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From the archives at Maniac High's Seduction Website: http://www.pickupguide.com "The Kiss": Another fucking excellent seduction by David Shade! From davidshade@home.com Thu Nov 25 01:16:13 1999 Message-ID: <38394A74.258C15C9@home.com> From: David Shade <davidshade@home.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast Subject: field report David Shade "the kiss" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 509 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:52:35 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.2.75.114 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc2.mi.home.com 943278755 24.2.75.114 (Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:52:35 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:52:35 PST Organization: @Home Network Xref: wormhole.dimensional.com alt.seduction.fast:64645 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) My fellow asf ng buddies. Ever since finishing Ross' basic home study course, I have been having a lot more fun in the night clubs. I have found that SS works just as well there as it does everywhere else. I first meet Suzanne about two months ago................ On a Friday night my two sons and I make the two hour drive to spend an overnight at my parents house. As my parents dote over their two grandchildren, I excuse myself to go check out the night life down town where I used to party years ago. After checking out a number of places, I eventually make my way to this one large crowded loud night club. By now it is about 12:30 AM. My attention is grabbed by a blonde and a brunette standing at the bar. I approach the brunette and say "Excuse me, I know you are having a beer with your friend, but can I ask you something?" She looks at me but says nothing. I say "Do you know the best place to go? I have not partied in this town for some time." She stares coldly for a moment and then says "Here." I say "Thank you. I used to come here when it was called " She says "Oh. Do you remember when used to play here?" I say "No, but do you remember when used to play here?" Then the blonde motions to the brunette as if to ask what is going on. The brunette tells the blonde "He is asking where the best place to go is." I say to the blonde "Yes, I used to live here some time ago and I was wondering what is the best place to go." She says "Where do you live now?" I say "The Detroit area." She says "Oh, what do you do there?" I say "I am an engineer, but I am only analytical during the day." She laughs heartily at this one. I continue with "After work I relax and enjoy being a human, and being creative." She says "What is your name?" I extend my hand and say "My name's David." She shakes my hand and says "My name's Suzanne." These two women appear to be sober and alert. Suzanne has a much better attitude. Suzanne then asks me "So, do you paint?" I say "No, I write poetry." She says "Really?" I say "Yes, and if I were to recite one of my poems to you, would you give me your honest opinion?" She motions to her friend and says "He is going to tell us a poem." I want to direct my poem only to Suzanne. I look at Suzanne as I start Nick Fortune's "Two Eyes." She finds that she has to put her ear near my mouth to hear. When I am done, she says "That was beautiful! Are you a very spiritual person?" I say "Yes I am. Would you consider yourself to be a very spiritual person?" She says "Oh yes. You know, I used to date a guy who lived in the Detroit area, so I know the area pretty well. Where do you live?" I say "I live in " She says "Oh I know where that is. I used to go to and night club when I dated him. (two gothic clubs) I am not into gothic clothing or any of that stuff, but I liked how it was so different. You could feel free to be who you wanted to be. He was different too." I asked her how he was different and she said he was exciting, but, the relationship broke up due to "issues" he had. She felt as if he was always comparing her to his ex girl friend and that she did not really feel that she was the most "special person" to him. She said it did not make her feel "beautiful" or "sexy." I look her directly in the eyes and move my face slightly closer to hers and say "You want to be with (sp) a man who makes YOU FEEL BEAUTIFUL and makes YOU FEEL SEXY and makes YOU FEEL LIKE THE MOST SPECIAL PERSON." She says "Oh yes. I don't know why I am telling you all this." She does not wait for a response, but instead continues talking. She speaks about how he was too "dark" and depressing. I motion away and say "Dark is too depressing." She says "Yes, I look at life differently. I look at the glass as being half full." I say "That is a very optimistic way to look at things. (sp)" She corrects me with "It is a positive way to look at things. I am a very positive person." I motion away and say "You don't want to be with a depressing person, instead, you want to be with (sp) a different exciting man who has a positive outlook on life." The brunette never interrupted us and