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Report by Maniac High; 

From Mon May 24 22:10:23 1999

Subject: Report details; 4 kiss closes, 15 phone numbers!! and a radical 
         PU approach
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 06:44:57 GMT

Tonight’s Outing report - 10..15 phone number, 3 kiss closes (or more?
Can’t remember)

Hi all,

Tonight, something very interesting happened,  I ran into a guy using a
new sarging approach, which I must say is different, but was very
effective. The result, lots of HBs!! Shitloads of kissing (within 2
minutes of meeting the chicks!)! Phone Numbers, and babes from heaven.
I am going to describe what this guy (and I with him as I picked it up
from in during the night) was doing, and then would be very interested
to get your opinions on how/why this was even working,I was shocked!!
Okay, here goes.. Sorry, the writing is a mess, I wanted to get it down
before I forget what he was doing because this was just so
incredible.. wht this PUA was doing, and what I learned from him

Tonight, I went with Taro to an area in Tokyo called Roppongi, a big
nightclub and going out area (ever been to a place, where there are 15
story buildings, and each floor is a different club? Well that is
Roppongi, apparently its got the biggest density of night life (1
square mile by 10 floor buildings all over)  any where in the world.

We arrived at midnight, and went to a dance bar. It was a rather
uneventful evening until about 2am, trying to make eye contact, talking
a bit to ladies, not much luck..loud music and very crowded place.

Then all of the sudden, while I was near the dance floor, I got grabbed
by a guy, to dance with this girl (he was behind her, I was in front),
in that sandwich style. The guy I didn’t know, but as I would find out
later during the evening, he is one of the best and smoothest PUA’s I
have ever seen operate, and he had a very unusual style, which was
extremely effective.  "Smooth" is 26, average looking Japanese guy,
wearing casual clothes, basically nothing that a girl would like on
just looks alone. His secret, was what he said (and didn’t say), and
his very careful use of non verbal communications to slide girls down
the slippery slope of first repecting us, and then liking us. We were
able to pick up HB chicks, get them to like us, and kissing us within 5
minutes flat.

He came alone to bars, not with a wingman, and rather than go up to a
girl, and introduce himself, like most guys do,  but rather, gain
rapport through introducing me (and not himself) to the girls. I would
do likewise (you ever hear the story about the two russian admirals who
started out as soldiers, and always complimented the other in their
absense to superiors till they both got to be admirals..well this is
what he was doing, with anchors, touching, visualization,

he would go up to a group of girls (and he wouldn’t wait for eye
contact or anything, he’d just go up), and introduce me (or which ever
guy he could find around him), to the target chicks, lightly put his
arms around both chicks (not in a imtimidating way, but a freinly way
and say how such a great guy I was to the girls. He would basically get
rapport with the girls saying how great I was (he didn’t even know me
actually), and not paying attention to any particular girl. He’d say
how we should all be friends and get to know each other more, because
(he said), I really like Japanese girls, and I thought they were so
cute (and we only hit on 9s and 10s, so they were all cute). I was just
watching this, and didn’t say much myself, but over the evening with
different chicks, I started to do the same thing with the girls
regarding him (how he is so great guy, we’ve known each other a lot,
as a rapport mechanism). He was very casual, cool, and ironically, made
poor eye contact with everyone, but talked authoritativly as well as
relaxed. He’d never argue with a girl, but just usually repeat
something about how nice it was to be friends, or how great I was, or
how it would be fun to go eat or something, each time we got

