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From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Wed Sep  8 20:33:34 1999From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: Evening Report: Maniac FUMBLES Ms. Tubby but makes a discovery.

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In article <8LoB3.5731$LL2.62023@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com>,"maniac_high" <maniac_high@pickupguide.com> writes:>PROBLEM: her state is all wrong when I get her back to my place, and>I can't change it to something that it useful, so that she doesn't>freak when I try to touch/kiss her...>>Opinions?>>Maniac
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From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Wed Sep  8 20:34:07 1999From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: Evening Report: Maniac FUMBLES Ms. Tubby but makes a discovery.

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In article <OclB3.5664$LL2.61495@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com>,"maniac_high" <maniac_high@pickupguide.com> writes:>Evening Report: Maniac FUMBLES Ms. Tubby but makes a discovery!>990908>>Tonight, was an evening with a throwaway chick (Ms. Tubby, a cute >`7', but had a little bit of a belly), which I fumbled and ended up not >laying, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. Even though I am already fucking some "regulars" who I like >who are better looking than this chick, I often date throwaway chicks >and try to fuck them, just to practice laying chicks and to learn >something/improve my style.
that's what it's all about.  the pro baseball players have to go to springtraining EVERY YEAR before the season starts  :)>Tonight was no exception. I learned >something very interesting from this which will discuss after the >detailed report, buy Amoxicillin from mexico, especially concerning `types of chicks', and matching >your approaches to types of chicks. I found this out when calling a >second chick right after the first one left, and noticing a stunning >difference in reaction to pretty much the same approach.  The result  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, >with Tubby, was pretty much a "Ms Sparkles" spaghetti chick type >result, even though I did do the things that NYC said this time. I did >find some other things I did wrong though WITH THIS TYPE OF >CHICK. My impression (now) is that Tubby was looking for an easy >no obligation lay, and wanted me to give it to her. I fumbled because I >though she wanted more than that, and tried to protray myself as that >kind of guy.
OOOOOOOPS.  hahaha
Elicited the WRONG VALUES maybe.  :)>First the story, then my analysis, and corrections I will >make, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. Comments welcome as usual!>>Allright, Where can i buy cheapest Amoxicillin online, first the report. Ms Tubby  is a girl I met in the disco the>night >I was out with Picasso on Friday. I was in a good laughing mood on >Friday, and made eye contact with her as I was moving, and we hit it >off fairly well in the bar initially. Her English was so, so I thought >(though tonight I found that her english is okay, but she often doesn't >listen, rather she is thinking the next thing to say).
you should have remembered this for your date.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, this chick is a TALKER... not aLISTENER... act accordingly.

>I get her number, >and call her a couple days later, online buying Amoxicillin. When I got her number, she said to>call >her before she went to London 8 months later..that was strange..but ok.
yeah I met a desperate chick on AOL on a Friday night.  she told me to call herbefore TUESDAY because she was going on a trip to Disney World.., Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. though sheCLAIMED not to have any kids.  :)
I think this shows low self-esteem.  guys probably NEVER call her, so getting acall within 8 months is probably GOOD for her :)>When I call her, she doesn't remember who I am, but is game to meet >me anyways. We make an arrangement for the next evening after work >in Shibuya, a busy area a couple stations from my house (I often meet >chicks here the first time because chicks are usually afraid to go to>the >station where I live, as it is a bit obscure and it makes them >uncomfortable I found).
that is a good idea.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, keep it as general and safe for them as possible.  Order Amoxicillin online c.o.d, notonly are they more likely to agree, but they are not NERVOUS about thesurroundings, which will be ANCHORED to you.

>I get to Shibuya., and the chick is waiting.>She >is dressed well and looks good. I meet her and she immediately takes >my hand (a good sign).
no, an excellent sign.  what did you do after SHE took your hand.  do you knowthe hassles some guys go through to get a chick to LET THEM TAKE HER HAND ANDKEEP IT, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.  think about it.  SHE initiated KINO with YOU.  you should have gonefor more mild kino to see how far she wanted it to go.  also, how did you greether, buy no prescription Amoxicillin online.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, kiss on the cheek.  handshake.  nothing.

>Then I ask her if she ate, and she asks me if I >ate. I say no, and then she says no (clue, I think she would have said >`yes' had I said so).
she would have DEFINITELY said yes.  chicks don't like to eat in front of guys, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.

 you also said she has a weight problem.  she is STRIVING to look like shedoesn't eat a lot :)  she was giving you the reins by reflecting the questionto you.  whether you ate or not is irrelevant to your question to her.  she wasHANDING YOU the lead like she GAVE YOU her hand earlier.

 Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, >I suggest to go get a bite nearby.  Where can i order Amoxicillin without prescription, She has this>really >confused look on her face now (I think she expected me to take her >right home and fuck her).
you SHOULD have asked her "so... WHAT do you want to eat?" and flashed her alook.  you MIGHT have gotten a response of her looking at your dick or smilingin a sly fashion that would have told you to kiss her then take her ass HOME.

:)>We start to go to a place neary to eat, and>she >remarks that there are good places near my own station (clue #2 which >I pick up). I tell her lets go there then, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. So we do. 
typical "I wanna get fucked" move.  it's the same thing as coming closer to youin a bar so you can talk to her.  I have been IN BARS far from my house and hadchicks DECIDE to change venues and SKIP dozens of bars NEAR where we were to goto places near my house.

 Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, >We get there, and we order. I start to talk to her now. Here is where>the >fumble begins I think. This chick wanted to fuck. She didn't want to >talk (turns out she is rather boring to talk to, buy cheap Amoxicillin no rx, and is hard to>interact >with). But we are eating now instead (actually, I did this, because>many >chicks freak out if you try to take them home instantly, or say they>are >hungry when they get there, and want to go someplace to eat), Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. 
stop that "many chicks" shit.  play each situation as it unfolds.  chicks areso random that you can't even count on the way you laid them the FIRST TIME towork the second time :)  you CERTAINLY can't apply what you did with OTHERgirls to this one... though it is a good template.

 Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, >When talking I ask her if she has a BF. I asked her this at the club,>and >the reply (in the noise) I thought I heard, was "several", but it was >really loud. So I asked if she is the type with lots of BFs and she>says >"maybe". Another clue, Australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, this girl likes to fuck around. Then I ask her >what she wants in a BF and she says she doesn't want a BF (another >clue, wants an easy relationship maybe).
weak, lame... now you start into sex shit, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.  you didn't LEARN ANYTHING about thechick.  why doesn't she want a boyfriend.  when was she last in a steadyrelationship.  when was she last with a man.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, if you had asked her WHY shedidn't want a boyfriend, she MIGHT have said "because I hate fucking the sameguy over and over... I like meeting new men."  then what.  take her ass HOME.
you are missing ops to LET HER HINT at what she wants.  you are sticking toostrictly to FORM and not playing the game as it unfolds.

>So I start to talk about sex >stuff like NYC said, I start to talk about an old GF, and what she was >like.
why are you talking about girlfriends when she said she doesn't want aboyfriend, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.  why are you talking about other women BEFORE you know if she HATESIT when guys talk about other women, Amoxicillin over the counter.

>But her response is negative, she starts picking on the fact that I >helped her choose her clothes, and how that was bad. (uh oh).
DUH.  if you had asked her WHY she doesn't WANT a boyfriend, she MIGHT havesaid "because I hate it when people try to tell me what to do."  how so.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, "well,one time I went shopping and this asshole was trying to tell me what I shouldwear..."  you could have avoided telling her the WRONG THING.  you areDEFINITELY FLYING BLIND HERE.  you are throwing out BULLSHIT conversationbecause you have NO IDEA what direction to take her in.

>And then when she starts talking, she stops listening to what I say, it isvery>hard to direct conversation with this girl, Amoxicillin pharmacy, and sometimes, I will say >something (ie. Redirect to talking about a GF, or a past horny >experience), and she will stop, (seem to) listen, and then continue on >her unrelated subject (ie. Annoyances in the office) as if I hadn't>said anything, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.  
like I said... you should have REMEMBERED that she is a talker and NOT alistener.  TALKERS don't give a FUCK what you have to say, but will tolerateyou flapping your jaws because YOU asked them out.  ACT ACCORDINGLY.

 Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, >I tried to find other things and values, about her to anchor on to, but it >was hard, a bit like HB hotpants. I couldnt get any values out with this >chick no matter how I tried, where can i find Amoxicillin online. When I am with some girls, I find they >answer the questions and talk the proper way to help you pick them >up.this chick wasnt doing that at all.. I asked her what she wanted for >herself in the future, and she said "nothing special".
so then you said "so... you'd be satisfied with good sex then?"
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>Then I asked her if >she values excitement in her life (figuring, maybe this was her style, >with all the BFs and all),l and she said no, she just wants ordinary>life, >and for people to not to worry about her.  Buy Amoxicillin online no prescription, Then she contracticted >herself, and said that she didn't like boring either.
do you realize that "do you value excitement in your life" is a uselessquestion compared to "what do you value?"  it is a CLOSED-ENDED question.  yesor no.  it requres NO THINKING on her part.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, she can choose from yes or no andsatisfy your question without meta-stating and therefore telling you ANYTHINGuseful from deep inside.  that's why she was floundering... she was making theshit up in the fly.