Suzanne had totally forgotten about her. The brunette goes around to behind Suzanne and introduces herself to some guy standing there, and then she checks to see if I am seeing this. Suzanne and I have established good rapport, so I go into the IC pattern. She says "Oh no! That has never happened to me!" I say "That has never happened to you?" She says "I am too protective." I say "What do you mean?" She says "I put up a wall to protect my vulnerability. I have been hurt too many times." Then she looks me directly in the eyes and moves her face a little closer and says "I could tell you were an older man." I say "Thank you. How could you tell I am a more mature man?" She says "Because you look at me right in the eyes. Young men cannot look at me right in the eyes." I move closer to her face and look intensely into her eyes and say "I think the eyes are the windows to the spirit." She says "Oh, so true, the spirit is what we truly are. Our bodies are just the gift that God gave us. A tool." In my deepest, most sensual voice, I say "Yes, so true. In order to really get to know (sp) someone, you must look deep into their spirit. Only when YOU TRULY KNOW THIS PERSON (sp) can you use this tool of expression, and SHARE THE GIFT OF OUR BODIES so deeply (motion back and forth.) When YOU REALLY KNOW THIS PERSON (sp) YOU FEEL FREE to CELEBRATE THIS GIFT that brings our spirits so much closer together." She slowly moves the tip of her nose to almost touch the tip of my nose. She lets her breasts touch my chest. I softly hold her hand which is hanging at her side. We stare into each other's eyes for a moment. I then look at her lips and go into the first kiss pattern. I do it very slowly and sensually. I lick my lips but she does not lick hers. I tilt my head slightly to one, but she does not move any closer. Then, she drops her head back exposing her neck. I would love to kiss her neck but she did not kiss my lips. So I simply describe very softly into her ear how it would feel for her to have her neck kissed. She then puts the side of her face just next to the side of mine. I say "If we keep doing this, we are going to GET SO INCREDIBELY HOT. But we can't do that." I respectfully back away and say "As much as I want to take you home with me tonight, I can't. I am staying at my parents house with my two sons." She says "Oh, I have a son too. How old are yours?" It turns out she had been married from age 18 to 21 and she has a young son whom she and her ex husband have joint custody of. This is her week off. We talk about raising children and shared values. She has her undergraduate and masters degree in Human Resources. Then she says "You are a good listener." I say "Thank you. How do you mean?" She says "Most people just say 'yeah, ahum, yeah' but you really listen to what I say." I reply with "There is a big difference between just hearing someone (point away) and really listening to someone (sp). When YOU REALLY LISTEN TO THIS PERSON (sp) you feel that YOU REALLY KNOW THIS PERSON and it allows you to FEEL FREE WITH THIS PERSON to allow yourself to BECOME VULNERABLE TO THIS PERSON." She enthusiastically agrees. Then she brings attention to herself, and brings the conversation back to sex, by saying "Do you know the club on the other side of town?" I say "No." She says "It's a gay bar." (I think she is talking about a bar for gay men, but she means a bar for lesbian women.) She continues with "My friend and I went there last week just for kicks. This one woman came up to me and said 'Your breasts are so large' and she said 'and they are so UP'." Suzanne is obviously very proud of her breasts and they are very sensual for her and she has noticed that her eyes are the only thing that I have looked at. Suzanne continues with "If I had been born with small breasts, I would not have them enlarged. I think our bodies are our bodies. They are what God gave us. I once wanted to be a model, but I will not eat just two cucumber slices a day. This is my body. Also, a person has to accept me for what I am." I say "Yes, your man (sp) is a man who accepts you for what you are. A man who makes YOU FEEL like the special woman that you are. A man who makes YOU FEEL SO BEAUTIFUL. A man who makes YOU FEEL SO VERY SEXY." She says "I am not seeing anyone right now. Are you seeing anyone right now?" I say "No." She says "What does David want in a woman?" I say "David wants..." She laughs and interrupts me with "No, let's not talk in the third person." We share a laugh and I start over with "I want to be with a woman... (I lightly touch the upper part of her sternum) who has... (I recite Ross' "special qualities" pattern and motion back and forth.) She says "Lolita." I say "What?" She says "lo-LEE-ta!" and she swings her hips and flings one arm in the air. I say "Lolita?" She says "Have you ever seen that movie?" I say "What was that movie about?" She says "It was about a woman named Lolita. Sometimes I am Lolita. I am a very proper woman, but sometimes I am Lolita. A slut." I say "You like to allow that woman