He’d then describe states to the girls, but using me in the context,
ie. Hed say that I like her because her hair was so smooth and
gentle..etc..etc, while he would touch her hair. He was also anchoring
without knowning it, because everytime he’d say something to her about
how I was a great guy, or how I thought she was cute (I don’t speak
much Japanese, so he could get away with this), he would tap her gently
on the shoulder, or put his arm around her waist and bring her closer
to me. Then he’d say more how I thought she was nice, and I was a great
guy, and repeat again how we should get to know each other, he’d gently
take both our heads,  and push them together for a kiss, in a joking
way. The girl would usually refuse, and then he’d say how I really
liked her, and gesture the cheek, and she;d kiss me there (or I’d kiss
her there), then he’d get the other to reciprocate the kiss. After
that, he talked about how that was really nice, and how it was good we
were getting on so well, and how it would be good to get a real kiss.
At the same time, he is already gently getting closer to the girl that
HE wanted, his arm around her waist, while doing the whole kiss routine
with me and the other girl. He is laughing, and so is the other
chick(s). Then my chick and we would kiss (he would gently coax both
our heads together), and at the same time, I
have already got my arm around my chick now. We are being light and
funny, being very overt about what we could get the girls to do, and
doing a high 5 (me and Smooth) each time we made progress with a chick
(kiss, cheek, arms..etc). Then we’d talk a little more to the chicks
(nothing heavy topic, no overt NLP, no patterns, just touching lightly,
but as the 20 minutes goes on, holding longer and longer to hands,
neck..etc..etc). He now was doing the same thing with his chick. A
couple minutes later he’d say again how we were getting on so well, and
how the girl had made such a good choice to choose me because I was
such a good guy, and that he wanted to see us (me and my chick) kiss
again, since we were such a nice couple and relating so well. By that
time, I had been holding her hand (this started when he told the girl I
was really liking her because she was so nice and he took her hand and
put it on mine). Then he took the hand of his chick, who was laughing
and giggling through this. After we all got through our kisses with our
respective chicks, we’d say how they are so fun and nice and we are so
happy we met them and got to know them, and we’d say we’d love to get
a chance to talk more, and get to know each other better. They’d ask
how we could do that and I’d ask them (all of them), their phone
numbers. I’d collect them, and kiss my girl again a nice long kiss, and
then say we have to go, and we moved on to the next chicks in the bar
(and we didn’t take long, maybe 5-10 seconds), and jump in front of the
next pair/threesome of chicks and do the entire routine over,

So what did we get for the night. Well, I kissed more chicks that I can
remember, got a shitload of numbers (15 or so?) of most of the HBs in
the place, lots of touching, and they were all crazy about us at the
end of the routine, which was around 20 minutes or so. Over the
evening, as I learned his style, I would reciprocate, and we got better
results even.

This was working anywhere, we got a bunch of girls in bars, and two
sets on the street near the clubs that we were able to start making out
with right on the street within about 2 minutes of meeting them!! His
opener for the kiss with one pair was really good. We walked right up
to two HBs and he did his "my friend is a great guy routine and really
likes you", like before, and then got her to agree that I was a nice
guy too. Then he said that’s great, so lets jan-ken (play rock scissors
paper), and the loser (of me and the chick) has to kiss (ie. No matter
who wins..the chick and I end up reality), we played, she
lost, and I gave her a short kiss on the lips right in the street 60
seconds after meeting her. Then he continued the above routine, in the
prev. paragraph, and we ended up kissing more. I said that now we (me
and my chick) kissed, so now I wanted to see him and his chick
kiss..they did.. Again, the high fives each time we got a chick to do
something, right in front of was like a game show our
attitudes with the chicks, and they got into it too. BTW, the chick I
kissed in 60 seconds was only 19, I am 31, he’s 26 and his chick was 19
too. They were crazy about us too after about 10 minutes of this, we
got their numbers, and then walked up the street 20 feet and did the
same routine all over again with the next two HBs.

Guys, I don’t know why, but this works. If you get a good partner, you
can really hit on a chick without hitting on her, if you are doing it
for the other guy,because actually you arent really hitting on her!!
(it helps if the other guy is reciprocating..or even if he’s not,
because you can do the moves on your chick, while describing how its
nice for the other chick and the other guy to do the same thing, right
in front of your own target). Like I said, he was just grabbing guys in
the bar and introcuding them to chicks when there were groups..the
other guys though didnt speak much japanese, so didnt get very far, but
we did great and will go next week and get more chicks, once I finish
with all the numbers I got.

We did well, everyone was a 9 or 10, one chick wearing very sexy black
hot pants and half top, and she was all over me like glue by the end.
Severl others, I cant remember,I was necking with one for 5 minutes. We
got all their numbers and they were pleading for us to call them by the
end each time. Shitloads of women.. I’d never had a night like this
before..this guy is GOOD!!