>She liked design (ie. >Furniture, lamps..etc) and lived in London to study this. I tried to get >the good feelings she had in London, and she liked it because she didnt >like Japan.
smart :)  now you're getting somewhere>I asked her if sometimes she was lonely (trying to model myself to fill >that gap), and she replied no, she had many friends and everything was >fine, and she didn't want a BF.
DUH, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.  do you know how chicks are STARVING for boyfriends.  for her to say "Idon't want a boyfriend" means that she is NOT LONELY.  it also says a lot moreabout her.  you should have said in the beginning.., buy Amoxicillin in canada.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, "that's fascinating...

you're the first woman I ever met that doesn't want a boyfriend... how did youcome to that decision?" get more information AND make her feel unique at thesame time.
you are STILL FLYING BLIND.  taking SHOTS IN THE DARK.

>Now at this point, I think I know what she wants, an unttached no BF >night of sex, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. However, because she is so self directing in the >conversations, I am finding it very hard to get her in that horny>state.
a chick like this is CONSTANTLY ready for sex... whether she appears horny ornot.  in this case, I think opportunity was more important than state.  youshould have walked her to a romantic location in your area so she could get aclue and get with the program.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, I didn't make any moves on this chick, butwalked her into Central Park and laid down in the grass with her...  Buy generic Amoxicillin, she KNEWwhat time it was then  :)>There were other problems (see my analysis below).>>The other issue, is the tongue-down,. In Japan, chicks are very >embarrassed to do kissing/tonguing in public. And in Tokyo, short of >your place, or a hotel, there are not a whole lot of dark corners you>can >do this (you just cannot believe how crowded and full of people Tokyo >is), so although I wanted to do thiss earlier, the opportunity just did>not >come up where I could.
if you had kissed her when you met her (I don't know that you didn't) you wouldhave had a test as to whether whe was interested in making out with you or not.

>So I ask her to my place after supper. She asks how far it is, and I>say >about 5 minutes, we hold hands again, and she comes, no problem.
what did you say to her precisely, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. "do you want to come home with me?" it kindof matters as far as what she was expecting when you got there, buy cheapest Amoxicillin.

>I remark about the flowers on the trees how they are nice, and she says >its boring, same in Japan every year (as I said, she didn't help me to >pick her up at all).
yes she did.  you should have said "oh really.  where is it different?"

INSTANT meta-state as she DREAMS about places that look prettier and changewith the seasons blah blah blah.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, she will TELL YOU the place she loves and youcan move on from there.

>On the way to the house I also ask her if she is a >good cook (to set up a supper date for the future possibly at my place>if tonight doesnt progress.
dude, you have done everything right... if tonight doesn't progress (due to herfault that is, not your LACK of playing her correctly :p )  you should reallyconsider one-and-doneing her.  everything is "right" here.  Rx free Amoxicillin, there is NO REASONshe should turn down sex with you... at this point  :)>She says "NO she hates cooking"..
do you see a pattern here, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.  everything you ask her she negates.  you shouldhave asked her "so... do you hate sex?">Now we >are walking to my place, holding hands.  My plan is to get her home, >and just try to tongue her down and lay her.  I will try to just kiss>her as  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, >soon as we get in, and set the tone from there, that has worked before. >>But not this time. As soon as we get in, she goes on her own to see the >rooms downstairs, so I couldn't even get her before taking off my >shoes.
hahahaha where the fuck was she going.  is she a professional thief.  did youtell her to go down there, purchase Amoxicillin online no prescription.  I have never had a woman FEEL FREE to roam my housethe FIRST TIME she came over  :)>Here is where I make my other big fuckup I think, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. I turn on the >lights, but they are dim, and I play soft nice music. This is usually >lethal with chicks who are a bit into me at this stage, but I realize>now, >that if a chick is just into sex, and not into me, it will have a>really >creepy feel. I think this is what happened (and happened with sparkles >too). For chicks into sex, but not romantically into me, Amoxicillin from canadian pharmacy, the lights>should >be up, and more uplifting music (maybe Dire Straights or something >like that).
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<the sound of Maniac High SHOOTING IN THE DARK. HAHAHAHAHAHA>>I think she felt a little scared with the surroundings,>even >though there was no question that I intended to fuck her when we got >there, as the kino (minus the tongue down) was pretty good, even >though the conversation was not.. 
if you say so.., Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. I haven't seen a single sign yet from your post that anyAGREEMENTS were made between the two of you... lots of conrontations though.