inside you to come out." She corrects me and says "That little girl" as she puts her hand to show the height of the girl. I correct my statement with "You like to allow that little girl inside you to come out." She says "Oh yes. Most men cannot deal with the fact that I am a very sensual woman, that at times I want to be a slut. There is nothing wrong with it, but they just cannot deal with it." I know that this woman wants a strong man. I motion away and say "Some men are not strong enough to deal with a very sensual woman, but (sp) your strong man can bring out the slut in you." She says "Are you a strong man?" I reply by challenging her: "Are you the type of woman who can ALLOW YOURSELF TO FEEL FREE with this man (sp). Can you (touch her sternum) give permission to your strong man to be gentle yet strong with you?" She says "Can you deal with a woman who wants to be a slut?" I say "Nothing gives me greater pleasure than to take this proper woman (touch her sternum) and melt down her walls and make YOU FEEL SO OPEN (slide finger slowly down her sternum) and make YOU FEEL SO VULNERABLE and make YOU FEEL SO SEXY." She has the doggy dinner bowl look big time, so I slide my finger down into her cleavage and say "and make YOU FEEL SO HOT." She looks at my hand that is pointing at her cleavage and she takes my hand and slides it down over her breast. She watches as I softly hold her breast while her hand still softly covers my hand. She presses her breast against my hand. I feel her nipple erection through her thin lacy bra. She drops her head back and allows her body to fall against mine. He ear is next to my mouth. I say very sensually into her ear "And make YOU FEEL SO VERY EXCITED....and make YOU FEEL SO VERY SENSUAL....and make YOU FEEL SO VERY SEXY....and make YOU FEEL SO VERY HOT." She puts her free hand behind my head and slowly slides the side of her face back against mine until our lips are very close. She allows the tip of her tongue to slide out between her lips just so slightly. Then she gently bites her bottom lip. She looks at my lips and then she slowly tilts her head to one side and closes her eyes and very slowly brings her lips to mine and softly kisses me. I do not move into her or tilt my head. I allow her to lead for a while. Then she opens her lips ever so slightly and begins kissing me passionately. Now I partake and I kiss her back passionately. She removes her hand from my hand and puts it behind my head. I put my free hand on the back of her waist. Right there, at the bar, in this crowded night club, we are kissing passionately with her hands on the back of my head while I firmly fondle her breast. Only one hour after first meeting this completely sober proper educated professional woman. Then she drops her head back again exposing her neck and wraps her arms around my neck to place her neck very closely to me. I kiss her neck. Then I make my way up to her ear and I sensually yet strongly say into her ear "You FEEL SO VERY SPECIAL....You FEEL SO VERY BEAUTIFUL....You FEEL SO VERY SENSUAL....You FEEL SO VERY SEXY....You FEEL SO VERY EXCITED....You FEEL SO VERY HOT....You are so HOT you cannot stand it....You are so TURNED ON that you must have this....You FEEL LIKE THE SLUT THAT YOU ARE." She holds on tighter. I really go for it now and say "You have to have this so fcking badly. You need this so fcking badly. You want to be fcked like the slut that you are." She starts moaning. She lifts one leg and rubs the inside of her thigh against the outside of my thigh. I hold her breast even more firmly and say "You want to be fcked so fcking hard like the slut that you are." She moans even more. I have got to get this woman to take me home, and I have to do it before she realizes what she is doing in this crowded night club. I go for the close. I say "We are making each other so fcking hot. We need to be with each other tonight. This is cruel. I can't take you home with me. We can't think about how incredible it would be." She stands still, lowers her leg, and brings forward her head to look at me, and she agrees. She does not offer to take me home with her. She says "But I can give you my number and you can give me yours and you can call me!" We compose ourselves and turn towards the bar. She asks her friend for a piece of paper and a pen. The brunette is no longer talking to anyone. Suzanne and I exchange numbers. She includes her last name. She then wants to exchange email addresses, so we do that. Then she goes to the bathroom. It is last call. The brunette comes over to me and starts conversation. When Suzanne returns she says to me "My friend is staying at my place tonight. Walk us to my car." I walk her to her car with her friend in tow. Suzanne and I embrace and kiss one last time. I say "It is too bad that tonight cannot continue for hours more. We cannot think about how incredible it would be." She says "My friend is staying at my place tonight. Call me. I can drive to Detroit." I call her 2 days later. We have a one hour conversation sharing with each other