Oh, that was the other thing, often, when we’d first introduce to a
chick, they’d try to blow us out. But Smooth would never give up on
chicks as long as there was interaction (even if it was negative) of
any kind, for a minimum of 5 minutes. He’d repeat how great I was, and
how much I liked them, and loved Japanese women, it worked because it
is hard for the chick to blow him (me) out, since I wasn’t doing
anything,,he was talking about me.. in over 50% of the cases, after a
bit of that, and how we should be friends, their barriers would go
down, and we could start the normal routine, and get the french kisses
and phone numbers and get them crazy about us, and move on. Again, very
much ‘game show host’ attitude as he was moving me and the chick
along, while doing the same thing to his chick. As well, he would talk
with whoever in the bar, and make the chick wait a couple minutes (we
were already holding their hands, so they had to wait,ie.. were were
not supplicating..we made them wait, and get used to waiting for us to
finish). We did this in the street, he saw a street band, he stopped
and started talking tot he musician, and just made the chicks wait (I
am suprised they didnt leave..but they didnt) as they were a bit ahead
of us on the street by then).

Things he didn’t do, didn’t ask their names (until just before the
phone close, but after the kiss), didnt talk about hobbies, or any of
that other shit..just, I am great, their cute, we are wonderful, you
should kiss, here take his hand, he is my best friend..etc..etc.. very
surface level.. He was never serious, and never got into questions
about jobs or whatever either, just he stuck to the point, were all
here, lets have fun and and see what we can do. When a girl gave
resistance, he never argued, but grab her hand, put it on mine, and say
how we are having fun, ask her if she likes me (shed say I am okay),
then go on to how I like her..blah blah. Aggressive somehow, but not
really since he is not pushing HIMSELF on her, he is pushing me, and
then taking his own chick along. He paid very little attention to his
chick verbally, but would duplicate the physical stuff with the hands, that he was getting me to do with my chick. He would put his
arms around all the chicks in the group with me, while we danced with
them,again, game show host attitude all the way, high fives often when
one of us would get a small ‘win’ with a chick..etc..etc. He’d say to
come met us again next week (even though we got their numbers), and
we’ll be out here..blah blah..
When girls werwe on the street going someplace, or one chick in the
group wanted to drag the others away, he’d ask where they were going,
(they’d say, home..another club, drinking..etc), he’d say that’s good
lets go, and force us upon them. For about a couple minutes they were
uncomfortable, but as he talked about how great I was, and happy we
could spend time with them, and it was so much fun, their attitude
would change..again, like when we’d first meet them kind of
problem..he’d resolve it the same way..theyd start smiling, and we’d
end up having lots of fun,the kissing..phon  nums..touching..all over
again. We had about a 75% hit rate (ie. We could french kiss and get
numbers of about 75% of the chicks we hit on), using this method..

So what do you think guys? His approach worked because you can be very
overt when you are "helping out your friend" (and of course the friend
is reciprocating). We were with chicks all the time and both of us got
much farther than we would have under any traditional approach. We
decided to go to a chick shopping district and just try it on the
street, That will be another report,

One more thing,I have seen this approach in one other place, and I
think this is where he learned it.. In Japan, there is a kind of erotic
video, where two or three guys will just go on a street by a train
station, and hit on girls exactly like he did (same phrases,
actions..words), and try and get them to sleep with him to make the
video. It is all real and unstaged.. Ironically, quite a few girls will
actually go for it. He was doing exaclty this, like the appraoch the
guys used in the videos to convince the girls (they are pretty, my
buddy thinks you are sexy,blah blah..kiss game..blah). They are called
‘street Nanpa’ videos (nanpa = skirt chasing, or sarging), and are all
over japan. They are very good instruction because they show all the
pickups attempts successes and failures, of the chicks till they get
the one that they sleep with.. probably someplace on the net has got
them too,..they are all over Japan anyways,

So what do you guys think? This is so radical, that I am open to any
opinions on this, and how/why it worked/what could be changed to make
it better,

Maniac High

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