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From: kipp22@my-deja.comNewsgroups: alt.seduction.fastSubject: Lay Report: HB Pink Moon Gets Monkey SpankedDate: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 17:12:59 GMT

Here`s a report after a dry spell that sheds light on:1/ on-line seduction2/ psychological control, incl SM play3/ being accomodating - but not supplicating - on dates; managing a multi-month MLTR w/ limited interaction4/ insights from a chick player on guys, incl AFC turn-offs

Perp: Kipp, 30-something American expat in TokyoSubject: HB Pink Moon (aka HB Online), a 27-yo J tart 9 face/ 7 body (thin, boyish). Pics available if I can get on lounge.., where can i find Zopiclone online.
Date/Place: Aug - Dec, Tokyo. 2 parts.

HB Pink Moon is a 27-yo, professional (computer programmer) whom Imet through expat-oriented classifieds rag, Buy Zopiclone No Prescription. I had placed an ad for a`sensual woman, who enjoys play & knows what she wants`. HB Pink Moonlived in France for 3 yrs, has French BF, Zopiclone over the counter, and speaks fluent English(unlike most of my GFs, Pink Moon & I speak in English). Pink Moon isthe handle by which the woman goes by - so hence the name. (J girlsgenerally like these too-cutesy monikers, BTW ;)

LAY #1 PINK MOON FLASHES FULLAfter a few e-mail exchanges, I find out she likes games/SM play. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, Shegives me her mobile #. We decide to meet on a Friday in late Augustafter work. Day comes...I arrive at an upscale Shinjuku hotel where wehad planned. I had NOT booked a room, buy Zopiclone from mexico. I HAD done some prep work, byplanning card, drinking games related to sex, where I would start offby asking her about her sexual history. I also brought some toys,including rope, blindfold & remote-controlled vibe, Buy Zopiclone No Prescription.

Well....Friday comes & no Pink Moon at 7 as planned. I call her...sheblows me a line about being busy at work. I sound stern on the phone, Buy no prescription Zopiclone online, tell her she should have let me know b4. She apologizes. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, I get thevibe she is being semi-sincere, and we have done e-mails for about 2weeks although I would be among the first to admit that e-mails don`tmean shit...I ask her to reschedule that weekend. She says Sat is bad,but she could meet me same place on Sunday. So a deal is done. Whydidn`t I blow her out then. At that time, my stable was actuallyrelatively full; although it gave me great reason to say fuck you, italso gave me more scope to be less uptight & play it by ear, buy cheap Zopiclone no rx. Also, itwas one of my first experiences w/ a classifieds chick so the prospectof meeting someone sight unseen was a bit tingly, Buy Zopiclone No Prescription.

Sunday comes, and I make a point to call her 2 hours in advance to makesure the date is still on (normally I would consider this supplicating,but given our track records...) She says Yes. I book a hotel room, soI can rest a while, shower up, etc. Online buy Zopiclone without a prescription, She shows up about 10 minuteslate. Dressed to kill...WOW!...pleasantly surprised this chick is suchhigh-quality for the classifieds!. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, Luckily, I had coordinated myself abit upscale that day - black, Eurostyle. I greet her in the lobby,and invite her up to my hotel room.

We get to the room (little kino); sit on opposite beds. The mood isawkward; fluff talk for 30 minutes. I find out she thought I wasinviting her upstairs to a bar, not my room - I thought my SOI had beenclear enough from my ad/e-mails but she was more frigid than I hadexpected at this stage ;( OK, OK I ask her if she would like to goback down to the hotel bar, buy Zopiclone online no prescription. She agrees.., Buy Zopiclone No Prescription.

We get to the bar...order wine...fluff talk for another 30 minutes. Ifind out she lives w/ her parents (Boring). Her brother is reallystraight, AFC type guy whom she wants to be closer with but they aren`tvery close. I then ask her about her BF & BOOOOM. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, I`ve never seen achick switch on so sexual.... she airs her cum-drenched panties:bisexual, BF in France w/ orgies -- this guy is S, Buy cheapest Zopiclone, controlling to hermaking her send him naked pics, etc, Aussie GF in TOkyo, Aussie masterin Tokyo, scene play w/ American guys in hotel room windows (tied up w/vibe, ala Maniac style), etc.

She tells me her strategy on answering classifieds & meeting guys.
She answers the most bizarre, order Zopiclone online c.o.d, direct, hardcore ads (the more whipping &beating, the better she tells me....) Why. NOT necessarily cuz she isa fucked-up perv, but because these guys are honest,no-shit, confidentguys. She tells me of one horror story where she answered an AMericanAFC who penned an ad for a `nasty, slut girl` but in reality was beingvery incongruent in follow-up by demanding a nice girl, straight, applepie type, Buy Zopiclone No Prescription. Zopiclone price, Huhhh... Pink Moon says. Pink Moon also tells me Americanslike to ask too many . before/after during play - just fucking do it,sense the mood, and shut up HB Pink Moon says. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, In terms of qualifyingguys, most guys qualify themselves out through repeated e-mail (toolong, guess they lose message; another reminder for me to keep thingscongruent, brief, & to the point). She also blows many guys out onfirst date as being boring, AFC types.

