getting excited.  I said, "when was the lasttime you got exited, tell me about it."  She did, it sounded like a 1week stand, buy soma no prescription.  Buy soma no prescription, So I suggested to her that of course she obviously wantsto be exited and that a similar experience might help.  I joked that Iwould help, it would be fun for me to try, and that if I failed, shecould of course trust me to back down as I had done so many times thatnight already.  But I emphasized confidence that if she would only letme change the venue, I would exite her without a doubt.  "I mean, buy soma no prescription, howam I going to exite you in this damn playground.  Buy soma no prescription, You live close tohere, and if we were at your place I could at least give you a nicemassage and try to get you exited there.  And that would feel good nomatter what the outcome, right?"  She said, "Yes".  So I had pacedthat pretty well and acted like her "Yes" was a "Yes" to going to herapartment, so I said, Buy soma no prescription, "Yes, you are right."  I went over to grab herthings and took her hand "We will get a taxi from the street outhere."  Absolutely no resistance for the rest of the night.  I kinoedslightly in the taxi but not too hard.


In her apartment I eventually gave her the massage, then said that tolead to exitement for both of us I would take off her top and bra, didso, then her skirt, massaged her ass though see through panties (yes!), buy soma no prescription,and finally took those off, tounged her down, and maybe 2 or 3 hoursafter meeting her and getting all this resistance I was inside herrocking her world.  She tried to deny being too exited after it was alldone, but the way she had come told a different story, buy soma no prescription.  I had neverseen a woman come like that, it was like she was imploding, with herarms and legs curling inwards like she was trying to go into a fetalposition.


Anyway, lots of textbook NLP here, but the real key was just beingpersistent and continually altering my approach as I found out moreabout her through value elicitation.  The final approach was not one Iwould usually use, since it seemed really lame (I will try to help youget excited. BS) but somehow it worked so I wont argue with the