what has been going on in our lives. We agree to speak again soon. A few nights later she calls and we speak for about another hour. She is very busy with her job and a business she had started. She is too busy to get together in the near future. Our communication then goes to email. She continues to report how busy she is with work and her business and with her son. The emails eventually die down. I got one email in which she says she really wants to get together, but it is a bad time. Then I do not hear from her. I wait about 2 weeks and send her an email saying "If we never get the chance to enjoy each other's company again, I just wanted to thank you for giving me the most incredible, unforgettable, kiss I have ever received." About a week later I receive this email: "I have been distant, although I have thought about you. Currently I am working on some personal issues regarding a relationship. I have been consumed with confusion. I don't want to say this, but maybe the timing for us was not right. Unfortunately, I have to be distant right now, until I solve some problems in my life. Thank you for sweetness. When things settle down maybe we can talk. I am glad that I met you. I wish our paths could cross again very soon." I wait a few days and respond with: "When we met, you said that you no longer had any issues concerning past relationships. I expect when someone is interested in me, that they are genuine about their intentions. I would hope that you meant all the things that you said to me that night. I will not be a one night 'nightclub' flirtatious fantasy. That happens all too often. I am interested in a mutually fulfilling relationship based on mutual trust and respect. I will not settle for anything less. There are many honest and genuine women who want that too." She sends me back a long email detailing how she became attached to the guy's two kids and now she misses them even though she does not miss him. I do not respond the her email, but I do make note of her trance words. About 4 days later she sends this email: "I was hoping to hear a response from you? I had emailed you on Sunday, did you receive it? Please let me know if you are still interested in having contact with me or should we not write or talk anymore? I hope that you don't feel that way. I look forward to your response." I reply using some of her trance words: "I am still interested in talking. I understand becoming attached to children. I know that you are a very up beat person, as well as a strong independent woman. You are also a very beautiful and special woman. Hopefully soon you will feel comfortable with the idea of seeing me again. When you honestly can say to yourself that, you are ready to again enjoy the company that we enjoyed together, and, you feel that you want to get together, then give me a call." (Notice the placement of commas in that last sentence.) The following night, Friday, she calls me. We start with small talk about how busy we are. Eventually the conversation must move to what happened in our emails. So I say "I received an interesting email from you." She says "I received an interesting email from you. Why did you think I was still in a relationship?" I say "That was the tone of your email." She explained again how she was no longer interested in him but did still miss the relationship she had with his children. She wants to see the children but does not want him to see that as her still being interested in him. She regretted that she got to know his kids so early in the relationship. It was because of the kids that she continued to see him even though she allowed her self esteem to suffer. She said "Now I am happy. Now I am working on my self esteem. That is how I want to feel, whether I am alone or in a relationship. I will not allow that to happen again. I have been wounded. But they are not permanent injuries." Then she asks me "Are you happy?" I say "I am happy. I am content. Whether I am in a relationship or not. I have come to this point. I was wounded, badly, but that was a long time ago. I am completely healed and I have no issues. I will not allow that to happen again. I am very happy, but there is just one thing missing. Sometimes, especially at this time of night, I miss having someone, someone to hold, someone special to cherish." She asks "Are you lonely?" I say "At times I am lonely. Sometimes at this time of night." She says "And what is it that you seek when you feel lonely?" I say "I want to feel a deep incredible connection - on all levels of intimacy - emotional, intellectual, physical, and spiritual." She says "Everything in my relationship was fine, except there was no passion. Without passion sex is just mechanical. I need the passion. It is something that is either there or is not. You just know it when it is there. It is in the look." I say "Sex without passion is just mechanical. When there is passion, you know it when you look into this person's eyes. Like that night we met, when we looked deeply into each other's eyes, we both knew." She says "It is