I then tell her my spiel: I am attached LTR (she`s OK with that), Zopiclone samples,seductionist w/ multiple GFs (fine) including stripper HB Cat Eyes,some SM play but not hard core. We swap war stories about ourstripper GFs.... I tell her I am strong guy, she laughs, says I musthave `read it from a manual cuz all guys say that ha ha`. We talkfor like 2 hours, I am totally oblivious if other patrons overhear us(although we are talking in English, so less of a concern), and I paythe bill (semi-AFC), Buy Zopiclone No Prescription. I hold her hand, Online buying Zopiclone, & we go up to hotel room forRedux #2.

In the room, she goes by the windowsill. I ask her to describe how shefelt being tied up & vibed w/ all the young boys watching. She getsturned on; I start caressing her feet, licking her thighs (shecomments she thinks I am really M, not S ;( so I prove her otherwise byslapping her around lightly. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, She flashes her panties to me....on tothe bed, for some good, straight sex. She is extremely trance-like,state-like, purchase Zopiclone online no prescription. Nice small mouth (I hear you, TPUA). Safe sex, she won`tlet me jizz in her mouth. We wash up, and she suggests we go to somerope-tying seminars. I did not use the toys I brought in prep stage,or play the scripted games I had planned, BTW..., Buy Zopiclone No Prescription.

After sex, Zopiclone for sale, I check out of the hotel. She asks me if I have time fordinner. We do dinner in the hotel ($$$) which I pay, but I figure sheput out for me & she clearly has this image of herself as being upscalewhich she is straight with me about. Net-net, a superior but notfantastic date; her body is a bit too thin to get my peter-meter atfull-tilt, and I still don`t get a real strong sense on how to dealwith her fluffy, feminine, upscale professional exterior vs, rx free Zopiclone. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, fuckslut/SM (M) slut interior. Also, I thought the lay was too easy &didn`t likethe classifieds angle as I think this is a cop-out for PUA.

OK, what did I learn.
1/ Girls who look totally the nicest, sweetest, professional feminine can be the most kinky2/ WOmen like congruent men: it`s OK to wanna whip & spank but you gotta be congruent & not a player3/ Americans blab too much4/ Sometimes chicks do have legitimate reasons for backing down; be firmly persistent - not chasing - with clear timetables on follow-up5/ Be well rested, Zopiclone from canadian pharmacy, well prepared (I had the room rented, my SOI was congruent w/ my action plan)6/ Even fast chicks take some time to warm up (i.e., the hotel room right off the bat was NOT the best action plan)

We exchange a few emails after that, things die down mutually(actually, I think she generally stopped responding but I didn`t pursueit)...and then...

LAY #2 PINK MOON OPENS WIDER for SPAMI start to have falling out w/ HB Cat Eyes, my stripper bitch, so I e-mail HB PInk Moon in early October. Very brief, just asking how she is(following MrSex4UNYC`s strategy of following up w/ chicks every 2-3months if you`re still on cordial terms, just to keep the options openand see if anything`s changed), Buy Zopiclone No Prescription. Well, australia, uk, us, usa, canada, mexico, india, craiglist, ebay, paypal, things HAVE changed.

Pink Moon got hit by a car like 2 days ago...now WHIRLLEE WHIRLLEEE myBS meter is going 4-star red alarm here but...her accounts arepainfully detailed, & she later shows me pics. Looks like I`ve caughther on the rebound; she tells me she`s too banged up to play for awhile, so I suggest a regular dinner to get reacquainted...

Well, one month, Zopiclone pharmacy, two month passes... Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, a few intermittent e-mails. Wefinally nail down a date in early December. By this time, she ishealed up for play. She starts sending me very graphic e-mails abouther SM experiences (this chick could be a writer for Penthouse Forum).
Showed one of the emails to one of the regulars on the NG here, he(rightly) said she was really giving me a blueprint on how to fuckher. We exchange war stories.., Buy Zopiclone No Prescription. I test the accuracy of key tenants ofSS/Seduction theory (girls like guys who treat them not special, whoare distant but find out what makes them tick sexually, buy Zopiclone no prescription, etc). Sheagrees: players like to be aloof.

Our early December date is approaching. By this time, I am really inbad state w/ HB Cat EYes & concoct a plan to use HB Pink Moon as pivotat the strip club for jealous sparks/social proof. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, I feel a bit queasyabout this though (should be OK w/ Pink Moon, was planning to tell herI`m simply scouting for mutually compatible bi-material; but wasreally worried about running into straight professional contacts at thestrip club on this mission, also not sure that HB Cat Eyes wouldrespond as she often negs me big-time about being too much of aplayer). Am up to my eyeballs in work...so I cancel out the Thursdaydate w/ HB Pink Moon. Pink Moon responds back quickly she is OK, Order Zopiclone no prescription, noproblem, but she had been planning to treat me w/ pink thong or nopanties. Wow....