>Now at this point, I try to get her to shut up so I can work on her, buy Amoxicillin without a prescription, I>try >to take her hand, like we had been doing all night with no problem, and >she is getting chilly now, and blabbing about work stuff, and some guy >in Italy she was seeing, or "is" seeing but hasn't seen..etc.
uh oh... all of a sudden she wants to talk about "boyfriends" that's not goodAT ALL.  matter of fact she shouldn't be talking AT ALL at this point  :) Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, >I try to anchor good feelings from that experience like NYC said, but it isnot

>working.
anchoring feelings from other men is SO FAR AHEAD of the stage you're at nowthat if you had to go back that far when she's ALREADY IN YOUR HOUSE... you arein a BAD position.

>She is blabbing, but not listening, even though eye contactg is >very good.  Order Amoxicillin no prescription, She did say something important near the end though. She >said that often, it is good not to talk, and let the feelings take>over.
what was the context. still the other guy, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.  I am confused here.  she wasn'ttalking about YOU and HER right.

>I hear that, and shut up, and try to get her to shut up (which is hard).>I try to take her hand again, and do a massage after getting her to realize>hw stressful she has been. She takes my hand away, and gets really chilly, >then says she has to go, Amoxicillin for sale, and leaves.
wow...  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, FROSTY dude.

>As NYC said, this time I dont say thank you for nice evening or anything likethat.
Thank you :)>I make a good attempt >to get her to stay, but then she leaves out the door. I don't bother to >walk her to the station, considering her bad behavior.
nah... fuck her  :)>Then, I decide to call up another chick (Boatbabe) I also met recently >on a boat. This is where I make a stunning realization, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. This chick, I >have already gotten to attach to me by my talking.  Amoxicillin price, She listens, and >interacts well, and it is easy to guide her thoughts by my talking,>which >I couldn't do at all with Tubby. Then I also reallize, that chicks like >Boatbabe (evening report on her will come out after our date on >Friday), I can usually lay and get feeling relaxed. These are chicks>that >are lonely, and looking for emotional/personal support rather than just >simply sex, my system lays them almost every time.   Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, that means you need a new system for the sex-me chicks... or better yet,practice more so you meet more personality types and learn to play them astheir personalities evolve.

>But chicks with no attachment, purchase Amoxicillin online, who just want sex, or fun, like Tubby >or Sparkles, I often fumble, because I try to get all this emotional>stuff going..WHICH THEY DONT WANT. (or my assumption anyways).
good assumption... use it for next time instead of ASSUMING that all chicksfall for the same scheme  :)>I often fuck up these lays although they should be easier. Probably, had>I just taken Tubby home directly, and ordered a Pizza, I could have laid >her probably, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. This one was a bit like some of NYC's, where he says he >has the lay, but then when he opens his mouth, he loses it with that >chick.  Where can i buy Amoxicillin online, 
not really.  I see what you mean, but you failed to find out how to getinformation out of her.  I posted on a chick I called "lost cause" because shestonewalled me also.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, She wouldn't give me any info that I could use, so when Iwas ready to leave, I went for KINO shooting in the dark and she rejected me.

SHAQ'ED.  of course she did because I never got a CHANCE to get her to thestate I needed her in.
what you should have done was recognize this as a personality flaw andconsidered ending the date early.  I understand the idea of trying anything youcan until a chick runs screaming from your house, but I have recently taken theposition that if I can't play her RIGHT, I'm not going to play her at all.  ifI see things that I don't like.., Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. LJBF, instantly... you COULD have taken herOUT to a bar and used her as a female wing and met other chicks, Amoxicillin samples.  that wouldhave been much mor productive with a flaky chick like that.  you need to bemore open to change in your style based on the information you receive...  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, orlack thereof.