the passion I miss. I did not realize it until that night we met. Ever since that night I have realized how much I need it." I say "Then you are probably wondering if there is a way where you can experience passion again without getting into a deep relationship, without involving children, without compromising your self esteem, where you can FEEL HAPPY ABOUT YOURSELF." She says "Are you asking me or are you telling me?" I say "I am saying that is probably what you have been considering." She says "Would you like to get together?" I say "I would like that, but only under the condition that there will be no involvement of children, that there will not be a heavy relationship, that you feel that YOU HAVE A HIGH SELF ESTEEM, that you feel that YOU ARE TRULY HAPPY, and that we can take the time to get to know that WE FEEL THE PASSION BETWEEN US." She says "OK." I say "OK." She says "I will drive to you and we can go out for a drink." I say "That would be great." She says "When would be good for you?" I say "When is good for you?" She says "How about Sunday night?" I say "I have my sons until Sunday night." She says "How about Monday night?" I say "That would be good." She says "I will be done working out by 7. I can be there by 9. How do I get there?" I say "I will email you detailed directions and a map." She agrees and we say good night. We did not discuss a location to meet - whether it be a bar or my place. The next day I email her directions to my place. In the email I say "When you get here, we will go to a nearby place to have a drink. I look forward to our conversation." I spend some time during the weekend preparing a story that I will tell Suzanne. It is based on Bishop's "Necklace" pattern, but tailored specifically to Suzanne and using Suzanne's trance words. I know that my story is corny as hell, and obviously contrived, but I have come to realize that Ross is right that women each this shit up. Monday night at 9:00 I print off the story and put it in my jacket. When Suzanne arrives, she calls her friend (the brunette) to tell her she arrived OK. Then we get into my car for the drive to the local pub. Suzanne is very talkative and there is no problem maintaining small talk. She mentions that she has told her people at work that she will not be in until noon the next day. The pub is crowded. We find a table against the wall. Due to the noise level, we have to sit next to each other on the bench seat to hear each other. The waitress comes by and we order a drink. I do not want any more small talk and I want to get Suzanne into a trance right away, so just as soon as we are settled in and feeling comfortable, I bring out the story. I say "I have written a story to tell you." She says "Oh really? Oh my. I would love to hear it!" I begin reading the story. By the end of the story, Suzanne is a bright pink and has a big smile on her face. She looks at me and says "WHO was that about?" I just smile. She says "Was that about us?" I say "It could be." I want us to now traverse the timeline of our relationship to date in reverse chronological order. I have found that this works very well. So I say "I enjoyed our phone conversation the other night. I was glad that we came to an understanding of each other's situation." She says "Yes. What is your situation?" I say "My major concern is that I never want to get married again." She says "Oh me too. I think it is just a piece of paper." I say "I agree. When two people truly want to make this work (motion) then they can keep it exciting." She says "And how do two people keep it exciting?" I say "By being creative." She says "You don't just listen, you really hear." I say "Thank you. I want to really hear what it is you say." She says "You do. You really have a skill for communication." I say "I believe it is all about communication. Only with communication can there be that deep rapport that allows us to FEEL CLOSE to each other." She says "You are very honest with your feelings." I say "Thank you. How do you mean?" She says "Like when you said 'I do not want a one night stand.'" I say "Correct, I do not want a one night stand. If I have you tonight, I will want you again and again. If tonight is going to be just a one night stand, then I am not interested in having sex with you." She says "No No. I mean when you said that you did not want a one night nightclub flirtatious fantasy. I think you said 'I will not stand for that'." I say "Oh yes. Yes, that is correct." She says "I was a bit surprised that you would just come right out and tell me that. That told me that you speak what is on your mind no matter what anybody thinks. You are very truthful with your feelings." I look into her eyes and say "Speaking about that night, I want to thank you for giving me the most incredible... unforgettable... kiss I have ever received." She says "Do you remember when I put my face next to yours?" And she brings the side of her face next to the side of mine. I softly say into her ear "Do you remember when I described to you how wonderful it would feel