OK...few more emails again, generally very graphic from Pink Moon w/pictures attached. I am not responding so much in terms of feedbackto her experiences, & I reinforce that I am being a playboy, Buy Zopiclone No Prescription. She getsfed up...OOPS... I fuck up & have qualified myself out of the game.
She writes me back to the effect `OK, Kipp, where can i buy cheapest Zopiclone online, I`ve decided we`re notcompatible. I don`t like simple playboy type - booring - I`m lookingfor real SM player...You`re not my guy ,sorry, nothing personal, nohard feelings, no need to phone me again...` Oh well, I think, Where can i order Zopiclone without prescription, anotherone bites the dust ;(

I don`t do anything for ~1 week, then send her a brief answer back. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, Itell her explictly that I can a/ whine like an AFC in a looong e-mailtrying to tell her she`s wrong, but that`s not my style or I can b/accept fate, thank her for her time & direct communication, and wishher well. I choose the latter and forget about it (really!). Well, afew days later I get a response back where HB Pink Moon is tryiing tore-establish with me. In retrospect, she is a chick who clearly wantsto be dominated, controlled and was trying to get me to either be angryor whiny. Since I didn`t accomodate, purchase Zopiclone online, I re-positioned myself as adominant, challenge-for-her type of guy again. Below is edited e-mailof my response back to her.., Buy Zopiclone No Prescription.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Merry Christmas, KIPP. Thank you.
>> I guess I was tiny bit jealous.> I am sorry. Are you cross with me . :)

Yes. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, Veeery cross with you, petite Princess. Buy Zopiclone online cod, I offered to bringSantafor a specialvisit...but Santa`s returned to the cozy North Pole. Now, 2001 bringstheHebi (aka Skebi) Snake...
RU ready for a nasty snake, Pink Moon. Some snakes bite HAARD, and asyou know although they may look perfectly innocent, their bite is deadlypoisonous. My snake says that Pink Moon`s ass needs a bit of a bite -- do youthink so, Pink Moon, Buy Zopiclone No Prescription.

Yeah, order Zopiclone, maybe I am 2 playboy lately...all strong guys need to play, Uknow.
But thethrill is in the ACT of SEDUCING, conquering, & implanting desire....
sameas inBSDM world. I always smile ;) - as you say, Where can i buy Zopiclone online, life is short - at howmost players box themselvesinto TIIINNYY little holes smaller than Pink Moon`s bright pink assopening: gay men,dyke lesbians, S, M, playboy....well, do you think thereis a politically correct category that has to be strictly followed formenwho like to stuff3 cucumbers up their asses, lubed w/ 100% Pure Tuscan Virgin Oil?!??. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, Maybethey call itthe 3-Cuke-V-Oil Club and these MACHO GUYS do not talk to members of the2-Cuke club or Women whoare in the 3-Cuke Club ...ha ha.... but politics & uptight labels are2boooring for me (snore...
zzzzz....snoozzze......;B Be FREE, buy Zopiclone in canada, follow your heart, & don`t letothers`label` you....

So, I think Pink Moon needs to be punished for her sassy lip to lovelyKipp.
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Have you ever been tied up in a scented candle-lit room,

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Snake will cum out at Midnight. Buy Zopiclone without a prescription, But only if there is no Lip, cuz thisSnake does not like angry, pouty, Princess needs bettermanners, and I`m disappointed.nnnnnnnn

When RU gonna stop disappointing me, Pink Moon.

-Flower-Arranging Master Kipp

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Well, this hit the button. To make a long story short, order Zopiclone from mexican pharmacy, we met up todayat a cafe in Omotesando. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, As her punishment #1, I made her meet me w/no panties. For punishment #2, I brought the remote-control vibe Ididn`t use last time & made her go to the Ladies` Room and insert it.
I teased her during LOOONG dinner by turning it on or off, but ofcourseshe could make no sound HA HA.. I made her drink alot also so she hadto trip to the Ladies Room again w/ the vibe in, walking very gingerly(w/ no panties), Buy generic Zopiclone, tight-assed not to lose it. Afterwords, straight tolove hotel for light SM, normal sex. Wow..., Buy Zopiclone No Prescription. I needed that as I`vebeen on a bit of a dry spell lately.

OK, what did I learn part 2....
1/ Give a chick what she wants... if she wants to be controlled, control her. Buy Zopiclone No Prescription, So long as it`s w/in your limits, a turn-on for you, and you keep self-respect2/ No doesn`t always mean No. I couldda given up after the `Don`t bother to phone me again, thank you` e-mail. But I kept my composure & options open3/ It pays to keep up 6 month contact, even if casual, w/ chicks you might wanna do again. My stable has thinned out - things are a bit slow near the holidays - but had this New Year`s Treat.

Comments (constructive) welcome.

CU, Kipp

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