>I also noticed, that this always happens only with chicks who come on >strong to you early on (like sparkles, or tubby, or a couple others>last >year). NYC, said that it was because they didn't expect a lay when they >came over (sparkles), but in this case tonight, I am sure she knew what >to expect when we got there.
how are you SURE of that.  what behavior did you display that told her "I am aMAN and I plan to FUCK YOU TODAY!"  when.  Order Amoxicillin, I just met a chick for lunch whosenumber I dug up from a year ago and called her cold.  I ASSUMED that she wouldthink that I had called her because I wanted to fuck her, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.  when I saw her, itwas clear that she wasn't considering sex at all AND that she always goes outfor lunch with friends and never has ATTRACTION come into the picture.
I am not sure she expected you to try to fuck her and if she did, I think shechanged her mind along the way.  I think you didn't display enough aggressionat all.  you were HOPING that taking a girl to your house sends the signal thatyou intend to fuck her and that by going, she agrees to it...  ask Mike Tyson

:) Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, >But she wasn't comfortable and relaxed, >which is what caused her to run out around 9:15 with some lame >excuse. So, from now on, chicks who come on strong early on, get a >new approach than the "romantic ones" like boat chick, which I got >hammered down now.
stop right there.., buy Amoxicillin online cod. you will fuck up AGAIN if you make a new category... youhave to build the chick as she tells you about herself, then play her as aunique individual.

>So, what is a good routine to lay a chick who wants a no obligation lay >(it seems), and get her comfortable?
Kino ASAP.  PERIOD, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription.

>Possibly, more joking (if this chick >would shut her mouth though), maybe a drinking game when we got to >my place, rock music rather than piano music, and the lights up until >the action started?>Opinions guys, Online buy Amoxicillin without a prescription, how do you do this?>>There is the danger though, that pushing too much too quickly (Ie >taking her home for pizza right away), could freak out a chick right >away, and also get her to freeze up/run out pacing is hard when you >dont know the chick well yet and what to expect..
if you would stop shooting in the dark you would be fine.  the chick I went tolunch with I FULLY INTENDED to seduce her and fuck her after lunch.  when I sawthat she was not interested and that I would have a really tough timeconvincing her AND that she was much better as a pivot AND that I was in adowntown area with MANY chicks, we called it a day right after lunch.  she saidshe had to meet a girlfriend to go shopping and I said ok then...  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, I'm going tothe Video Store and we parted company.  I COULD HAVE tried to get some sex fromher, but it was NOT worth the effort AND I would have been flying blind if Itried anything, so I saved her for another day when perhaps loaction or ALCOHOLmay win the day.  either way, I am still LJBF with her, buy Amoxicillin no prescription, so I can call her andtell her to bring her girlfriends out to hang with me and my wing.  she is muchmore valuable for social proof than one HIT-OR-MISS fuck attempt  :)>and especially, if>they arent helping you to seduce her, like this chick was acting. >It is like some chicks dont want to be seduced, they just want to be >fucked, and trying to seduce them first, will chill them out >emotionally. but then how do you get to the fuck, if you dont do the >seduction first especially if they behave like she did tonight (almost >EXACTLY like sparkles behaves as soon as she got in the door), Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. But >then other times, with other chicks, if you dont seduce them first,>then >they freak out when you try for the fuck.hummm. Maniac is stumped >on this one..>>Anyways, good learning experience, a throwaway chick, so no >problem, but Maniac has to learn how to bag these easier "want just the >lay" chicks.I think it takes a totally different approach than I am>used >to doing.>>Opinions on to why I fumbled and what to do different next time >welcome!>>Maniac High>http://www.pickupguide.com
I actually forgot this was a throwaway.  this chick is used to taking whatevershe can get.  that whole wine her and dine her shit she NEVER GETS.  Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription, you shouldhave immediately gone for kino OR talked sex to her and gotten herinterested... if she ran... FUCK HER.  she ran ANYWAY.  and that was afterwasting HOURS of your time to boot.  :)





From mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d Wed Sep  8 19:08:17 1999From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Re: Evening Report: Maniac FUMBLES Ms, Buy Amoxicillin No Prescription. Tubby but makes a discovery.

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In article <01bef9c3$a2587e40$2528b8a1@chillpil>, "?anno"<gunferhire@hotmail.com> writes:>"I'm all for Womens Lib so I am going to LET you make a choice...we can>either go eat at this fantastic restaurant I know or we can order Pizza>from my place.
that's actually really good.
this gives HER the option of taking you home or not and lets you know where youstand in the date.  if she looks interested in going home, but still picks therestaurant or if she takes long in deciding at all, you're looking good.
good idea  :)

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