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Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! 000428 I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the answer, since I already explained the rules several months ago). Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she would just walk away.. Now the first thing to realize at the above statement is: Ha...like right, bullshit she will! (She just spent the last 30 minutes in wonderland extolling how wonderful I am..). Furthermore, once you are fucking a chick (and fucking her good), it is almost impossible for her to find a way to extricate herself from you, no matter WHAT you are like/how many chicks you see.. Now, of course, I had to straighten out Ms. Kinky right away, as the next time she came over, she'd go hunting for hairs and other shit around the house, and confront me with it...can't have that now.. So I sent her the following Email the next morning. Lets look at it, and then analyze it in "[]" (below): Ms. Kinky:, [I left early last night because I was rather tired..] >Are you all right? Your 'kaze' gets worse? The red wine made you >sick? Did I upset you? No, not at all, but I did want to talk about something however, which was the question you asked last night.. Although I am not seeing anyone now, I do want you to understand something we did talk about sometime ago already.. Which is that I am not ready for a commited relationship right now. I really like dating you, and seeing you when we are able. But, I like my single life, and being able to meet who I want, when I want, without feeling bad, or obligated, or feel that I might be "cheating" on someone if I might decide to meet somebody when I want. [Maniac lays down the line.... again...] It doesnt reflect on you, or that I am not satisfied (I am very satisfied), It is just the stage I am at right now, and the way I want things to be. I know that girls often worry about such things, and want to tie the guy down (in a manner of speaking). But that way is not for me, I like my life the way it is now. So if you continue to see me, I want you to understand that fact, and accept it. [Yep, its special, and think about that!] Focus instead, on the special relationship we have, and the fact that is it only me who understands you in all the ways that you are. -- [Now I cut into her for even THINKING about asking such a question!] As well, I was a bit disappointed you asked such a question, when, and where you did, as it was not the appropriate time or place. What if the answer had been yes? [Hey, its her fault if she ruins her nice evening with such bullshit...] Then you would have ruined your nice birthday mood, that I had arranged, and hurt yourself. As well, then I would have had to deal with a slightly intoxicated, and likely crying unhappy young lady, demonstrating in a public restaurant, (one I like and go to sometimes) which is not a situation I really deserve, or feel I should have to deal with. Please be more thoughtful of such things and possible consequences the next time when you raise such topics.. [Now, to avoid this from ever happening again...] When/if the situation change, I will tell you, you do not need to ask such a question again. Otherwise, assume the above. Rather, I want our times to be special when we are together, and relaxed, and we treat each other in the right way. I understand you, and I know how you like to be treated, (in all ways). That is what I want to focus on.. Maniac =-=-=-=-= That is the note I sent her. Basically, to say that it is bullshit to raise such a thing, I dont want to hear it, this is what the rules are, and don't ask me again. Implicitly, I also call her on her bullshit that she will walk away if I see other chicks... uh yeah, right, sure she will.. And you guessed it, the next day, she writes me asking to meet me, and wants to come over to my place this weekend.. 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Finally, if you treat a chick well, fuck her well (as well as be firm with your rules on her bullshit), she will tolerate everything you do re: seeing other chicks..etc.. they just can't help themselves, as their brains want your attention and approval more than you need to fuck them.. So you win.. Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm) ---- From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Sat Apr 29 08:57:16 2000 From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC) Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: Re: Handling chick bullshit! Ms. Kinky wanted me to be monogamous! Lines: 63 In article <6O_N4.7060Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare!n5.111252@c01read04.service.talkway.com>, "maniac_high" <maniac_high@yahoo.com> writes: >I was out with with Ms. Kinky this week for dinner, and >during the meal, after spending 30 minutes extolling how >wonderful and sexy I am, she popped the question "are you >seeing someone else" (which of course she should KNOW the >answer, since I already explained the rules several months >ago). > >Lets look at what I did to handle this potentially delicate >situation (and avoid a scene in the restaurant), when such >chick logic rears its ugly head. First, since we were in a public >place, and I wanted to avoid crying, and other scenes that >slightly intoxicated chicks do when faced with such things, I >said that I wasn't seeing anyone else... at this moment (strictly >speaking..true, I am with her right now ;-) ). > >Then she went on to say how she didn't care if I was ugly, or >really short..blah blah, but if I was seeing another girl, she >would just walk away.. maniac :) I read the rest of this. the thing to realize is that chicks are ALWAYS angling for the monogamous relationship. it is biological... just like it is biological for men to fuck as many chicks as we can and spread our seed around (well... before condoms that is) that is why even though she KNEW the rules, she broke them and brought up a ridiculous issue :) in another post, I mentioned that I have attained my first MLTR. it is a totally OPEN relationship. she is the one that requested it and I agreed. the reason she requested it is that she KNEW from my "prep" that the ONLY way she was going to get with me was to accept my freedom. she was going to have to be "MINE" to get fucked, but she knew that if she pressed for the monogamy, she would be unceremoniously EJECTED! not because I don't like her... 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I know THIS MUCH though... if she decides to make a power play like THAT... she had BETTER make SURE she is INDISPENSIBLE... or else that might be the last MINUTE I spend with her. one thing you have to realize about girls that you already have is that you had to go through a process to get them... they are THEIR OWN PROOF THAT YOU CAN PULL BITCHES! the same way you got them in, let's say a WEEK.... you can get another girl ONE WEEK after you leave her... to make matters worse, she is not with you around the clock... you might ALREADY have other chicks. besides, whether you ARE seeing other chicks is not as important as whether you WILL see other chicks if the op arises. the question she asked you is structured in the PAST... you are now in the PRESENT eating dinner with her... she needs to know that there is NO TELLING which bitches INCLUDING HER FUCKING MOTHER that you are going to fuck after you drop her off tonight... and she has to LIKE IT TOO! >:)]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-chick-bullshit-ms-kinky-wants-me-to-be-monogamous/feed/ 0 Handling delusional chicks, karatebabe lives a nightmare! http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-delusional-chicks-karatebabe-lives-a-nightmare/ http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-delusional-chicks-karatebabe-lives-a-nightmare/#comments Fri, 14 May 2010 08:00:00 +0000 Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-delusional-chicks-karatebabe-lives-a-nightmare/ From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! Date: 11/12/2000 Author: maniac_high <maniac_high@yahoo.com> << previous in search ? next in search >> Re: Mystery: delusional chicks & sympathy lies! 001112 Mystery wrote in another post this week regarding lying to chicks, about how not to underestimate how delusional a chick is willing to become in order to keep her 'happy' view of the world. He is absolutely right. And this explains how seeming 'jerk' can get away with what seems like such ridiculous shit. Case in point, is where I recently did a fuckup, and then recovered with Karatebabe (see lay report, my page). This is the chick that would go around my place after sex cleaning up her own hairs so that "the other chicks" wouldnt find out about her. Well, one day we are going for coffee, and she asks me if I had been seeing another chick at the time I started dating her. Figuring (incorrectly) from her behavior, that this chick knew totally what the score already was, I said I had been (wrong answer!). She freaked out and went balistic at me. Shit about "how I make her fool, go behind her back..and other shit". In retrospect it was clear though.. she got upset, because something she merely 'suspected' (even though it was fucking obvious as shit, as other chicks stuff was all over the fucking house), now became something 'confirmed', and that shattered her entire world.. I then smartened up and realized what I had just done, and recovered by saying that I dumped her after I first started dating you (Karatebabe), a few weeks later. After that, she settled down (even though every week there was different chick stuff all over the house after that!). She asked me about it, and I said no, there are no chicks.. She said she accepted that, and that her 'nightmare' now was over, and everything was fine again. Later she found some makeup and chick stuff in the bathroom cabinet (another chick must have slipped it there for someone else to find it), so I had to think fast on my feet for that one... So I told her that I have a real dark secret and she might be very disappointed in me (now she is expecting to hear something about a chick).. Then (remembering she likes gays and stuff) I tell her that I like to make believe to dress like a girl (lots of J-guys do it actually, so I know it is not so far fetched here), and I have guy friends that do it with me, and sorry I didnt tell you earlier.. (of course this is TOTALLY false.. Maniac is not even remotely gay, nor a crossdresser or any of that shit)... however.. she ACCEPTED that story, and was relieved (in spite of the fact that I was almost cracking up when I said it, since I was SURE she would call me on my bullshit... but she didnt)! Fuck!, the totally ridiculous things you have to tell a chick... AND! they accept it (as they try to internalize it and believe it at least at some level so that their happy delusional world doesn't come crashing to bits).. Strange, isnt it..! Maniac High http://www.pickupguide.com]]> http://www.pickupguide.com/handling-delusional-chicks-karatebabe-lives-a-nightmare/feed/ 0