for me to kiss your neck, all the way down, and then all the way up." She looks at me and says "You are a smart man. You are unlike other men. A woman connects emotions with sex, but for most men, it is separate. But for you, you connect emotion with sex." I say "I do connect emotion with sex. I am not interested unless there is that strong emotional connection. Now, as for women, I think women compartmentalize in a special way..." And I go into Major Mark's "compartments" pattern. I plant an anchor with a wrist squeeze. I say "You know, we live 2 hours apart. That is kinda like a long distance relationship." I go into Bishop's "Long Distance Relationship" pattern. She loves it. At the end of the pattern, she says "But we live close enough to where if we have to have it right now, we can do it." I say "Yes, when YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS (sp) RIGHT NOW, when YOU ARE SO EXCITED that YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS, you can HAVE THIS TONIGHT." She says "You know, I used to know this guy. He was drop dead gorgeous. But he did not interest me. We would play tennis together and he would sweat and he would take off his shirt. He was tall and broad. I know he wanted to sleep with me. But as beautiful as he was, he did not interest me, because he had nothing interesting to say. But you, everything you say, is so fascinating, so warm and fuzzy. You make me feel warm and fuzzy." I say "Nothing gives me greater pleasure than making YOU FEEL SO GOOD." She says "He used to call me at 5:30 in the morning and want to go play tennis. I hated that. You don't get up early do you, you go in at about 9, right?" I say yes. She says "What time do you get up on the weekends?" I say "About noon." She laughs and says "Well I don't get up that late, but I do like to take my time about things." I say "I like to get up and take my time about making pancakes. In fact, some Saturday morning I would like to make you some pancakes, and I would take my time about dripping maple syrup on you and then slowly licking it all off." She says "Ohhh that would be nice." I say "You know what is really fun, on a warm Saturday, when YOU ARE REALLY HOT, is when you can have fun with ice cubes. I don't mean putting ice cubes directly on your skin. I mean when I take and hold the ice cube in my hand and let the ice cube slowly melt and let the cold water droplets drip onto your skin, and let it send shivers all throughout your body, and let it drip here..." (I touch the top of her sternum, firing off an anchor from the last time we were together.) "And let it drip here..." (I touch a little lower.) "And let it drip here..." (I touch into her cleavage.) She says "Oh yes. ALL the way down." I say "Oh yes, and send the shivers all the way down." She says "Why me? I mean, why me? Of all the woman you could have selected that night, why did you choose me?" I say "After having gone to the night clubs for so many years, I have cum to realize that beauty is common. I could go into any night club and I could begin conversation with any number of beautiful women, but it takes more than beauty to interest me." I recite Ross' "special qualities" pattern. I continue with "Soon after you and I began talking, I began to feel that you might posses those qualities. And you know how I knew that?" She says "How?" I say "Because I felt that incredible connection between us. I felt it right here." I point to my solar plexus. She says "Yes, right here." And she points to her solar plexus. She says "It is like the sun. It is warm and fuzzy." She then asks me "What is your favorite color?" I say "That is a good question." She says "Like for clothes, what colors do you like to wear?" I say "I like black and white." She says "I do too." I ask "What is your favorite color, I mean, when you think of passion, what color would that be?" She says "Oh, that would be red!" I say "And when you SEE THIS RED, BRIGHTLY, CLEARLY, how does that make you feel?" She says "It makes me feel hot." Then she moves her face very close to mine and says "You know, I was a bad girl." I say "Is that so? How is that?" She says "After our phone conversation the other night, you made me cum." I say "I am so happy to hear that. How did I make you cum?" She just smiles. I say "Was I touching you?" She says "No. You were licking me and then making love to me. I love it like that, going from one right into the other." Then she proceeds slowly to give me another incredible, unforgettable kiss. It gets deeper and hotter. I pull back and look around and then look at her and say "Everybody is probably saying 'Those two should get a room'." She laughs and says "Yes." I say "Hey, we SHOULD get a room." She says "Yes, we SHOULD get a room." I say "OK." She says "OK." And then she jumps up and grabs her coat so I jump up and grab my coat. I take her hand and we walk quickly to my car. We drive back to my place where we spend hours doing delightfully lurid things to each other. David Shade
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